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Excellent Adventures of Gootecks and Maximilian? Duo takes on the world in Street Fighter 3 Third Strike

Posted by Catalyst
October 28, 2013 at 7:30 p.m. PDT

Gootecks and Maximilian have teamed up to take on the world in Street Fighter 3 Third Strike.

This format should be instantly familiar to fans of Cross Counter, as the duo teams up for something very similar to Excellent Adventures.

Maximilian and Gootecks play a series of online ranked matches and banter back and forth about the sets, and it ends up being pretty awesome and entertaining. If you're a fan of Street Fighter 3 Third Strike, or Excellent Adventures, make sure you hit the jump to check this out.

Video from Maximilian. Tip from MugenLord.

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akillyz said on October 28, 2013 at 7:32 p.m.
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FIRST

#1
sarif2soon said on October 28, 2013 at 7:32 p.m.

Sulfur?

#2
HyperGadoken said on October 28, 2013 at 7:33 p.m.
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nope, Just no.

#3
Dbarcelona said on October 28, 2013 at 7:36 p.m.

Wheres mike ross??

#4
SummerUndercover said on October 28, 2013 at 7:38 p.m.

Yes, just... YES.

#5
shinwar said on October 28, 2013 at 7:39 p.m.

lol

#6
drez1210 said on October 28, 2013 at 7:53 p.m.

Thanks guys i needed that

#7
Gurpwnder said on October 28, 2013 at 7:54 p.m.

I'm not understanding why 3rd Strike unblockables are accepted by Gootecks and Max, but SF4's are so detested.

#8
Dbarcelona said on October 28, 2013 at 8 p.m.

Combofiend blew him up on VxG stream about this and he had no answer I guess he just likes the game more and should just say that,

#9
nooshy1 said on October 28, 2013 at 8:11 p.m.

...

It's just not the same. :(

#10
SoftShocks said on October 28, 2013 at 8:12 p.m.

Maximilian "Mike Ross" Christiansen

#11
sagejonathan said on October 28, 2013 at 8:25 p.m.

I approve.

#12
capra said on October 28, 2013 at 8:26 p.m.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqDVI7...

calling it now, tom will be the 5th ultra street fighter 4 character.

#13
Existent said on October 28, 2013 at 8:29 p.m.

That's true. Urien's unblockable is harder to parry than any SF4 "unblockable" is to block.

#14
oghaggard said on October 28, 2013 at 8:40 p.m.

To everyone who says GGPO is the best netcode, just like *inherently* the best, please watch a lot of laggy 3SOE vids full of teleportations and rollbacks to straighten yourself out... XD

#15
applesandwieners said on October 28, 2013 at 8:56 p.m.

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#16
perfume said on October 28, 2013 at 9:04 p.m.

I like how max and gootecks both sh*t on the game they suck at.

#17
Kelpocalypse said on October 28, 2013 at 9:09 p.m.

Because capcom can fix sf4 unblockables. Third Strike came in the era where there werent patches.

#18
gammabolt17 said on October 28, 2013 at 9:19 p.m.

Man, that Ibuki stage just give me these feelins...

#19
mustain21 said on October 28, 2013 at 9:21 p.m.

Is it just me, or is Max....serenading Gootecks just a little too much in this vid? "You were so great back in the day...you're one of 3 people in the world who can do that...". It was cringe inducing.

#20
SnakeX said on October 28, 2013 at 9:27 p.m.

Why? Gootecks WAS one of the best Uriens around back in the day. What, is Max supposed to just call him a washed up scrub now and nothing more, in order to appease the masses?

#21
Razberryclownsac said on October 28, 2013 at 9:27 p.m.

I thought this was entertaining. I'd like to see JR come on with Max and play some 3S. I love watching JRs stuff, but he doesn't do any sort of commentary with his videos.

#22
Eye_of_Orochi said on October 28, 2013 at 9:35 p.m.

Of course not, but let's give it a chance!

Hey I got the text box to work :)

#23
blaziner said on October 28, 2013 at 9:43 p.m.

love gootecks

goo is life

goo is power

goo is god

mike gootecks ross

#24
Aluppoj said on October 28, 2013 at 9:53 p.m.

