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'Kuroda Throws Down the Gauntlet' Weekly Playboy News columns go over the top 3S player's beginnings, tracks his progress in Ultra Street Fighter 4

Posted by Cheng Kai 'KarbyP' Sim • May 25, 2014 at 12:50 p.m. PDT

Before we even go into what these "Kuroda Throws Down the Gauntlet" columns are about, we should probably shed some light on what "Weekly Playboy News" actually is, first.

In Japan, publishing giant Shueisha owns the rights to the Playboy namesake, which they use to put out a weekly men's magazine -- Weekly Playboy -- that is really quite different in nature to the US publication of the same name.

And while the Weekly Playboy magazine is nonetheless naughty in nature, and does feature nudity, its Web presence, Weekly Playboy News, is more of a lifestyle and entertainment portal featuring content that is a little more well-rounded, and a tad bit more safer for work (though not a lot more).

Recently, the Weekly Playboy News portal has been running a series of columns where they interview Street Fighter 3: 3rd Strike legend Kuroda, whom they're calling an "urban legend" amongst fighting gamers, on how he got his start in the game.

Three parts of the irregularly-published column has surfaced so far. And each one has Kuroda square off against a top fighting gamer (which explains the column's title), in either 3S or Ultra Street Fighter 4, on top of profiling Kuroda's past through interview snippets.

Hit the jump to read our brief, translated notes on Kuroda's humble beginnings as a fighting games player, and to watch Kuroda take on top players such as Vanawo (3S) and Eita (USF4) in first-to-10 sets.

Brief notes on Kuroda's beginnings as a Street Fighter player:

- Started playing fighting games when he was in 4th grade (9~10 years old).

- Kuroda was raised by a single mom. As his mother would often return home late from work, Kuroda was not allowed to go out at night, unless it was to stay at the game shop nearby; which allowed for Kuroda's mother to locate him easily when heading home from work.

- Mostly played SNK games such as Fatal Fury and The King of Fighters '95. Kuroda liked the speedy feel of SNK's fighters, and found the graphics to be appealing.

- Although games like Pokemon were popular at the time, Kuroda said he took to fighting games because they were the easiest to play -- all you do is hit buttons to throw out punches and kicks, beat the CPU opponents to clear the game.

- At that age, Kuroda did not go to arcades often, mostly due to middle school/junior high delinquents often hanging out at his local arcade.

- When he did go to arcades, however, Kuroda spent his time mostly spectating matches, and memorising combos and footsie tools -- which he tried out in single-player against CPU opponents.

- Kuroda did not take pen and paper notes, as he thought he'd look pretty silly doing that for video games. Rather, everything he learned he would commit to memory.

- When Kuroda was in 6th grade, he started going to a particular arcade in Saitama where Japan's no.2 KOF'97 player hanged out at. Kuroda never got to learn his name, but would often refer to him as "Macho", due to his body physique.

- In the span of about 3 months, Kuroda finally became good enough at KOF'97 to beat Macho for the very first time.

- At some point, Macho moved on to playing darts for a hobby. In the meantime, Kuroda looked up to some other players whom he'd gradually learn to beat at SNK fighting games -- mostly The Last Blade 2 and KOF'97 and onwards.

- Kuroda did not actually play any SF3 until two years after it had come out. He had tried it on a whim after beating one of his rivals in The Last Blade 2 and King of Fighters, and he was shocked to find himself getting completely bodied in SF3.

- Kuroda began to learn the game, and a friend of his advised him to take a look at the way "Riki", a top SF3 player who plays Q.

- At that point in time, Kuroda did not actually play against human opponents much for SF3; he had mostly spectated, and practiced the tactics he learned against CPU opponents.

- Kuroda then bought an SF3 mook (fighting game strategy guide) -- his very first mook ever -- that had frame data for the characters. This allowed him to better understand the timing with which Riki had been using Q's footsie tools.

MOV vs. Kuroda in Ultra Street Fighter 4

More videos of Kuroda playing against MOV and AO over at "Kuroda Throws Down the Gauntlet" #1.

Kuroda vs. Vanawo in Street Fighter 3: 3rd Strike, 1st to 10

A couple more videos of Kuroda playing against Vanawo are available over at "Kuroda Throws Down the Gauntlet" #2.

