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Updated: Nintendo reverses course - Super Smash Bros. Melee will be streamed at EVO 2013

Posted by Steven 'Dreamking23' Chavez • July 9, 2013 at 6:49 p.m. PDT
Updated: Super Smash Bros. Melee will be streamed at this year's EVO. The staff just got word from Nintendo that they will be allowed to proceed as originally planned.

A few hours back, it was reported that Nintendo of America wouldn't allow the EVO staff to stream Super Smash Bros. Melee at their event, but this decision was reversed, after numerous media outlets picked up the story.

Here are images of the original EVO schedule, the tournament times are on the left and stream schedule is on the right.


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Comments

HyperCombinationFinish said on July 9, 2013 at 3:22 p.m.

Waaaaooooooowwwww. Sucks for Smash fans and I don't really see how this benefits Nintendo at all.

#1
SeriphAngel said on July 9, 2013 at 3:22 p.m.

See Nintendo you are doing nothing but ruining your own publicity and neglecting dedicated fans who cannot make it to the events now.

#2
Chrisuchiwa said on July 9, 2013 at 3:23 p.m.

This is just stupid!!!

#3
Ketchup17 said on July 9, 2013 at 3:23 p.m.

CRAP.. oh well.. sad day

#4
Benify said on July 9, 2013 at 3:23 p.m.

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#5
ReddChief said on July 9, 2013 at 3:24 p.m.

Lmao thank you Nintendo you saved EVO thx

#6
Kikinzco said on July 9, 2013 at 3:24 p.m.

:S What the hell...

#7
Existent said on July 9, 2013 at 3:24 p.m.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

#8
JiFoJoka said on July 9, 2013 at 3:24 p.m.

This was a good way to promote Smash 4, stupid decision... I hope they reverse this.

#9
NyuBomber said on July 9, 2013 at 3:25 p.m.

CALL KOTAKU!

I'm serious.

#10
paralyzing said on July 9, 2013 at 3:25 p.m.

I'm not a huge fan of Melee at all, but this whole move is just so awful.

#11
mona said on July 9, 2013 at 3:25 p.m.

*sigh* F u nintendo, and your wiiu too.

#12
Gam3B0y said on July 9, 2013 at 3:26 p.m.

#6 LMAO :D

#13
Syirine said on July 9, 2013 at 3:26 p.m.

Really?

#14
Bumm said on July 9, 2013 at 3:26 p.m.

I shouldn't be surprised because the same thing happened with MLG Brawl.

#15
chipndip said on July 9, 2013 at 3:26 p.m.

Wow, and SF X TKN still gets shafted THIS hard? Why the hell can't they just remove the Marvel pools from Stream 3? SF X TKN only gets one freaking day for crying out loud. Same for Tekken. Who's making these schedules?

#16
Geniuzz said on July 9, 2013 at 3:26 p.m.

Has this ever happened before? Has any publisher or developer stopped a promotor from streaming their game? This is a rather bold move by Nintendo and I hope they won't start a trend with this.

#17
Aeybo said on July 9, 2013 at 3:27 p.m.

RIP Smash

#18
disp said on July 9, 2013 at 3:27 p.m.

Glad to see more KoF footage.

#19
DocFish said on July 9, 2013 at 3:27 p.m.

It's amazing to me that Evo is trying to shift all the blame on Nintendo when they have to have been just as shortsighted. Doesn't it make sense to get permission from ALL the major companies that you are streaming your monetized worldwide event from? Just in case? Maybe sort this out months ago when Smash first got in rather than 5 minutes ago when Nintendo had to tell you that you don't have permission? I don't think Nintendo is doing the right thing here obviously, but whoever is running Evo needs to think long and hard about how to properly run things.

#20
Supermangxx said on July 9, 2013 at 3:27 p.m.

Not the biggest fan of smash but I feel REALLY bad for the fans...

#21
bahamutknightzero said on July 9, 2013 at 3:27 p.m.

