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'Juri has one of the strongest Ultras, not used to its true potential' - PR Balrog on what characters he wants to play in Ultra SF4, and why

Posted by Nicholas 'MajinTenshinhan' Taylor • May 15, 2014 at 12:03 p.m. PDT

EG|PR Balrog is widely regarded as the best Balrog player in the world, and has achieved some truly incredible results with the character. Despite this, after his experience at Topanga World League, the player noted that there may be no future with the character.

In a recent post on his Evil Geniuses blog, PR Balrog lists four characters he's considering picking up in Ultra Street Fighter 4, but also noting that he's still going to be using his signature Balrog, as well. To start you off, here's a snippet about what he wrote regarding his first pick, Juri.

Juri's a character that not a lot of players know about very well. She can be one of the most annoying characters in the game because she has an unusual hitbox that not all combos work on, her zoning is somewhat above average, her air to air buttons are strong, and her Feng Shui Engine Ultra is in my opinion one of the strongest Ultras in the game and most Juri players don't use it at its full potential, but now in Ultra she gets some amazing changes that will make her a lot scarier on the ground and her reversal is now better.

Hit the jump to hear what EG|PR Balrog had to say about his other 3 picks.

Next, PR Balrog talked about Evil Ryu, who he's been noted for playing with quite a bit already in AE v2012.

While Evil Ryu is already a strong character in AE: 2012, the new changes to the system hurt him on the Okizeme side but increases the spacing/footsie traits of the character. When I saw the USF4 changes I said that characters with power and corner carry were going to be stronger than most of the cast and this is why Evil Ryu is one of my picks. He has the ability of taking 40%-50% of a C. Forward (Medium Kick) and if there is more meter to be spent then he basically takes you to the corner.

PR Balrog also expressed interest in Chun-Li, who a lot of people are keeping their eye on for the new version. On the first lady of fighting games, PR Balrog had this to say:

While I never thought Chun was a bad character, she was never a good one in AE: 2012. The character has every tool to be the best character in the game, but the changes made from SSF4 to AE basically destroyed her.

Now with the new changes to the system of the game make her a strong character since she lost so much to vortex characters. She also has her SSF4 anti-air back which is 3+short (Low Kick) with an already incredible ground game.

Over on the blog, EG|PR Balrog also notes what he thinks about Yang and the most notable changes for each character, as well as his reason for wanting new characters and why he's interested in these four. For the full scoop from PR Balrog himself, check out our source.

Source: PR Balrog's EG Blog.

Comments

ThaBigDaddyCMaster said on May 15, 2014 at 12:06 p.m.

That's a nice banner. Evil Ryu surrounded by girls.

Anyways good to see that he's still playing Balrog.

#1
Remondo02 said on May 15, 2014 at 12:14 p.m.

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#2
Oroku_Saki said on May 15, 2014 at 12:16 p.m.

Did you just call Yang a girl indirectly¿
Or is he being ignored¿
Juri's U1 is used to its full potential by most Juri players I know and play with. Lots of Engine Killers online as well.

#3
nebbiez said on May 15, 2014 at 12:20 p.m.

Dude just stick with Balrog. You're already the strongest tournament Balrog player in the world and are more than capable of winning majors with him. Look what happened when you decided Balrog sucked last time...you picked a top tier (Fei) and everything went down hill, so you reverted back to Balrog again. Skip that step this time and just keep on keeping on with that godlike Balrog play.

#4
ShinzoBishamon said on May 15, 2014 at 12:21 p.m.

He won a Major with Fei Long...

#5
Castigation said on May 15, 2014 at 12:22 p.m.

Better dream of Juri now before they revert all her changes. Oh, Capcom you silly goose..

#6
perfume said on May 15, 2014 at 12:23 p.m.

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#7
Dracos_Wrath said on May 15, 2014 at 12:28 p.m.

Poor Yang man...

#8
KillerSushi said on May 15, 2014 at 12:29 p.m.

Why is an MLG logo in the bottom right of the website?