Kuroda vs. Eita in Ultra Street Fighter 4, 1st to 10

Commentary from Kuroda and Eita on their matches also available, in video form (and in Japanese), over at "Kuroda Throws Down the Gauntlet" #3.

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MANDINGO said on May 25, 2014 at 12:52 p.m.

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Shredded said on May 25, 2014 at 12:54 p.m.

Weekly Playboy magazine =/= Playboy

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MANDINGO said on May 25, 2014 at 1 p.m.

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Yung said on May 25, 2014 at 1:04 p.m.

No Kuroda nudes ? (-̩̩̩-̩̩̩-̩̩̩-̩̩̩-̩̩̩___-̩̩̩-̩̩̩-̩̩̩-̩̩̩-̩̩̩)

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Remondo02 said on May 25, 2014 at 1:05 p.m.

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bananainsaneface said on May 25, 2014 at 1:06 p.m.
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Kuroda is washed up he was only good at the worst SF game (SF3) and his SF4 gameplay is not impressive.

#6
NoizyChild said on May 25, 2014 at 1:09 p.m.

And yet he'd beat you in his sleep.

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bananainsaneface said on May 25, 2014 at 1:11 p.m.
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Did you watch his Ryu lmao? He couldn't even beat Eita I body basic Ryu's like that all the time.

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Remondo02 said on May 25, 2014 at 1:12 p.m.

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rocorolly said on May 25, 2014 at 1:16 p.m.

Kuroda is still the best, he is really good at the the best Street Fighter game ever created (SF3.3) and he's pretty good at SF4.

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Remondo02 said on May 25, 2014 at 1:16 p.m.

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bananainsaneface said on May 25, 2014 at 1:18 p.m.
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Unique? SF3 is considered the worst in the series by most SF players.

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Remondo02 said on May 25, 2014 at 1:20 p.m.

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Getdownbrown83 said on May 25, 2014 at 1:22 p.m.

SF3 is my favorite fighter ever. there is no auto pilot, insane mind games, you will be exposed quickly if you can't play. You have to have insane reactions. A scrub will not beat you period in that game that's why you never ever see random players make it in tourneys in 3S. Don't get me wrong I love me some SF4 as well but SF3 will always hold the top spot too me. you will never see a bottom character win a tourney in SF4 but it has happened in SF3.

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Remondo02 said on May 25, 2014 at 1:23 p.m.

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Sage_Liebert said on May 25, 2014 at 1:26 p.m.

still not better than Garou: Mark of the Wolves

#16
Getdownbrown83 said on May 25, 2014 at 1:28 p.m.

GMOTW is a great game too.

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Remondo02 said on May 25, 2014 at 1:28 p.m.

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rocorolly said on May 25, 2014 at 1:29 p.m.

I agree with this, also The Last Blade 2 for me personally.

Edit: Actually all three are even to me.

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Getdownbrown83 said on May 25, 2014 at 1:35 p.m.

I could never figure out how to get any of the last blade games don't think they released in the states :( I looked forever and could never find em

#20
rocorolly said on May 25, 2014 at 1:39 p.m.

Only a bad port on PSX (Japanese ver. just to be clear) and a pretty decent one on DC I own both but I play on FBA GGPO.

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Remondo02 said on May 25, 2014 at 1:43 p.m.

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Sage_Liebert said on May 25, 2014 at 1:44 p.m.

I knew it would be a tough question for you all lol.

@rocorolly

I had much fun with Last Blade 2 on emulator long ago. had fun with Moriya.

#23
Getdownbrown83 said on May 25, 2014 at 1:46 p.m.

I have a raggaty computer which gaming is not possible lol so I could never use emulators or do GGPO

#24
rocorolly said on May 25, 2014 at 1:46 p.m.

I meant played*, I don't play any of these games anymore outside of local casuals.

#25
diddykv said on May 25, 2014 at 1:56 p.m.

3rd Strike ftw! Kuroda is a legend!

The guy won Tougeki multiple times, released tech for every single character of the game, and was a low tier hero (Q, Hugo, Oro).

Man, I know he is not as good in SF4, but who cares?

#26
Super_Honda said on May 25, 2014 at 2:03 p.m.

