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Xian featured in major Singapore newspaper, won more than $5,500 for SSF4 AE v2012 at EVO 2013

Posted by Jonathan 'Catalyst' Grey • July 28, 2013 at 9:25 p.m. PDT
After DM|Xian's win at EVO 2013 in Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition v2012, The Straits Times, a major newspaper in Singapore, ran a piece on the 22-year-old fighting game community star.

Xian stated that he won over $5,500 USD for the SSF4 AE v2012 tournament at this year's EVO, which isn't too shabby of a pay check to return home with.

The Straits Times has a daily circulation of 389,700 people. To put that in perspective, it's on par with newspapers like the Houston Chronicle, Newsday and the Chicago Tribune — all of which are in the top 15 in daily circulation in the United States.

It's really cool to see someone who's been so incredibly active and such a great part of our community get a big feature in a major publication. From his humble beginnings in the FGC to co-hosting various Cross Counter Asia programs with Zhi, Xian has become one of the most popular players in our community, and it's wonderful to see him getting some attention outside of our scene.

Here's a shot of the newspaper article snapped by Zhi via Twitter. Also, you can hit the jump for a video interview with Xian, posted by The Straits Times.


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Video from Razor.tv.

Comments

takeo007 said on July 28, 2013 at 9:27 p.m.

Good ups to the EVO champ~~

#1
SeoDRIFT said on July 28, 2013 at 9:28 p.m.

He's only 22?!?! Damn I need to win a Evo soon!! #KAPPA!!

#2
Deathpath said on July 28, 2013 at 9:29 p.m.

Not a flattering picture LOL.

#3
Gam3freak99 said on July 28, 2013 at 9:30 p.m.

That's a very unflattering picture of him, they should've used one where he had his Iori hair. But that's really cool to be recognized by society.

#4
IAMSKINJA said on July 28, 2013 at 9:38 p.m.

oh god that picture.

#5
Devdan said on July 28, 2013 at 9:46 p.m.

"Slugs on"? I don't think that's a phrase.

#6
ZOMBIEMEGAMAN said on July 28, 2013 at 9:46 p.m.

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#7
Graphf said on July 28, 2013 at 9:47 p.m.

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#8
Sadistt said on July 28, 2013 at 9:52 p.m.

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#9
sgfighter said on July 28, 2013 at 9:56 p.m.

@Eventhubs, $7,000 is in Singapore dollars. Its about $5,760 in US dollars

#10
ONG_BAK_SAGAT said on July 28, 2013 at 9:57 p.m.

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#11
Virtua_Kazama said on July 28, 2013 at 9:57 p.m.

Damn, I didn't know he and I are the same age. Good on him!

#12
Loryuo said on July 28, 2013 at 10:06 p.m.

That's small change money for something like EVO. =/. Poor dude.

#13
2Future4U said on July 28, 2013 at 10:09 p.m.

doesn't make sense..how does the top fighting game in the world with almost 2k entrants only offer 1st place a measly 7k???? wtf..i smell SRK illuminati caking off of this nicely

#14
Catalyst said on July 28, 2013 at 10:17 p.m.

@sgfighter

Thanks, I wasn't sure. Let me update the story.

#15
Aluppoj said on July 28, 2013 at 10:19 p.m.

7k for two days work (playing games) in Vegas. Nice.

Congrats Xian.

#16
Razberryclownsac said on July 28, 2013 at 10:23 p.m.

7k isn't bad for a weekend, but I still thought he won more than that. Oh well

#17
cactrotofrbc said on July 28, 2013 at 10:24 p.m.

Put that money towards an education and your future, son!

The next time your face will be in the newspaper, it will be in the Business section.

#18
throughsilence said on July 28, 2013 at 10:33 p.m.

Damn he's young. Didn't know he was only 22

#19
the_main_event said on July 28, 2013 at 10:38 p.m.

this makes no sence last year was over 20k for first place at evo in sf4 please correct me if im wrong what is going on?

