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Sven had higher sales expectations for Marvel vs. Capcom Origins than it's tracked to, still a lot they can do to drive more

Posted by Jonathan 'Catalyst' Grey • January 18, 2013 at 10:49 a.m. PST
Sven had higher sales expectations for Marvel vs. Capcom Origins than it's tracked to, still a lot they can do to drive more Sales on Marvel vs. Capcom Origins, the compilation title which has both Marvel vs. Capcom 1 and Marvel Super Heroes, hasn't sold up to Christian Svensson's expectations so far, he said recently via the Capcom Forums. The title was released on Sept. 25, 2012 for $14.99 USD.

Svensson added that there's still a lot more Capcom can do to drive sales, though, so things may turn around for that particular game.

Christian also talked about the decision to not include trials and add four playable characters instead of three, into Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition. There's no word on which fighter would have been omitted if they added trials, Evil Ryu, Oni, Yang or Yun, but it does show how much effort goes into some of these other modes Capcom works on.

Jonny: When will Marvel vs. Capcom Origins 2 be released? Did Marvel vs. Capcom Origins sell very well?

Svensson: No plans for additional titles at this time. I'd had higher expectations for MvC:O than it's tracking to. That said, it's still early days and there's lots we can still do to drive sales.

Rafa: Why didn't Capcom implement trials for Yun, Yang, Evil Ryu and Oni in SSF4 AE?

Svensson: It was asked several times years ago when AE first came out.

The reasons if I recall were primarily schedule and budget driven. The option was to go for four characters instead of three with trials. It was felt there was more value in an additional character rather than the trials.

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Xykes said on January 18, 2013 at 10:54 a.m.

Rather have more characters than trials, anyday.

#1
iMTopTier said on January 18, 2013 at 10:54 a.m.

MvCO2? wtf lol

and they still trying to sell MvCO but dont try to talk to Disney about UMvC3........we want new content for the game

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GokaiGreen said on January 18, 2013 at 10:55 a.m.

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revolvingsun said on January 18, 2013 at 11:02 a.m.

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Graphf said on January 18, 2013 at 11:03 a.m.

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#5
Tensa said on January 18, 2013 at 11:04 a.m.

@2 talk to Disney? I think they only need to talk to marvel an I am sure they are which is why stuff is hard to explain,anyways mvco2? I don't think there is a reason to make another one that would add xmen vs sf an mshvssf because not enough people brought this one including me :/

#6
RiyuRimururu said on January 18, 2013 at 11:05 a.m.

I wish more ppl play MVCO...

#7
Bumm said on January 18, 2013 at 11:07 a.m.

Still waiting for that "MvC Origins 2" :P

#8
htownboss23 said on January 18, 2013 at 11:07 a.m.

for starters they wont ever cut evil ryu out on any street fighter game and why not just add marvel vs capcom 2 and marvel super heroes vs street fighter to marvel vs capcom origins that will make the sells go up

#9
NoizyChild said on January 18, 2013 at 11:13 a.m.

2 of the most broken games in the VS. series that hardly anyone played to begin with.

Did you really expect high sales with this one?

#10
lukecage83 said on January 18, 2013 at 11:17 a.m.

@9: An HD version of MvC2 is already up on PSN/XBL. No need for another. If anything they need to add the remaining titles left of the series...

-XCOTA
-XVSF
-MSHVSF

And I guess as a small bonus, add HD versions of The Punisher (Arcade Beat'em Up), and X-Men, Mutant Apocalypse (SNES). In conjunction w/MSH and MVC1, that would be a true Origins bundle, as it would contain all the collaboration works between the 2 parties (save for MvC2-3 of course).

#11
iMTopTier said on January 18, 2013 at 11:17 a.m.

#6 Disney owns Marvel

#12
trufenix said on January 18, 2013 at 11:19 a.m.

proving once again capcom has no reason to pursue more marvel.

#13
BumblebeeCody said on January 18, 2013 at 11:23 a.m.

A budget!? Alright sorry, I thought Capcom were this multi-billion dollar company that puts out triple A titles. I forgot that SSFIVAE was an indie created by 12 Japanese students in their apartments.
Good one there, Capcom.

