'There's no way a Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter crossover would satisfy everybody' - Despite hurdles, Ed Boon says he's still open to the idea

Posted by Steven 'Dreamking23' Chavez • February 22, 2017 at 1:56 p.m. PST

In the latest installment of IGN Unfiltered -- the site's monthly interview show -- Creative Director at NetherRealm Studios Ed Boon stopped by to talk shop.

Over the years, it seems as though there is always one question that Boon just can't seem to avoid: will we ever see a Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter crossover? In this interview, we learned that the MK co-creator is still open to the idea.

"There's part of me that would be like, 'that would be such a cool dream,'" Boon started. "And then there's another part of me that goes, 'there is no way that would satisfy everybody.'"

Boon goes on to explain that even if the game were rated M, it would be difficult to find the perfect balance between the two franchises' styles. Despite this, he would still entertain the idea if Capcom approached him.

You can check out the full segment after the jump.

Source: IGN. Sent in by RYU81, RedAndHot, and Fawaz.

Comments

CODYYY said on February 22, 2017 at 1:59 p.m.

no thanks.

#1
malcrash01 said on February 22, 2017 at 2 p.m.

I was into this idea a long time back, but right now, I don't want it to be another MKvDC situation where there is a conflict with the rating of the game

#2
Terrorrisk said on February 22, 2017 at 2:01 p.m.

Not for it, but keep gunning for it whoever actually cares.

#3
Zephyrus said on February 22, 2017 at 2:05 p.m.

it's not meant to satisfy everybody.

Take a few things from each franchise and make a game out of it.

SFxT doesn't play like SF or Tekken. It's it's own thing.

You could even make a deal where each company makes their own version of the game. Capcom's would be more in tune with SF gameplay. That would mean that MK characters would actually have to be balanced for a SF like experience and not do teleport moves that become hard to block when not having a block button.

NRS would be more in tune with MK gameplay.

They could end up agreeing on stuff like the gore and fatalities.

Honestly I'd be fine with no fatalities or gore of any kind. I just want this crossover to happen.

#4
RandomSelectMaster said on February 22, 2017 at 2:07 p.m.

Nothing will satisfy everyone sadly. Some people will just find something to complain about, and that cannot be helped. For me, if Capcom and NRS were to make a crossover, I say do a Resident Evil VS. Mortal Kombat. I don't think Capcom is willing to see "beloved" Street Fighter Characters get killed in a game. With Resident Evil (Dino Crisis, etc.), you see that anyway, so it is a better fit for both companies. Not sure if NRS would be willing to do a crossover with that aspect in mind though. I am thinking they have an eye for Street Fighter VS. MK instead of anything else.

#5
Mac_Gargan said on February 22, 2017 at 2:07 p.m.


If it was made by CAPCOM, who would want to play MK anymore after they are dragged kicking and screaming away from the CLUNK factor?

If it was made by NRS, who would want to play a CLUNK version of SF? (besides, we have that already in V)

#6
meltsy said on February 22, 2017 at 2:10 p.m.

Ed, if anything, do a crossover with Killer Instinct. SF and MK dont even have the same fanbase.

#7
sarif2soon said on February 22, 2017 at 2:10 p.m.

Didn't we hear something similar in like 2012?

Also: TxSF?

#8
Salarian said on February 22, 2017 at 2:10 p.m.

It'll never happen and it'll turn out like MK vs. DCU.

#9
edrigo said on February 22, 2017 at 2:11 p.m.

When both companies are near bankruptcy they will suddenly be "inspired"

#10
DonnieRizzle said on February 22, 2017 at 2:13 p.m.

Lending out the creative properties would work. Like Capcom and snk did. And much like that trade, the Capcom version would be superior. SVC chaos was horrible while Capcom vs Snk 2 was great.

#11
Stiqman said on February 22, 2017 at 2:14 p.m.

MK v SF was a good idea in maybe 1995.

We still dont even like the SF Tekken crossover... can we FINALLY get CVS3?

#12
GiBGUN said on February 22, 2017 at 2:15 p.m.