I have criticized 3rd Strike before and I actually sussed out the community a while back. I’m not going into details, but 3rd Strike created bad mind sets. I do agree that out of all the main SF games, 3rd Strike is the hardest SF to play for beginners, but at the highest level of play, I would disagree with that. It's debatable. I feel that 3S would’ve been a much deeper game without parries because for me, parries restricted the game's overall potential and it works better on 3D fighting games, not 2D playing field fighters like SF. Alpha counters are better. BTW, I main Urien in 3S which at the time I didn't know he's 1 of the hardest characters in the game until I read Momochi's blog on strongest characters in 3S. But he's still my main regardless because I like his style of play.

#27
SAMURAI said on May 25, 2014 at 2:07 p.m.

Kuroda is the Master!

#28
spotlesseden said on May 25, 2014 at 2:08 p.m.

3rd Strike is not popular because it's hard to play. Once top players like daigo quit, he went downhill. Even top player like MOV wasn't very good at the beginning of 3rd Strike. He has problem beating daigo and got bodied at evo.

#29
ScarletTerror said on May 25, 2014 at 2:15 p.m.

No that would be Street Fighter 1.

#30
SAMURAI said on May 25, 2014 at 2:19 p.m.

Kuroda & Daigo never played against each other in 3rd Strike right?
Who would win?

#31
Super_Honda said on May 25, 2014 at 2:25 p.m.

It's strange because I haven't seen that match up before, but I think Kuroda would probably destroy Daigo in 3rd Strike and I wouldn't say destroy for nothing. Watch Kuroda's play and compare it to Daigo's play in 3S and you'll see for yourself MOV and RX are very dangerous players as well.

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Remondo02 said on May 25, 2014 at 2:32 p.m.

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Getdownbrown83 said on May 25, 2014 at 2:33 p.m.

Watching SF3 looks like a street fight if people could actually have powers like in SF

#35
Memanruler said on May 25, 2014 at 2:34 p.m.

Third Strike is the worst game for beginners, and at this point in time, it's almost impossible to get any better at the game.

I love that game, the design, the characters, the art, everything, but that game is a towering wall of difficulty that is almost impossible to get good at (in this day and age).

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Remondo02 said on May 25, 2014 at 2:39 p.m.

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Drfunk said on May 25, 2014 at 2:42 p.m.

It really puzzles me why RX never got his due over in America. I mean whenever Gooteks (who mains Urien) ever talked about 3S (one of the few pro players who ever did) they always mentioned random Urien players but never the real master. Seriously, if you Youtube RX Urien.. you'll understand he was on an entirely different tier and made everyone else who used him look like scrubs.

There were some sick character specialists in 3s, Kokujin Dudley, Daigo Ken, Namjin Ryu, KO Yun then freaks like Kuroda/MoV who pretty much could play the entire cast at the super elite level. Honestly though, the skill level of that game was just far too high for a casual gamer to get into the game. Unlike SF4 series, no "serious" gamer would EVER lose to a scrub in the arcade in 3S and probably discouraged the majority of players of even trying.

I was glad to hear Nuki is trying to make a comeback for Ultra, would have loved to see Kokujin and RX give it a try but I guess they moved on.

#38
Remondo02 said on May 25, 2014 at 2:53 p.m.

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#39
Xykes said on May 25, 2014 at 2:54 p.m.

Kuroda is godlike.

Arguably the best 3S player ever, simply because of the wide character mastery.

#40
DaveNotti said on May 25, 2014 at 2:58 p.m.

RX was the sh*t! His charge partitioning with Urien was unlike anything I'd ever seen at the time, and I'd almost say still unrivaled to this day!

Other notables include Roshihikari [Yang] and Yamazaki [Twelve]

Man, soooo many legends.

#41
Super_Honda said on May 25, 2014 at 3:04 p.m.

I haven't heard of that player, but I just watched some of that guy's matches and he is very good. Urien is 1 of those characters who at high level, makes 3S a very entertaining game to watch.

#42
kentoirc said on May 25, 2014 at 3:08 p.m.

You must be smoking crack fool. SF3 is considered the BEST in the series by the FGC as a whole. What a DUMBA$$ statement. Dumba$$

#43
urien said on May 25, 2014 at 3:19 p.m.