#14
Ex_Ein said on January 18, 2013 at 11:39 a.m.

@15 games still are only given a certian budget you forgot capcom has published and deved over 30 retail and downloadable games in the last year alone across all platforms

#15
bugonisx2 said on January 18, 2013 at 11:43 a.m.

@#15

A game being a triple A title doesn't mean jack if the revenue it generates doesn't cover and exceed what it cost to produce. You know that game Prototype 2? It sold OK but didn't meet the expectations of its publisher (I think it was Activision). So they cut their loses and shut down the studio that made it. And EA says that Dead Space 3 needs to do $5 million in sales to be considered profitable and justify more games in the series. And...that's just not going to happen.

Capcom is certainly not "12 Japanese students in their apartments", but they don't exactly have a Scrooge McDuck size building full of money in their backyard either.

#16
Evil_Hayato said on January 18, 2013 at 11:44 a.m.

I think they should focus on the already established games that are out and add more DLC for income. Making more fighters all at the same time just over saturates the market and makes buying more of their titles less viable. I feel MVC:O was a mistake to make. I love those games back in the arcades but bringing out essentially obsolete titles is not a great way to go. I like the idea of bringing out older classics in hopes of tallying their popularity to potentially make a new sequel to the series though. i.e. mvc2, ds:resurrection,etc.

#17
TrueGamingGuru said on January 18, 2013 at 11:50 a.m.

@13 Actually for video game rights, Its mostly Activision that owns the Marvel rights for games. While Disney only owns Marvel for Movies & TV Shows.

I know the reason that X-Men Children of the Atom & X-Men vs Street Fighter wasn't in Origins is due to copyright issue from both Marvel & Activision.

#18
Xykes said on January 18, 2013 at 11:57 a.m.

"BumblebeeCody
A budget!? Alright sorry, I thought Capcom were this multi-billion dollar company that puts out triple A titles. I forgot that SSFIVAE was an indie created by 12 Japanese students in their apartments.
Good one there, Capcom."

Wow, this is the ignorance that Capcom PR has to deal with. Straight up ignorance. That's the only word that can describe the above comment.

#19
Torrie_De_Goddess said on January 18, 2013 at 12:01 p.m.

For the last time, Disney has nothing to do with acquiring the Marvel license for video games; Marvel still has control of who they wanna license to. However, if the license is being leased out by another, chances are folks wanting something related to Capcom well have to wait a while.

Why did he have high expectations for MvCO? Expectations should never be too high to begin with especially when just rehashing the epitome of unbalanced projects from the past. How many new players were gonna take the time to learn either game? This is why I have no idea why they feel the Darkstalkers Ressurection will do well; especially here in the states.

#20
SeMi_AuTo said on January 18, 2013 at 12:13 p.m.

I'm not surprised Marvel Origins didn't sell well. It really (at least to me)didn't seem to be demand for either of those two game. The old games that seems to get the most request is CVS2 and maybe Alpha 3. If they put either of those two games out with an HD update I think people would be into that. I was very surprised to hear that there where putting out Marvel 1 and Marvel Super Heroes......

#21
ya_boy said on January 18, 2013 at 12:27 p.m.

Capcom is never satisfied with sales from any of their series which is why they have killed half of them and given the other half away to incompetent developers.

#22
xShonuffx said on January 18, 2013 at 12:35 p.m.

I think Capcom Fans get screwed over the most out of any Fan base for a game company.

We can't get a new Mega Man
We can't get CvS2 or a 3
We can't get Survival Horror back in RE games
We can't get an Update for UMvC3
We can't Get a new Alpha game or HD remake
We can't get a new Okami
We can't get a new Viewtiful Joe
We can't get a new Godhand
We can't get crap!!

It's like we're cursed or something.

#23
Abbadon36 said on January 18, 2013 at 12:36 p.m.

@ 22 very true!
I still like origins but UMVC3 is out so ppl are gonna be like "why"?

