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Targeting a single player, repeated self-destructs can get you banned from new Super Smash Bros., Nintendo releasing GameCube controller

Posted by Jonathan 'Catalyst' Grey • June 10, 2014 at 2 p.m. PDT

Targeting a single player over and over again or doing repeated self-destructs can be cause for a temporary ban in the new Super Smash Bros.

Nintendo released a list today which outlines some of the things that can get your account flagged down if you do them during online sessions.

- Not actively playing
- Targeting a single player
- Repeated self-destructs
- Dropping matches
- Modding or other cheating
- Inappropriate messaging

Also, Nintendo officially revealed their plans for a Super Smash Bros. Wii U controller bundle, which features a GameCube controller and an adapter.


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- The bundle that comes with the Smash Bros. Wii U game, an adapter and a controller costs $99.99 USD.
- The adapter on its own will cost $19.99 USD.
- A GameCube controller will be available for $29.99.

Smash Bros. Wii U is scheduled for release this holiday season, and all of these peripherals will be available on launch day.

The 3DS release of Super Smash Bros. will happen on Oct. 3, 2014.

Source: Smashbros.com and Polygon.

Comments

Baby_Astaroth said on June 10, 2014 at 2:03 p.m.

This is serious business.

#1
Topaz said on June 10, 2014 at 2:04 p.m.

Can we take this as some SLIGHT support for the hope that Nintendo is taking the competitive balancing of this game seriously, finally?

Either way, nice that the Gamecube controller, which I consider to be one of the best designed controllers ever, is being given new official life.

#2
CaryKokujin said on June 10, 2014 at 2:04 p.m.

"Targeting a single player". Hope that doesn't apply to Ranked 1v1 matches :P

#3
CaryKokujin said on June 10, 2014 at 2:07 p.m.

They've been giving a LOT of support for a more competitive Smash. Releasing gamecube controllers, removing random item draws (Peach, Dedede), no tripping, and a serious ranked mode that's 1v1 with no items on Final Destination.

#4
AniMoney said on June 10, 2014 at 2:10 p.m.

"The bundle that comes with Smash Bros. Wii U, the adapter and a controller will cost $99.99 USD."

wait what? Wii U console + game and extras for 99? Isn't the console much more than that?

#5
Catalyst said on June 10, 2014 at 2:12 p.m.

Smash Bros. Wii U = the game itself, not the console.

#6
CaryKokujin said on June 10, 2014 at 2:12 p.m.

That bundle doesn't include the Wii U, just the $60 game, $20 adapter, and a gamecube controller.

#7
Dracos_Wrath said on June 10, 2014 at 2:14 p.m.

"Smash Bros. Wii U", not "Smash Bros., Wii U".

#8
tentwelve said on June 10, 2014 at 2:16 p.m.

those first two

YO PARTY GAMES YO ULL

#9
MrPFloyd said on June 10, 2014 at 2:19 p.m.

Read what the article says, now read what you posted. It doesn't say it comes with the system at all.

#10
TheTHCGamer said on June 10, 2014 at 2:20 p.m.

That's some straight BS we should be able to play whatever way we want.

#11
HmpLghtng said on June 10, 2014 at 2:30 p.m.

Only targeting one person? What if he's the one that keeps winning?

#12
Link24 said on June 10, 2014 at 2:33 p.m.

LET THE FALSE REPORTING ENSUE

#13
Creeper said on June 10, 2014 at 2:38 p.m.

Just so everyone knows, the "targeting an individual" thing is referring to the "taunt parties" of Brawl which Sakurai specifically derided in a Q&A a while back. The tl;dr explanation is that people in free-for-alls would sit around and triple-team people just to troll, and this was half the matches you would find.

#14
King_Kazma said on June 10, 2014 at 2:39 p.m.

I don't really play a lot of Smash, but I would wonder what they mean by "not actively playing." A lot of, achem... newer fighting game players (read: scrubs) get angry at people who play defensively or zone. I could see a ton of those players reporting people who play a turtle style and accusing them of "not actively playing" because they don't respect or understand the tactic, so how is Nintendo actually going to monitor and regulate that? It's not like there are referees watching every match, and I don't know how much you can trust the players to referee themselves.

#15
kingofthesharks said on June 10, 2014 at 2:48 p.m.

Objection! I have a contradiction in this game's design!
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/A...

#16
Doopliss said on June 10, 2014 at 3:06 p.m.

The silly part is that the 3DS has a system that allows you to taget a single player.

EDIT: What #16 said.

#17
JiCi said on June 10, 2014 at 3:07 p.m.

"Targeting a single player"

Huh, that's gonna a little problematic, because in 4-player matches, you MIGHT end up attacking the same player over and over... without "willing" to attack another one.

#18
Cammystrike said on June 10, 2014 at 3:18 p.m.

After playing MK8 I have high hopes for a godlike netcode, they proved they can do it with that game.

#19
SmokeRulz said on June 10, 2014 at 3:20 p.m.

Ready for that bundle <3

#20
TheTHCGamer said on June 10, 2014 at 3:21 p.m.