Redmondo
The analogy with daiugo is false.
you're basing your comparison on 2004-2005 year ,but you forget that they had the same level back in time.MOV and Kuroda weren't that dominant back in the days.
There was Mester (best gun) messatsu (red crazy urien) and Ume-Nuki ,Spellmaster J ,boss,K,O,INO (owner of the arcade kuroda plays in,a crazy rasta dude),nitro,hayao.
kokujin,rikimaru.
to compare them to daigo who played the game relatively short is kinda unfair.

but the truth is you're right on a point :
2007-2009 is without a doubt MOV,KURODA,RX and Kokujin era ,only MOV and Kuroda won the SBO
but in arcades RX was owning everyone except MOV whose style is extremely unpredictable.
You should know something about kuroda:while he might seem unbeatable he shokes on chin-li consistently and every time its MOV who saves the day.Ive watched all their SBO ,kuroda is without a doubt the best Akuma player on the word,yuki otoko and giro are far behind in the mind game field.
Why people thinks he's the best in every character is because of his inhuman knowledge of the game engine.
He also have a perfect low parry ,actually i want to see a sweep on him !extremely rare.
Ive bought all his 16 DVD when i was in tokyo.
He plays the entire cast except chin-li and yang.

As for RX ,i started to like Brazil just because they invited him for a friendly casuals and the guy is just superb!!
He is behind the Urien technology.

And last why SF3 didn't catch the audience:you should all know that the majority of a FG players are casual players and not pro.
SF3 had so many ''elite'' stuff to learn before becoming viable in tourneys or between skilled players in arcade.
And if you remembered correctly most the top players camed from difficult other FG (ST,Snk)

PS:for the blind ,notice kuroda's confidence after a knockdown :he dashes multiple times to put you in the corner.His footsies is beyond what i've seen !!

#44
Super_Honda said on May 25, 2014 at 3:31 p.m.

That's a shame about RX not receiving big (or even some decent) attention from America because it's like you said, he plays Urien so well that every time I watch most of other good Urien players, they are somewhat average compared to RX. Nuki and other 4 Grandmasters are coming to this year’s EVO so it’s gonna be interesting.

Here's the thing that many people don't understand or have forgotten about fighting games: it's suppose to be 'easy to play, hard to master'. Games like SF4 can be easy to get into, but with so many different match ups, depth etc, it makes SF4 a very hard game to master. 3S for beginners will have no chance against players who are even at a decent level. But like SF2, SF4 succeeded at that but think about this: even if they tried their best, I don't think MOV or Kuroda would've dominated SF4 like they dominated in S3. Different games, hard to make a transition.

In fact, even for SF2 series which is a seemingly easy series in this day and age for many, I've watched some players who are so damn good that amateurs would have NO chance in hell of winning, maybe not even winning a single round. I agree that mastering parries takes time and effort, but tactics like zoning and spacing are some of the most hardest aspects to master in SF game. Only a few players can exceed at that.

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Remondo02 said on May 25, 2014 at 3:33 p.m.

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Remondo02 said on May 25, 2014 at 3:40 p.m.

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urien said on May 25, 2014 at 3:58 p.m.

I've searched for messatsu weeks but he's nowhere to be found,i was told he is working as a clerks for a shop in nagano.
but I've been told that he never took sf3 seriously.he loved toying with beginner.i had a long chat with sugiyama (yep THE necro) and he said he enjoyed very much playing messatsu.They called him Aka no otoko (Red man)

#48
Rupix15 said on May 25, 2014 at 4:18 p.m.

OMG....i for once i really love reading the comment section. Not much crappy/scrubby comments is one, but to see most of u guys turned out to be loving SF3.3 as much as i do is what moved me so much!!! >_<

To me it's still the best SF, n yeah it's a scrub-free game bcuz the scrubs couldn't get their random shi*ts to work, so they hate it.

#49
danistheman said on May 25, 2014 at 4:28 p.m.

Kuroda IS the best 3S player of all time.

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urien said on May 25, 2014 at 4:28 p.m.

in china we had arclive ,a GGPO like with some extremely strong players.
we made a videos years ago about to show our rivalry with japanese (they are the best in sf3)

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjU1NDA...

#51
BlackOnyxThunder said on May 25, 2014 at 4:38 p.m.

... k...

#52
weedian said on May 25, 2014 at 4:46 p.m.