#20
wallie said on July 28, 2013 at 10:38 p.m.

Wish he has made more money, but it is what it is. One maybe we can have 20-30k payouts for first. these guys put in so much work, but congrats to him. No one can take away the fact he is world champ and that is priceless.

#21
FPSForcefulEntry said on July 28, 2013 at 10:41 p.m.

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#22
Smorgasboard said on July 28, 2013 at 10:55 p.m.

The prize structure was changed so that 1st place gets half compared to last year and the lack of pot bonus certainly didn't help. Well, at least the title still means something if you are into bragging rights.

#23
MakotoJoker said on July 28, 2013 at 10:55 p.m.

should have used a better picture.

#24
SgtKonus said on July 28, 2013 at 10:58 p.m.

Good job Xian! Even with all of its growth, staying in the FGC for money might not be all that profitable.

#25
oldboy said on July 28, 2013 at 11:02 p.m.

lol. Xian wins the world championships with close to 2000 players and gets 5,500. PR Rog wins VxG and gets 6,000. Somethings not adding up.

#26
draw2 said on July 28, 2013 at 11:16 p.m.

I reckon he may have gotten more than disclosed, TBH.

Switching countries, and taking currency that wasn't "earned" through "employment" can sometimes be a problem.

#27
Wedge said on July 28, 2013 at 11:27 p.m.

No, $5500 is pretty shabby for the biggest game in the biggest tournament of the year.

#28
HooliganComboFTW said on July 28, 2013 at 11:29 p.m.

Wow Evo is getting hella poverty. Embrace #Esports paper

#29
sgfighter said on July 28, 2013 at 11:52 p.m.

@eventhubs here is a better image of article http://t.co/0tlkmJkSR2

#30
Gorehound said on July 29, 2013 at 12:12 a.m.

$5500, THAT'S IT!!!

No wonder players are switching over to other competitive games like DOTA and LoL. Their payouts can go up to 1 million dollars.

#31
Rahavic said on July 29, 2013 at 12:30 a.m.

$5,50.....my grandma can win that if she does good at Bingo every week in less than 3 months.

#32
crispylinks77 said on July 29, 2013 at 12:35 a.m.

I can finally understand why ChrisG didn't care about EVO. 1st place for Marvel probably got similar (crappy) payouts.

#33
rc_on said on July 29, 2013 at 12:39 a.m.

@16
Two days of work is correct, if you ignore the amounts of practice and preparation to actually do something like playing for 7k dollars.

#34
dennishubs said on July 29, 2013 at 12:40 a.m.

there's something really wrong about that price pool.. mr. wizard needs to do some explaining, we had more entrants, more participants, and more crowd yet the price pool is less.

#35
Smorgasboard said on July 29, 2013 at 12:44 a.m.

By the way, congrats Xian!

#36
Esquilax said on July 29, 2013 at 12:50 a.m.

I am so happy that Xian won

#37
TheDeadTexan said on July 29, 2013 at 1:04 a.m.

I remember last year's prize being huge, what the hell happened?

#38
Annon said on July 29, 2013 at 1:05 a.m.

It's a sad day for esports when the biggest fighting game championship of the year pays less than your average middle-class salary for FIRST place.

#39
massi4h said on July 29, 2013 at 1:06 a.m.

I thought everyone went over this after Evo finished. The pot was normally something like 60% for first, but this year for whatever reason it was changed to 30% or 33% for first. First and second almost have no difference now which kinda sucks.
Add on to the fact that for some reason there is no pot bonuses at Evo that's all you get.
Xian was happy with it and didn't complain though.

#40
blzd said on July 29, 2013 at 1:06 a.m.

Wow $5500 is nothing compared to last years prize money

#41
PaulBearer said on July 29, 2013 at 1:17 a.m.

What a fantastic piece in that newspaper.

I came away after reading that not only understanding what happened, but feeling really good about it. (being an FG fan)

Good stuff.

#42
Bob said on July 29, 2013 at 1:21 a.m.