While it is nice for P4A and KOF13 now make it on Sunday, SFxT should've been in the mix as well for a Sunday final, especially over the KI exhibition (the new game exhibitions haven't been well accepted if I remember correctly, what with Playstation All-Stars last year and another game the year before that *can't remember if it was Skullgirls or VF5:FS*)

#22
Buckmoth said on July 9, 2013 at 3:27 p.m.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

#23
J said on July 9, 2013 at 3:28 p.m.

Wow. Just... wow.

#24
DeadpoolDash said on July 9, 2013 at 3:28 p.m.

This is what happens when you have a place for fighting games and add a game that's not a FG. Well done, I'm happy with that.

#25
Rothion said on July 9, 2013 at 3:29 p.m.

Yet Tekken (TTT2 AND SFxF) got neglectws again. They could just fine split the pool's stream time between P4 and KoF, but whatever.

Boo.

#26
bunny said on July 9, 2013 at 3:29 p.m.

seems like a bad call...hopefully someone streams it anyway. up yours nintendo. Cant believe they have to get permission in the first place stupid law only protects greedy businessmen.

#27
powdertoastzman said on July 9, 2013 at 3:29 p.m.

Damn I bet it's TriForce's fault hell y'all blame him for everything else

#28
Jaaj301 said on July 9, 2013 at 3:29 p.m.

Wow. Just wow.

#29
umeshoryu89 said on July 9, 2013 at 3:30 p.m.

oh man I feel bad for the kids who participated in that donation drive...

#30
ElderSkrulls said on July 9, 2013 at 3:30 p.m.

That sucks. Dem business decisions.

#31
thomaslight said on July 9, 2013 at 3:30 p.m.

Great Nintendo, Great.

Reggie, you're stupid.

#32
AeonGuardian said on July 9, 2013 at 3:30 p.m.

Well, I guess no Smash Bros-- or any Nintendo games won't be at next year's EVO then. Holy crap, it's a good thing Microsoft bought Rare so we can still have Killer Instinct!

Wow, who'd have thunk that?

#33
Echo01 said on July 9, 2013 at 3:30 p.m.

Nintendo...like what? This can't be real. I'm having trouble processing it. How in the hell does this benefit Nintendo's image? What kind of message does this send to the Smash community - heck, to Smash fans in general?

#34
J said on July 9, 2013 at 3:30 p.m.

Wish we could see more TTT2 and SFxT.

#35
eSportsOfSarus said on July 9, 2013 at 3:32 p.m.

Screw the anime community. Smash deserves better than this...

#36
gtfopanda said on July 9, 2013 at 3:32 p.m.

A terrible company behind the game and more exposure to P4A and KoF?

Hell friggin' yeah.

Still not sure why Tekken is getting shafted, the game deserves much better.

#37
ZombieShroom said on July 9, 2013 at 3:32 p.m.

After all the effort in getting it voted in, it won't be shown...hopefully they won't have this farce next year, have a real game you know will be shown, this is a complete and utter joke.

#38
phoenixkusanagi said on July 9, 2013 at 3:32 p.m.

...dafuq? Really, Nintendo? It's not enough that certain factions in the FGC don't even like your game, now you're pissing off your fans too? Great frakkin' job. I suppose you don't CARE whether your game gets exposure or if you turn off people from even WANTING to stream it. You'd better rectify this, or say goodbye to getting anyone to buy your new Smash.

#39
RandomJohn said on July 9, 2013 at 3:32 p.m.

This is why Nintendo is and has always been LAST in the console wars. They're so uptight about their products that they're willing to prevent someone to stream their product FOR FREE! This is basically FREE ADVERTISING for Nintendo. I'm surprised they didn't tell SRK to eliminate their game from the tourney.

#40
Bader said on July 9, 2013 at 3:33 p.m.

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#41
JIHADJOE said on July 9, 2013 at 3:33 p.m.

Listen up Smash community:

Sakurai already said it wasn't a competitive fighting game, so stop trying to make it so! Soon all your streams will be shut down and all your youtube videos will be flagged for infringement.

Resistance is futile. Do not go against the maN.

#42
TonyCorleone said on July 9, 2013 at 3:34 p.m.

My interest for Nintendo products has long disappeared, but I guess they've upset some people by doing this.