OK, so aside from personal preference, why is it that you feel parries "restricted the game's potential"? Why do they work "work better" in 3D FG? Not trying to be cheeky here, just curious as to your reasons.

I actually like 3S parries, I like the neutralising effect they have and their potential for a player with good execution to turn things around as a comeback mechanic, quite different to ultras in SFIV.

#53
BigFleccs said on May 25, 2014 at 4:49 p.m.

Hope USF is fun to play, because it's boring to watch.

#54
shekeib said on May 25, 2014 at 4:57 p.m.

Top japanese players have crediteded kuroda as the best urien as well as some other characters

#55
urien said on May 25, 2014 at 5:04 p.m.

@57
thats BS !

no top players said that.show your proof
RX has the result on every SBO ,hundreds of videos to back up RX.
Kuroda has only 2 hours footage playing against top players.

Frankly at this point its being silly to compare RX to Kuroda with Urien.

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Remondo02 said on May 25, 2014 at 5:05 p.m.

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spotlesseden said on May 25, 2014 at 5:34 p.m.

Daigo was better Kuroda, MOV etc in 3s at the beginning because Diago learns faster than most players. Then After couple of years, they were better than Daigo. Same as Alpha 3, Daigo was almost unbeatable at the beginning, then people started to catch up to him after couple of years.

Beating daigo right now doesn't mean anything. Daigo won SBO before Kuroda(3rd that year) starting to get dominate in 3s.

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Remondo02 said on May 25, 2014 at 5:48 p.m.

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#59
AAKZ said on May 25, 2014 at 6:21 p.m.

He's a legend. Very surprised hes playing Ryu however.

#60
spotlesseden said on May 25, 2014 at 6:31 p.m.

troll? Mov has problem making top 8 at evo at beginning of 3s, Daigo was making top 3. Daigo won SBO before Kuroda.

Daigo was consider the one of the CvS players too. Winning alot Japanese tournaments. Later people catch up to him again. Daigo can learn very fast, I'm telling you.

#61
bananainsaneface said on May 25, 2014 at 6:37 p.m.

Super Turbo is considered the best and they still have big tournaments for it. Not SF3.

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Drfunk said on May 25, 2014 at 7:24 p.m.

I perfectly understand why Capcom "simplified" SF4 design. They even admitted they wanted to attract the old SF2 crowd. I'm not saying SF4 is a bad game, in fact the recent resurgence of the FGC can be attributed to its design "simple to get into hard to master". However just because it's a better commercial game doesn't mean it's a superior design to 3S.

The annoying thing about SF4 is the Vortex shenanigans (which hopefully gets mitigated with delayed wake up). For w/e reason Capcom decided to reward cheesy stuff ala UMVC3, footsies and yomi along with bread and butter combos could get you far, but you could easily lose to some BS setup by frankly good but not great players.

The game wasn't so much about being able to react but more about recognizing vortex setups. One wrong guess could lead to 35% dmg or worse into more 50-50 setups. Some characters had ways of escaping this retarded mechanic while others were told to stop crying and counter pick already.

3S on the other hand added a whole new dimension to the yomi game with parrying. Matches were exciting because even if you had no health bar left, you could still make a come back (as showcased by Daigo vs Wong parry). A top tier 3S match was NEVER over till the character was knocked out. It had that UMVC hype X factor comeback ability. There was no "cheesy stuff" because you could parry your way out of it if you were skilled enough. The true pros would even abuse the red parries to make ridiculous punishes.

The only flaw against that game was that it badly needed an update for balancing. At the highest level of play it became evident Yun/Chun/Ken were at the top of the food chain and everyone else was slightly below them or much further down.

That said, it's one thing to watch (insert random Cammy player) comeback from spamming EX drill link link link drill repeat bs.. quite another to watch a 3S master just beating the snot out of someone at a lower skill level.

Seriously, Tokido is a phenomenal FGC player but the prison rape he suffered at the hands of MoV at the 25th aniv tournament was criminal... 3S is the only game where great players can mentally teabag their opponent through ridiculous mind games (that doesn't involve retarded ambiguous 50-50 set ups).

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MANDINGO said on May 25, 2014 at 7:30 p.m.