The end of fighting games draws near. Money has too much importance now, of course Xian probably doesn't care. He won with Gen and that's all he needs.

#43
Ninjanuity said on July 29, 2013 at 1:24 a.m.

I'd just be happy I got $5,500 for playing video games of all things in the first place. But $25,000? Holy crap.

#44
TedTesty said on July 29, 2013 at 1:38 a.m.

I dunno, I really think they should have kept it at 60% of the pot goes to the winner.
35% is too piddly and not much higher than 2nd place.

#45
ONG_BAK_SAGAT said on July 29, 2013 at 1:43 a.m.

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#46
Turbojacke said on July 29, 2013 at 1:44 a.m.

whattttttttt????!!!!!!! only 5500 USDollar. how can it be that for dsota2 people can win millions? Not saying it must get ridicoulus but pff 5500.. wtf

#47
feralwolf72 said on July 29, 2013 at 2:15 a.m.

He may have got bonuses from his sponsor for being the champion. On top of that if he did get into a major publication and dropped his sponsors' name(s) he may get kick backs for that as well. It's great work and a great accomplishment and usually more restitution follows suit with that, at least in normal businesses.

#48
Jennyfromtheblock said on July 29, 2013 at 2:15 a.m.

I dont know where all that money is going but it sure is hell is not going to the winners.

#49
Sasuga said on July 29, 2013 at 2:33 a.m.

Scrony to say the least. don't forget to deduct the flight ticket and all.

Also: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/le...

wtf?

#50
BladeStunner said on July 29, 2013 at 2:59 a.m.

EVO is about the title. They must have though 'money doesn't matter as much' and cut down in price rewards to up the production value of the tournament.

#51
gtfopanda said on July 29, 2013 at 4:26 a.m.

@ #44

I'm afraid you are not very well versed in esports.

Those figures, for people who're supposed to do that as a job (because to get to that level, you need to play a truckload of time), are absolutely insulting.

Just look at the prize money for games like Dota 2, LoL or SC2 and see for yourself.

Dota 2 (which is growing exponentially as the game just launched) itself has a $ 2,700,000 pot (and counting, the community is pumping money into it thanks to Valve's brilliancy) tournament next week (biggest in esports history), and adding up all the other, small tourneys this previous year you are at about 1 kk.

And you gotta add sponsorships on top of that.

Basically, even tier 3 teams get more money than fighting games top players.

#52
jimmyeatsquaids said on July 29, 2013 at 4:36 a.m.

man...it's really no wonder why the FGC is small compared to other game communities. there is pretty much no reason to get good at fighting games when you basically get nothing in return for your hard work. this really needs to change.

oh and why was there a $25,000 prize last year and not this year???

#53
Loryuo said on July 29, 2013 at 4:47 a.m.

FGC needs to embrace Esports. Screw all this "We don't want other people coming in and changing our community" crap. Stupid people.

#54
rosy said on July 29, 2013 at 5:13 a.m.

Only 5500? O my, EVO is so cheap.

#55
essenthy said on July 29, 2013 at 5:14 a.m.

the level of play is wayyy too high compared to the prize money , really sad

#56
failfighter said on July 29, 2013 at 5:17 a.m.

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#57
TrishThreesome said on July 29, 2013 at 5:32 a.m.

Wow Singapore is a very rich country GDP per capita is $50,323 Xian even with his $5700 for 1st place at Evo is still at poverty level

should just get a 9 to 5 like trifarce

#58
x_Who_Is_Alpha said on July 29, 2013 at 5:42 a.m.

I saw the dollar amount and I couldn't believe it. That prize is so low compared to last years pot.. kinda sad. I'm still happy for him though since it probably wasn't about the money for him but more about the title.

#59
hlcws said on July 29, 2013 at 5:49 a.m.

#54 Why would "embracing esports" put money into fighting game tournaments? It's not about the community, it's up to the game publisher to push their game. They don't invest, so there are no returns...

#60
ZOMBIEMEGAMAN said on July 29, 2013 at 5:53 a.m.