Way to go, Nintendo. Your market share in the console market is going to hit an all time low, and you pull shize like this!? Personally, I can't wait for you to go bust.

Wii U... pfft. Throw that shize in a grinder.

#43
Orichalkos said on July 9, 2013 at 3:34 p.m.

Good Riddance! Now we get to see more actual fighting games with Persona 4 and KOF :D. Thanks Nintendo!!!!

#44
skitz0phrenic said on July 9, 2013 at 3:36 p.m.

This is absolutely horrible. Melee is such an insanely high skill game and this was going to be such an amazing tournament. This ruins a third of Evo for me.

#45
Sanox said on July 9, 2013 at 3:36 p.m.

wow seriously?

so nintendo gets free advertising for the smash series hopefully reigniting some of the smash hype after the dissapointment that was brawl and they do not allow it to be streamed....

nintendo these days is really trying to destroy itself

#46
Spordo said on July 9, 2013 at 3:36 p.m.

if i was the promote, next time, new smash bross, no tournament in evo and no pubblicity for nintendo's game!
This is incredible!

#47
Xul said on July 9, 2013 at 3:37 p.m.

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#48
P0LARCLAW said on July 9, 2013 at 3:38 p.m.

Nice job making the dumbest business decision possible Nintendo.

#49
JELIFISH19 said on July 9, 2013 at 3:38 p.m.

So not including Smash, SFxT is tied for 3rd in entrants with Injustice and it still only gets the finals streamed? It also has the 3rd highest number of international players. I really don't understand why they're doing this to SFxT. And it's sad to say that we'll be lucky to even see top 8 instead of top 4 with how streams are usually run. You would think it would get more love considering that most people say it was the most hype game at FR.

#50
originalhuman said on July 9, 2013 at 3:38 p.m.

nintendo did something that flies in the face of good business sense? wow, that's so unlike them.

#51
PrincessPeach said on July 9, 2013 at 3:38 p.m.

Dammit Nintendo, I love you guys, but this is such a d*** move. xD

#52
Bluefang14 said on July 9, 2013 at 3:41 p.m.

This isn't the first time Nintendo's shot down free advertisement. Remember the whole Let's Play fiasco a few months back? It's happening all over again.

#53
HyperViperNZ said on July 9, 2013 at 3:42 p.m.

Hmmm wonder what there reasoning is.

#54
smashawiiu said on July 9, 2013 at 3:42 p.m.

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#55
ONG_BAK_SAGAT said on July 9, 2013 at 3:43 p.m.

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#56
SonicfanQ said on July 9, 2013 at 3:44 p.m.

Screw u nintendo! thats all I got to say . There was NO reason to do this!

#57
Exand said on July 9, 2013 at 3:44 p.m.

LOL Nintendo.

This along with the recent "reason" for having DRM on their game consoles highlights which of the big three is really out of touch with their user base.

#58
NoizyChild said on July 9, 2013 at 3:44 p.m.

#56

Green, red, or blue?

#59
Mmneggs said on July 9, 2013 at 3:45 p.m.

I am deeply saddened by this... !#@$ you Nintendo...

#60
TrueGamingGuru said on July 9, 2013 at 3:46 p.m.

Well this is EVO's fault in their own right to include certain games without their permissions, on top of that the American Branch of Nintendo are very likely to hear fan complaints from the Smash Community. Off topic I don't even like Nintendo of America because they have a reputation of censoring games, and heck I never like America's way to begin with or any Western in general when it comes to their medias.

@25 People like you give the FGC a bad name. SSB is a fighter game in its own right because of the mechanics, why don't people like you grow up and accept that SSB is one of the fighter games.

#61
mundaney said on July 9, 2013 at 3:47 p.m.

So...what happens to all that money the Smash community came up with? Not all of them get to benefit from their donation now.

#62
FathomFear said on July 9, 2013 at 3:47 p.m.

I absolutely hate Smash as a game, but this is horrible for the fans and community. Is Nintendo not aware that this is a huge tournament? Streaming it will only bring interest to the game and potentially new sales. Very short-sighted decision.