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#65
alphaxkp25 said on May 25, 2014 at 7:31 p.m.

mov is the best 3s player. also the best chun player. he carries kurodas ass in every team tourney

#66
fgcismyboo said on May 25, 2014 at 8:49 p.m.

3s would have been perfect if parrying required meter which would have resulted in points where sf3 played like regular st and no parries. They corrected that with red focus. And the Evo 39 would still have occurred if daigo had saved exactly enough meter to stop justin. Capcom wants more Evo 39moments featuring red focus and they're bound to get them. Parrying made every jack hole who couldn't get around sf2 yomi an elite with the tap of a button and unlimited tries. You'll notice that all the American thirdstrike worshippers can't play basic sf2 strategy in st4 without their precious unlimited parry. Props to kurouda though and the 3s greats. They were talented in that game.

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Remondo02 said on May 25, 2014 at 9 p.m.

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Sage_Liebert said on May 25, 2014 at 9:10 p.m.

My only problem with 3rdstrike is the parry. It's not hard to execute if you know your opponents habits, but the parry made the game only one way to play and that's rushdown. There is no variety in character play styles.

#69
diddykv said on May 25, 2014 at 9:23 p.m.

I think is Evo moment #37. And I don't think parry and red focus can be compared like that. Sure, like parry, red focus can absorb multiple hits, but it's also way simpler to do.

Parry didn't require meter, but required skill. There was no such thing as mashing parry, because there was a strict timing, and it could be standing or low, a factor that should be accounted in the footsies game, both when you're attacking and when you're defending. A think that a "parry scrub" would only succeed against another scrub, and that's why I think your argument is invalid.

#70
rocorolly said on May 25, 2014 at 11:08 p.m.

Like the post up above implies, players can't just throw out parries willy-nilly, if whiffed it could lead to big damage or a game from the opposition. That is why great players bait parry happy players by going in and out of the opponents range and utilizing empty attempts, creating another layer in the footies game unlike anything else. Also parry loses to throws, so outside of empty attempts that's another way to mix-up your game and punish players too eager to parry.

Also if parry had meter it would completely defeat its purpose. The reason for parry is to give the players a tool to defend themselves and counter attack throughout the duration of the match, based on the one player's ability to read the other, despite resources. If the parry relied on meter (as in the traditional sense) this would take away that option when not present, thus defeating its purpose. Meter is use efficiently in the game as an offensive tool to mixup your patterns and amplify the effect of your attacks, a means to combat parry.

#71
Getdownbrown83 said on May 25, 2014 at 11:48 p.m.

Nice to see people that don't agree can at least do so like adults on this topic it's refreshing

#72
ChristianDMG said on May 26, 2014 at 12:52 a.m.

omg i use arclive too, i'm in vietnam so we can play sometimes! :D

#73
NDC said on May 26, 2014 at 12:53 a.m.

3rd Strike only for the purists

#74
NDC said on May 26, 2014 at 12:54 a.m.

And Kuroda the best hands down

#75
kdavis851 said on May 26, 2014 at 1:14 a.m.

That's how I always viewed the game as well.

#76
BladeStunner said on May 26, 2014 at 2:37 a.m.

Watching Kuroda win Tougeki with Q was mind-blowing

#77
DrooMighty said on May 26, 2014 at 4 a.m.

Aww, I'm sad to see nobody giving Deshiken love.

My favorite thing about Japanese 3S were the character masters. No matter what character you played, there was an undisputed God you could watch and root for, and with some characters you had several Gods. I know the same could be said for SF4, but with 3S (and maybe even more so, ST), the player/character connection feels so much deeper.

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Remondo02 said on May 26, 2014 at 6:11 a.m.

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Remondo02 said on May 26, 2014 at 6:36 a.m.

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DrooMighty said on May 26, 2014 at 6:39 a.m.

Yeah man, 3S is one of those games that gets an unfair reputation. American tournaments were always loaded with Chuns and Kens, so that's what a lot of western players thought the game was. We never had a Hayao or a Sugiyama, KSK or Kokujin. It was like USA and Japan were playing two separate games.

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MVRKHNTR said on May 26, 2014 at 8:24 a.m.

Street Fighter III: Third Strike is pretty much the only fighting game I can play competently / competitively. I tried to get into the SF4 series and although I like it, I just suck lol.