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#61
bbgun83 said on July 29, 2013 at 6:24 a.m.

hahaha $5500, looks like organisers are pocketing some of the cash.

#62
Smorgasboard said on July 29, 2013 at 6:44 a.m.

To be fair, there are very few sports where the winnings alone are sustainable enough to keep going.
Most players and teams earn almost all their income from other sources like salaries, endorsement and licensing.

#63
xShonuffx said on July 29, 2013 at 6:47 a.m.

@60 More sponsorships means more money. Not just Madcatz and crap but food and beverages, all kinds of products around the world. You are partly right about developer support but Capcom won't do it primarily because they feel the community that supports their games don't want it (Which is true).

That's why you see a lot of other pro gamers move on to other competitive games because there is just so much more money and you don't even have to deal with the randomness or technical efforts you would find in a fighter most of the time.

The FGC is growing but the pots hardly, I think more and more pros are gonna go play something else until the pots get bigger. If it wasn't for sponsors right now paying for travel and arrangement's, we wouldn't even be seeing this high level of play now.

#64
CyberAthlete said on July 29, 2013 at 6:48 a.m.

FGC really isn't as big as people think it is...

#65
Focusflute said on July 29, 2013 at 6:57 a.m.

Rich EVO/Poor players. That pot was an insult.

Also DOTA, SC2, and LoL are popular cause ANYONE can play them. To be good at SF4/Marvel you better hang around in training mode for hours a day perfecting your 1 frame links instead of actually playing the game. With other games, you sit down and actually get to play the game. Fighting games should focus more on mind games rather than 1/60th of a second execution for some 1 frame link. Bet we would get a lot more players. Several of my friends quit SF4 because everything was too hard.

Ryu Dp cancel into ultra (DP motion, focus cancel, dash double motion for ultra) Think your average video game player can do that???? Think again. And its a fundamental part of how to play Ryu. FGs need to be more accessible or they will NEVER be "mainstream" again.

If you want pots like DOTA, SC2, and LoL---the games need to be easier to play and focus more on mind games, we need more sponsors, and Capcom needs to get behind their games and push them a LOT more.

#66
Jayson619 said on July 29, 2013 at 7 a.m.

I'm proud bcos I'm from Singapore too!

#67
throughsilence said on July 29, 2013 at 7:05 a.m.

@ Focusflute, funny you mention that, a bunch of my friends quit the same way. Too hard for new players to do those kind of things. The motions and execution are just too foreign to them- they get frustrated and give up. I try my best to teach them fundamentals, some stay, some move on to other games.

#68
sarif2soon said on July 29, 2013 at 7:36 a.m.

if you build it, money will come.

#69
gtfopanda said on July 29, 2013 at 7:55 a.m.

@ #66

You don't have the slightest clue about what it takes to become elite in those games if you think they're "easier", and this is coming from someone who used to think exactly that when was invested in fighting games only - at least when it comes to Dota 2 and SC2, LoL is just a dumbed down Dota which by definition is more accessible.

The time your pour into execution for fighting games goes into game knowledge, strat research, synergy with your teammates AND execution, because it's not like there's no split second decisions in those games.

The mechanical barrier is definitely a tough one, but not one which by itself makes the game harder than other genres, because they have other things going on for them which take a ton of time to master.

Actually, I'd argue that they're even more time consuming than fighting games, as just a couple of Dota matches can take more than 2 hours.

Also, once you get proficient with controls (shoryu fadc ultra is something you get down in no time assuming you know what you're doing - and by this I mean you know which controls/moves you're required to chain), new fighting games actually become way more accessible than trying to pick up another title from the same RTS genre.

#70
XeroDgX said on July 29, 2013 at 7:57 a.m.

@FocusFlute

So anybody can play DOTA, SC2 and LOL at high level???

Hope to see your nickname as the winner of that 7 digits prize as ANYBODY can play it

#71
kaeshi said on July 29, 2013 at 8:35 a.m.

