Unsafe specials, decent (but not broken) damage and plenty of technical mix ups; here's what we learned from Kolin's WSO showcase

Posted by John 'Velociraptor' Guerrero • February 21, 2017 at 3:19 p.m. PST

We got to see another Kolin highlight today on the WSO live stream, and we think we've got a pretty good initial impression of the newest Street Fighter character.

Considering we haven't played her at all yet, and have only seen footage from two showcases, please preface any and all upcoming impressions with the phrase, "From what we've seen thus far, it appears as though..." as I'd rather not write it fifty times.

From our takeaways today, Kolin is mobile, reset heavy, not a zoner and very technical. She has a few techniques like her command dash and double jump that have various options housed within them. For example, she can access certain target combos only from her command dash:


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She requires a lot of thought, and her damage is decent... which, for SF5, is a breath of fresh air. She has a very obvious strength in her potential for mix ups once she scores a knock down, and her V-Trigger stun mechanic is very interesting.

According to commentators on the WSO stream, none of her special moves are safe on block. This means players will not have the leisure of tossing out Hail Mary attacks in hopes that they'll hit and lead into big damage sequences. Her V-Trigger cancel has quite a bit of recovery, and we see that a V-Reversal will often negate it:

Her unique projectile that rains down from above opponents' heads will most certainly make for some interesting mix ups after knock down, but she'll have to earn her way into said mix ups.

It's early, but it looks like Kolin will be pretty fun to play with and against. Her obvious strength is in her ability to rack up stun damage, which we imagine will lead to some very tense situations in tournament play.

Her risk/reward seems decently balanced from what we've seen, but if she were to join the game as it is right now I don't think she'd be all that strong against the higher tiers. Hopefully she is a testament to the direction Capcom is taking SF5 in their upcoming balance patch.

You'll catch the full archive over at Capcom Fighters.

Comments

vesuvius said on February 21, 2017 at 3:21 p.m.

How are her normals?

#1
Travis2310 said on February 21, 2017 at 3:24 p.m.

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#2
darealclum said on February 21, 2017 at 3:25 p.m.

her cr mp looks godlike and she seems fun to play.

#3
malcrash01 said on February 21, 2017 at 3:32 p.m.

I feel she only does decent damage is with her normals and ridiculous with her V-Skill. The damage for her Ultra is pathetic and I feel it is least damaging right next to Ken's Ultra. Her V-Trigger has potential on being dangerous (similar to F.A.N.G's poison and Dhalsim's V-Trigger) but overall, I feel it is just a diet Rose with elementa of Decapre added while having a neat ice mechanic that wasn't used enough. She looks boring to play and not as fun to play compared to Ibuki and Rashid and Akuma, but that is my opinion

#4
Shumanigans said on February 21, 2017 at 3:46 p.m.

I think I'm starting to see what Floe was talking about in terms of her shenanigans being 'artificially limited'. Not a lot of room to freestyle unlike, say, Rashid.

Still gotta give her a chance since she has a legit counter, something SFV really needs more of.

#5
Xykes said on February 21, 2017 at 3:53 p.m.

They were saying on stream that her weak daggers might be safe on block if spaced properly...perhaps the right block string will naturally space her safely.

"Unsafe specials" aren't really a problem when you have good hit confirms, and she looks like she has good hit confirms. Cr. mp > st. mk seems really good.

Also, those counters are gonna be hype. They're so sudden (especially the AA one), they lead to a legit hard knockdown, and they do GROWN WOMAN damage.

She looks fun.

#6
Balrog1984 said on February 21, 2017 at 3:53 p.m.

I dont care if She's not strong, even though its way to early to tell obviously. She looks like a fun and technical character so i'm maining this cool chick.

#7
RandomSelectMaster said on February 21, 2017 at 3:58 p.m.

I am getting chills. She looks so much fun and cool! :D Will be my first DLC for Season 2... sorry Akuma. Once Kolin is a mother, she will be A Cool Ma

#8
GiBGUN said on February 21, 2017 at 4:05 p.m.

Mate she looks awesome. SF5 was already a *flawless* masterpiece, how can it get any better?!

I still don't get why Capcom themselves apologised for anything - everything went perfect from the beta all the way to now.

#9
BlankaBeast said on February 21, 2017 at 4:05 p.m.

Looks elusive and defensive. We will see how that works in offense party SFV.

#10
Velociraptor said on February 21, 2017 at 4:11 p.m.

-_-

#11
CODYYY said on February 21, 2017 at 4:15 p.m.

she has a +2 crMP.... does that mean she is broken? urien has a +2 crMK that everyone freaks out about Jebaited

#12
WhiteBeard said on February 21, 2017 at 4:17 p.m.

