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Yun trying to climb back to the top of the tier lists - With the help of Red Focus, this suave mixup can kill Akuma in one shot

Posted by Nicholas 'MajinTenshinhan' Taylor • May 16, 2014 at 7:51 a.m. PDT

While there's been a lot of talk of Red Focus potentially helping Yun a lot as a character, footage of it happening hasn't been as prevalent.

Thankfully, we've gotten a video from JD inc. which shows a great usage of Yun's Red Focus to lead into a divekick that can hit either in front or behind, and if it goes through, leads to death for Akuma, a character with 850 stamina.

Hit the jump to check out the video in action.

While this combo does require a full super bar and ultra bar, it's still an impressive showing of what capabilities Red Focus might hold for certain characters. There's also a little bit extra at the end of the video, showing what Yun can do against a poorly placed fireball in Ultra Street Fighter 4. Let us know your thoughts in the comments.

Thanks to JDinc and brokencapcom for sending this in.

Comments

Ryuyunjin said on May 16, 2014 at 7:54 a.m.

I'm looking forward to it been playing yun since he came out

#1
Alfiebo said on May 16, 2014 at 7:55 a.m.

And now edition select Yun is meaningless.

#2
Gotomaster said on May 16, 2014 at 7:57 a.m.

Ultra is going to be a very volatile game.

#3
EnglishKidChin said on May 16, 2014 at 7:57 a.m.

"Red Focus, helping characters with no combos since 2014...... "

#4
alphaxkp25 said on May 16, 2014 at 8:02 a.m.

quite a bit of usf4 yun footage from japanese arcade

#5
Necreon said on May 16, 2014 at 8:03 a.m.
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He still needs to be toned down, like in extreme levels, now more than ever.

#6
devilcuco said on May 16, 2014 at 8:05 a.m.

This can be done right now in v.2012 with super into reset with palm/shoulder into ultra.

Whats the point of the video?

I dont get it.

#7
Existent said on May 16, 2014 at 8:07 a.m.

What? No.

#8
Anon said on May 16, 2014 at 8:09 a.m.

To quote the comment in YouTube:

"While that is damaging, it requires full Super and Ultra meter to pull off, and involves a reset.

In 2012 Yun already was already able to go from mp into shoulder into genei jin into ultra, and finish off the ginei jin combo, and go for a reset. This really isn't all that different."

#9
ButterKnife said on May 16, 2014 at 8:12 a.m.

I don't get it. You need a full bar, to be near death (have full Ultra) and you need to land a mixup.

With those resources isn't every character dangerous?

#10
Shinkutatsumaki said on May 16, 2014 at 8:15 a.m.

^

#11
djm0001 said on May 16, 2014 at 8:16 a.m.

For people who don't get it, this video is to show off RED FOCUS tech for Yun. Something that other versions of Yun cannot do.

#12
TemoteJiku said on May 16, 2014 at 8:22 a.m.

"Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru"...Akuma: Nani?! Bakana!!! Ore no tsuyosa is over nin... UGYUOO?!!!UOOO PUWWAAHHpfuu...
Background song starts:
You wa Shock ai de sora ga ochitekuru
You wa Shock ore no mune ni ochitekuru...

Manly tears... <_>

#13
Books said on May 16, 2014 at 8:25 a.m.

Exactly. Sakura was a walking two-touch killer in AE 2012 without needing Ultra or four bars. Any good character with that many resources is dangerous. Yun is good, but he doesn't have the same OP approach tools as 2012 Sakura, Cammy, Fei or Akuma. And Yun barely does anything in the US tourney scene, dating back to AE, so I don't know why so many people complain about him outside of Japanese arcades.

#14
Blackoshinomi said on May 16, 2014 at 8:26 a.m.

yo eventhubs i think you guys are getting a trojan virus on this site! My computer keeps telling me this so i put my fire wall up because im getting nervous O.O

#15
gluemchen said on May 16, 2014 at 8:27 a.m.

this game.....

#16
MajinTenshinhan said on May 16, 2014 at 8:31 a.m.

