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Likely PlayStation 3 USB peripherals will work on PlayStation 4 including FightSticks

Posted by SFilp • June 12, 2013 at 6:43 p.m. PDT
Likely PlayStation 3 USB peripherals will work on PlayStation 4 including FightSticks Patrick at GiantBomb recently sat down with Scott Rohde, Senior Vice President of product development at Sony's worldwide studio, to do a question and answer session about the PlayStation 4.

Tons of different topics are discussed including online passes, Sony's change to now charge for multiplayer, external hard drives and more.

In particular, it was asked if the PS3 USB peripherals such as FightSticks would work on the PlayStation 4. While Scott Rohde didn't know for sure he said "it is likely the PS3 peripherals will work on on PS4."

It was also asked if mouse and keyboard would will work on the PS4, Scott noted it was "somewhat likely." While this does not mean they could work with fighting games as with the PS3 you can use the keyboard to type. Many fighting game fans would love to be able to use a keyboard for different fighting games.

For the full interview head over to GiantBomb's podcast and have a listen.

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Comments

ShakeTheWorm said on June 12, 2013 at 6:45 p.m.

Wow, I'm seriously running out of excuses not to buy the PS4.

#1
Yoshimitsu said on June 12, 2013 at 6:47 p.m.

I wouldn't put my money down on "likely", but it's better than what Microsoft has planned out.

#2
Zephyrus said on June 12, 2013 at 6:47 p.m.

See, microsoft? This is how you treat your consumers.

Go home. You lost. Sell the Killer Instinct IP to anyone else that might put it to good use.

#3
Boobstown said on June 12, 2013 at 6:47 p.m.

Good News, I own 3 PS3 Sticks, would've really suck not being able to use them anymore.

#4
JumpMan33 said on June 12, 2013 at 6:47 p.m.

I think i heard that mike z said that ps3 usb fightsticks will still work on ps4. Just not the sixaxis ps3 controller.

#5
TheTHCGamer said on June 12, 2013 at 6:48 p.m.

Hey they still might not work but if that is the case im sure a company like inpin will release a PS3 to PS4 adapter that has no input latency.

#6
bonchon said on June 12, 2013 at 6:49 p.m.

Microsoft never said anything about if wired xbox 360 controllers/sticks will work on xbox one or not. It's very likely they will be compatible because if they work in Windows, they should also work in xbox one.

#7
gtfopanda said on June 12, 2013 at 6:51 p.m.

@ #7

Sorry but nope, 360 controllers won't work

http://www.gamespot.com/news/xbox-360...

#8
soggytoast said on June 12, 2013 at 6:53 p.m.

It will work... until one day Sony decides that it no longer should and they remove that feature.

#9
TheTHCGamer said on June 12, 2013 at 6:53 p.m.

Microsoft would never allow that to happen and yes im still going to buy both consoles.

#10
bonchon said on June 12, 2013 at 6:54 p.m.

#8 they were referring to wireless devices. You can find more information here - http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/ma...

#11
johnoftheuk said on June 12, 2013 at 6:56 p.m.

Please let this be true,

#12
Ermapume said on June 12, 2013 at 6:58 p.m.

It's a nice rumor but I'd really like definite confirmation on this.

#13
gtfopanda said on June 12, 2013 at 6:58 p.m.

@ #11

I don't see where in that article it says they'll work, just a guy saying "USB 3.0 is compatible with 2.0" and a "stay tuned" reply, err.

Just throwing out there, but given how sturdy japanese parts are, many wouldn't have any reason to buy a new arcade stick. Pretty sure both Microsoft and Madcatz wouldn't be happy with that.

#14
bonchon said on June 12, 2013 at 7 p.m.

That's what I said, they never confirmed or denied if wired (usb) controllers will work or not.

#15
Ittouryoudan said on June 12, 2013 at 7 p.m.

PS4; Come to me..

#16
gtfopanda said on June 12, 2013 at 7:01 p.m.

@ #15

Why wouldn't they confirm they work, if they actually do?

Best case scenario they're holding onto that card in case they have to do some damage control - which they do after E3, so fingers crossed.

#17
bonchon said on June 12, 2013 at 7:02 p.m.

Uhm because they don't know yet like Sony isn't confirming if they will work for PS4.

#18
Tensa said on June 12, 2013 at 7:04 p.m.

Sony listened about the no DRM/used games thing even though we don't know if they will let ps3 sticks work its best to ask https://twitter.com/yosp he does respond quite often

#19
TheTHCGamer said on June 12, 2013 at 7:04 p.m.