That would explain all those totally *cough* unbiased *cough* articles about esports and how the scene needs them.

#9
Gotomaster said on May 15, 2014 at 12:34 p.m.

Not only that, but he essentially beat Infil in what was equivalent to a long set. 6 - 1, he really should stop downplaying Balrog, while he may not be the best character, he has all the tools he needs to win a match, especially in Ultra.

#10
aoi said on May 15, 2014 at 12:46 p.m.

He's still salty about Topanga, man, you were in Japan, their home turf , do you think you could've done better with other characters? Play Bochan again using Balrog when he visits the states, I bet the result would be very close one, I'd say the odds favours PRog, albeit slightly.

#11
Tensa said on May 15, 2014 at 12:54 p.m.

Yeah whats sup with the MLG logo EH, I support Esports btw just wanna know Lol

#12
Anon said on May 15, 2014 at 12:58 p.m.

When those other characters don't work out for him, he'll continue with Boxer as his main. Mark my words!

Some characters just fit peoples' play styles better and Boxer fits Eduardo's like a glove.

#13
RedRapperSux said on May 15, 2014 at 1:10 p.m.

Rog totally needs to push the ceiling on his current Rog play. Don't like seeing him play anything else.

#14
nebbiez said on May 15, 2014 at 1:12 p.m.

Like a...boxing glove? Ba-dum-tshhh

#15
star123us said on May 15, 2014 at 1:12 p.m.

Chun was not even mid tier in AE2012... And I agree that the changes from SSF4 to AE(not 2012) destroyed her everything.(with other chars' buff) She does have tools but most of them are not that good. Fireball? Worst one among other charging char(Deejay&Guile) Normals? not safe enough and usually countered by moves with invincible frame startups. Wakeup? Curse on dive kick!! Air-to-air? Due to her jump, bit hard to measure and punish. Armor breaking? SBK and EX Hazanshu?? Kara Throw? Does she even have Kara throw?(She moves very tiny bit) Most of all, she gets damage scaled pretty heavily. Using combo with normal lightning leg is possible when you cr.HP or CL.HK, so on... but very limited. Her patterns are quite predictable and her cross up is really unsafe, too.

#16
MRN_SirFoxington said on May 15, 2014 at 1:21 p.m.

Agree,Sir.

Many skilled japanese players who truly know how to play Juri.

Maybe we will see some of those Japanese Gentlemen at EVO this year.

#17
Kvothe said on May 15, 2014 at 1:25 p.m.

I more than agree with his decision to look for another main.

When you are the best in the world at a character and you still have to clutch your way through most rounds at high level play, then you know that character is limited and is not giving that player their best chance at winning.

IMO PR Balrog is one of if not the best clutch player in the world, and if you couple that with a character that has all of the tools and suits his play style (He did well with Fei sure, but that character doesn't suite him) you are going to see a truly scary player.

I don't think the reason he is switching is from his losses at Topanga, it's from what he learned about his character while in Japan, specifically why he isn't a popular character in Japan.

#18
savski said on May 15, 2014 at 1:29 p.m.

@ # I'm not going to argue with you about chun's weakness to oki and dive kicks, but you can't say that chun has bad normals or air to airs. St.mp, st.hp, cr.lk, and cr.hk are all very good normals that are very safe on block while j.hp, hp target combo gives a juggle state, nj.hk is a great air to air (but yes you have to react very fast), and she has an air throw. I don't really think she needs a Kara throw either because she has the fastest walk speed in the game (along with bison, akuma, yang, vega...). I am biased too because I main balrog and I hate the matchup with a passion haha. All I'm trying to say is that yes while chun has her glaring weak points, you can't complain and say that every option she has is bad. Ultra is going to do some great things for her with delayed wakeup too.

#19
LePerique said on May 15, 2014 at 1:38 p.m.

Dont listen to the ones who says: "Keep playing Balrog"...Damn! PR Rog is an amazing player, see him try and master a char like Juri will be awesome. Hopefully he will have enough courage to continue using her. Cant wait.