Will make sure to look into it ASAP, thanks for alerting us.

#17
ShinzoBishamon said on May 16, 2014 at 8:39 a.m.

I don't think a lot of you don't understand why this red focus tech is good. First Yun has some of the best meter build in the game so getting a full super bar isn't a big problem for him. Second in terms of ultra a Yun player will never use a half bar ultra unless they know it'll kill so they'll usually end up with a full bar ultra in the round. Third the combo is a lot easier to do than a genei jin combo, its much harder to drop this combo. So basically with red focus Yun is given a very practical combo/mixup with very little execution needed.

#18
DunnDeal said on May 16, 2014 at 8:44 a.m.

F that combo. Where can I find both if those songs in the video tho?

#19
sarif2soon said on May 16, 2014 at 8:50 a.m.

I sent in two videos of PR Balrog showing off some RF [possible] tech with E. Ryu and Balrog. You should update the story with them.

#20
TemoteJiku said on May 16, 2014 at 8:58 a.m.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fist_of_...
First, watch Fist of the North Star, in original dub pref... And you get first...
Second? Just google melty blood...
If you don't know, about two goldogodlikeable things in a world...
You are already dead ^_^
But you can save yourself!

#21
djm0001 said on May 16, 2014 at 8:59 a.m.

this

#22
ninpuncho said on May 16, 2014 at 9:03 a.m.
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THIS GAME HAVE TO CHANGE.
TOO CROUCHING POSITION +SPECIAL.
IT IS NOT NORMAL.
THE CONCEPT OF BLOCKSTUN IS EXTREMLY STUPID .DELETE THIS.
IN REAL FIGHT A FIGHTER CAN FIGHT JUST AFTER BLOCKING.
BLOCK FIGHT BLOCK FIGHT ETC...
WHY WASTE TIME AFTER BLOCKING STUPID!!!!!!
THE SYSTEM HAVE TO CHANGE TO LOOK LIKE THE REAL .STANDING POSITION IS THE MOST IMPORTANT AND MAKE THE GAME MORE INTERESTING INSTEAD CROUCH LIGHT CROUCH LIGHT SPECIAL BORING.
EFFECTIVE AND FAST OVERHAED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
STAND +SPECIAL IS BETTER ,REAL DASH LIKE RUNNING
AND NO STUPID BLOCK STUN WHO LEAD BLOCKSTRING WHO LEAD LOSE.

#23
DunnDeal said on May 16, 2014 at 9:06 a.m.

Thanks Bruh!

#24
rosy said on May 16, 2014 at 9:09 a.m.

oh man, I miss hokuto no ken T_T

#25
Green016 said on May 16, 2014 at 9:13 a.m.

Red focus is just beyond stupid.

#26
Dracos_Wrath said on May 16, 2014 at 9:13 a.m.

Stop with the caps. And your comment doesn't make sense.

#27
ninpuncho said on May 16, 2014 at 9:14 a.m.
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BLOCKSTUN SHOULD EXIST FOR SPECIALS ONLY NO NORMALS.
WHEN YOU BLOCK A NORMAL YOU SHOULD STRIKE JUST AFTER.STUPID GAME.

#28
devilcuco said on May 16, 2014 at 9:16 a.m.

I don’t get all of this Yun cry nonsense around red focus. You should be more scared about chars that are balanced around not being able to hit confirm bnb into ultra. E.g. Bison, now he can do c.lk xx scissors red focus into full ultra1. This scares me, not Yun or Gen red focus combos that they can do right now with super anyway.

Or balrog new combos with red focus doing 590+ damage as PR rog demonstrated in another video.

#29
Littlegirl1994 said on May 16, 2014 at 9:16 a.m.

What did I say about this combo with redfocus and stun ? (Even for damage )
And people still think red focus is useless for yun because he already has geneijin lol

Anyway, i guess he will be nerf again ...

#30
anthonygamer said on May 16, 2014 at 9:17 a.m.

Nice impractical training mode combo.