Nobody can argue that sc2 doesnt take skill, ofc it does it takes a massive amount of strategy, micro, macro.

Dota on the other hand is more just about having a decent team synergy. There isnt a lot of individual skill involved in the game past a certain point, its all about the drafting and how your team communicates/plays.

So thought i would actually put sc2 above fighting games, moba games are really just popular due to accessibility.

#72
DevilMaySpy said on July 29, 2013 at 8:37 a.m.

VXG may have been a terrible viewing experience, but let it soak in that a 50 man tournament paid players more than 1,500+ man tournament at EVO.

#73
SFighterlove said on July 29, 2013 at 8:47 a.m.

Thats it? $5,500. I thought for sure he would have gotten paid 10 grand or more! Wow

#74
illness690 said on July 29, 2013 at 9:22 a.m.

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#75
hlcws said on July 29, 2013 at 9:32 a.m.

#64 Really? When has anybody ever turned down money? If capcom said "let me give you 100 grand pot bonus" do you think a TO would say "nah man, I hate esports"?

Look what Valve is doing with Dota...
Certain in-game purchases contribute to the prize pool of "The International" tournament.

Basically Valve turned EVERYBODY who plays the game into a potential contributor to the prize pot. Not just players and stream monsters.

If capcom actually cared about the competitive scene, they would do the same. Sell some exclusive skimpy alts to horny players and make half of the money go into a pot and host some bigass invite only tourney. But they don't see the big picture... they only care about their arcades in Nippon.

Also, people spend thousands of dollars to fly to vegas and put 10USD into the pot... I agree that we can raise the entry fee for every game to 20 USD. Or 50 even. So less multi-game trolling, more focussed effort.

#76
BoozerX said on July 29, 2013 at 9:32 a.m.

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#77
yoshisixtyfour said on July 29, 2013 at 9:46 a.m.

Biggest FGC event is less than most ESports. What if blizzard makes a FG, then will Xian get his eSports $$??

#78
Jennyfromtheblock said on July 29, 2013 at 9:47 a.m.

Nemo was smart get knocked out of Evo early look like an easy mark than body some of the best players in the game and make more than the Evo champ.

#79
Eltnum said on July 29, 2013 at 10:04 a.m.

5.7k for winning the biggest fighting game event of the year? LOL

#80
TwoDogKnight said on July 29, 2013 at 10:19 a.m.

Makes the whole idea of skipping other tournaments in preparation for evo (Daigo, Infiltration) look counterintuitive. Should be the other way around from now on- can't show all your tech at Evo so you can make sure you get that VxG crown.

#81
Vespesianus said on July 29, 2013 at 11:28 a.m.

5.5k? That's absolutely pathetic. Considering there were vastly more people this year, there must have definitely been more money. I wonder where it all went...

#82
whitey_deluca said on July 29, 2013 at 11:30 a.m.

$1 from every EVO entrant goes to SSF4 champ. How much does it cost to go to evo again? lol Where did the rest of the $300k+ go?

#83
YanDaMan said on July 29, 2013 at 11:33 a.m.

Why did he only win 5k? Wasnt last year's prize like, 3 to 4 times higher? WTF.

Either way congrats Xian, but dude got screwed over hard. Infiltration made like 20k at Evo and 25k from the 25th anniversary.

#84
caloge said on July 29, 2013 at 11:50 a.m.

guaranteed he is making less than minimum wage with the amount of work Xian put into practicing for this tournament

#85
deadedbypanda said on July 29, 2013 at 11:57 a.m.

Yeah, he may have WON $5,500, which really is bs if you think about it. Let's say he wasn't sponsored and had to pay to fly out to Las Vegas to enter in EVO. Flight+hotel+food+ entertainment = pretty damn close to his winnings.

I am not 100% certain on how EVO charges, but there were around 1,600 players entered in SSF4 at $10 a person, right? So that would be $16,000 total for JUST SSF4. Does EVO charge a venue fee as well? Meaning, do you have to pay X amount to enter the tournament and that $10 for each game you enter? If so, I would be pretty pissed if I only got $5,500 for proving I am the best at whatever game I am playing.