#20
perfume said on May 15, 2014 at 1:42 p.m.

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#21
JuriTheSpider said on May 15, 2014 at 1:44 p.m.

Juri will start to make top 8s. But it will only be by Juri specializers more than likely. She's not the type of character with any overpowered tools and you really have to work to win with her right now. I think she'll be like Ryu in this version. There will be a few people making little splashes here and there but only on person will push her to that next level like Daigo has done with Ryu

#22
ShinzoBishamon said on May 15, 2014 at 1:49 p.m.

Neither is Balrog, or E.Ryu or Chun

#23
RedRapperSux said on May 15, 2014 at 1:53 p.m.

It's not just that though... If he is going to do it... do it and stick with it. Don't give us a taste then go back to Rog. That is why I want him to stick with Rog and keep pushing the skill ceiling upwards.

#24
Ojidan_Boy said on May 15, 2014 at 1:58 p.m.

Based on eventhubs' on words, "copyrighted logos are generally something you don't include on publications without permission."

So, I'm guessing that eventhubs has worked out some kind of deal with MLG.

#25
star123us said on May 15, 2014 at 2:04 p.m.

Well, I might be too much about my opinions. I do know that she has good normals; however, she usually struggles to do the come backs. She is defensive char. Her HP target combo is okay but opponent already knows that you are in the air and use their own anti air to knock her down(or simply block or backdash.) If her active frames on air to ground moves are bit longer, she might not too worry about her jump at all. She has a fastest but still she does have to lose her charging while moving forward and moving backward only makes her to go corner. I thought Balrog is really good against Chun because he does have good health with high damage output(ESP ultra 1 combos). Normals are just normals and the moves that is safe on blocks are not even do enough damages. And most of all, people usually do not react her hazanshu. If you practice enough, you can even counter it by st.LP.

#26
ChumbleB said on May 15, 2014 at 2:07 p.m.

If I was a well-known character specialist, I would definitely downplay my character's viability with Capcom reverting so many changes right now. Just sayin'.

#27
saixhinata said on May 15, 2014 at 2:28 p.m.

Is juri your first pick becuase of our online Match Some time ago PR ROG?

#28
Red_Gambit said on May 15, 2014 at 2:38 p.m.

Depends who you ask, but the general consenus I've seen from reports on USFIV, is that Juri's gonna be upper-mid tier at worst, and A+ at best. Obviously its still early days and the tiers are gonna take a while to settle, but there's definitely the potential for us to see her make a much bigger impact in this version given that she's recieved almost nothing but buffs.

#29
Nightblade777 said on May 15, 2014 at 2:54 p.m.

I still don't get how so many idiots say that PR Rog went downhill when he played Fei. He won a major with the character after only a couple months of playing as him and was the only American to do so that I can recall. His Fei was and still is really good. Jeez, god forbid a top player wants to branch out and learn a new character, and then does well with said character.

#30
ChickenWingRecipe said on May 15, 2014 at 3:15 p.m.

Juri will be able pressure u pretty damn good no matter what Knockdown because of her advantage fireballs on block. I think newcomers tend to overlook how u can use her fireball for momentum to start an offense as well.

Her walk speed really hurts her game though. But she is certainly a character that benefits from DWU alot more than anyone else I THINK. So don't quote me on that.

#31
mrambitious said on May 15, 2014 at 3:46 p.m.

I agree. He's not bad with the other characters, but its really nothing special. He's been 'Rogin for years now, and is exceptionally good with balrog. Everytime I seen anyone else play rog I can see where they go wrong just because I've watched PR Rog's spot on play for so long.

No PR Juri, no PR Fei Long, PR ROG!

#32
mrambitious said on May 15, 2014 at 3:48 p.m.

DOWN WITH PR FEI LONG!

PR ROG!

#33
lh said on May 15, 2014 at 3:50 p.m.

