https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALw...
Guys got balls sayiing this bets its goona make some people salty
"We did not just follow the poll rankings as law, there's a lot of elements that come into play when creating a roster and gameplay styles, and it's not necessarily our job to give fans exactly what they want — it's our job to be innovative and give fans what they don't even know they want yet," he said.
"Very soon in the future, you will see brand new characters for the franchise,"
Oh man, I'm getting more excited for San Diego Comic Con and EVO! Following up from K-Brad, we need a SF character that does a Stone Cold Stunner as a throw lol
Let's go!
maybe one Darkstalkers character? Rival schools? it would be fun.
I am as excited as the time i ask my paernts for a SUPER NES just to play SF2 back in 1992, when i got the Dreamcast to play SF3 and my PS3 to play SF4.
Just please dont forget the SF3 characters.
Thank you capcom
Yeah, you'll only have one disc, doesn't mean you're not paying any further.
I miss the days when Seth Killian would do these interviews. He made the games sound interesting, but i can't stand Matt for some reason.
I'm really hoping Capcom does an actual story mode. It doesn't need to be as grand as the ones NRS does, hell, it could even be on par with the one DoA5 has, just don't go the SoulCalibur 5 route...
As for characters...After adding Birdie in the game (which is okay) but with a redesign that I dislike, I am kinda worried what they would do if they did bring back characters I do want to see.
Interesting to see in that poll how high Karin is yet there are so many people on EventHubs that still refuse to acknowledge that she's extremely popular within the Street Fighter world and call people out for liking her and label them a weeaboo.
I wonder if Ryu fans are weeaboos too or is it simply that people can't stand the fact that others like a female Japanese character?
Seth was the realest Niqqa but we shud give this guy a chance to
So all of our favorites are probably fffkd.
Cody dudely makoto dan oni evil ryu hugo.
Instead we got yawn... birdy
Matt is extremely knowledgeable and very plugged into our scene.
He told me he reads EventHubs, including the comments, all of the time.
Would give the dude a chance, FGC is super rough on people sometimes, but as I said, Matt is heavily plugged into our scene and very much cares about its growth and development.
He and Capcom have some very nice things planned for the community.
At the end of the day, you can feel however you want to, but I would give the guy a chance. He's doing a lot of good things behind the scenes.
Oh i respect him, i just don't understand why i cant like him.
Backhanded promotion much?
Funny how you guys are the absolute most vocal people who brings up the subject far more than the fans of the consistent first and very popular second, of the poll you love bringing up so much.
When people hate on SF3 characters, I never see the level of butthurt as the Karin fans express when Karin is hated on, and when people attack SF3 characters they attack them hard.
LOL you heard the guy reads the comments section homeboy automatically starts promoting his mixtape LOLZZZZZZ
Birdie wasn't a Final Fight character, but if im not mistaken, Him and Birdie did have a beef with each other.
I just thought it was funny as the guy mentioned he reads the comments you just start to suggest ideas outta the blue
When's Juri though? I need my Feng Shui Engine V-Trigger fix.
I think SF5 will have 24 characters initially, which is fine imo
https://imgur.com/kdOwEVp
Yes her character design is so.... Sigh, I don't even know, I'll just say unappealing. Even Ryu as plain and simple as he is pops out and just screams iconic, over any of his imitators. If she gets in here's hoping to some freshness for her design.
That aint true birdie is from Saturday Night Slammers (old school wrestling game didnt last long)
That's fair enough if you don't like her for her appearance and rekkas. But Karin fans mostly like her for her unique game play and play style. Not what she looks like.
Yeah Cody is my boy to be honest I'm a fan of Ghetto white Capcom characters they dont comes across to me as "I want to black" they just seem naturally street just look at Alex and Cody
"We did not just follow the poll rankings as law, there's a lot of elements that come into play when creating a roster and gameplay styles, and it's not necessarily our job to give fans exactly what they want — it's our job to be innovative and give fans what they don't even know they want yet"
It's tough to hear, but so true.
Sometimes, the FGC doesn't know it wanted something until it gets it.