You are right. She does look awesome.

#13
Heta said on February 21, 2017 at 4:18 p.m.

Here it comes, utter joy when developers create a new character I'm obsessed with. That ''on your knees'' and ex damage have mercy! Your work is very much appreciated Capcom that V really stands for victory. I like her neutrals nice animations.

#14
vindeeezel said on February 21, 2017 at 4:18 p.m.

Looks pretty bad. Counter might be interesting if you don't mind all the guesswork, and 1000 HP/stun is good, but didn't see anything potentially scary during the stream, or even anything good.

#15
XykesUnderOath said on February 21, 2017 at 4:19 p.m.

When the twitch stream broke, and everyone had to run to Youtube...Disappointing, but not unexpected.

#16
Rin_ said on February 21, 2017 at 4:22 p.m.

Lots of characters have +2 mediums on block, Akuma's is +3. Uriens only takes the piss because it hits low and has mad range. As well as the fact he has enough decent normals/command normals for pressure as it is.

#17
FightDirty said on February 21, 2017 at 4:22 p.m.

Don't question perfection when you see it.

#18
XykesUnderOath said on February 21, 2017 at 4:23 p.m.

Also Kolin being released on the last possible day of the month...can't really say that surprised me either.

#19
GiBGUN said on February 21, 2017 at 4:32 p.m.

Haha. I kid, I kid.

Except about her looking awesome. I genuinely think she does :)

#20
XxAngelChunLixX said on February 21, 2017 at 4:33 p.m.

But...she's broken. She's OP

#21
DriveCancelled said on February 21, 2017 at 4:47 p.m.

We won't make it to season 3, most of us are going to be left behind.

#22
kukuteku said on February 21, 2017 at 4:49 p.m.

-_- wait a minute... Sarcastic or you two are the same person....

#23
GiBGUN said on February 21, 2017 at 4:52 p.m.

Well I do genuinely think she looks awesome. Jury is out on the rest of my statement.

#24
bornonamonday said on February 21, 2017 at 5:09 p.m.


I'll wait and see what two month in players hands will show before I'm convinced about her damage. First impressions in this game are rarely on point and the earlier gameplay demo showed good burst damage potential.

#25
ShinjiMimura said on February 21, 2017 at 5:11 p.m.

So they fixed Dhalsim's V-Trigger getting negated by Reversal and gave it to her?

Reversals should never outright negate Triggers. Triggers exist specifically to ask the question "What will you do now that you've activated it?"

And that question is true for everyone

...except Kolin, who must be super broken such that canceling a move on block with Trigger is unsafe against Reversal. You know, like how that was formerly what made Dhalsim tier 0

#26
dark_capp said on February 21, 2017 at 5:33 p.m.

V-trigger has activation frames too. Sim's V-trigger can still be shut-down completely if you V-reversal at the right time and your character's V-reversal is fast enough. Did you know that most CA can be grabbed-out off? Is that unfair too?

Really, the only unfair thing about Kolin is that there is no way to try her out before buying her. You have to rely on web videos to learn how she plays.

#27
KingKong said on February 21, 2017 at 5:45 p.m.
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#28
Prinz said on February 21, 2017 at 5:47 p.m.

Omg the olaf in the banner made me laugh so hard

#29
jase298 said on February 21, 2017 at 5:57 p.m.

Everything unsafe like Juri, looks like fun.

#30
NaughtyJuri said on February 21, 2017 at 5:57 p.m.

7 more days to THICK Helen <3

#31
soulspark said on February 21, 2017 at 6:04 p.m.

is this thick thing some kinda inside joke amongst u virgins?

#32
KingKong said on February 21, 2017 at 6:13 p.m.

for real, she's not even thick... these guys better turn the console off and go outside, meet real people for a change.

#33
MatureVice said on February 21, 2017 at 6:16 p.m.

LOL sure, this design is 'average and bland' but "literally just Bruce Lee" is definitely a dynamic, original character.

#34
KingKong said on February 21, 2017 at 6:24 p.m.

What's wrong with Bruce Lee? He is the greatest martial artist of all times. Fei, Law, Jann Lee, no matter what game, all Bruce Lee clones are awesome, that's a fact. Besides Fei Long has always been an badass character with fun gameplay and awesome moves.

#35
Stiqman said on February 21, 2017 at 6:31 p.m.

Her cancelled command dash looks like she made a little 'accident' on the floor.

#36
MatureVice said on February 21, 2017 at 6:35 p.m.

Nothing is wrong with Bruce Lee, but Bruce Lee clone characters are about as generic as a fighting game character could possibly be.

#37
Smorgasboard said on February 21, 2017 at 6:45 p.m.