Im sure Microsoft wont allow for even wired 360 devices to be compatible with xbox one. For one madcatz is making a new stick for xbox one and im sure Microsoft wants to promote there own controllers. There not about to let people use wired xbox 360 controllers and theres a good chance that includes 3rd party/arcade sticks. Nothings been confirmed with the PS4 so it might also be the case for the PS4.

Once again though sonys consoles have a lot more in the way of controller adapters like the one I mentioned Inpin PS2 to PS3 controller adapters which let you play PS2 controllers on the PS3 without input latency. Now since the 360 isn't big in asia you see less of these type adapters being made for the 360. Besides Microsoft is very fickle when it comes to 3rd part accessories and usually they don't allow it for some time so they can make the money themselves.

For example you didn't see 3rd party developers releasing there own wireless adapters for some time which left you having to buy the Microsoft one. Microsoft is most likely going to want you to buy accessories made specifically for the xbox one.

#20
Focusflute said on June 12, 2013 at 7:08 p.m.

LOL in the history of all consoles, controllers have NEVER made it over to the next gen. How would they even work since some of the buttons r completely different. Don't hold ur breath guys. They r saying all they can to fill those pre orders. Getting an X1 and PS4 day one btw. Go Microsoft and Go Sony--we all win!

#21
Focusflute said on June 12, 2013 at 7:09 p.m.

I would love to be wrong about this btw ^

#22
EG2 said on June 12, 2013 at 7:09 p.m.

There is no technical reason why PS3 and 360 sticks should not work on their respective new systems. It's garbage if not, especially for the Xbox One since it's identical 1:1 mapping.

#23
Neoxon said on June 12, 2013 at 7:13 p.m.

@21

Gamecube controllers carried over to the Wii, & Wii controllers carried over to the Wii U

And, correct me if I'm wrong, PS1 controllers carried over to PS2.

#24
gtfopanda said on June 12, 2013 at 7:15 p.m.

@ #18

That's convenient, you know.

Yet still, they went out and said wireless controller wouldn't work, so it's shady at best. At least that Sony rep gave us something.

Not really holding my breath here, and I only own a 360 TE.

@ #21

Where exactly do "we all win" here, if our perfectly functioning sticks won't work?

Stop defending these anti-customer practices!

#25
TheTHCGamer said on June 12, 2013 at 7:15 p.m.

@23 Your right but they wont because console developers don't want people to buy cheaper ways to play there games. They want you to buy there new controllers and not use old ones. Im sure arcade stick developers want people to buy there new arcade sticks so they don't have a problem with this. Its a business you people need to understand that but as I stated just buy an adapter which im sure will be released.

#26
sagejonathan said on June 12, 2013 at 7:19 p.m.

One more reason why the PS4 is completely superior to XOne.

#27
MrQ said on June 12, 2013 at 7:20 p.m.

This is the best news ever, although I think i'll try to get both systems eventually, KI3 is enough reason, although I still need to plan how i'll steal all that amount of money for getting both fml.

#28
TheTHCGamer said on June 12, 2013 at 7:21 p.m.

@24 The Wii was essentially a wireless gamecube but Nintendo also makes it a point to keep selling there older accessories for there best selling games like smash bros. Microsoft and Sony aren't that way which is why PS3 controllers couldn't be played on PS3. Same thing with xbox controllers not being able to play on the 360.

Think about it this way after this gen console developers realized if they wanted to make more of a profit they needed to cut out backwards compatibility for games. That way they could force you to buy digital versions of the same games you already owned. Sony might have let you play PS1 controllers on PS2 but that wasn't the case anymore after the PS3 was released.

#29
cliffeside said on June 12, 2013 at 7:26 p.m.

i've said it before, PS3 uses standard USB drivers. it's HIGHLY unlikely sony will deviate from that especially when this console was designed to be more friendly for devs and consumers.

also the DRM isn't placed on the PS4 itself, but just like the PS3 and 360, the developers have the choice to manually create a system to lock content on THEIR games. so if you ever see online passes (which you most likely will from fgts like EA) it's up to devs/publishers.

#30
EastLDN said on June 12, 2013 at 7:27 p.m.
#31
Kingpin_of_Snow said on June 12, 2013 at 7:28 p.m.

@21. PS1 controllers work on PS2. It's not a yes or no if current gen fight sticks will work on the PS4. Even if they do, no fighting games are announced yet for the PS4. All we can dois wait & see. So hold on to your current generation console. Still buying both. If it's possible to plug in that stick on the PS4 then Sony's doing something right.

#32
TheTHCGamer said on June 12, 2013 at 7:30 p.m.

