Tekken 7 to not feature cross-play between consoles and PC after all - Harada explains that the problem can't be solved by 3rd party developers

Posted by Nicholas 'MajinTenshinhan' Taylor • March 13, 2017 at 2:31 p.m. PDT

We previously reported on Namco Bandai stating that cross-play between Xbox One, PlayStation 4 and PC might be in the card, but unfortunately that does not seem to be happening after all.

Harada has explained on Twitter that the security policy for their P2P networking doesn't allow cross-play between three platforms, and that he has no desire to split the PC version.

You can find Harada's tweets on the matter below.

Source: WCCFTech. Thanks to SJFox for sending this our way.

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CKNG said on March 13, 2017 at 2:35 p.m.

people still have xbones? give us ps4/pc crossplay

#1
SqueakyBloom said on March 13, 2017 at 2:36 p.m.

This is a shame. Hopefully the Steam version is not only playable, but also has people actually playing it.

#2
ElHiznahn said on March 13, 2017 at 2:37 p.m.

wtf, rocket league can do crossplay. what's the difference?

#3
EgyptCat said on March 13, 2017 at 2:38 p.m.

"Remember, SFV & KI is Exclusive PS4 or X1"

Does Harada even really play other fighting games than Tekken?

PS/Xbox should have been xplay compatible since bloody Tekken 6, much less Tag 2!

#4
Byzantine_Mage said on March 13, 2017 at 2:39 p.m.

There is a Tekken Discord Group so anyone could join and arrange matches with other players easily.
As long as connectivity is good and the game is polished ,crossplay is the last thing that I care about.

#5
ZalbaagBeoulve said on March 13, 2017 at 2:42 p.m.

DAMMIT! This is where i gotta give credit to SFV. I completely enjoy my online PC experience. How is a company a step behind Capcom?

#6
RebornOdin said on March 13, 2017 at 2:43 p.m.

The difference is that their crossplay only goes from console to PC, not console to console to PC in a circle.

Also, Rocket League doesn't have Xbox One -> PS4 crossplay because, surprise surprise, they ran into the same issue Harada has.

I think people fail to realize just how hard it is for that to be possible. You don't just flip a switch. You don't just write a line of code. You don't just say "Hey [company], let's do crossplay!" and it magically happens. It's vastly more complicated than you realize.

#7
fawaz said on March 13, 2017 at 2:43 p.m.

I don't get his explanation at all. If Rocket League can do it, so can any game. Who's asking him to "split" PC version? If MS isn't allowing X1+PC cross-play, then go with PS4+PC, instead of leaving everyone confined to their own platform.

#8
Fethennour said on March 13, 2017 at 2:50 p.m.

Rocket League = dedicated servers.
Tekken 7, and any other fighting game = P2P.

#9
Heta said on March 13, 2017 at 2:50 p.m.

Savage and blunt as usual keep doing your thing Mr.Harada. On topic shame as I'm first time genuinely pumped to play a game online as it's main mode. I love Tekken community. Lucky for me I feel PS4 is going to have most of Tekken players, duh.

#10
GIndustryDebug said on March 13, 2017 at 2:51 p.m.

It's the issue of XB1 to PS4. The individual Microsoft and Sony security platforms on P2P connections won't allow for cross play between those two consoles.

When he says he can't split the PC version, he means that in order for cross play to work, he would have to have one version of T7 on PC that connects with X1 and another version that connects to PS4.

It isn't his policy or desire that's stopping cross play from being available, it's the logistics of the situation.

#11
RebornOdin said on March 13, 2017 at 2:51 p.m.

This one.

#12
fawaz said on March 13, 2017 at 2:52 p.m.
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#13
SFViper said on March 13, 2017 at 2:52 p.m.

There's a better chance of getting crossplay with Xbox One because they are both Microsoft platforms. Don't make the comments cancerous with these IGN fanboy comments

#14
Syirine said on March 13, 2017 at 2:54 p.m.

I think it's because Tekken is being released on both consoles.

#15
fawaz said on March 13, 2017 at 2:55 p.m.
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#16
RebornOdin said on March 13, 2017 at 2:55 p.m.

You do realize that SFV is P2P, right? It only has dedicated servers for the matchmaking.

Even if Tekken 7 magically got dedicated servers, the actual core gameplay that underlies it all is still based on P2P.

P2P is the issue and the reason why you can't split.

#17
fawaz said on March 13, 2017 at 2:55 p.m.
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AngriestRetalinUser said on March 13, 2017 at 2:57 p.m.