He's spot on. There'd have to be some serious compromise on somebody's part.

I can't imagine Capcom giving a green light for a game where Ryu's head can be ripped from his body etc, so that compromise would likely have to come from NRS, which would result in an incredibly tame game, thus defeating most of the point of the crossover even existing.

#13
DonnieRizzle said on February 22, 2017 at 2:15 p.m.

I would like to see how NRS handled street fighter characters fatalities, though. That could be fun.

#14
thisRalf said on February 22, 2017 at 2:15 p.m.

I'd be fine without fatalities. I mean they are part of MK, but even in MK's own cannon nobody dies due to fatalities the way the game plays. The violence needs to be a peg higher than Capcom but less than MK.

But I digress, this will never happen. Street Fighter is the get here for some reason, even though the money maker between the two is MK and not SF any more. Oh well.

#15
Zephyrus said on February 22, 2017 at 2:18 p.m.

No. Not with killer instinct unless microsoft is willing to make it available everywhere else too.

It should be with a 3rd party IP.

#16
PiiKhay said on February 22, 2017 at 2:18 p.m.

As a Fighting game fan who loves cross overs, I would like to see it happen. But it seems unlikely to happen though..

#17
UncleBibby said on February 22, 2017 at 2:18 p.m.

i came up with a few ways a MK vs SF crossover could be troubleshot:

http://unclebibby47.deviantart.com/ar...

#18
Skaz9000 said on February 22, 2017 at 2:18 p.m.

Well, let me be that minority that still dreams of the day this happens. Both games were my childhood.

#19
Zephyrus said on February 22, 2017 at 2:19 p.m.

mk has always sold better than sf

#20
theshredder39 said on February 22, 2017 at 2:20 p.m.

I actually want to see it happen and have it be really good just to prove that MK doesn't need it's violence to make agood game out of it cause people give MKvDC crap for the lack of violence but that game has way more problems than just that.

And I get it, MK is big because of the violence but if you can just make a good video game who cares? If MKX came out the way it is now but with none of the violence it'd still be a fun fighting game.

Now I'm not saying MK should otright drop the violence forever I'm just saying for the sake of stuff like crossovers, I say just focus on making the game good and don't worry about keeping the violence, people will buy it regardless of that because they just wanma see Ryu throw Hadoukens at Scorpion.

That said the biggest issue I see with an SFvMK is the control style, would you make it a 6 button fighter with back to block or a four button fighter with a block button? Or do you go Capcom Vs. SNK and have a Groove system?

#21
Travis2310 said on February 22, 2017 at 2:20 p.m.

(This user was banned.)

#22
GiBGUN said on February 22, 2017 at 2:21 p.m.

Thanks for sharing! I like some of the stuff you've got down there :)

#23
NotOneOfUs said on February 22, 2017 at 2:24 p.m.

Like Freddy vs Jason, it'll happen someday.

Don't know when, don't know how, but someday, it'll happen.

#24
rlt4life said on February 22, 2017 at 2:25 p.m.

SF vs MK I just can't really see happening. The two worlds just wouldn't mesh well at all.

HOWEVER.

Instead of SF, why not Darkstalkers? They had a pretty hefty amount of blood and gore. Hell, Jedah alone would make it work. But characters got chopped up and split open all the time. Maybe that would be the better, more sensible option.

#25
KiX said on February 22, 2017 at 2:25 p.m.

Let's not and just get TxSF already.

#26
That_guy_who_plays_DOA said on February 22, 2017 at 2:26 p.m.

And while they're all sitting down, Boon can teach them how to actually sell copies and make money!

#27
EightFrameGod said on February 22, 2017 at 2:26 p.m.

Mk Characters in SF, sure. Not the other way around, wouldn't pay for a MK game with SF characters.

#28
EightFrameGod said on February 22, 2017 at 2:27 p.m.

Are you suggesting NRS is bigger than Capcom?

That's just absolutely asinine.

#29
CLupula said on February 22, 2017 at 2:29 p.m.