I guarantee you that all if not most games that have online play will require you to have an online pass next gen. Still being FORCED to buy a new game isn't good since your taking away options that gamers should have.

#33
Boobstown said on June 12, 2013 at 7:35 p.m.

Microsoft defense force in full effect.

Its 99% likely USB Fightsticks and Headsets will work on PS4.

#34
hey said on June 12, 2013 at 7:40 p.m.

PS3 had probably the best controller setup ever, allowing normal hid-compliant usb input devices. That along with upgradable harddrives shows that they're making an effort to make the system as open and user friendly as they can. And it seems like this is all carrying over to the PS4 as well, so I too would expect them to work on PS4.

Madcatz won't worry too much, they're making a great upgraded model that people will look at regardless.

BTW 360 controllers use unique 360 keys, making it impossible to use anything on them that isn't specifically made for 360. Unless you're a licensee, you can only create 360 compatible devices by sacrificing another 360 controller. This is clearly a business move and I'd certainly imagine the same thing will happen on Xbone.

Also I have no idea why people are saying "PS4 has no fighting games, Xbox has KI!!" NOTHING IS ANNOUNCED YET. No one will actually care about KI and you know any relevant fighting games will be out on both regardless.

#35
TheTHCGamer said on June 12, 2013 at 7:42 p.m.

@34 How are you 99% sure? I think arcade stick developers would also want you to buy new next gen sticks. Don't be shocked if both consoles don't allow you to use this gens wired controllers. I buy all my fighting games on the PS3 but don't be naïve these console developers want you to be there new accessories.

#36
tbogard said on June 12, 2013 at 7:43 p.m.

Microsoft, you are really in deep s**t...

#37
EmJaY said on June 12, 2013 at 7:49 p.m.

This might explain why madcatz has only announced a new stick for 360. There will probably be a stick for the ps4 eventually but if this is the case its certainly not needed. More great news for Sony!

#38
H3XxMAjiN said on June 12, 2013 at 7:50 p.m.

i cant for for the life of me understand why would anyone buy both systems. it doesnt make you any more of gamer. it the just shows that you like throwing money away. apart from the consumer friendly practices that sony is portraying, both systems are pretty similar.

the real question is wat system evo and major tourneys support. from the looks of it, ps4 makes more sense for the fgc because of sheer convenience.

#39
JELIFISH19 said on June 12, 2013 at 7:58 p.m.

I love when new Sony systems come out. They literally run on pipe dreams. When PS3 came out, people were talking about the potential of the cell processor. Now all the talk about is the possibility of no DRM and the possibility that your old USB peripherals will work. Nothing has been confirmed yet. If you're really a gamer, you would let the games speak for themselves. It's funny how most people are saying that One has better games but PS4 has a better policy but Sony just said their own games won't have DRM. There's nothing stopping other publishers from putting it in. People are just hoping the publishers chose not to.

#40
ForTheViolence said on June 12, 2013 at 8:05 p.m.

@40 or people just want to play first party games available on the other console. It's pretty simple to understand.

#41
Boobstown said on June 12, 2013 at 8:07 p.m.

@37 because the Senior Vice President of product development said so, twice.

#42
ZenTzen said on June 12, 2013 at 8:13 p.m.

@41
but it is confirmed, sony already stated their not gonna do anything like that and even freaking EA is now saying how the DRM was the worst thing they did, freaking EA

you can be in denial all you want but its clear what the better console is, and if you want to throw exclusives, if anything the sony 1st party games are for the most part better than MS, Titanfall developers already said that a ps4 version is a possibility and i dont think dead rising is gonna stay an exclusive for Xbone that long

#43
TheTHCGamer said on June 12, 2013 at 8:17 p.m.

@44 guess what the 360 and ps3 were backwards compatible at first. Lets wait for some actual confirmation because I have a feeling this might change. Madcatz and other stick developers will also want us to buy sticks for the next gen.

#44
xShonuffx said on June 12, 2013 at 8:33 p.m.

Hope it does work. I see no reason why it shouldn't. Maybe the PC versions might. Just a guess.

#45
JesseRobles said on June 12, 2013 at 8:38 p.m.

Z-NAP!

#46
Dbarcelona said on June 12, 2013 at 8:44 p.m.

@47 same here it's no hate on Microsoft or anything it's just that after buying a new console the last thing you wanna do is buy a $100+ peripheral instead of buying a game.Clear choice for me is to buy a PS4 but if I had the money I would buy an x1 but I don't.

#47
musacci said on June 12, 2013 at 9:11 p.m.

(This user was banned.)

#48
JumpMan33 said on June 12, 2013 at 9:12 p.m.