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#19
metaf4 said on March 13, 2017 at 2:58 p.m.
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#20
EnemyAI said on March 13, 2017 at 3:04 p.m.

This sucks...I knew this would happen too good to be true. Crossplay with PC,XBOX and PS4 would be amazing for the game!

#21
fawaz said on March 13, 2017 at 3:04 p.m.

Yes it HAS to be on PC now. It's the first ever TEKKEN game on PC and we're all excited. We deserve it after waiting for more than two decades.

#22
AngriestRetalinUser said on March 13, 2017 at 3:04 p.m.

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#23
Syirine said on March 13, 2017 at 3:05 p.m.

Oh god no servers, I was thinking about this for pc you can but you can bet these pc nerds are gonna be messing with ranked leaderboards and all that mess.

#24
malcrash01 said on March 13, 2017 at 3:06 p.m.

Steam and Microsoft are willing for it while Sony has some hurdles in order to get that crossplay goodness. Understandable

#25
Blackoshinomi said on March 13, 2017 at 3:07 p.m.

If SFV was on xbox cross play with pc wouldn't even exist

#26
BlankaBeast said on March 13, 2017 at 3:08 p.m.

Well ain't that a big fat bummer.

I reckon.

Long Live SFV.

#27
CreepShowKid said on March 13, 2017 at 3:09 p.m.

people still going on about stupid console wars instead of just being a fan of video games in general?

No cross play? No problem. I'm still buying a copy for my Xbox One, PS4, and PC so just hurry up and release Tekken 7 Gimme Gimme Gimme just take my money :(

#28
CityHunter said on March 13, 2017 at 3:13 p.m.

Remember when this thread was about SFV? Yeah I dont

#29
thisRalf said on March 13, 2017 at 3:14 p.m.

Spoken from a truly ignorant point of view.

The same hacks that are possible on the PC version of SF5 at the time, those being the Fight Money hacks, AI mods, and costume changes, are all possible on the PS4. If you recall, that AI Bot that got all the way to 1st place was created on PS4 and ran from a PS4 machine, not a PC.

You can lag switch a PS4, you can fake an API call to the PS4 network, and you cheat on it as well.

Your perspective comes from a complete elitest "it doesn't happen on consoles" point of view, when it can, and DOES happen much more than you realize.

Shut it with that garbage.

#30
RebornOdin said on March 13, 2017 at 3:17 p.m.

You don't have any idea what you're talking about, do you?

Also, you do realize this article has nothing to do with SF5, right? You're just trolling for the sake of trolling at this point.

#31
fawaz said on March 13, 2017 at 3:19 p.m.

Not to mention, the data-mining for SFV was also done on PS4, not PC; the data-miner came here and stated himself. People either have a weak memory or just don't pay attention at all.

#32
badjab326 said on March 13, 2017 at 3:23 p.m.

The solution is simple, release a steam and a Win 10 Store version, Win 10 store version is crossplay with Xbox and Steam is crossplay with PS4. Easy way to get PC players to double dip as well as Console players with friends on both consoles.

It sounds like a dick move, and it is when other non-crossplay games do it, but because of crossplay, there's actually a benefit to both options.

#33
metaf4 said on March 13, 2017 at 3:26 p.m.
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#34
Syirine said on March 13, 2017 at 3:35 p.m.
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#35
layer said on March 13, 2017 at 3:40 p.m.

It's not like we've ever had Xbox crossplay with PS before. Why are people so upset with something we've never even had in the first place?

#36
thisRalf said on March 13, 2017 at 3:42 p.m.

1st Party means Sony said no.

Rocket League's versions are identical... as is their netcode. Any security hurdle is negligible beyond that: you just have clients connecting to a host. As long as the netcode is the same it works.

Currently Cross play is supported on that between Xbone and Steam, PS4 and Steam, but not PS4 and XBone. Funny how that is.

When Harada said 1st party, he is talking about the companies themselves, not the game. Sony is blocking sharing the playerbase with Microsoft because they have the larger playerbase. Especially for fighting games. If you really want to play fighting games, you buy a PS4. If you allow crossplay, it is one reason less to buy a PS4. Simple as that. Crossplay benefits the players, and only serves to dillute the difference between buying a PS4 and XBONE. Neither Sony nor MS want that, but MS will deal with that because it benefits them more currently.

Last console cycle, it was MS that was blocking crossplay. It came up with the Call of Duty series.