#31
chowdizzle said on May 16, 2014 at 9:18 a.m.

Your suggestions suck and you have no idea what it is that makes SF a good game. You should just play a different fighting game if you want realism. Maybe Tekken or Fight Night.

#32
Xykes said on May 16, 2014 at 9:18 a.m.

Akuma has a lot of escape options for this. Don't quick rise. Quick rise and teleport in one of two directions. Don't quick rise, and teleport in one of two directions. Wakeup focus attack backdash. Block right.

This is no where near a guaranteed setup, and it costs lots of bar. It's useful, but I'm sure a lot of characters have red focus combos/setups that are beastly...including Akuma himself.

And, lol at all the people thinking USF4 barely changed anything. Red Focus, DWU, and Ultra Double make this a very different game. We're slowly starting to see that...

#33
OhYouDontSayThat said on May 16, 2014 at 9:20 a.m.

ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?!?!?!?!?!?!

#34
ninpuncho said on May 16, 2014 at 9:23 a.m.
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A NEW FIGHTING SYSTEM LIKE THE REAL YOU UNDERSTAN SMALL BRAIN

#35
jason24cf said on May 16, 2014 at 9:23 a.m.

You dealing this damage with 3 bars instead of 4.

#36
TemoteJiku said on May 16, 2014 at 9:23 a.m.

Yeah... I know that feel man <_> BUT!
From time to time, when i feel down... I just watch dat opening from Hokuto no Ken, and feel alive once again!
Dat Gen ultra 2! :з
It's not that deadly, like "Hokuto Hyakuretsu-ken" though...
<_>

#37
sarif2soon said on May 16, 2014 at 9:23 a.m.

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T EAT YOUR VEGETABLES.

#38
mnz said on May 16, 2014 at 9:26 a.m.

So you could never be stopped attacking, it would be the worst fighting game ever.

#39
Littlegirl1994 said on May 16, 2014 at 9:29 a.m.

Actually it's 4 bars with red focus and ex palm (or ex shoulder + red focus)

Red focus is great to do damage and also big stun (contrary to geneijin and 4 bars.. ) like the first combo = very useful and so easy to do this combo .

He is my main character and i know he is quite broken with red focus (even top player admit that) so just admit you too yun fanboy...

#40
metaf4 said on May 16, 2014 at 9:33 a.m.

But wait...what about all those guys in the last couple of posts who was riding the Hugo train.....Anybody wanna get on the Yun Express now? Don't worry, if you're not sure, there should be a Cammy post soon, and you can try to jump on that train later....geez.

People, it's safe to say that every character in this game will have broken and amazing setups to expose the new mechanics of Ultra...Just have a personality and some form of individuality and pick a character you WANT to use and STICK TO THEM, go in the lab and come up with some tech on your own. Tokido didn't find this stuff by osmosis...he sat in the lab and found this stuff on his own. Smug doesn't become a Dudley beast by living on YouTube and Eventhub posts...Stop jumping ship every time there's new posts of crazy setups and combo vids. Take from them, and think about your main and what you could or plan on doing with the new exposed tech..

Listen, as long as you have a target combo or ANY move you can focus cancel off of, ALL CHARACTERS can do a red focus crumple and go into Ultra, so get over it people and just wait for Ultra to come out and get in the lab!

#41
Dracos_Wrath said on May 16, 2014 at 9:36 a.m.

Well said.

#42
Littlegirl1994 said on May 16, 2014 at 9:38 a.m.

Wow nonsense.
You compare a reset and a combo ?

Wtf , try to be objective ...

#43
AlexNavarro said on May 16, 2014 at 9:44 a.m.

The benefit of this is the fact that, when compared to a genei jin, this puts you dangerously near stun. A basic yun combo after the stun will put most of the cast near death. Whether the reset lands or not you can continue pressure and go for stun.

#44
TheNewDragon said on May 16, 2014 at 9:45 a.m.

What is the theme of this song from? do anybody know?

#45
Sunforged_One said on May 16, 2014 at 9:50 a.m.