These laggy conditions on the Super Internet known as XBOX Live?

Oh man, I didn't think that was possible (sarcasm).

Btw, I freaking love 3s, but Max & Goof sound like trash trying to snob dump on SF4. Train harder.

"Now we got Un-Block-ables son!", But SF4 is no good due to Un-Block-ables. Nice logic.

#25
cmlights said on October 28, 2013 at 9:53 p.m.

that was a very good hold down back

#26
mustain21 said on October 28, 2013 at 9:54 p.m.

You make it sound like it was necessary to keep doing that. My point was: once is enough. It almost felt like Gootecks himself was uncomfortable.

#27
Jason said on October 28, 2013 at 10:04 p.m.

Because even with all that, he's still only mid or high-mid tier and he's the only character in the game that has those unblockables.

SF4 unblockables are a systematic problem that exist in almost every matchup.

#28
Mike said on October 28, 2013 at 10:14 p.m.

He did have an answer. He said he doesn't have a problem with unblockables. There's just no flash with the SF4 unblockables like there is with the 3s unblockables.

#29
sergio_reyes_ said on October 28, 2013 at 10:20 p.m.

I enjoy a lot by watching this video

#30
TheTHCGamer said on October 28, 2013 at 10:39 p.m.

Not bad I like these two together its definitely keeping things fresh.

#31
DumbDLC said on October 28, 2013 at 11:02 p.m.

Looks ok but still want mike Ross and gootecks back together. Don't break up the band!!!

#32
EasyBucketz said on October 28, 2013 at 11:16 p.m.

Aren't SF4 unblockables due to a glitch (shifting of the character's center by holding a direction to block)? Seems appropriate to regard them differently from the scant few 3S unblockables that are out there.

#33
TickleMaster said on October 28, 2013 at 11:18 p.m.

cmon max of all ppl gootex? why not mike? also gootex i know u come here to eh come out of the closet

#34
Green016 said on October 29, 2013 at 12:02 a.m.
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Fifteen minutes of Max kissing Gootecks ass. That's all this was unfortunately.

#35
ymb9suigetsu said on October 29, 2013 at 12:35 a.m.
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I will not watch this. I cannot stand Maximilian

#36
Sasuga said on October 29, 2013 at 12:46 a.m.

Didn't see this coming! Great!

#37
Frankyzappa said on October 29, 2013 at 2:43 a.m.

This was one of the best internet surprises in a long time. I hope we get more from these two, 'cause god damn it shows how much they love SF3. And I do too!

#38
Kelshou said on October 29, 2013 at 4:13 a.m.

He's not the only character in the game. Oro also has unblockables.

#39
gutsygeek said on October 29, 2013 at 4:20 a.m.

Great and hilarious matches. Also, to address the unblockable issue, SF4 unblockables are super hard to get out of, if not nearly impossible for some characters. Poor Guile :(

In 3rd Strike, with Urien unblockables especially, there are a ton of escapes. You can do a reversal super, a reversal shoryuken, any other invincible move, grab your opponent if he's too near (keep in mind that grab ranges in 3rd strike are humongous), or just parry your way out. People think these escapes are difficult, but they're really not.

Been playing the game for 8 years now, and the unblockables, especially the Urien unblockables, all follow a specific pattern: Urien knocks you down, sets the Aegis reflector, and hops over you in some way. You can parry as soon as you stand, and then he has to do an overhead/low mixup to get the unblockable to hit. In a way, it's really more of a guess overhead/low mixup and parry, as opposed to an actual unblockable when you just die. As mentioned before, if he's too close and you know he's pressing a button, you can just super/reversal out of it.

#40
edrigo said on October 29, 2013 at 5:38 a.m.

Had alot of fun watching this. These guys are a good fit forgot how much they both love this game. Future series looks bright.

#41
Gotomaster said on October 29, 2013 at 5:46 a.m.

They're just joking. -_-

While they don't like Sf4 all that much, they appreciate it as a fighter and what it does for the community.