Harada is telling the truth. He is clearly frustrated by the fact that people aren't picking up on what he is saying. He can't say SONY IS BLOCKING THIS FROM HAPPENING, that is biting the hand that feeds you. I guarantee he wants full cross-play. It means more copies of his game will sell across all platforms between consoles because its that much easier to get a match. As for no crossplay between PC and consoles, Harada is either being told no, or being lazy.

Corporate greed stopping crossplay from happening.

#37
AngriestAngryArtist said on March 13, 2017 at 3:46 p.m.

Meanwhile as facts just dropped in. Capcom and Namco are actually making other games other than SF and Tekken. They're also making other genres other than fighting.

#38
AngriestAngryArtist said on March 13, 2017 at 3:51 p.m.

For PS4 to be able to communicate with Xbox One users through crossplay means big huge dollars with Sony and Microsoft. I think either side aren't willing to cough up the extra dollar for a fighter of all things to be invested on.

And yes, Sony just want more playerbase who play fighting games on their side instead of MS. And why help your competitor if you can't get anything back 10x fold...eh...it's the nature of business.

#39
thisRalf said on March 13, 2017 at 3:55 p.m.

Yeah you did. Your entire comment proceeded to trash PC ports in favor of the good ol days between Sony and MS, and their combined player bases. And the only thing that PC's were good for are hacks.

And how you defend your yourself is slap me with 'triggered the PC master race' comment. I've owned almost every major console in the past 30 years except the Sega Master System, Jaguar, 3d0, and Neo Geo. I don't own a PS4 or XBone now because I have two toddlers and limited time for gaming. If you wanted to clear the air, you could have did it without the insult. But nah, can't humble yourself to do that.

I could go on, but your toxic your comment getting downvoted is good enough for me.

#40
Zephyrus said on March 13, 2017 at 3:55 p.m.
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#41
gilgabit said on March 13, 2017 at 4 p.m.

Wait, really? An xb/pc or ps4/pc I'd understand, but xb/ps4 crossplay? That's hard to believe because MS and Sony are direct competitors.

#42
SlasherX said on March 13, 2017 at 4:11 p.m.

I develop my multi platform hobby 2d fighter, so I may have a penny to share here. As long as your game runs smoothly at 60 fps cross platform is possible in any combination (in my case it is mobile x pc) if you use a dedicated server which runs your own fighting game server code. This is very tiresome and hard work since you need to spare people to maintain and fix the servers. SFV has this, and this is probably one of the main reasons why the game looked rushed when it was released. Capcom probably had to put a lot of energy to server code and it stability than the game features programming. I have to maintain my own server (there is only one server actually). Thanks to some dedicated players I have, they message me quickly like "SERVERS ARE DOWN!" and I restart it..

#43
Deathdeliverer said on March 13, 2017 at 4:28 p.m.

Let me get this straight. Some of you guys actually think Sony dropped the ball on this? So Sony is OK with Warframe (while patches are in sync), Final Fantasy 14, and SFV being cross play with PC, which continues from as early as FF11 from PS2. But PC-PS4-Xbox Tekken was a problem? Please research how FF14 isn't on XBox because PS4 was involved. Warframe because of MS policies. Now suddenly Sony has double the installed base and MS is ok with cross platform? MS wants to find a way to get PC players to pay for XBox live. They tried it in the 360 days and they are trying it again with this games anywhere push. That's the 1st party red tape you're looking for. That's why the only cross platform games for Xbox 1 is Halo wars (I think) and Forza Horizon. So you pay for their ecosystem. One way or the other.

#44
StarBuster said on March 13, 2017 at 4:38 p.m.

You're new here? Sony is always to blame.

#45
Deathdeliverer said on March 13, 2017 at 4:46 p.m.

I just normally don't comment cause someone says what I'm thinking somewhere in the thread. No point being redundant. This is actually ridiculous though lol.

#46
VengefulGiblets said on March 13, 2017 at 4:56 p.m.

Thanks for the explanations, all. Really unfortunate situation but at least now we know what's happening.

#47
metaf4 said on March 13, 2017 at 4:56 p.m.
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#48
RunningWildVidya said on March 13, 2017 at 4:58 p.m.

Did people already forget that SFV's crossplay online is rubbish?

#49
Buckmoth said on March 13, 2017 at 4:59 p.m.