I still think that Red Focus LVL 1 crumble is a bit too much...

#46
BlackOnyxThunder said on May 16, 2014 at 9:57 a.m.

Dude, overdose yourself on chill-pills or something (that means calm... down).

#47
mauro said on May 16, 2014 at 9:59 a.m.

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#48
shadowhumane said on May 16, 2014 at 10 a.m.

thank you everybody just bandwagoon stuff they see jump to them easy i just play who i wanna learn or get good with them i don't rely on youtube or tourney stuff to make me better i train learn on my own

#49
ninpuncho said on May 16, 2014 at 10:02 a.m.
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I GUESS THAT NEW IDEAS DISTURB PLAYERS LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE AFRAID TO LOSE YOUR KNOWLEDGE IN A NEW SYSTEM OF FIGHTING.
STREET FIGHTER EXIST SINCE THIRTY YEARS APPROXIMATELY.
IT IS THE SAME THING.NOTHING HAVE CHANGED.
THE ONLY BEST VERSION IS STREET FIGHTER THIRD STRIKE WITH HIS PARRYING SYSTEM.
THE ONLY PROBLEM NOT ENOUGH ACCESSICLE.
DELETE THE BLOCKSTUN IS JUST A EASY PARRYING SYSTEM.
YOU KNOW NOTHING IN FIGHT.
WHEN SOMEONE HIT YOU AND YOU BLOCK YOU CAN ANSWER IMMEDIATELY AND YOU OPPONENT CAN DO THE SAME THING.
ATTACK BLOCK ATTACK BLOCK AVOID COUNTER!!!!!!!!!
WHERE IS THE AVOIDING SYSTEM?
THIS IS THIS SYSTEM WHO SHOULD GIVE MORE FRAME ADVANTAGE FOR COUNTERS.

#50
BlackOnyxThunder said on May 16, 2014 at 10:06 a.m.

I think this Yun tech is very interesting. Think about it! If Yun can do a combo with red-focus like the one seen above; then I'm sure other characters with a heavy mix-up/reset game can do something similar too (ibuki, abel, etc...).

#51
Links said on May 16, 2014 at 10:19 a.m.

If you want to play a game that allows you to immediately punish when blocking, play Smash. In that game, especially Brawl, there is little shield stun on many attacks, and you can do a grab when blocking to punish just about anything in range.

SF is good because it gives advantage to players who take the offensive, as long as they do it smartly. If someone's pressuring you and it's a block-fest, just Focus backdash or mash a reversal to get out of there.

#52
ninpuncho said on May 16, 2014 at 10:20 a.m.
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When I read you i fell you don't satisfy by Street fighter.
YOU TALK ABOUT TEKKEN AND FIGHT NIGHT TWO GOOD GAME.
BUT IT IS NOT STREET FIGHTING.
STREET FIGHTER V CAN BECOME THIS GAME WITH SPECIALS .
FIGHT IS FIGHT.
WHY SHOULD STREET FIGHTER BE DIFFERENT?
WHY NOT A REALISTIC STREET FIGHTER ON THE BASICS TECHNICS ONLY
SPECIALS ULTRA CAN STAY.
STREET FIGHTER MUST EVOLVE
AND THE BLOCKSTRING MUST BE BROKEN.

#53
Remondo02 said on May 16, 2014 at 10:21 a.m.

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#54
ninpuncho said on May 16, 2014 at 10:27 a.m.
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NO NO THAT IS THE PROBLEM YOU SAY A VERY VERY VERY GOOD THING!!!
SF GIVE THE ADVANTAGE FOR OFFENSE.
THERE IS NO PLACE FOR DEFENSIVE STYLES OR DIFFERENT STYLES OF FIGHTING.
YOU EXACTLY SUMMARIZE THE PROBLEM OF THIS GAME.
YOU GUESS YOU LIKE ATTACK BUT DEFENSE CAN BE COOL AND USEFULL AGAINST STRONG PLAYERS.

#55
thf24 said on May 16, 2014 at 10:30 a.m.