Chun-Li was deliberately over-nerfed in AE 2011 to "encourage" her fans to buy SFIII-3$ online edition

#34
dorayaki said on May 15, 2014 at 3:50 p.m.

He won a major with FeiLong? A major with Daigo, Bonchan, Mago, Tokido, etc, in it?? Or you mean USA and the regulars that he usually beats with Balrog anyways? C'mon man.

The thing PRRog doesn't seem to consider is that not many people have experience against a hi level Balrog. That gives him a certain advantage sometimes. FeiLong, Ryu, etc.... not so much.

So he can choose to be the best competitive Rog out there, or just another 'X' great player. And the problem with the latter is that when you run into the better 'X' player, you LOSE free. So good luck.

#35
real_Onu_Gnizama said on May 15, 2014 at 3:53 p.m.

All these suppose to be pros are switching to different characters because their main don't have crazy buffs & nerfs...Smh. The game is about skills not who got the most add-ons to make you better.

The beats don't make the musician, the musician makes the beat stand out. Ya'll be giving these OVERRATED players such PR and Sanford all this hype for nothing. but they suppose to show gamers skills. Not one Professional gamer gave a good reason why they are switching their main.

The Only one that shows true skills in street fighter for AE 2012 is Mike Ross. He uses characters even if it doesn't fit his style and make it work

#36
ronedaddy said on May 15, 2014 at 4:03 p.m.

Y........you're kidding right? RIGHT?

#37
MN7 said on May 15, 2014 at 4:08 p.m.

Word.

#38
tupo888 said on May 15, 2014 at 4:32 p.m.

RIP PR LONG T_T

#39
Brolylegs said on May 15, 2014 at 4:49 p.m.

Chun does not have the SSF4 df.lk back. its better, but you need timing. Chun will be good, but not for PR Rog's style, imo

#40
perfume said on May 15, 2014 at 5:30 p.m.

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#41
madsoul242 said on May 15, 2014 at 5:35 p.m.

Always thought my girl was underrated no matter what ver.

#42
ChristianDMG said on May 15, 2014 at 5:46 p.m.

I bet Rog will still main Balrog anyway.

#43
Aluppoj said on May 15, 2014 at 5:53 p.m.

No doubt Chun is getting WAY better in ULTRA.

But where she falls on the tier sheet is going to largely depend on the rest of the cast. There are still 10-20 characters I feel still hold an advantage over her.

But that doesn't really matter to me. She's fun to play, and has some New tools. That's a big thumbs up for me.

#44
rakuko said on May 15, 2014 at 6:16 p.m.

hey, if Rog can push Juri FSE further, all the more to him. we've seen a lot of crazy stuff already with it, but if he's got something up his sleeve, i'm sure every Juri will wanna see it.

instant safe divekick is kinda new though so you can't just add that to the FSE mixup and claim best Juri lol.

#45
deus said on May 15, 2014 at 7:11 p.m.

always said that Juri is up there! she has always been good but people always make excuses about her being weak lol thanks PR Rog, i hope he brings the Juri Hype train to where it should be.

#46
Nightblade777 said on May 15, 2014 at 7:34 p.m.

What does that matter whether Daigo or those other guys were there? He won a major, enough said. There were plenty of top players that couldn't make it through Eduardo's Fei.

And top players have a lack of Balrog experience? Where have you been? Balrog has been a consistently played character since vanilla, and top players have been playing against PR Rog's Balrog for years. They are more than familiar with the matchup, which is why Eduardo felt like he needed to switch (he has trouble against Ricky and Justin's Rufus, but I guess no other top players have experience against Balrog right?). He said he will still play Balrog, and thus will remain the best Balrog player in the world, but why can't he also have other pocket characters to deal with unfavorable matchups? Last I checked other top players such as Momochi (Ken, Cody) and Mago (Fei, Sagat) play many characters at the top level.

#47
speeeedMEAT said on May 15, 2014 at 8:38 p.m.

Hell yeah I wanna see a top Juri! Go for it!