Would you rather they

A.) commit their time and money into implementing cross-play but risk dropping trash ports with sub-par net play (You can play your friends across systems! Suddenly... L A A A G)

or

B.) commit their time and money into optimizing the home versions and net play (You can hopefully enjoy most connections, and still use Discord to find a sparring partner at any hour)

If the game drops with a trash port or garbage net play, THEN riot. I'm ready to play this yesterday.

#50
LeonX said on March 13, 2017 at 5:02 p.m.

To be like SFV, no, I don't want Xplay, I want to both players suffering with the lag :)

#51
AngriestAngryArtist said on March 13, 2017 at 5:03 p.m.

BUT DIS IS NEMKOU DOU!

#52
Galletano said on March 13, 2017 at 5:18 p.m.

The "community" will be Divided in three consoles its kinda funny. The biggest community will be on the PS4, but it is most likely to be the least good online experience. Still getting it for PS4, cause I don't have any other option. Hope all of the communities are strong so everyone can enjoy it.

#53
npcomplete said on March 13, 2017 at 5:25 p.m.

If they really cant get Sony to agree then Harada SHOULD split the pc vetsion up. Ie
Ps4 - steam
Xb1 - steam

Which is already the case today. However by "split" you don't have to sell two different versions. You can simply have the same game on PC run in two different modes. One mode will find other pc + ps4 users, the other will find pc + xb1 users.

It's a compromise that would at least increase the player pool of each platform by one extra platform

#54
Fitzjitsu said on March 13, 2017 at 5:28 p.m.

That sucks. I was looking forward to this game! (PC player) I won't be playing this as I would he excluded from probably 3/4ths of the community. Maybe more?

#55
OkieScrub said on March 13, 2017 at 5:44 p.m.

In the end PC should be the main platform for fighting games. Less latency. Use any controller you want. No stupid Sony and MS mucking things up. You don't have to worry someone stop making PCs ( they stopped making xbox360s and PS3 etc)

The FGC should just move to PC.

#56
VengefulGiblets said on March 13, 2017 at 5:46 p.m.

That's on capcom. Their situation is not representative of the only possible outcome of crossplay.

Everything that capcom has made in SFV is broken and / or they've somehow screwed it up. Their netcode is clearly no exception.

And to be honest, it's offensive to developers everywhere to assume that everyone should just give up on an idea since capcom didn't get it right.

#57
stillgaming said on March 13, 2017 at 5:56 p.m.

I played TT2 from release to MKXL dropping, which I dropped for the SFV release, not once the entire time I played it did I have a cry that I couldn't play cross platform....which other platforms should consider themselves lucky too, cough, cough

#58
DestinyZX1 said on March 13, 2017 at 6:07 p.m.

Unless they fix the netcode, I have no interest in playing Street Fighter V anymore. They done screwed it up.

#59
downvote said on March 13, 2017 at 6:18 p.m.

Regrettable but not surprising really.

Especially considering how much of a headache Capcom is having with SFV online.

Harada and gang also quickly exited from the whole TEKKEN VS STREET FIGHTER thing when SFXT flopped hard.

I'm still getting it on PC since I refuse to pay for a online gaming service when I have a perfectly valid and free option.

#60
phrostbyte said on March 13, 2017 at 6:30 p.m.

crossplay would be great but whatever, definitely getting PC version

#61
Discane said on March 13, 2017 at 7:01 p.m.

Not a big deal. When Tekken and any 3d fighting does have crossplay?

#62
fawaz said on March 13, 2017 at 7:22 p.m.

Exactly. Fools are never going to understand what's REALLY going on here. Sony made their CONSOLE EXCLUSIVE title, SFV, available on PC with cross-play, but somehow NOW they have a problem with TEKKEN that's on ALL platforms, having cross-play b/w PC/PS4? Nope.

It's MS. But my point is that why even care about X1/PC cross-play if MS is being a shi*ty hurdle. Just go ahead with PS4/PC cross-play, like SFV. You're telling me all parties approved of Rocket League's system, but did not approve TEKKEN to have the same?! Get out of here.

I call BS on the "Can't split PC version" reasoning.

#63
StarBuster said on March 13, 2017 at 7:36 p.m.

Dream on

#64
Retsuki said on March 13, 2017 at 7:43 p.m.

I actually kinda respect Harada more than Ono. But this is a blew up but saying its not happening. At least make the both consoles can crossplay to PC. This became worse than Ono although Ono fcked it up pretty hard but its still ongoing rather than cancelling it.

#65
Horseman_JD said on March 13, 2017 at 8:17 p.m.