Seriously, all you people getting a little too sensitive over Goo and Max just having some fun need to chill a little.

#42
disp said on October 29, 2013 at 6:17 a.m.

Team MAXCPM

#43
SgtKonus said on October 29, 2013 at 6:36 a.m.

Only the FGC would hate someone for complimenting someone and creating videos about Fighting Games they actually enjoy.

#44
Jordouche said on October 29, 2013 at 6:41 a.m.

To address the unblockable comments,

Urien's unblockable is one of the few unblockables in 3S that can actually be applied regularly and is (fairly) easy to setup - although a lot of it depends on what your opponent does (your opponent actually has quite a few options...unlike in SFIV). The unblockable is CLEAR in the sense that it is a wall floating right behind you... attacking you from the back while Urien hits you from the front - it's easy to understand and see why it is unblockable, as it is going against the rules of blocking in Street Fighter.

The BS in SFIV is absolutely ridiculous spacing/jump crap that is visually very hard to see and understand without someone explaining. Your options aren't always clear and you normally have very little in way of options.

Lastly, Urien's Aegis acting the way it does is essentially what makes him a viable character. If you take this unblockable/mixup creator (really that's what it is) he DROPS in the tier list quite massively. in AE, it seems like the characters that are already strong seem to have the unblockables.

There is no double standard.

#45
TwoBears77 said on October 29, 2013 at 7:06 a.m.

Wow. Maximilian really hates SF4. And not just doesn't like, I mean really hates; a deep, seething, burning hatred that is always in the back of one's mind, evidenced by a 16 minute long video about 3rd Strike that, in the end, really isn't about 3rd Strike. Someone should tell him it is just a video game.

#46
DarknessFallz said on October 29, 2013 at 7:21 a.m.

This is "Excellent Adventures: Winning Edition" as opposed to when gooteks and Mike Ross would go 0-100

#47
JELIFISH19 said on October 29, 2013 at 7:33 a.m.

Yea but one of the funny things about SF4 unblockables is that a lot of things that are assumed to be unblockable aren't actually unblockable. If you watch a stream, the commentators will call a lot of things unblockable but they're really just super ambiguous setups. If you mess up an unblockable, you still have that ambiguous setup. Most people can't tell whether something is unblockable or not. The only way to know is if it was blocked and there are ways to block them anyway. Most of the setups have existed for years before unblockables. But it was discovered that they become unblockable if done on the right frame. People say everything that's ambiguous is unblockable these days. It's a much smaller problem than people make it out to be. USF4 may remove unblockables but the super ambiguous setups will remain and people will still get hit by them.

#48
slayereyez said on October 29, 2013 at 7:41 a.m.

im a need a gif of dem win faces that sh*t was funny as hell

#49
ManRightChea said on October 29, 2013 at 7:55 a.m.

To be honest, myself and many other long time 3S players feel that way. SF4 is seen as a huge step back in depth and complexity to many. The slow speed, relaxed inputs, low quality 3D models (in comparison to say TTT2's 3D models) etc.

Not only this but to many 3S is the last proper SF as it has tight execution and incredible 2D sprites. It is the reason the game looks good even to this day.

#50
TwoBears77 said on October 29, 2013 at 8 a.m.

At the same time, people like me consider the Alpha and SF3 series to be an aberration; a departure from the mechanics that made The World Warrior the phenomenon that it was. I hold the SF4 series as something great as it has restored a number of these mechanics.

But in the end, none of that really means anything. I like to think of myself mature enough to enjoy games without crapping all over the titles that others enjoy in a childish passive-aggressive fashion as we see in the aforementioned video. That's the point; maybe someday we can all be big enough to avoid this sort of thing.

#51
Tenchi_Sokaigen said on October 29, 2013 at 8:11 a.m.

I don´t like it, it got the smell of desperation. :/

#52
Gotomaster said on October 29, 2013 at 8:19 a.m.

Max has made it clear that he doesn't like Sf4, but respects it as a fighting game.