I love it when a company listens to fans in many regards but also knows when to put their foot down and remember it's still THEIR creation. It shows that they have a deliberate creative direction they want to go with this game, and that inspires confidence...even if we don't necessarily agree on Capcom's every decision.
You almost sound like you're saying it's okay to bash a character because other characters are getting bashed on.
The most vocal ones usually just mean they're more passionate about character loyalty. And character loyalty doesn't mean disrespecting other characters because you don't like them as much.
It's okay if you don't like Karin or any other character but you need to understand that others do like them and the stats show. It's all a preference of taste.
I like the fact that Capcom is taking into account theme and tone, so I have a lot of faith that Capcom won't ruin the atmosphere with characters like Ingrid as she once was.
Ryu and Chun-Li might be in every upcoming Street Fighter, but Ken has been in every single Street Fighter to date with exception of V so far, something Chun-Li has not accomplished. I say Ken is more of a mainstay than Chun.
I know it's goona piss off some Karin Fans but I feel the guy honestly he just keepin it real he aint lying or trying to sugar coat #Keepin it real
Hope there won't be any on-disc DLC because that would seriously suck.
Technically. Game-wise, he originated from SF, but made a cameo (mentioned) in Slam Masters.
If you guys are ever able to interview them again I would like to know what will be included for online. Rematch feature, All play, Ping numbers, ft2 in ranked, maybe a ranked tier system, online modes such as team battle and survival things like that. I really hope they do more than just implement lobby and ranked that works. Really fill out those systems. Make them something special.
Chun is more diverse that Ken, 3rd Strike showed how capable and strong of a character she can be. Yeah Sure Ken was there since part 1 but so what? He isn't unique to say he is completely his own character and thats what the current roster is lookin for, Ken had his chance lets some new characters shine for once
Hard to say who's more mainstay. Sure Ken has been in more Street Fighter games but Chun has been in more CAPCOM games altogether and is the first lady of fighting games.
R.Mika is Thick with a fine azz there's no reason to nerf her health
"We are paying attention to how everybody handles story related content, and we will be doing things differently this time around for Street Fighter 5-"
Ooooooooo yeyeyeye
"it's our job to be innovative and give fans what they don't even know they want yet"
this is very true. tbh its kinda sad how we always want the old thing to come back even tho we want the new thing. There's gotta be a point where ya let go some. It's like that first day at daycare. no mommy or granmama... ONLY THE UNKNOWN... but hey ya kick and cry a while and ya throw a fit but then hopefully ya make some friends and ya dont mind it as much.
It goes both ways if that's the case. Yes it is a matter of tastes, that is the point, some probably feel other characters deserve a spot over other characters, some feel some characters clash with the artistic direction of the game, whatever the reason it is their opinion.
But forget all that, what I'm saying is one side has to put their foot down and not engage with the other. I think that side should be the fans, and the fans should just support the characters and not worry about the haters.
PS. I still don't understand how people can be that passionate about Karin, but it's not my job to understand ;P
I honestly liked C.Viper and Juri everyone else came across as a fail design to me
Agreed, it's always easy to say "give fans everything they want!" on the surface when it comes to any sort of medium, but it really is true that people don't know what they truly want until it is actually presented to them.
Not to mention that any given fan poll is only going represent a relatively small sample size of the entire consumer base, so there's no reasonable reason to use the character poll as the only indicator for who to put into SFV.
I agree. Fans should support the characters and not worry about the haters. That's why I'd never hate on another character because it's ignorant and disrespectful to there fans.
It's okay that people don't understand why Karin is popular. I feel she's mostly hated on because of her appearance which is quite shallow but I get it. She doesn't "look" like a fighter.
I wasn't loving the whole Rufus design until I used him more and more and now I love his character.
Capcom once took people feed back back in 2003 for Capcom all stars and the feed back was negative just because the game was on 3D so they canceled the game and gave us capcom sh1ty evolution on 2D and people hated it more after that capcom shuted its ears and stopped listing to people feed back and requests most of the time (nearly all of it) anyway because of these people we will never ever see a capcom all stars game for ever.
however capcom all stars had 3 original fighters (beside ingird) I believe one of them named D.D., the boss is named Death and a blond haired man ( I forgot his name) it would be cool to see them in SFV.