Anyone saying the PC crowd ain't sh_t get bodied...

I can see this as a good situation for two reasons

1. Let newcomers get right without being served to the hounds on the P4

2. Having a separate player base could help with how players approach/learn the game.

* 1440p/4k easier setups for pads/ sticks

** Easier communication to help with multiple situations on steam forums

#66
SJFox said on March 13, 2017 at 8:27 p.m.

Warframe isn't crossplay. What are you smoking? FF14 runs exclusively on servers meaning clients don't communicate to each other, data is sent to servers and back to other players. It's also console exclusive to ps4. All fighting games are P2P including SF5. SF5 is console exclusive to PS4, if it were multiplatform you'd get no cross platform. Halo, Forza and KI are indeed platforms shared with microsoft and are easy to allow crossplay.

#67
Horseman_JD said on March 13, 2017 at 9:19 p.m.

THIS

But they too narrow minded..

#68
fakersgonnafake said on March 13, 2017 at 10:24 p.m.

"Capcom can't run their servers too well so we decided we are't even trying because it could make us look bad"

#69
Deathdeliverer said on March 13, 2017 at 10:27 p.m.

You might want to look some stuff up. I've was playing Warframe since alpha on PC and day one on PS4. I have not played in the last year and a half but I personally tested playing on PC with friends on PS4. I see NOW PC updates are ahead and the game will likely never be in sync again as DE says they can release updates whenever they want on PC where as PS has a cert process that slowed them down. You must have got your PS when SF came out or had no interest in Warframe. Also, Final Fantasy being on servers does not matter in the point. The game was not supposed to be console exclusive. In fact it could come to Xbox at anytime. It simply released first on PS because the devs ran into roadblocks with Microsofts policies. A simple google search of the several interviews post E3 back then will show you that. Microsoft does not want Xbox gamers with PS gamers. Period. It's why Final Fantasy 11 almost did not come to 360. Look at those interviews. While you're at it look at the attempt to get people paying for Xbox live on pc. Xbox live isn't some magical wonderland that is easy to work with PC and Xbox because it's the same. Each system is a streamlined pc. A Xbox would work on PSN and vice versa. Microsoft is focused on how they can get a PC player to pay for live and if a PS player plays with a live player they make no money from the ps player. Period.

#70
Deathdeliverer said on March 13, 2017 at 10:35 p.m.

And as far as SFV cross play playing bad, I have played and have several friends on PC that play Direct connection and we have lag free matches 100% just like my PS friends. I've played Maximilian and we had a silky match PS to PC. There isn't a fighting game server or code in the world that can save you from the wifi warrior. A lot of these guys are on gaming laptops on wifi and think because star citizen runs well, sf should too on wifi. Same as the PS guys on COD that think the same thing. Stop blaming the dev and start educating the player. Ask a laggy player if they are on wifi. Search the name on steam or PSN. Watch what they tell you. Still won't stop some of you from blaming Capcom or Sony though. Facts are for losers.

#71
Bzerk45 said on March 13, 2017 at 10:41 p.m.

Katsuhiro "don't ask me for ****" Harada

#72
raymk said on March 14, 2017 at 12:18 a.m.

Pc's break easier and aren't as mobile to move around. There's a reason they don't do it. I have a pc but its jist mot viable to mov3 around for tournaments. Besides gaming consoles are cheaper and will have less issues for casual gamimg.

#73
TH_AKB said on March 14, 2017 at 12:40 a.m.

thnku... coding is not simple lmao.

Players must understand this, its a big challenge to code it and to run it smooth thats another story

#74
Phinx said on March 14, 2017 at 12:48 a.m.

This is so far from the truth; It has nothing to do with difficulty in coding.

The rocket league team said they would have it working within hours. But PS4's security policy doesn't allow it. It's an issue with Sony and their monopolistic ways. They even dodged the question when asked.....

#75
HooliganComboFTW said on March 14, 2017 at 2:32 a.m.

Lol the salt here. Can't wait for T7 to drop.

#76
KnyghtFall said on March 14, 2017 at 5:18 a.m.

There are many issues that prevent this from becoming reality.

It's probably never going to happen.

Licensing-Standardization-Potential Tampering and Hacks-Much more

#77
Horseman_JD said on March 14, 2017 at 5:39 a.m.

I have a laptop with two 1080s and a 6700k processor, they exist..

#78
Horseman_JD said on March 14, 2017 at 5:45 a.m.