I may not be an accountant by any mean, but something tells me there is some weird stuff going on with their numbers. Sponsors also had to pay to have their names placed on the streams and to set up booths right? How did the house not make a profit off of this?

According to the early entrants post, there were a total of 6,142 people who entered in all the games total. Thats $61,420 in registration for all the games. Does anyone know what actual percentage gets kept or paid out?

#86
Reality said on July 29, 2013 at 12:08 p.m.

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#87
Ninjanuity said on July 29, 2013 at 12:30 p.m.

@gtfopanda $2.7 million pot?! What in the hell! I had no idea it got THAT high. XD

#88
KingKong said on July 29, 2013 at 12:33 p.m.

Yeah, it's true that FGC is that small partly because the execution requirements are way too high compared to most other esports.

#89
stinginghook said on July 29, 2013 at 12:47 p.m.

The only solution to a lot of the reoccurring problems such as corporate bull, TOs, collusion, etc. is transparency. I honestly think even if what goes down happens to go down in the same way with transparency, then the backlash is much less hateful. Being genuine and sincere is really all people desire from each other. Regardless of what you think of the human populace, it isn't hard to see when you're lying through your teeth. We may not like a certain situation, opinion, or action, but at least we're more inclined to respect it. Things aren't likely going to change though. Way of the world and society. Stupid and ridiculous when you think about it.

#90
SpinningPileDriver said on July 29, 2013 at 1:26 p.m.

Guys, they paid out ALL of top 8. All the money is still accounted for.

As a top player, a balanced payout structure like this is +EV in the long run. If you asked XIan before the tourney would he prefer a 70/20/10 split or all of top 8 get paid, he would take top 8 EVERY TIME.

Also, Capcom did not provide pot bonuses due to no 25th anniversary.

Also, what happens when the money is top loaded 70/20/10 to basically make the finals a 7000$ money match between the winner and loser?

You get pot splitting and fraud finals.

#91
CheeseCakez said on July 29, 2013 at 5:53 p.m.

Dat non e-Sports money.

#92
giefgrief said on July 29, 2013 at 6 p.m.

"As far as I'm concerned if this sh!t becomes a job, for me, I'm doing it for the wrong reasons you dig? You got a lot of these motha#$%^& tripping over this dollar bill. Do anything for a half a parade down the wrong street for that dollar bill."

#93
sarif2soon said on July 29, 2013 at 6:46 p.m.

money will come. just keep your passion.

#94
Tensa said on July 29, 2013 at 9:31 p.m.

That pay is kinda low for all that work

#95
bananainsaneface said on July 30, 2013 at 2:04 a.m.

Anyone know why he was paid so little? Past Evo main event champs usually got at least $20,000.

#96
Rootsat said on July 30, 2013 at 6:13 a.m.

lol that evo payouts, someone got rich this year.

#97
edrigo said on July 30, 2013 at 11:52 a.m.

So capcom can only provide/contribute to a pot bonus every 25 years? Yet they're happy to come on stage and sell products to the fgc?

#98
LegoBaka said on August 2, 2013 at 5:32 p.m.

@93: That would have been nice if it really was a 36%/22%/10%/8%/7%/7%/5%/5% split, but the money given out apparently doesn't match up. Xian in first got $5,700, but Tokido in second place only got $1,710, and third place Infiltration a paltry $760. Then PR Rog at $380, Haitani and Sako at $285, and Daigo and GamerBee at $190. This is not your percentage split, and the total payout amounts to only $9,500 from a 1,600+ tournament with a $10 per person entry fee.

While $5,700 is indeed about 36% of about a $15,800 pot, that doesn't excuse the lower amounts for the other places. I can only assume something is wrong somewhere, because otherwise where did all that money go?

(source: I pulled prize winnings from here: http://www.esportsearnings.com/events...)

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