Seeing the poll again, Poison has a pretty good chance to make it into the game, she has a unique personality and the only rekka character with a fireball so... Fingers crossed for my main. I hope the new characters are made well like C. Viper and Juri. Everyone else was pure trash and didn't deserve a spot.
"...it's not necessarily our job to give fans exactly what they want."
Hold on a second there, buck. If you know what's good for... *reads two comments in a row advocating adding Dark Stalkers characters*
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Nope, never mind. You're totally right, Matt. Please, for the love of God, don't listen to this scene.
P.S. Cody and Dan. Get it done. Or don't get it done?
I've honestly never seen a character get so much hate and as much love as Karin. I guess she's a hit or miss character. I'm with you that fans should support characters and not worry about the haters but it is hard to ignore somebody slam something that you're passionate about. Especially when the comment made is rude and ignorant.
That is literally the opposite of a copout...
He stated, very plainly, that they aren't tethered solely to the fan's requests. That is a very upfront approach.
A copout would be saying something like "we listened to the fans, and we got as many characters in as we could, but some of the characters they wanted were impossible to reproduce accurately with the SFV engine."
THAT is a copout!
Exactly, If you were to poll anywhere near the multi million people that has played and bought Street Fighter games, I really think the polls would look different. I'd say it would be an accomplishment to not see the ST cast take the entire first 17 spots.
Then you'd bitch if it was off-disc and you had to pay more.
"We did not just follow the poll rankings as law, there's a lot of elements that come into play when creating a roster and gameplay styles, and it's not necessarily our job to give fans exactly what they want — it's our job to be innovative and give fans what they don't even know they want yet"
I'm one of the few that like what he's saying here. To me this kinda sounds like they are taking the NRS approach to this game in terms of characters. There ARE going to be cuts made and there are gonna be some butthurt people.
TOO MANY people want pretty much all their characters to return. Seriously, people need to learn to move on and leave some things in the past and let go. I would much rather a small roster than a big one. SF4 is almost just like a fan service game. It has way too many characters. I honestly think the first version of SFV is gonna be more than half less of SF4. (20-24 chars max)
The ONLY character I kinda want to see make it is Alex. I might not even main him but I would want to see him finally be back. If he doesn't make the cut I would really wanna hear Capcoms reasoning for that. He is hands down by far the MOST requested character that REALISTICALLY can make a comeback to the series. Yes some people say Karin but honestly she's never been a huge part of SF. Alex on the other hand was SF3's main dude (at least at the start of the game). So I really so no reason he shouldn't be back.
I also like "secret" characters. Unfortunately, there are three strikes against this aspect...
1- Their impact has been completely undermined by the internet. There is no mystery anymore. Within three hours of the release everyone will know the complete roster.
2- Capcom sells these games with their characters. Concealing a character that may sell copies is arbitrarily handcuffing the marketing department.
3- They are an incredible pain in the ass for competitive play. A lot of people are not interested in the least with the single player aspect, they want to buy the game and enter into the lab with their character (so locked characters are just an annoyance). More importantly, it is a pain in the ass for the tournament organizers who now have to unlock all the characters on multiple consoles.
I am HAPPY! More fresh faces = AWESOME! We need more fresh faces. If they were to do more iterations say "Super" down the line, then bring back the other characters and perhaps even more new ones.
I agree with that sentiment, but I also like a ton of characters. So, it is a pretty easy thing for me to say.
Truth be told, there are people who only take to a few characters. If those people don't like any of the cast, there is not much of an opportunity for them to get into the game. Sure, they could potentially love the new characters, but Capcom's track record hasn't been great with new characters...
Arcana Hearts has taught me that it is impossible to play a fighting game if you don't like any of the characters.
