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Ness vs. Sheik Super Smash Bros. Melee tiers, match-up votes and discussion



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SSBM match-up numbers for Ness vs. Sheik

Ness 2 / Sheik 8:
52.9% of the votes
Ness 1 / Sheik 9:
31.9% of the votes
Ness 3 / Sheik 7:
15.1% of the votes

  Total votes for Ness vs. Sheik match-up: 119

Comments

datautisticgamer said on August 13, 2019 at 5:24 a.m.

Sheik is yet another hard counter for Ness.

Sheik wins in every important aspect of this matchup. Ness has no options to fight Needles (the first one cancels out PK Fire, and the others will punish him), and his lack of range makes it excruciating for him to try to land grabs or crouch cancel counters. Most horribly of all, Sheik's down throw can chain grab Ness from 0 to roughly 90%, and DI does not reduce the maximum that much. Down throw also allows Sheik to get forward tilt into forward air, which will send Ness offstage. At that point, Sheik has basically taken a stock; ignoring how it's already difficult to control PK Thunder, Needles will cancel it out, causing the boy to plummet to the Blast Zone like a rock. If Sheik is offstage, Ness doesn't have much in the way of fighting her there due to meteor cancelable dair, and his other options being too slow or not having good hitboxes to help him edgeguard. Primarily, however, it's the virtual zero-to-death of chain grab to f-tilt to fair that neuters Ness's ability to seriously contest Sheik in top tournament play.

2/8

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