Nothing special. A lot of characters can do that kind of damage with a reset and both meters stocked.

#56
ninpuncho said on May 16, 2014 at 10:35 a.m.
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YOU ARE RIGHT FOR REVERSALS OR FOCUS ATTACK BUT A GOOD PLAYER CAN PUNISH WITH ULTRA YOUR REVERSAL .
AN EMPTY JUMP+ULTRA ARMOR BREAK CAN PUNISH STRONGLY YOUR FOCUS BACKDASH.
FOCUS ATTACK BLOCK ONE HIT ONLY.WEAK DEFENSIVE TOOL.

#57
ninpuncho said on May 16, 2014 at 10:38 a.m.
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FUNNY I LIKE.

#58
Seoul777 said on May 16, 2014 at 10:38 a.m.

Funny how BEFORE we all thought Yun would suck >.<*

#59
djm0001 said on May 16, 2014 at 10:41 a.m.

this Red Focus stuff is actually giving me faith that Balrog's U2 will have some solid use in this game.

Granted Balrog has one of the worst FA's in the game, if he can land a close poke -> EX R.FA -> U2, as soon as the opponent stands up from the Ultra they are basically 1-2 hits away from being dizzied, since Balrog's U2 does like 600 stun or something along those lines.

#60
MetalxHealthx said on May 16, 2014 at 10:44 a.m.

gross

#61
ninpuncho said on May 16, 2014 at 10:46 a.m.
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GIVE IDEAS FOR IMPROVEMENT OF THIS GAME INSTEAD GIVE YOU A PITYFUL STYLE.
YOU ARE NOT INTERESTING AND YOU KNOW THAT.
ONLY WEAK PEOPLE NEEDS STYLE.

#62
BallTapper said on May 16, 2014 at 10:47 a.m.

iirc the stun on balrogs U2 after a focus is super terribad

#63
tupo888 said on May 16, 2014 at 10:48 a.m.

Yun is fine

#64
Remondo02 said on May 16, 2014 at 10:58 a.m.

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#65
chowdizzle said on May 16, 2014 at 11:09 a.m.

By your suggestion, EVERY normal in the game would be punishable on block. Without any blockstun a cr.LP would be like -10 -15 on block. SF would become a game where all you do is pick characters with fast reversals and just DP punish every blocked normal.

I'm sorry, that sounds like an awful game. If SF isn't your style then play something else.

For the record I play just about every fighting game on the market and it's not that your idea scares me, it's that your idea is a terrible idea, plain and simple. I'm 100% positive if you made a fighting game it would be less popular than Skullgirls (which I love for the record).

Also this is my last response, you can't even formulate a proper sentence in english, you have a stupid rudimentary idea of what would make SF good as well as a clearly poor understanding of how to play the game in the first place. On top of it all you type in all caps and insult people that try to tell you they disagree.

I'm sorry sir but simply put you are a cancer in this community and I genuinely hope you dislike SF so much that you just leave the FGC entirely.

Good luck on your future endeavors.

#66
Makbaz said on May 16, 2014 at 11:16 a.m.

yun is a difficult match to akuma
keep in mind that you are wasting all your resources to deal that damage.

to have FULL ultra1 and all full super meter probably means you are losing the round, this is a great comeback option though

#67
djm0001 said on May 16, 2014 at 11:26 a.m.

I wouldn't doubt it - you're probably right, I just can't see any other use for it since it's so hard to land even with gimmicks. Considering they nerfed the damage on it, I'd need to imagine there was a scenario in USF4 where they found the AE2012 version of it to be too strong...somehow

#68
Littlegirl1994 said on May 16, 2014 at 11:28 a.m.

True for comeback option thanks to big stun yeah.
Add him his old dive kick like AE and he would be unstoppable haha.

#69
ShinzoBishamon said on May 16, 2014 at 11:34 a.m.

not necessarily, Yun builds meter extremely fast and you can focus attacks to build ultra meter

#70
Littlegirl1994 said on May 16, 2014 at 11:36 a.m.