#63
FrenchPingu said on July 9, 2013 at 3:48 p.m.

Well that's sucks for all Smash's fan.
For the schedule they'd rather have a KI demonstration than SFxT final ? Really ?
And still only finals for TTT2 :(

#64
Yousend said on July 9, 2013 at 3:49 p.m.

Money... Nintendo isn't sponsoring, nor are they getting any revenue from this and I'm assuming that Evo is somewhat profitable. I heard that Nintendo is trying to get the revenue from people doing "let's play" videos where their game is the only reason people watch.* (Where you watch the game for the story and then don't buy it) So this doesn't actually surprise me.

*I forget where I heard this, so don't quote me.

#65
Bob said on July 9, 2013 at 3:49 p.m.

I'm sure if fans complain enough, there might be just a slim chance of reversal decision.

I wonder who made the call at Nintendo. I'm sure Reggie would have said yest to it.

#66
Double007Snake said on July 9, 2013 at 3:50 p.m.

damn all that money raised to be on the biggest stage of the year and get denied.

#67
29once said on July 9, 2013 at 3:51 p.m.

Nintendo as a whole is going down fast, this is just another sign.
They'll be the new Sega sooner than you think.

#68
rc_on said on July 9, 2013 at 3:51 p.m.

SFxT pools will eventually be streamed by someone else.

#69
Batmang said on July 9, 2013 at 3:51 p.m.

The worst part about all this is how hard the Smash community worked to get their game into EVO only to have it removed because of Nintendo's insecurity. Add onto that the fact that Melee has been at EVO before, as well as Brawl, and both games are still streamed. WTF Nintendo? This sure is some great publicity for Smash 4.

#70
BumblebeeCody said on July 9, 2013 at 3:52 p.m.

Why Reggie? BibleThump

#71
Fenaris said on July 9, 2013 at 3:52 p.m.

Amazing. The amount of publicity Nintendo just cost themselves is surprising.

... Suddenly Capcom doesn't seem like such a terrible company.

#72
Fluttershy said on July 9, 2013 at 3:52 p.m.

#42
Just because he said it wasnt supposed to be a competitive fighting game, doesn't mean it can't become one. That's like telling a kid he cant be an actor cuz hes ugly, or saying you cant whip eggs with Chopsticks. He didn't make the game to be a competitive FG, but thats how it turned out thanks to the fans constantly churning out new technology over the past 10 years

#73
Eye_of_Orochi said on July 9, 2013 at 3:53 p.m.

Well...this is quite suckish.

#74
wildthing86 said on July 9, 2013 at 3:55 p.m.

nintendo is very smart instead of sponsorize the event and the smash bros comunity the ruin it obscuring the stream such a smart ass that reggy Kappa

#75
Major_Dog said on July 9, 2013 at 3:55 p.m.

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#76
spectaa said on July 9, 2013 at 3:56 p.m.

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#77
wallie said on July 9, 2013 at 3:57 p.m.

You suck Nintendo. that is all I got to say about that.

#78
Tainoaldo174 said on July 9, 2013 at 3:57 p.m.

What a fcking stupid move by Nintendo. I don't even play Smash but I was looking forward to seeing it played at a high level for this weekend.

#79
AugustAPC said on July 9, 2013 at 3:57 p.m.

Nintendo straight pulling a Microsoft. What a scummy move. They're usually the good guys in the industry.

#80
Skaz9000 said on July 9, 2013 at 3:57 p.m.

Hmm, so I guess Nintendo doens't want to show support for their own products, or fans who raised ~$80,000(?) for charity just to see one of their favorite games played by skilled players.

Welp, I've always been a strong supporter of Smash being a legitimate competitive series, but now I think I have to admit defeat; The company just keeps going out of their way to screw with fans at every turn. Why should we support a company who does this kind of thing?

#81
Redvii said on July 9, 2013 at 3:57 p.m.

Despite the fact that I wasn't going to watch any SSBM (and this now means AE has almost double the stream time!), I can still sympathise with it's fans. Hard luck.

#82
Piesforever said on July 9, 2013 at 3:58 p.m.