What I love about this is that Boon has been told by Capcom that THEY are not interested in making such a crossover, because they don't want to see Capcom characters brutally murdered through fatalities. The answer is amusing because he acts like he wouldn't have already done it if Capcom had been cool with the idea.

#30
Xar5000 said on February 22, 2017 at 2:30 p.m.

Eh. I'm not into all the gore stuff.

I remember drawing pictures of MK vs SF during class waaaay back in 6th grade.

#31
CLupula said on February 22, 2017 at 2:31 p.m.

If MK came out without any of its violence, no one would buy it and the MK fanbase would be in an uproar, just like they rightfully were with MKvsDCU. If they can't make a crossover as violent or more violent than MKX, then they shouldn't do it. I never bought MKvDCU purposely because it wasn't as gory as the others.

#32
Metalhart00 said on February 22, 2017 at 2:32 p.m.

I love Xovers but there's got to be some better ideas out there.

#33
CLupula said on February 22, 2017 at 2:32 p.m.

Problem with a Killer Instinct crossover is it'd have to be Xbox Exclusive and that would not be good for sales, the system not even having sold half of what the PS4 sold.

#34
That_guy_who_plays_DOA said on February 22, 2017 at 2:33 p.m.

https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2015/n...

You know how you win arguments? Data.

#35
BlankaBeast said on February 22, 2017 at 2:34 p.m.

Art styles and themes are too different.

#36
Opulence said on February 22, 2017 at 2:35 p.m.

Please no! If they do make this crap. as crazy as it sounds to say this in 2017... I'd rather capcom handle it. Street fighter charecters moving like they have osteoarthritis is not something I'd like to see come to fruition.

#37
Shadude said on February 22, 2017 at 2:39 p.m.

I remember watching Street Fighter vs Mortal Kombat on newgrounds thinking that they should totally make this an actual game but thinking about it now, I'm not sure it will work. It will be interesting though.

#38
Blackoshinomi said on February 22, 2017 at 2:40 p.m.

I think this entire idea of SF VS MK should have just stayed that !

A idea ....

#39
NyuBomber said on February 22, 2017 at 2:41 p.m.

Could it happen? Of course.

Will it be worth the wait/live up to anybody's fantasy/be good on its own merits?

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeehhh....

#40
Owlflame said on February 22, 2017 at 2:43 p.m.

Similar to when the owner of spawn said MKX could totally use spawn, now everyone is gonna be coming up to me on facebook

"MK VS SF confirmed"

I wish this community wasn't a bunch of morons, I really do. But they are, so I gotta put up with it.

#41
Heta said on February 22, 2017 at 2:43 p.m.

Do it Ed! This sympathetic man is a gift to mankind. And go full maim. Crushing skulls and bloodbath can be shared with other fighters. It's just another way to die!

#42
samuel141 said on February 22, 2017 at 2:43 p.m.

Yeah, add lots of guts, lots of blood, and just make the characters bounce like paddle balls and you've got yourself an excellent game, according to E.B.

#43
samuel141 said on February 22, 2017 at 2:46 p.m.

Just go check how many people donated to the charity run for EVO 2017 for MKX. Literally people are paying to not see that crap anymore on EVO. Mic drop.

#44
SylasGrayson said on February 22, 2017 at 2:50 p.m.

But someone's already made a SF vs MK game :^)

https://youtu.be/gbNYWRWRuwg

Also, https://youtu.be/F7DZpTYQP_E

#45
fakersgonnafake said on February 22, 2017 at 2:51 p.m.

Can't see it working out too well.

#46
AngriestAngryArtist said on February 22, 2017 at 2:55 p.m.

Oh Ed, you're better off doing crossovers with horror movie icons and things with similar themes.

Crossing over with SF will mean MK will have no gore of any kind.

On an interesting point though...if Capcom does the animation, perhaps MK will finally have animations that looks dynamic instead of being stiff :P

#47
HooliganComboFTW said on February 22, 2017 at 2:57 p.m.

How is that relevant to sales or even the health of a company?