Well Matt please let us know when you're gonna reveal some characters that we'll actually be excited about. A nerfed down Chun with ridiculous looking air lightning legs that nobody on either continent that's gotten SF5 has been using, Zombie/FrankensteinCharlie and a morbidly obese Birdie aren't even remotely exciting. It isn't necessarily our job to support products that don't give us what we want and so far Cammy is about the only cool looking character in SF5. The game system looks good outside of Chun being so bad or bland she's basically been untouched in offline play thus far. So step it up with the roster already Matt.
As much as i want Dan in the game 9seeing as he's the main character) Birdie is just as welcome in my book, the fact that he's fat reminds me on megaman's inclusion in SFxT... and the last time i checked both Bob and rufus are tournament mainstays, so this is the era of fat... get used to it homie!
Uh. Did you read my comment? I stated I wanted a female grappler WITHOUT nerfed health.
And I agree. R.Mika does have a fine azz but her fighting style looked like crap. Thus the redesign comment.
If they are, it'll be because the fans support the game enough, and/or demand expansions.
If not, then they'll probably just do rebalancing and character additions like KI does.
It would be an absolute shame if Juri didn't make it in SFV she is a great and honestly the most unique character in the SF4 roster. She is a first in the series for taikwondo and Korean character, really a shame to discard her :(.
Uh, who was there parrying the heck out of Chun-Li's legs for what became one of the greatest moments in SFIII:3S history? Haha
Anyway I see where you are coming from, but no, cut back on clones somewhere else, Ken must enter Street Fighter V as a playable character, his tour has not yet finished. Make him have a totally new playstyle if you must, but do not ruin his perfect SF attendance out of no where for no good story related reason.
@How many and what are the games that Chun was playable in but not Ken?
Like I said earlier, if Street Fighter V doesn't include one of these ten characters (Alex, Necro, Oro, Q, Remy, R. Mika, Sean, Twelve, Urien, Vega) it will be a failure in my eyes.
No female Street Fighter V character's health was nerfed. That would imply they had an amount of health in SFV then got it decreased during the development progress of the game, which there is no evidence for.
All you're trying to do is push a gender equity quota.
Right on on Chun.
At this point, I honestly don't care how good Chun is. Her blandness is the biggest turnoff/upset. They took way too much from her without adding much except boring air legs. They left her basic af. What we were robbed of, off the top of my head:
-Aerial spin kicks (stomp kicks ender)
-Sen'enshu as SBK ender (EX?)
-Crit Art launch allowing followup into stomp kicks
-Double fireball during V-Trigger
The fact that nobody has been playing her doesn't help because right now, I'm not even sure if she still has some of the unique attacks that we've been shown in very early builds. While I don't want the broken double Soulfist back, it just seems somebody went out of their way to make what was a very hype Chun-Li into a droolfest.
Just venting lol.
So you also can't read comments huh?
That is not what the comment was about. I was commenting that female characters in SF games often have lower stamina then their male counterparts even when they are built on the same archetype/game plan. I hope SFV doesn't follow this previous pattern.
For example the ONE female grappler R. Mika still having lower stamina then Gief or Birdie in Alpha 3 despite being a grappler. Thankfully she wasn't too far behind.
Is it too much to ask for a grappler character (my favorite type to play) that looks good AND has good stats?
Is that so wrong?
I'm fine with her a$$ cheeks. They are a nice set.
She just needs to be animated being able to throw a damn strike instead of looking like she falls over in half her moves.
Judging from the unnecessary downvotes, it would seem you've triggered some Karin fanboys.
I like the fact that Birdie was very unpopular - based on the poll - and yet made it to the game. Now that I look at that poll, make all decisions based on popularity could be a huge disaster.
Imagine a new game with the likes of Blanka, Guile and Fei Long, and without the likes of Oro, Hugo and Abel. It's not that I don't like the popular characters, but with Nash we don't need Guile, and I rather have the twins instead of Fei. And Blanka... yeah, I hate Blanka.
How is that not you trying to push a gender equity quota? I read your comment just fine, and I addressed it just fine.
R.Mika is also much faster and generally more mobile than Zangief who is an already abnormally high stamina/strength character compared to most of the cast including the males. R.Mika also has more ways to grab from different angles, but I guess that stuff doesn't add up to your equation. Birdie is a charge/grab archetype closer to E.Honda and he too is much less mobile than R.Mika.