I'd tell all of you dissing smash melee and laughing at this news off, but I'm so mad right now... maybe your right. Why watch a game it's own company doesn't even like. This is redunk. seriously reconsidering the wii u, even if it has bayonetta 2 and the new smash. Waiting for bayonetta to go to another console like most of the wii u's exclusives.

#83
MAXIMUM_PANTS said on July 9, 2013 at 3:59 p.m.

This is the most disappointing news story that I have ever read related to the FGC.

:(

#84
Gameplan said on July 9, 2013 at 3:59 p.m.

Nice, more stream time for actual fighting games.

#85
sarif2soon said on July 9, 2013 at 3:59 p.m.

thank you nintendo for saving our streams from non-fgs.
@72
SUDDENLY?!?!

#86
Ultim87 said on July 9, 2013 at 4:02 p.m.

So... I love Nintendo, but I guess they love Breast Cancer? Because that's what the money was raised for to get Smash here, sooo... Yeah. I generally cheer for them and even have a Wii U. They're gonna regret this.

#87
ProfessorLester said on July 9, 2013 at 4:04 p.m.

@40
1.Wii – 99.84 million as of 31 March 2013[8]
2.PlayStation 3 – 75 million as of 9 February 2013[53] (IDC March 2013 estimate: "78 million")[54]
3.Xbox 360 – 77.2 million as of 31 March 2013[55]

#88
RedRapperSux said on July 9, 2013 at 4:04 p.m.

@86

I think he meant "slowly".

#89
samuraikatana1 said on July 9, 2013 at 4:04 p.m.

But why...? This would have been nothing but positive PR and hype for Smash Wii-U. Not to mention the amount of money raised by FANS for cancer research in the process. I mean Nintendo seriously, what the hell are you thinking?

#90
DarknessFallz said on July 9, 2013 at 4:05 p.m.

I forgot smash was gonna be at evo - back to forgetting i go

#91
smashawiiu said on July 9, 2013 at 4:05 p.m.

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#92
okay said on July 9, 2013 at 4:06 p.m.

Nintendo makes crap like Brawl and now they block Melee from being streamed. They must not really care for the tournament community. Thanks for another reason not to buy SSB4 or a Wii U.

#93
triplefierce said on July 9, 2013 at 4:07 p.m.

@20

Really great point about EVO failing to get permission from Nintendo, especially after the articles a couple of months ago about Nintendo disapproving of the Let's Play videos. I would have thought that any tourney involving a Nintendo game would have made sure to have cleared it with Nintendo after that drama.

EVO made a mistake and Nintendo is out of touch. It's an odd decision for Nintendo to make, just shortly after announcing a new Smash title. It's as if they are trying to alienate their biggest fans to sabotage their own game.

#94
RunningWild said on July 9, 2013 at 4:09 p.m.

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#95
zUkUu said on July 9, 2013 at 4:09 p.m.

Is nintendo retarded? Free commercial for up to 100k+ viewers?

#96
Viro_veteruscy said on July 9, 2013 at 4:09 p.m.

Knowing that there's more than 1 person that works at Nintendo "of American", I blame whoever is the legal guy. Reggie better send the Villager after that guy and fast.

Nintendo of Japan, assist please?

#97
Hawky said on July 9, 2013 at 4:09 p.m.

@20 and @61
Actually, this isn't the first time that this has happened. It's happened at MLG too. And MLG tried to get permission but couldn't. So it's not all Evo's fault to blame and completely Nintendo's. It's a copyright thing. And they aren't gonna be willing to allow such a big showing of their game without some sort of payout from the people running the event. Either show them some money, or just hold that L. Which sucks since the community worked so hard.

#98
Gam3freak99 said on July 9, 2013 at 4:09 p.m.

How does MK9 have more stream time than SFXT? and Nintendo is really messing up lately, first taking money from youtubers who record their games and now saying Smash can't be streamed.

#99
EnsignHiro said on July 9, 2013 at 4:11 p.m.

Nintendo comeon! Why remove smash bros? You guys don't like free hype and advertising?

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