#48
AveMcree said on February 22, 2017 at 2:57 p.m.

false......Do we really have to pull out the stats again?

#49
bornonamonday said on February 22, 2017 at 2:58 p.m.


This is a better idea. Combined with both sides doing their own versions because both fanbases will probably only play the game their company makes.

Would be an interesting experiment to see how the darkstalker girls turn out in NRS style, though not just the fun kind of experimenting.

#50
AngriestAngryArtist said on February 22, 2017 at 3 p.m.

And in return Capcom can teach them how to animate! :D

#51
That_guy_who_plays_DOA said on February 22, 2017 at 3:02 p.m.

I mean first off, your comment doesn't take away from anything I said, at all, in the slightest. Idk why you bothered saying anything.
IJ2 is the new NRS game, there isn't a point to MKX being there as the community as a whole agrees they'd prefer to simply move on. Imagine that, a whole community agrees and people still try to make it out as something bad. The general IQ of the fgc seems room temperature sometimes, like, does anybody think before talking anymore? Smh.

#52
That_guy_who_plays_DOA said on February 22, 2017 at 3:04 p.m.

Sure, I'd love to see everyone's hair flying through their shoulders and faces. Let's not pretend Capcom makes beautiful works, none of their games have looked next level since Idk...
The first DMC?

#53
Eye_of_Orochi said on February 22, 2017 at 3:07 p.m.

Ed Boon or Capcom should just do a poll of which Street Fighter characters we would want to see maimed the most and use those characters.

Sprinkle in Ryu, Chun, Akuma, and boom, new game!

#54
BlankaBeast said on February 22, 2017 at 3:10 p.m.

I don't want to see a game where chun or cammy had a fatality done to them.

#55
DJ_wHonda_ft_DJ_Slaps_MTL said on February 22, 2017 at 3:11 p.m.

when's Looney Toons and Disney movie?

#56
That_guy_who_plays_DOA said on February 22, 2017 at 3:15 p.m.

I'd love to see my homeboy Johnny Cage stick an award through Ryu's skull, but I understand why nobody else would. This is hard to do because MK characters moveset's by default typically include eyegouging, snapping limbs, and dick punches.

#57
AngriestAngryArtist said on February 22, 2017 at 3:19 p.m.

That's physics of the unreal engine 4 not actual animation rigging :P

Looked next level? what do you mean like in terms of graphics? That can be said about a ton of the games. Especially the RE series.

The first DMC was great, but DMC3 was goddamn amazing.

#58
Maximum_Viper said on February 22, 2017 at 3:19 p.m.

Nothing can satisfy everybody.

#59
Heta said on February 22, 2017 at 3:19 p.m.

Who Framed Roger Rabbit is the closest you get.

#60
Zephyrus said on February 22, 2017 at 3:20 p.m.

please do

#61
StarOcean_3 said on February 22, 2017 at 3:20 p.m.

Wont happen and neither should it ever. Now, MK vs KI would actually be worth playing. Not some watered down version of MK, because a Mortal Kombat = fighting to the death. MK vs DC is what happens when MK isn't allowed to truly reflect what MK is actually about.

#62
Mellowcow said on February 22, 2017 at 3:24 p.m.

SKIP

#63
AngriestAngryArtist said on February 22, 2017 at 3:33 p.m.

are you counting the spinoffs? like sub zero and special ops thing? LOL

#64
EightFrameGod said on February 22, 2017 at 3:34 p.m.
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#65
fawaz said on February 22, 2017 at 3:37 p.m.

Imagine Shinku Hadokens and Raging Demons becoming fatalities...

This might actually work; you never know.

#66
ZHZ90 said on February 22, 2017 at 3:38 p.m.

I would love that to happen but after SFXTK, I feel this will be more of SFV vs MKX just like SFXTK was SFIV VS Tekken 6 when it comes to roster choices.

#67
hakan_mania said on February 22, 2017 at 3:47 p.m.