Anyway, the first time I heard of Kuroda was back around 2003, if I recall correctly, and it was because of his Q play. I always liked to mess around with different characters but up until that point I didn't bother with Q. It was only more recently that I found out that Kuroda was pretty much a master with every character.

My main in 3S was Dudley and while most people will always bring up Kokujin, my favorite Dudley player was Fujiwara.

#82
deus said on May 26, 2014 at 8:27 a.m.

Kuroda/MoV could pretty much play the entire cast? Eh not entirely.

Kuroda and Nuki could play the entire 3S cast to an elite level and defeat plenty of top Japanese players with all chars too.

MoV could use the top tier characters to an elite level but couldn't use the entire cast as well as Kuroda n Nuki, not even close.

Every character in 3S had at least 3 players that could use that character to an elite level n the names you mentioned were only the well known players, there are about 20 players that you could mention but don't. That said, of the few you did mention - RX n KO are some of my fav 3S players ^^

Pierrot (Remy player), Ino (Makoto player + played 6 other characters to a competitive level, probably the entire cast), Sugiyama (Necro player), Moge (Tweleve player) could list more but this is just a few players that i use to really enjoy watching back in the day. there was Mak player that only stuck around in the Jap 3S scene for about 2 years but i forget his name but i remember the mark he left.. anyway, point was to say that there's plenty of top players in 3S rather than all the household names that a lot of you remember. could go on forever but it's late lol

#83
MVRKHNTR said on May 26, 2014 at 8:39 a.m.

"there was Mak player that only stuck around in the Jap 3S scene for about 2 years but i forget his name but i remember the mark he left.."

I'm not sure how long he played 3s for, but are you perhaps referring to J?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ORCql...

#84
Remondo02 said on May 26, 2014 at 9:07 a.m.

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#85
DougQuaidHauser said on May 26, 2014 at 9:10 a.m.

damn this thread is full of wapanese hipsters....

#86
Remondo02 said on May 26, 2014 at 9:13 a.m.

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#87
ryu600RR said on May 26, 2014 at 9:41 a.m.

oh boy can't wait to see justin wong feature on penthouse next month
stay free 'murica

#88
Loryuo said on May 26, 2014 at 9:41 a.m.

Still think 3rd strike is an awful game imo, but props to the top players like kuroda that got to a high level in it.

#89
Getdownbrown83 said on May 26, 2014 at 9:44 a.m.

J's Makoto was a savage. Tokido actually made Sean look pretty beastly I really like genki's Alex TM has a great Q too which is a lot more on the offensive than kurodas I think what made kuroda so godly was his patience and his Defense was like no others.

#90
Remondo02 said on May 26, 2014 at 9:46 a.m.

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#91
Sage_Liebert said on May 26, 2014 at 11:17 a.m.

Not one mention of YSB in this topic. You all are frauds!!!

#92
diddykv said on May 26, 2014 at 1:16 p.m.

If I were to list my favorite players, I'd mention him. I use white hair Hugo because of him.

#93
yamazaki said on May 26, 2014 at 2:48 p.m.

ino makoto, ken, etc is different from inoue oro btw

#94
MVRKHNTR said on May 26, 2014 at 4:13 p.m.

"J's Makoto was a savage"

Yup! Here's the beatdown he gave Kokujin years ago (watch Kokujin panicking in the inset on the upper right of the screen hahaha!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QwYKq...

#95
Remondo02 said on May 26, 2014 at 4:22 p.m.

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#96
Getdownbrown83 said on May 26, 2014 at 4:39 p.m.

oh I love me some YSB

#97
Remondo02 said on May 26, 2014 at 6:39 p.m.

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#98
deus said on May 26, 2014 at 11:30 p.m.

Nuki Ibuki was probably top 3 in Japan or no. 1 for a long time. N i have seen Nuki play pretty much the whole cast n imo his alts were far better than MoV's alts - who i was comparing in the first place.

Everyone knows how great / exceptional Kurodo is with the entire cast n there's no debate going on there that excuses this lol

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Replying to MVRKHNTR comment #86
I think it could be him. tbh i'm not sure, i remember seeing a video of this Makoto guy destroying everyone that versed him. But hey, could of been his lucky day. Can't find the video on youtube >.<

#99
Remondo02 said on May 27, 2014 at 10:09 a.m.

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