#48
jelaninoel said on May 15, 2014 at 8:52 p.m.

Imo juri's U1 is and always was the best ultra in the game. Completely safe. Can use at any time. Highest potential damage of any ultra and can build ultra while in use. What other ultra in the game can do all that, be used at 50% and still take down an entire life bar?

#49
Cascadian1106 said on May 15, 2014 at 9:05 p.m.

I hope you're not a Chun player to say this. The Chun-Boxer match-up has been one of Chun's easiest since Vanilla. Despite the nerfs she's received in every iteration, the approach to the match-up has remained the same. Zone, poke and anti-air. Throw all EX Punch attempts and save meter for Super punish. It's a pretty linear match-up with nothing but basic fundamentals required. The fact that Boxer cannot cross you up and is easy prey for Chun's df.HK also make this match one-sided. Either Ultra also works well against him but most prefer U2 since Chun has an OS with it on Balrog's wake-up.

#50
Sasuga said on May 16, 2014 at 1 a.m.

As if Boxer is.

#51
Kirin said on May 16, 2014 at 1:33 a.m.

Except you are fighting a turtle Balrog who does nothing except crouching at the corner, hit you once or twice during last seconds, and wait until time out.

Had met that kind of Balrog a few times online.

#52
Snorlaxin said on May 16, 2014 at 4:20 a.m.

I don't get your point.

#53
star123us said on May 16, 2014 at 5:01 a.m.

Maybe I played too much online matches... But the problem is when the trade happens. She does low damage with low health and the trade will be usually Boxer's favor.

#54
Cascadian1106 said on May 16, 2014 at 5:24 a.m.

You're doing something wrong then. A smart Boxer player wouldn't attempt to turtle unless he has the life-lead because he's the one who needs to get in and do damage. Chun can lame this match out as much as she wants even from a full screen away and it only gets lamer when she has a full stock of Super meter which is not hard to gain in this match-up by the way. Boxer has absolutely no safe move against Chun's Super except his jabs and shorts and he won't be doing any damage with those.

#55
Cascadian1106 said on May 16, 2014 at 5:33 a.m.

What trade are you talking about? If you're referring to her anti-airing Balrog with cr.HK and trading, it means you need to switch to st.HP. That's a much better anti-air in this match-up for any of Boxer's jump-in attacks. This won't be a problem in Ultra as df.LK should always be your go-to anti-air. You also need to know what kind of a Boxer your opponent is playing. If he likes to Turn-punch your fireballs, just neutral jump it and HK his head on your way down. You need to space your fireballs as well. You can't just spam them because you have them. By the way, you can also simply just throw all versions of Turn-punch on reaction just like all of his EX punch attacks.

#56
circio said on May 16, 2014 at 6:24 a.m.

Actually, he did so badly in Topanga because all of the other players had so much knowledge in the Balrog match up. He said he got grabbed out of his turn punches every time, and that American players don't do this yet. So sticking with Rog might only help him get easy wins.

#57
star123us said on May 16, 2014 at 6:55 a.m.

Any trade I guess? Counter on st.MP or cr.HK or anything. Well, like I mentioned, online match was causing me to have this kind of ideas. People I met usually do random stuffs which is totally unexpected and mostly they guessed my next moves and do their counters and I fell into that... :( Maybe that is the beauty of online matches. Anyway thx for the info.

#58
Sunforged_One said on May 16, 2014 at 10:07 a.m.

The problem with Juris U1 is, that you may fail using it.
For most Ultras you simply need to learn the setups. For Juris powerful U1 you need to learn setups and the Ultra itself as well. And even if you know what you need to do, you still have mindgames within the time of FSE.
I totally agree on FSE beeing one of the best Ultras in the game, but because of human mistakes it isn't as good as many people think. Even if your execution is 99%, the 100th game could be a match, that would have brought you in top 8, if you just didn't failed using her quite complicated Ultra.

#59
FADCTAUNT said on May 17, 2014 at 12:44 a.m.

No. Juri sucks.

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