Only way I see this happening is using digital sprites like back in the 90s. They can reuse old MKII and SF the movie sprites and produce it as a low budget low risk game for novelty purposes. Any major production faces high risks of failure. Plus we wouldn't really care if JCV gets his head chopped off instead of any other Guile model.

#68
Batey9 said on February 22, 2017 at 3:52 p.m.

Will never happen. Capcom does not want any of their franchises associated with the blood and gore gimmicks. If NRS developed the game it would just be another NRS gimmick game with mediocre gameplay at best.

#69
Batey9 said on February 22, 2017 at 3:54 p.m.

What MK is actually about? You mean gimmick tactics to drive up sales while the gameplay is sub par?

#70
AngriestAngryArtist said on February 22, 2017 at 4:06 p.m.

2.2 billion sounds like WB studios not NRS. You sure?

#71
Jurpo said on February 22, 2017 at 4:11 p.m.

If that game (wet dream of FGC) would happen it would have to have equal amount of characters from both sides. Something like this and it should be very violent and bloody.

Ryu - Scorpion
Face characters which must be included.

Ken Masters - Sub-Zero II (Kuai Liang)
Secondary face which must be included.

Chun-Li - Sonya Blade
Both are first female characters of their franchises.

Guile - Jackson 'Jax' Briggs
Military characters and directly work with first female characters.

Dan Hibiki - Johnny Cage
Comical, well-intentioned characters which can work as observers and provide comedy.

Rose - Kitana
Both are regal females with connection to big bad.

Juri Han - Mileena
Psychotic, deviant villainesses with exotic facial traits.

M. Bison (dictator) - Shao Kahn
Big bad of franchise. Might not be the most powerful, but clearly most active.

Akuma - Shinnok
Immensely powerful boogeymen which are feared by everybody.

Gouken - Raiden
Big goods and mentors to heroic side of their franchise.

F.A.N.G - Shang Tsung
Loyal henchmen of big bad.

Balrog (boxer) - Baraka
Savage enforcers of big bads will.

Sagat - Kotal Kahn
Reasonable and sane, but ultimately on big bads side.

T. Hawk - Nightwolf
Native american characters. Just so.

Gen - Liu Kang
Masters of chinese martial arts and immensely powerful fighters in their franchise.

Ibuki - Reptile
Sneaky, confusing fighters.

Rufus - Bo' Rai Cho
Both are fat, but skilled fighters with cheerful personality.

Vega (claw) - Kung Lao
Both carry weapon visibly and utilize it in their battle. They also have distinct article of clothing on their heads.

#72
Gurpwnder said on February 22, 2017 at 4:17 p.m.

I was imagining Fei Long with Liu Kang.

#73
NeufCink said on February 22, 2017 at 4:18 p.m.

Non merci ça ira

#74
StarBuster said on February 22, 2017 at 4:19 p.m.

Liu Kang should be on zombie team with Nash

#75
TheBlackPigeon said on February 22, 2017 at 4:19 p.m.

Tch. The real question is when is the Street Fighter/Shaq Fu crossover going to happen?

#76
Batey9 said on February 22, 2017 at 4:22 p.m.

NRS did not take in $2.2 billion. That's absurd. You do realize that they are owned by WB and that is probably WB's totally revenue, right?

#77
cantban2dgod said on February 22, 2017 at 4:27 p.m.

I'm not a fan of sfxmk period

#78
chrobaciky said on February 22, 2017 at 4:28 p.m.

It'll happen at some point.
I'm finally over fatalities anyway some brutal ultras could be awesome.

#79
Serperiority said on February 22, 2017 at 4:34 p.m.

I understand your reasoning but I would switch Rose - Kitana to Cammy - Kitana and put Rose - Sindel instead.

#80
Agentownshiprebelion said on February 22, 2017 at 4:35 p.m.

You know what? I was with those that said it we be an aesthetic nightmare and you can't have fatalities etc. But we only live once. Do we really want this to never happen? And I think a moral kombat game can live with out its fatalities for one game. Especially if it gets to fight street fighter in exchange

#81
shambles said on February 22, 2017 at 4:35 p.m.

never gonna happen

#82
AngriestAngryArtist said on February 22, 2017 at 4:41 p.m.