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/pr...

"accessories made for Xbox 360 or original Xbox will not work with Xbox One"

#49
JELIFISH19 said on June 12, 2013 at 9:12 p.m.

@45 Sony as a publisher said that won't implement it. But DRM is ultimately to the publishers. If they see they're making more money on new One games, they won't hesitate to put DRM in PS4 games. And it will likely be more harsh than One's if they really want to force people to buy the game new since the DRM isn't naturally in PS4's infrastructure. They know gamers aren't going to stop playing games just because of DRM, especially if there are no alternatives. But I personally trust the console-maker to make sure my games always work more than the publisher. We don't know the actual landscape of next-gen DRM. All we know is MS is in control of One's and Sony is placing PS4's onto the publishers. The only thing that's been confirmed is that Sony studios won't use DRM. We don't know anything beyond that and people are seeing lack of information as a sign of what's to come. If all of the publisher said they won't use DRM on PS4, then that's a confirmation. But none have outright said anything about how they'll use or not use DRM in the future. Even EA hasn't really said anything about next-gen.

#50
Kuvio said on June 12, 2013 at 9:16 p.m.

I hope this is true! Buying a new console is already an expensive endeavor.

#51
LK said on June 12, 2013 at 9:41 p.m.

@52

It's PR suicide if third-party publishers decide to implement DRM on a console that explicitly stated that DRM is not required. It doesn't take a cave man to figure that out.

If publishers want to do DRM, they'll be more than happy to side with Xbox One. The real question I have to ask is, which side are you on?

#52
BoozerX said on June 12, 2013 at 10:06 p.m.

(This user was banned.)

#53
Erichful said on June 12, 2013 at 10:19 p.m.

Yay! Smooth transition

#54
TheDeadTexan said on June 12, 2013 at 11:09 p.m.

Xboner died a violent death at E3.

Now Sony's just peeing in the open grave.

#55
vladgd said on June 12, 2013 at 11:09 p.m.

All the ps4 needs now is a fighting game.

#56
noob_blasta said on June 12, 2013 at 11:46 p.m.

If this turns out to be true then ps are smashing Xbox again. Not only is it cheaper but fight sticks are hardly cheap to replace. Promising stuff

#57
JustSTFU said on June 13, 2013 at midnight

I hope it works, but arcade stick makers will still put out USB 3.0 sticks though.

The problems is that which ever sleazy stick maker might make USB 2.0 sticks and branding it a PS4 stick, that's where I have the problem.

Also read somewhere that not all online multi-player games will be forced to use PS+ and it's up to the developers. Fighting games definitely doesn't even need a server to even do matching up, and P2P definitely DOES NOT require a server nor does a server help any of the lag between a P2P game unlike what the 360 loyalists got tricked into believing in for this gen. So, here's hoping future fighting games won't require PS+ to play online. PS+ is great w/ bonuses and all, but just make those bonuses appealing enough for people to get alone, and don't charge people for service that is not required for the game being played.

#58
Santaclaus said on June 13, 2013 at 12:18 a.m.

Everyone hates the XboxOne !!!

I don't get it....it's only going to cost $500 + $60 for the extra controller + $70 for each video game + $10 fee for used games + $60 for xbox live (a year!!) + all the time connection required + $ to get each character for Killer instinct.

How could anyone hate that console?? come on people!!

seriously though this is ANOTHER blow from Sony. I hope the piece of fecal matter from Microsoft will die horribly for their violation of our rights!

The best place to be as a gamer who wants to keep private life private? PS4!

no restrictions on lending? check
no restrictions on selling? check
no restrictions on used games? check
cheaper? check
more powerful? check
better looking? check
no DRM crap? check
Great games? check
Free PS+ games at launch? check
can be turned offline? check
Region Free? check
Upgradeable hard disk? check
No 24 hour restriction? check
no mandatory camera? check
no extra charge for netflix? check

X1 is violating our rights and it sucks that we cant play Killer Instinct if we dont get an X1 but now is the time where we have to speak with our wallets. it sucks that we miss out on a few good things like KI now but we will make it better for ourselves in the future.

#59
Chrisuchiwa said on June 13, 2013 at 12:50 a.m.

@61, you said it all guy, you said it all!
I want to add..... nothing! You just said it all.

#60
gentlestrength said on June 13, 2013 at 12:50 a.m.

Sony just kicking ass. Really, awesome.

#61
Jevali said on June 13, 2013 at 1:11 a.m.

It may be possible. But you know madcatz will want to put out new hardware. I'm not sure if their relationship with publishers is strong enough to drop ps3 compatibility.