1) absolutely not a problem for yun and build meter.
2) No. If after this combo (around 700-750 stun) you hit him with another combo then bye bye easily 1000 stun (Ryu etc)

3) And yet, you can say that for everything ( like geneijin ) since hard knockdown and safe jump are nerfed with delay wake up..

Ps : j aurais pu le dire en francais mais bon xD ...

#71
NoizyChild said on May 16, 2014 at 11:44 a.m.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8RPX...

You're welcome.

#72
Remondo02 said on May 16, 2014 at 11:49 a.m.

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#73
ShinzoBishamon said on May 16, 2014 at 11:50 a.m.

plus you don't need to use that specific mixup, just a mixup

#74
XeroDgX said on May 16, 2014 at 11:52 a.m.

Just to let you know how wrong are you, if i hit you with a push punch in the head and you block it you'll freeze as hell because of the hit, you won't be able to move instantly after blocking, that's a blockstun.......guess you have never fought in your life so it makes sense why you don't know that

NOW IN THE REAL TOPIC

This makes Yun too much more viable than before o.O

#75
Littlegirl1994 said on May 16, 2014 at 11:59 a.m.

Ok but what about other characters who doesn t have teleport ? (Akuma is not the only character in this game lol) morever yun has ambiguous cross up like cammy or seth so it s not that easy to block his moves

+ you can use this combo with 700 stun in a viable way when the opponents have already 300-400 stun = no reset just after this combo.

So according to you, it still useless (or not useful)?

#76
devilcuco said on May 16, 2014 at noon

Jason, you are wrong, he needs 4 bars, 3 rf and one for ex palm.

Right? He may recover half a bar with lp.shoulder hp.luge. at best.

#77
Remondo02 said on May 16, 2014 at noon

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#78
ShinzoBishamon said on May 16, 2014 at 12:03 p.m.

Yun can safe jump dp and os teleport

#79
Littlegirl1994 said on May 16, 2014 at 12:05 p.m.

Sure but how many characters have big stun combo with 0 or 1 ex bar like him thanks to his ex palm shoulder and heavy launch ? (That s why we saw him in eventhub right now)
Certainly not characters like Bison etc haha

#80
Anon said on May 16, 2014 at 12:06 p.m.

I dont think YOU get the subtext of the video, especially with the Tokido "quote" that is really just hearsay.

Lesser players will just see this and immediately think "yun with red focus mechanic = OP" as demonstrated by some of the first comments, which is bs.

#81
ShadowGeno said on May 16, 2014 at 12:06 p.m.

R.I.P. Ultra 2

#82
Littlegirl1994 said on May 16, 2014 at 12:08 p.m.

Yes os teleport with 2lk launch .

But about safe jump.. I mean there is delay wake up now (if you re talking about hard knockdown with genei or throw for example)

= useless now

#83
devilcuco said on May 16, 2014 at 12:09 p.m.

Im trying to be objective. And for your information, the combo in the video include a reset too. So yes I'm comparing a reset to a reset.

I don't over react to a video like you.

3 bars rf combos will without ultra will do 350 damage at best. Oni can do 300 without meter, or 450 with 2 bars hit confirming.

Rf on yun is a littel plus, but will not impact him add much as other chars. Time will tell

#84
Books said on May 16, 2014 at 12:12 p.m.

Yun is very strong, no question, but this particular combo isn't why. It's the fact that Red Focus gives him full screen Ultra utility in the first round. In AE2012, Yun was a second round character. Meaning, you had a high chance to win the second round because he was a different character with meter. Now, he has more of that power in the first round, and can use U2 more.

Thing is, other characters have not had their options fully explored yet, especially with Red Focus, so this is a lot of overreacting to Yun, especially coming from an arcade where the strongest Yun player plays. Yun is stronger, but it's way too early to tell if this makes him the best or "broken"(he's not broken, lmao, c'mon son).

#85
Littlegirl1994 said on May 16, 2014 at 12:15 p.m.