Also not necessarily, years ago yes they were pretty bad parts went bad too quickly, but man have times changed.

As I said in the previous comment, laptops pack serious gaming performance. And mine laptop is going to run this game at 3k/4k res. How hype that would be for tournament players just to experience it would be so good for the FGS. (I don't say FGC, a whole bunch of strangers playing video games and stealing/ lying to each other foh)

#79
npcomplete said on March 14, 2017 at 7:03 a.m.

You don't get it. How can it be MS's fault when they explicitly and publicly stated that they WANTED crossplay with Sony? That was straight from Microsoft regarding Tekken 7 when asked about it in their presentation at E3. You're just shifting the blame hoping no one would realize.

BOTH Sony and MS has made their console exclusive titles crossplay with PC capable. They have no issues with granting PC users crossplay. BUT the main issue--from Sony's side--is granting crossplay to the other console, not PC. This is mainly because PC software can adapt to the network security model the console uses, but console code cannot adapt.

Even if they granted crossplay with PC, that would only be a compromise because that would "split" the PC version. But as I mentioned above, they should do just that.

#80
raymk said on March 14, 2017 at 7:30 a.m.

And they are expensive or did you miss that part. Not to mention people are more likely to steal a laptop than a console.

#81
ryu600RR said on March 14, 2017 at 9:02 a.m.

i want a t-shirt, of harada wearing the t-shirt, on my t-shirt

#82
Aasr said on March 14, 2017 at 9:53 a.m.

runnin' FG tourneys on PC though... that not only seems way more expensive, but also not practical at all

#83
Gam3B0y said on March 14, 2017 at 10:14 a.m.

yeah and it's a big shame that people like you are almost always the vocal minority, who understand S&&t about the subject they are talking about and demand things which they assume is possible, then write in comment sections/forums/etc... then other people who has same demands and same knowledge snowball these miths..

#84
KazamaBloodline said on March 14, 2017 at 10:20 a.m.

Ugh who cares. I mean seriously only a handful of games have cross platform play and in most it's horrible.(SfxT) If not having cross platform play is enough to kill tekken 7 for you then don't play it. I don't understand why some of you are getting so butt hurt about it. I also don't understand why street fighter is being brought into the conversation. The online for street fighter 5 might as well be another vs CPU mode not like you can communicate with people it's a completely forgettable experience. I'd much rather have a player match room similar to Tag2 where I can type what I want not predetermined phrases or talk to people and above all else I could actually get fight money.#WhyCantYouEarnFightMoneyInBattleLounge

#85
pastywhites said on March 14, 2017 at 10:37 a.m.

None of you have any real world understanding of the hows and whys that make this industry tick. You are unable to cite sources or provide anything to support your statements. You are just continuing to spout useless nonsense, when it is clear you don't have any idea what your talking about. The industry is failing but its not because of the developers or the console makers its because of poor entitled douche bag gamers who refuse to see the logic behind supporting their hobby by actually investing their time, money and support.

#86
meltsy said on March 14, 2017 at 10:47 a.m.

And exactly how is that "way more expensive" and "not practical at all" when the post you are replying to has points proving the exact opposite?

#87
SJFox said on March 14, 2017 at 10:53 a.m.

Yeah you know, I'm in the same exact boat. The difference? I still play warframe. I have buddies who play on PC and PS4. I have 726 hours logged on steam. Crossplay has never been available for warframe. Now, they've talked about it, considered it, but passed on it. I don't recall the exact reasoning, but it's probably because the steam version is months ahead of the ps4 and xb1 versions of the game.

So, to make it clear because you seem to firmly believe the stuff you made up, there is no crossplay available for warframe. From alpha to now it was never available.

And what do you mean servers don't matter. Shaking hands with a service is vastly different from p2p, are you insane? A server can play as a neutral platform, a secure network where clients can be pooled together in. A pc player is not the host of an mmo. A console player is not the host of an mmo.

And yes, things are being considered for FF14, the fact that it is server based is a definite leg up with less security risks.

As for cross play in general http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/201...

"Agostino Simonetta: Absolutely - we're ready. Rocket League is the first game - and it is a heavily network-orientated game. Last weekend I had a problem with my wife, I was playing too much Rocket League.

But yes, any title that wants to update their game to include cross-network play, any title that wants to launch soon and take advantage of that, we are ready."

I mean, it's a simple google search. Posted 08/04/2016, so if you have something more recent denying this, you're more than welcome to share. Just make sure it's not made up like your warframe crossplay info.

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