Super Smash Bros. Melee running widescreen in HD with no lag via Wii U

Posted by Jonathan 'Catalyst' Grey • August 7, 2013 at 8 p.m. PDT
The Smash community has discovered an interesting solution to play Super Smash Bros. Melee on the Wii U outputted at 720p resolution, without lag.

While tests weren't ran extensively, two players said the game felt lagless when running in this fashion. Here's the video they recorded.
This is what you'll need to get this going.

• A Wii.
• A Wii U.
• Super Smash Bros. Melee disc.
• Homebrew channel installed.
• A 2GB SD card (not SDHC).

There's another clip after the jump which shows more of the setup and game in action, note that this video has some NSFW language.

You can hit the thread over on Smash Boards by Chain-Ace which explains the entire process.

Also, Chain-Ace said he'd have direct capture footage up on his YouTube page in the future, so check back there if you want to see things running in direct capture HD.

If this setup proves feasible for tournament organizers, it's possible we'll see Smash Melee streamed in HD at events in the future.

Chain-Ace noted that eventually GameCube games will be on the Wii U's virtual console, but this is a proof of concept for what may be in store for Melee fans in the future.

Via Alex Jebailey's Twitter.


SmokeRulz said on August 7, 2013 at 8:04 p.m.

Now that's pretty awesome.

I'd rather wait for it to go on the VC, though. Don't intend to play around with Homebrew on my console.

OrionStars said on August 7, 2013 at 8:11 p.m.

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franciscois said on August 7, 2013 at 8:19 p.m.

thank god man, finally can work on those 1f link combos #Kappa

jme said on August 7, 2013 at 8:20 p.m.

Hey didn't Nintendo put that law/thingy whatever about people not streaming their stuff on youtube(I'm not referring to the EVO incident)? Or is it just that people can't profit from their stuff on youtube anymore?

Major_Dog said on August 7, 2013 at 8:28 p.m.

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zUkUu said on August 7, 2013 at 8:37 p.m.

...or just use an emulator on a mediocre+ PC and enjoy a 1080p, widescreen 60fps+ game with optional anti aliasing and downsampling?!

theshredder39 said on August 7, 2013 at 8:41 p.m.


They changed their mind about that so it's all good.

saiferoth said on August 7, 2013 at 8:52 p.m.

Catalyst, here's the direct-feed footage.

xShonuffx said on August 7, 2013 at 8:59 p.m.

@2 "But the problem is that it's impossible to set this up as one of the requirements is a Wii U and nobody owns one of those."

Except people who actually play Smash Bros. Troll. Nice try. This is a great find and imam try it out.

@7 @4 They didn't change their mind per se, they just said they wouldn't go after people but they still have the right to do it if they want. Its just a safety precaution to protect their investment.

aceinu said on August 7, 2013 at 9:42 p.m.

Who owns a Wii and a WiiU?

OhYouDontSayThat said on August 7, 2013 at 10:08 p.m.

yo #2
whats buggin u bro? no one likes? its prolly ur personality dawg, work on it and keep trying

kirbykirbykirby said on August 7, 2013 at 11:09 p.m.

I want to play melee online.

tediz421 said on August 8, 2013 at 12:30 a.m.

been playing melee HD on dolphin for a few years now

Yung said on August 8, 2013 at 2:33 a.m.

#10 Me.

Crysalim said on August 8, 2013 at 3:16 a.m.

I bought a Wii U day one - I'm a silly Mario Bros fan like that. I know software will come, and I'm just waiting for it.

dtbighead0812 said on August 8, 2013 at 4:46 a.m.

might wana try this out in case the new smash sucks and i have to play melee for 10 more years

Kingface said on August 8, 2013 at 5:15 a.m.

#6 - Running Melee HD on Wii U would be a more viable option for running at Tournaments.

Jaxel said on August 8, 2013 at 9:35 a.m.

Unfortunately, this will never fly in the Smash community.

I myself discovered my own ways to run Smash in HD and I tried to get the smash community to convert to it. I even got some HIGH LEVEL smash players to try it out at smaller tournaments. They all thought it felt great and was lagless.

Here is a video: (you can see how clear and crisp the video is)

The problem is the perceived lag of 8-10ms of the EVO monitor. Even though no one can really feel 8-10ms of lag, the Smash community KNOWS its their and seem to think that their games are more affected by lag than any other games. They refuse to play on any setup that could have ANY lag.

The second problem is the older smash games are not Widescreen. By putting the games in HD, it gets stretched and ruins with the spacing on the screen. Smash Bros is a game heavily dependent on spacing and footsies and any change to that is very jarring.

AYOoOoOB12 said on August 8, 2013 at 11:26 a.m.

Guys , what kind of controller he is using in the second video ?

JakePeskin said on August 8, 2013 at 6:08 p.m.

ech but it's so much work

Yarott said on August 8, 2013 at 6:47 p.m.

@19: The Wii-U's Classic Controller Pro, I think it's called.

Krisp said on August 9, 2013 at 12:11 p.m.

@Jaxel melee and brawl communites are together but separate. We've been having discussions about using many different ways to play laglessly on the evo monitor, so far we've had many people run lag tests, run locals on them, stream friendlies and others simply saying they've tried and liked it.

No one wants to make the full switch because CRTs are 15$ and work better but top players including the evo champ for ssbm have said under a frame of lag is negligible since you just adapt to it after 10 minutes of play. All CRTs have varying amounts of lag, even if they're less that the evo monitors they're not much less. So basically, if an event organizer is willing to provide the set ups we would use them, especially if it means more evo or MLG.

If we are expected to provide set ups like we were at Evo, we'll be using the 15$ CRT instead of the 300$ Aver Media LGP+Evo monitor set up. The MIOM podcast did discuss this though and even received a set up from a sponsor they intend to let the evo champ try out and a good portion of the community is stoked if it plays well and means we can get back into the MLG.


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