Is that you who asked some buffs for yun whereas he was already strong in AE 2012 ? If it s you then imo you re not objective

+ as i said before this combo can be really useful ( ok without reset then) if the opponents have already around 300-400 stun = stun = comeback option (with reset or not if there is too much damage reduce)

#86
djm0001 said on May 16, 2014 at 12:19 p.m.

I'm not sure I follow what you're trying to say I don't understand.

#87
devilcuco said on May 16, 2014 at 12:22 p.m.

If the oponent has 300 stun you will stun him with like 90% damage reduction losing 4 bars. Not a good decision.

If you look at daigo and kazu arcade matches with yun, you'll see that they are using rf only to finish rounds, to save a bar, because you are going to score a ko anyway. 90% of rounds.

#88
Books said on May 16, 2014 at 12:26 p.m.

Strong might be overstating it. Yun was pretty good, but Cammy and Seth were far more effective at his style in 2012, imo. Most people had him in the 10-15 ranking, but he had some bad matchups amongst the mid/lower tiers as well. He's very hard to balance, so small changes go a long way. If he had 950 health in AE2012, he might have been good enough to go through and entire major and win it. IMO, he didn't have enough defense to play safe, and didn't have enough offense to go nuts or justify choosing him over more explosive characters.

#89
Littlegirl1994 said on May 16, 2014 at 12:29 p.m.

You re right for daigo and kazunoko , it is probably more viable.

And yet, using the red focus like the first combo it could be nice for comeback (if there is not damage reduce after the stun yes, so the opponents should only have 0 to 250 stun instead i guess.. It will depend on the reset )

#90
ShindoSlash said on May 16, 2014 at 12:32 p.m.

I can't believe no one has mentioned this yet. This is not the same thing as Genei Jin, just with less execution needed as some are suggesting.

Most Supers don't deal any stun including this one. This alternate combo will. So that's another aspect that makes this a lot more useful then a Genei Jin.

#91
Littlegirl1994 said on May 16, 2014 at 12:35 p.m.

You didn t read me then.

At least , red focus is certainly not useless thanks to stun

#92
Xagni said on May 16, 2014 at 12:36 p.m.

And there it is...you should dropped the mic after your comment. Well said.

#93
yes4me said on May 16, 2014 at 12:37 p.m.

Hokuto no ken ftw

#94
Wedge said on May 16, 2014 at 12:44 p.m.

So for people that don't get it, this a hit confirmable combo that can land from a random footsie hit that does 725 stun and gives a mixup followup. Requires full super of course, but seems a very practical alternative to GJ given the possibility of a low scaled Stun it provides.

#95
Books said on May 16, 2014 at 12:50 p.m.

From SRK: "Timothy Ian McMillan d3v • 10 hours ago
Yang can do this as well (tested on USF4 PC mod - it replicates this video perfectly)

1. C.MK -> MP Palm -> EX Red Focus -> EX Palm -> HK rollkicks = 394 damage, 605 stun (389 damage from far MK)

2. j.mk (ambiguous setup after rollkicks) -> close MP -> c.mk -> MP Palm -> STUN -> j.hp -> Ultra 1 = 479dmg.

873 damage, which is actually more than Yun."

Again, let's see how much RF buffs the rest of the cast before we overreact to Yun.

#96
Ojidan_Boy said on May 16, 2014 at 12:54 p.m.

Tokido also said that Akuma is a lot weaker in usf4 and not as good as evil ryu. He added that it may be time for him to switch characters.

Somehow I doubt he'll stop playing Akuma, but we'll have to wait and see.

#97
Existent said on May 16, 2014 at 2:11 p.m.

This man makes sense.

#98
FADCTAUNT said on May 16, 2014 at 2:21 p.m.

Dudley can pretty much do this already, one combo > following high/low mixup = stun or death depending on character health.

Same with E.Ryu, though his mix up game is much weaker.

#99
urien said on May 16, 2014 at 4 p.m.

well red focus is a game changer ,thats for sure.
the question is to which character.
guess we gonna have to wait 19 days to find out.
One thing for sure zangief and other grappler will raise in the tier list.

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