If you are so mature, you would be aware when someone is not being serious and is only having a fun time, with another person. Even if Max meant what he said, he wasn't directing anything to anyone.

#53
ManRightChea said on October 29, 2013 at 8:23 a.m.

disregard

#54
ManRightChea said on October 29, 2013 at 8:25 a.m.

While I can see why you say that in regards to Alpha and SF3, the game had to evolve. I don't believe the success of WW was due only to the game, but a combination of the game and the era. SF3 especially still maintains things such as high level footsies, however parry makes such things more dangerous if predictable, while fireballs and zoning are largely negated which is true. Some see this as stepping away from its roots, others see it as promoting faster gameplay while punishing excessive zoning.

However, I don't see what importance someone else's opinion holds in regards to whether you personally enjoy your game or not. Many old school titles such as 3S and CVS2 are held in high regard due to them being released before the era of constant nerf/buff etc. Established characters with established counters for each.

Considering the success of SF4, even if it is viewed as watered down to some, I don't see why whether the game is respected or not is seen as a detriment to your personal enjoyment.

#55
TwoBears77 said on October 29, 2013 at 9:11 a.m.

You're right, my opinion and your opinion are both meaningless in that regard. However for someone like Maximilian, who has put himself in the seat of spokesman of, promoter of, and advocate for the fighting game community, it is irresponsible to make such remarks. Building and promoting interest in fighting games by tearing down certain games within that genre is a poor way to go about things. And while you and I both may harbor such feelings, neither of us are in the position of being a mouthpiece for the "scene".

Not too long ago, during the whole collusion thing, Maximilian went on a tear about what the community should and should not be doing in order to grow. He was and is right. However, here he is not following his own advice. Make a Third Strike video series. Have a great time doing it. Talk about what an awesome game you think it is. But don't spend your time making thinly-veiled comments regarding the SF4 series. That is neither helpful nor appropriate for someone that has been saying that he wants to elevate the community by being positive.

#56
breveglieri said on October 29, 2013 at 9:13 a.m.

Look at us, we can't enjoy a game without bashing a far more popular game, we're like anime FGs fans.

#57
ManRightChea said on October 29, 2013 at 9:24 a.m.

While I understand and respect your viewpoint, imo it is a touchy situation. Does being in the spotlight of the community necessitate one to abandon their opinions? It is akin to how people will often ask you for your honest opinion, yet take offense when you state a negative aspect while only being blunt or truthful. I am not sure being in the position that Max is in requires that he wear a mask or hide his true opinions of things, perhaps more so considering he was not openly slanderous but just expressing a dislike.

#58
TwoBears77 said on October 29, 2013 at 9:40 a.m.

I also agree with you that he does not and should not have to abandon his personal views. After all, it is the essence of what this sort of YouTube programming is all about. It doesn't matter who you are talking about, whether it be Sips, Jesse Cox or Maximilian, you are getting opinion. That's what makes it enjoyable. I like all three of them. And Maximilian makes his views known, but in more positive ways.

His videos regarding the Ultra SF4 additions and characters selling fighting games are wonderful. While I may not share his views, they are expressed in a thoughtful and mature fashion. Compare it to this video, which is a whole lot darker and snarkier in tone. That's not who Max is, and not what he stands for (as dramatic as that sounds). I don't know it is because Gootecks, a much more sarcastic individual, is with him or what, but it was pretty out of character for him.

I didn't like it, so I figured I would say something about it. I don't think that Max will or should be concerned about my view on the matter. In the end, I suppose, it is all catharsis. It is what I was doing here. Maybe it is what he was doing too. In any case, I think more people around here should talk like you and I just did, and scream a whole lot less.

#59
2101RYU said on October 29, 2013 at 10:09 a.m.

"In any case, I think more people around here should talk like you and I just did, and scream a whole lot less."

agreed. thanks for that, you two.

#60
nebbiez said on October 29, 2013 at 11:10 a.m.