If you want ken back, it should be the Street Fighter 2010 version with bionics spamming laser beams and kicking parabolic projectile and teleporting all over the place. Character Reboot.
No there won't be that. They want one disc because they want the matchmaking playerbase to not be split off between discs.
Unfortunately females having lower health than males in games is a trend in all fighting games. Not just fighting games either. RPG's follow this rule too.
I would love to read an official article by a company such as CAPCOM that explains why they always go in this direction.
I'm not against it or anything but I still don't know the reasoning behind it.
If Capcom was to do a story mode, I for one really hope they don't use that Story Mode format (MKvsDC, MK9, DOA5, Injustice, & MKX) which involves each chapter you play as different characters & you have 4 battles until you switch to the next character until you've reach the final chapter. That format can be very limited especially each characters has their own goal & purpose (which that format is a bad idea), part of stories with fighting games & multiple characters aren't meant to have bigger single player similar to other genres.
Just having Arcade Mode/Story Mode which multiple characters have their own stories & rivals or set opponents (like SFA3, SFIV, SFXT, Skullgirls, DOA2-4, Tekken 4-6, Arcana Heart series, Soulcalibur III-IV etc.) is enough for a Single Player campaign along with other addition modes like Survival Mode, Team Battle, Ghost Battle, Tutorial, Command Training to name few.
But if they want to have bigger single player experience, I would still prefer where each selected character have their own story mode experience (similar to Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm Generations, J-Stars Victory VS, Fatal Fury 1, Art of Fighting 1, Warzard/Red Earth to name a few) or at the very least have story mode where the story itself progress and will wound up using said character or one character for rest of event or entire story mode (similar to SSBB, Dead or Alive Dimensions, Naruto games, Soulcalibur V). There are many ideas from various fighting games they could take for example other than MK's current Story Mode.
But will just have to wait & see what Capcom decides to do for single player.
I hope the supreme master of the fist makes a playable return. I don't think i'm ready to say goodbye to my boy Akuma.
Or it could be that females in general are less represented in certain games where the appeal and target demographic didn't call for them in certain series, which lead to more variations on male character types.
Next you'll be saying, 'why are males the protagonists of most mainstream video games?'
That kind of thing is just gonna lead to people wanting equity. I don't mind people wanting a certain thing in whatever they like, it's the 'why is it and has been this way' stuff that annoys me.
Bridie didn't appear in Final Fight, he first appeared in SF1 as first opponent you fight in England before fighting Eagle. Which SF1 only has 2 characters to play as for each player like Player 1 you can only play as Ryu while Player 2 you can only play as Ken, which every character was not selectable.
I have this bad feeling that they will be 5 years behind everyone again.
"But with Nash we don't need Guile"
There is no longer a charge projectile character in the game (yet). Nash is motion based now.
I can't imagine a serious street fighter without a serious charge projectile character that can zone/defend well.
Guile fits the bill..... maybe remy
They also said SSFIV:AE2012 would be the last version of SFIV. They also "said" that you could play local co-op online with Street Fighter x Tekken, 360 and PS3, but you could only do it on PS3. Remember that feeling of excitement and happiness everybody felt when they showed us Decapre as the fifth character for USFIV ? Precious memories.
I'm just another guy living in this world you know. I have my own problems, I have things to do, I have dreams and such, and I'm sure you're just like that too, we all are. So, I won't say how you should live your life or, I won't say what your opinions should be or anything like that ... but if I were you, I wouldn't trust Capcom. Never. But hey, whatever makes you sleep at night, hold on to it !
Why would anyone "trust" a business? You know they aren't making you a promise, right? They are informing you of their current business strategy. They didn't lie to us before either, they just changed their minds when an alternative strategy became viable. They are a company acting like a company.
Just found out that her back+HP can actually nullify fireball, but maybe during V-Trigger mode only.
Pssttt... Don't let too many people know about this or use it too many times in front of Capcom or Combofiend otherwise it will be removed due to being "too strong" :P
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