Exactly but not only that I should be able to attack any person I want as much as I want. It's stupid stipulations like this why more players don't take this game serious. Also be prepared to have a lot of pissed off people claiming they weren't targeting a player. It's just like the whole jail feature that never works and ends up backfiring.

Why should it matter anyway it's not like Sakurai wants people to take smash competitive anyway.

#21
MightyAfro said on June 10, 2014 at 3:57 p.m.

hm... so does this mean we're getting a version that includes the Wii U as well? I'm waiting on getting one until I know if it's happening

#22
DrDevice said on June 10, 2014 at 3:58 p.m.

Yeah that targeting a single player ban is freaking retarded.

#23
xShonuffx said on June 10, 2014 at 4 p.m.

I think they are actually talking about situations where maybe every player would target one guy instead of the very guy who is near you. You know, trolls that might try to grief you or team up in non team modes.

#24
CrimsonRex said on June 10, 2014 at 4:02 p.m.

Sakurai, making me happy.

#25
Burnkickftl said on June 10, 2014 at 4:57 p.m.

ban for targeting a single player....

if i had any interest in online smash before hand, its literally all gone now.

i play games how i please , looking like this will be the last brawl.

#26
sdstig said on June 10, 2014 at 5:06 p.m.

That "targeting a single player" one seems kind of dumb. I'm assuming it doesn't apply to 1v1 matches but even then... I get what they're trying to do with it but there's so many situations where people just happen to attack the same person over and over again. They're always the closest one, they have the most lives left by far, etc. Even withy the repeated self-destructs one I can see problems. What if you're just really bad or are having a really off day and you just keep screwing up? Leading to accidental repeated self-destructs? Maybe that one's just me but that targeting a single player one could definitely cause problems.

#27
OhYouDontSayThat said on June 10, 2014 at 5:28 p.m.

I can't bully tweens online or else banned? ... ... ...
Meanwhile... in Marvel ...

#28
JuriTheSpider said on June 10, 2014 at 6:20 p.m.

Not sure exactly what they mean by target a single player. Does that mean constantly trying to 1v1 the same person or singling out one person in a free for all. They should clarify what they mean since that can be interpreted way too broadly

#29
chipndip said on June 10, 2014 at 7:50 p.m.

How about those dumb taunt parties that plagued the last installment.

#30
otakujin said on June 10, 2014 at 8:36 p.m.

I don't care. Me and my 2 partners are going to kick *insert guy* ass all night!

#31
TrueGamingGuru said on June 10, 2014 at 8:53 p.m.

@sdstig & JuriTheSpider

This target a single player has something to with free-for-all, and 1v1 shouldn't count. Where people tends to gain on one person just to troll, which the real problem is that it could be easily abused (when you have a report button) can cause confusion, or people will make false reports. Some of the rules should be more specific, and will have to explain on how its going to work.

#32
BunnyBoy said on June 10, 2014 at 9:59 p.m.

I think all that they're saying is "Don't be a troll". So long as you aren't actively trying to be a troll or grief others, then you should be fine.

.....I hope.

#33
AugustAPC said on June 10, 2014 at 11:20 p.m.

I hope they're lenient enough with the "target" a single player thing. It seems like if there's enough of a skill gap, then something like that could occur naturally.

#34
JIHADJOE said on June 10, 2014 at 11:53 p.m.

Smash Bros, "pick on someone your own size" / "no bullying" edition.

#35
Logos said on June 11, 2014 at 2:03 a.m.

As many people have been realizing, targeting the strongest player in a FFA and eliminating them is a viable and smart strategy. If you can seriously be banned for this then the online will be even worse than it currently appears. You can't even host private matches.

#36
GameMaster said on June 11, 2014 at 5:50 a.m.

Basically, Nintendo won't tolerate trolling or rage quitting.

GOOD.

#37
VengefulGiblets said on June 11, 2014 at 7:18 a.m.

Isn't this supposed to be kind of a fighting game? If you have weakened your opponent doesn't it make sense that you would target that person to win?

How do you troll by attacking someone in a fighting game? Smash seems like such a joke.

#38
ibLeo said on June 11, 2014 at 9:25 a.m.

"Targeting a single player" is left general so that Nintendo don't have their hands tied when enforcing the rules on griefers. Since the decision to ban will be up to Nintendo employees, they'll have enough discretion to ban players that are obviously griefing but let it slide when players are just following a strategy or avenging a knockout.

#39
TrueGamingGuru said on June 11, 2014 at 12:45 p.m.

What this targeting player means is that it has something to with free for all match (not counting 1v1, 2v2, or 1v3), where 3 players just focus on one player non-stop to the point where the one player would get brutalized, and they do to just to troll players. I know its a really flawed rule, and it can cause confusion or abuse.

#40
sduggie2t said on June 12, 2014 at 5:50 a.m.

"Targeting a single player"

Free-for-all modes will never be competitive due to collusion and king-making. This is an attempt to fix something that can't be fixed.

#41


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