I'm sure xbone could support old sticks also, but they've already shown that their going with new ones.

#62
JELIFISH19 said on June 13, 2013 at 1:36 a.m.

@52 It's not PR suicide. Online passes weren't PR suicide and stricter DRM won't be either. If someone wants GTA6, they're not going to miss out on it just because or DRM. People will get over it just like they'll get over their issues with One. DRM is everywhere already. Many forms of physical media such as music and movies have shifted to digital anyway. Sony has been in the forefront of that in videogames. A lot of PS3 games are available digitally at the same time as they are on the retail market. And Vita was primarily marketed as a digital based system. Next-gen is switching from physical to digital. Current-gen isn't opposed to digital when you look at DLC and downloadable games. And those have DRM. I think people are just overreacting because they're only looking at DRM instead of what next-gen gaming is. A Bluray drive is too slow to play a lot of games. That's why most PS3 games need to be installed. Next-gen games will just completely run from the HDD and One just admits that it's a digital console.

And I'm not on either side. Nothing I've seen impressed. Next gen is looking like old ideas with prettier graphics and more online integration. The overall best looking games shown were PS3 games.

#63
Sasuga said on June 13, 2013 at 1:52 a.m.

Damn you Sony! I was looking for an excuse to buy a new fightstick!!

/jk. Good sh!t, Sony. Good sh!t.

Too bad for KI.

#64
tktktk43 said on June 13, 2013 at 2:08 a.m.

Xbo looks hideous. It's looks like an old vcr box. That alone makes me not want one. Add all the extra bs and you have an ugly pile of crap that costs half a grand. Uhh... No thank you. Fight sticks should work. If not I hope an adapter comes out.

#65
Gameplan said on June 13, 2013 at 2:31 a.m.

@42 I saw that live and I was like daaaamn, I just couldn't believe their level of arrogance. They're basically saying the consumer: "F*ck you, we don't care, deal with it". Unbelievable.

#66
KillerSushi said on June 13, 2013 at 3:26 a.m.

@7 - the game environment on the Xbox1 doesn't use the Windows kernel, so that's not guaranteed.

The only thing that's Windows is the crappy TV environment.

#67
zUkUu said on June 13, 2013 at 3:41 a.m.

I've sent this in 2 or 3 days ago. You're slow flip. :p

#68
Mufasa3151 said on June 13, 2013 at 3:58 a.m.

Nice!!!!

#69
leahcim_1v1s said on June 13, 2013 at 4 a.m.

Even Unlicensed products like the Qanba?

#70
TCal said on June 13, 2013 at 6:33 a.m.

If so, great

#71
SeMi_AuTo said on June 13, 2013 at 6:43 a.m.

I hope this is true. My Hori Fighting Edge is my favorite stick. If I don't have to get another one that would be great. I would buy it again if I had to. I like it that much.......

#72
alfarin said on June 13, 2013 at 6:50 a.m.

Will this be true with PS360+ PCBs and the Quanba Q4RAF? Hoping it is, I can see the PS360+ getting a firmware update to cover at the very least

#73
daisetsu said on June 13, 2013 at 7:38 a.m.

one thing confuses me... on the arcade cabinet setup that they were using for Killer instinct, the joysticks they were using looked like some 360 sticks.. not the TE2 sticks. maybe USB controllers today are compatible for next gen indeed?

#74
LK said on June 13, 2013 at 7:50 a.m.

I'm pretty sure MadCatz will roll out their new PS4 sticks.

#75
MentalFloss said on June 13, 2013 at 8:35 a.m.

@37 Yes they want you to buy their next gen sticks, but they also want you to buy the plethora of models they already manufacture currently which they will be stuck with once the next gen consoles become mainstream, and cost nothing in new development costs as they are already produced.

#76
wBENDERw said on June 13, 2013 at 10:42 a.m.

@77 but the fgc got no money so this is great news

#77
BlankaBeast said on June 13, 2013 at 11:59 a.m.

TAKE NOTES MICROSOFT

#78
LK said on June 13, 2013 at 4:46 p.m.

@80

The only note M$ is taking are bank notes. Getting paid, getting paid.

#79
Crash40 said on June 14, 2013 at 8:33 a.m.

I REALLY hope PS3 sticks work... I JUST bought one... ._.

#80
8589brian said on July 4, 2013 at 10:29 a.m.

Good point about using a keyboard to play fighting games....many years ago I had an 8 bit computer (Amstrad cpc, look it up they are antiques these days) and all I had was a keyboard and I used that to play the best fighting game of it's time (barbarian) and it worked very well for the game.

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