Yeah i blame the commentators. Things become memes after they've been said once or twice. So now i think they play up to it by accusing almost every ambiguous mixup of being unblockable. Even a lot of what are called unblockables by players who know what they're talking about are actually just fake crossups. Either it hits behind and lands in front, or hits in front and lands behind. This just tricks your opponent into blocking the 'wrong' direction. True unblockables cannot be blocked in either direction.

#61
GodPride said on October 29, 2013 at 11:25 a.m.

And here I thought in SF4, they weren't true unblockables but simply hard to block, but what do I know..

#62
Tryken said on October 29, 2013 at 12:43 p.m.

This is one of my dream match-ups having Gootecks and Max playing 3S together! I'd really love to watch them play a set against one another, too.

Also, 3S unblockables are annoying, but there's something about them that doesn't bother me as much... Maybe it's because when I fight Urien with my Dudley, it feels like a match-up where both characters are waiting for a chance to get into explosive damage and mix-ups. With that said, again, I still find unblockables in any game unnecessary and obnoxious, I just think in 3S they're somehow more forgivable, possibly because it's an older game.

#63
Ravellino said on October 29, 2013 at 1:15 p.m.

very funny

#64
capra said on October 29, 2013 at 2:57 p.m.

there is nothing wrong with unblockables in 3s because you can parry out of them, every character technically has unblockables in the form of air resets.

the way people reacting to the "hate on sf4" is ridiculous. they barely called the game out. and It has a lot to be called out on. a shame because it has potential to be an incredible game. 3s has problems but I'm amazed on how broken some of the core mechanics of sf4 are.

also fuk u eventscrubs you nazi commie satan worshipers for making me take out sh1t. watch your mouth my a$$

#still using adblock with noscript no money for jew

#65
Maximilian said on October 29, 2013 at 3:57 p.m.

Just to clarify guys, I have nothing personally against SF4. I played it for nearly 2 years straight between Aug 2008 to 2010. I just personally despise how it's evolved competitively. It's still an amazingly crafted game, and deserves all the respect for doing what it's done to the industry. But I feel the same way about 3rd Strike in higher level competition as well, it kind of falls apart, and me and Ryan briefly discuss this in episode 2.

#66
applesandwieners said on October 29, 2013 at 5:49 p.m.

(This user was banned.)

#67
LumberJasonTwo19 said on October 29, 2013 at 6:24 p.m.

Not used to Max cussing so casually

#68
AttractGroove said on October 29, 2013 at 6:45 p.m.

Yesssss! Finally, this duo should be "the duo."

#69
tokyobassist said on October 29, 2013 at 7:16 p.m.

I totally get where you are coming from Max. In general high level play in fighting games become hallow over time due to poor balance or mechanics. Even games like Tekken and Marvel fell into the trap of only having a handful of characters being competitively viable again.

#70
902PM said on October 29, 2013 at 11:15 p.m.

Because unblockables in 3s cost a whole bar and in most cases can be parried out of if you're good enough. Aegis unblockables also require you to land a hit, so they're very similar to any other confirmable super, just more versatile.

#71
Smorgasboard said on October 30, 2013 at 2:38 a.m.

@72
Imagine a world without Xian. People would still think that Gen is low tier.
Imagine a world without Infiltration. Akuma would have won only 1 AE major.
Imagine a world without Daigo. You would never see Ryu in top 8 of a major.
Imagine a world without Gamerbee. Justin wouldn't get blown up.

I think there are still many more left to discover in AE. Unfortunately, most top players tend to stick with one character. The only solution is to either get more new blood or for top players to switch mains.

Let's not forget the THawk tech that was discovered way after people thought the meta game won't change anymore.

#72
InsaneRikk said on October 30, 2013 at 4:59 a.m.

He actually did answer it on the VxG stream. He said that they look much cooler in 3rd Strike. :)

#73
SgtKonus said on October 30, 2013 at 7:01 a.m.

But people would rather complain about games getting stale rather than put in the time to beat people with these different characters.

#74
LemmingKueste03 said on October 30, 2013 at 7:29 a.m.

Chad Kroeger plays Street Fighter 3 TS?

#75
shekeib said on October 30, 2013 at 11:01 p.m.

it costs no meter in sf4

#76


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