This... LOL! I was like..No....nooooo if NRS makes that much they wouldn't be working with WB studios :P

#83
GensDisciple said on February 22, 2017 at 4:41 p.m.

Love to see average guy RYU in pieces!

#84
Rizz091 said on February 22, 2017 at 4:52 p.m.

I would love to see that.

#85
bornonamonday said on February 22, 2017 at 5:01 p.m.


Rufus and Bo Rai Cho in the same game would be both hilarious and rage inducing, god knows what Rufus would learn from Bo to take on Ken. Juri and Milenna probably ends in sex and broken bones. Shinnok might actually manage to break Akuma's stoicism and make him angry. Bison and Shao Khan would probably insult each other constantly. Gouken would probably take Raiden drinking to talk about their problem students.

Maybe this would work better as a story than a game. The interactions would be pretty fun.

#86
Bird_LaoX said on February 22, 2017 at 5:02 p.m.

Well at least the NRs version will have a playable netcode!

#87
Bird_LaoX said on February 22, 2017 at 5:04 p.m.

SF games animations are horrible idk what you are talking about lol.

The dif is moves are usually faster in SF games so it's makes it much less noticeable.

#88
AngriestAngryArtist said on February 22, 2017 at 5:04 p.m.

After a year?

#89
Bird_LaoX said on February 22, 2017 at 5:11 p.m.

Really? Lots of games use UE4 and they have no sich issues lol.
Baised capcom fanboy is biased!

#90
Bird_LaoX said on February 22, 2017 at 5:12 p.m.

All new Nrs games will have the same updated netcode now so your argument is kind of like a 8 year old kid.

#91
Bird_LaoX said on February 22, 2017 at 5:14 p.m.

NRs is not a company but a developing team, now WB is and they are def much bigger.

#92
Phtm_Miria said on February 22, 2017 at 5:16 p.m.

I wouldn't mind seeing Cammy snapping necks for real in a game like this.

#93
Phtm_Miria said on February 22, 2017 at 5:19 p.m.

This idea suffers from a fatal lack of Cammy.

To fix this I suggest to do away with Chun-Li. She's obsolete, old and ugly anyway.

#94
Kavey said on February 22, 2017 at 5:23 p.m.

That depends what did NRS release in 2015?

3 MKX caliber releases could net the 2.2 billion easily.

#95
AngriestAngryArtist said on February 22, 2017 at 5:33 p.m.

somehow I doubt anyone who has been following SF games would call SFIII's animation quality to be horrible.

While the animation in NRS aren't horrible in terms of number of frames etc. It's the style and dynamic and feel of the animation that's different, it feels stiff.

I can make a punch animation that consists of 200 frames it doesn't mean it'll be dynamic.

#96
ShinHayato said on February 22, 2017 at 5:34 p.m.

I'd prefer a crossover between Capcom and DC Universe. Let the gore stay with MK.

#97
AngriestAngryArtist said on February 22, 2017 at 5:35 p.m.

is that a fact or an assumption?

NRS updated their netcode after a year. It remains to be seen if Injustice 2 will release without a hitch.

So you can't make claims they'll have flawless netcode. Even after the update people are reporting trouble with their experience as well.

I state facts when it comes to this sort of thing not opinions.

#98
ER_Mac3 said on February 22, 2017 at 6:03 p.m.

Yeah, would be hype, but I wouldn't want NRS losing any time in this when it's already hard to get 1 full canon MK game in 4 years because of Injustice developments.

#99
Tsujimatsu said on February 22, 2017 at 6:08 p.m.

It would feel weird seeing Ryu, who has spent the entirety franchise talking about how he doesn't want to give into the Dark Hadou and become a bloodthirsty demon, decapitate a man with a Shin Shoryuken and raising his fist up in victory.

I feel like there'd be far too many compromises, and in order to satisfy both sides, they'd have to make two separate games by both studios. And we all know how that has turned out in the past.

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