I seriously LMFAO when you gave Sagat, Fei Long and T. Hawk as examples of interesting character design. Those stereotypes would be ridiculed off the face of this planet if they were new characters in SFV. Only being released 25 years ago when people didnt know any better made them acceptable.

I dont think Kolin's design is that great but she is more popular with fan artist and cosplayers. So Capcom did learn that from Kojima at least.

Kolin's gameplay looks to be a mix of Gouken and Decapre. Two characters that had multiple playstyles and werent the most straight forward to play. She is also designed specifically to take advantage of SFV mechanic, gameplay and technology, something that cant be done as much with older characters.

Just like SF3 and SF4, its always the new characters that have the most innovative designs compared to old boring characters.

#38
coolcamx said on February 21, 2017 at 6:48 p.m.

No I demand a massive overhaul of all of fei moves. Keep the rekkas , sf4 made it better...but sheesh if he really is the best make it so capcom

#39
Amoni said on February 21, 2017 at 7:03 p.m.

Range and hit low. It is different.

Akuma Cr.MP is also heavily + oB but it doest really make his poking game the best

#40
NOOB99 said on February 21, 2017 at 7:37 p.m.

Meh. If Capcom's not going to add Elsa then imma pick Kolin instead. Bye Karin. :(

#41
XxAngelChunLixX said on February 21, 2017 at 8:18 p.m.

I agree with this and #32 100%. It's creepy as hell, but it's a "joke" when it's called out as such, been through that conversation a bunch of times.

But you lost me when you had the nerve to list Sagat, Fei-Long, and T. Hawk of all characters when you claimed "interesting designs". You couldn't possibly have gotten any blander, more generic and awful designs than that. Rose, Abel, C. Viper, Sodom, Poison, Dudley, pretty much everyone is s more interesting design than them. I'm lost.

#42
dfly said on February 21, 2017 at 9:05 p.m.

Wow chill out snowflake. Pun intended

#43
Unknown_Unknown said on February 21, 2017 at 9:31 p.m.

She gets to keep all of her v trigger guage though.

#44
Nevran said on February 21, 2017 at 9:57 p.m.

I am quite sure that as fun or complex she is, she can't reach top tiers status in a meta where burst damage and hail mary move are very efficient while she doesn't have that.
Except if she has good pressure like Rashid or her okizeme is laura tiers, I can see her struggle just by this archetype.

Will maybe depend of how viable counter can be.

#45
Balrog1984 said on February 21, 2017 at 10:37 p.m.

Wow i know everyone had opinions but damn your taste is bad lol.

#46
4kgk2 said on February 21, 2017 at 11:02 p.m.

My only issue with kolin is that she releasing the same day as horizon zero dawn😥. why are you releasing this character same day as of one of ps4 biggest exclusive of year Capcom this a dumb move. Now I got to fit time in to play both them.

#47
downvote said on February 22, 2017 at 12:04 a.m.

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.

I just remembered I preordered that game too!

RIP social life.

#48
Maryokutai said on February 22, 2017 at 1:10 a.m.

Short range.
Low damage.
Specials need to be hit confirmed.
Technical.

Day One Kolin mains already dropping her.

#49
bornonamonday said on February 22, 2017 at 5:28 a.m.


I'm keeping her because she may be the only character that will fit my playstyle, cant wait to get in the lab with her.

I'm noticing that people are making the mistake of thinking of her moveset on purely offensive and rushdown terms, when she appears more geared toward defense, countering and whiff punishing. Wong pointed out her mobility is nearly on par with storm, meaning she may be excell at forcing and captilize on mistakes

#50
CharmingRogue said on February 22, 2017 at 6:20 a.m.

She doesn't have low damage lol. Fang and Chun have LOW damage. Kolin's damage is alright. But it's not Balrog/Karin's level of damage.

#51
Neoxon said on February 22, 2017 at 6:44 a.m.

Not to mention that Zelda: Breath of the Wild is out only 3 days later.

As for me, seeing as the Switch bled me dry financially, I'm probably gonna get Horizon later.

#52
Maryokutai said on February 22, 2017 at 6:51 a.m.

Fang and Chun have awful damage but compared to most characters in this game Kolin is on the lower end of the spectrum no matter which adjective you want to use to describe her damage output.

#53
Markin013 said on February 22, 2017 at 4:30 p.m.

Leis GO xianpai play Kolin😍

#54
TulpaVision said on February 23, 2017 at 9:10 a.m.

I can't wait to play her in SF4 I played Guy, Decapre,Gouken....in SFV I play Bison and Juri (who has no plus specials either) so I am hype for Kolin and can not wait to explore her to show her max potential that is hidden because she's not your typical YOLO character...also can not wait to see DESK combos with her.

#55


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