#24
Riskbreakerz said on January 18, 2013 at 12:37 p.m.

make the trials DLC

#25
mp91 said on January 18, 2013 at 12:42 p.m.

good call on ssf4 ae
too much fighting game for now
i wasn't able to find ONE oppenent for MSH on psn

adding more characters to existing might be better

#26
flairinmike said on January 18, 2013 at 1:03 p.m.

Releasing games people can already play for free on ggpo supercade etc isn't making fat revenue? Firstly, I'm not surprised, secondly good luck with darkstalkers...

#27
AkumaMishima said on January 18, 2013 at 1:22 p.m.

@xShoNuffx

True, but remember that SF4 and MvC3 used to be "never in a million years" games as well.

If this re-release of Vs games didn't perform up to expectations I kind of wonder what this means for the Darkstalkers re-release.

#28
badjab326 said on January 18, 2013 at 1:26 p.m.

I love MvC1 and MSH, but I'm not gonna pay for a port that's worse than the one that came out 12 years ago for dreamcast. At least the dreamcast version had a 4-player mode and onslaught mode. Give me those features and I might consider it.

Still though it's the same game I had before and they put less work into it than they did with 3rd Strike OE. Imo it was a pretty big disappointment considering they could have done a lot with the games. (ideally i'd have liked to see the stages, music and characters from the other CPS2 vs. games added to MvC1 as DLC, or X-Men CotA characters added to MSH, but Capcom probably doesn't have anyone that skilled on their team.)

#29
flairinmike said on January 18, 2013 at 1:29 p.m.

@29 don't worry ds4 will come regardless of resurrections sales. Just another attempt at milking the cash cow before the birth of a new calf...

#30
Melfice said on January 18, 2013 at 1:38 p.m.

I'm know why I'm not buying MVCO - ridiculous pricing. I don't know about other regions, but in RU it has a really high price, I'm not even considering to buy until they put it on sale at least about have the price. And thats with all capcom titles in psn store in general: RE HD remakes, okami, not worse such big price.

#31
mrambitious said on January 18, 2013 at 1:38 p.m.

These HD remakes are so dumb. Great you can play an outdated and out classed game online now. SO WORTH $20... NOT!

I just don't get it. Put money into UMVC or new games. Why waste time trying to get nostalgia money from people?

Emulator: Free. Available online
Game Roms: Free. Available online
Level of difficulty: almost negligable, DL and play essentially
2 logitec wired PC controllers: $10 on amazon

Now you can play all your old favorites for basically just the cost of a cheap pc controller, like:
MVC1, MVC2, MSH, MvSF, CvSNK1, CvSNK2, Jojo's bizzare adventure, darkstalkers (VS) 1-3, and anything else they are remaking/ remade. I have Tekken 1-3 running, SFA 1-3, SF Zero series, literally about 50 games on my PC all which run perfectly fine.

stop with the HD remakes PLEASE. Such a waste of time.

#32
iMTopTier said on January 18, 2013 at 1:50 p.m.

#33 you dont even need to buy a pc controller you can play with a Ps3 or x360 controller

Capcom is wasting time with useless HD remakes
and people is saying that Disney has no right over Marvel games but why did Niitsuma said that the game cant get an update after Marvel staff posted something on twitter?

#33
JiCi said on January 18, 2013 at 2:05 p.m.

How can the addition of one more character affect the addition of trials? Then again, trials for Yun, Yang, Evil Ryu and Oni would have been a bit pointless, because the other characters' trials are outright outdated due to the 2012 patch. If Capcom is looking for a valable excuse, just say: "The 2012 patch would have forced us to remake new trials for every character while adding those for the 4 new characters, so we didn't bother."

MvC1 and MSH weren't the most requested games to be remade. In fact, people are asking to update the most popular ones (SSFIVAE and UMvC3), drop the one that nobody gives a damn about (SFxT) and upGRADE the series that people want (Darkstalkers). Online remakes aren't really the big thing now. Why play MvC1 when you have MvC2 and UMvC3? Why play 3rd Strike when you have SSFIVAE?

Resurrection does make sense because DS4 might be in the making and Capcom might want to offer newcomers to chance to experience the series before releasing the new game. However, going for the arcade version of DS3 instead of the more complete console/PSP version is still questionable though.

#34
godfist314 said on January 18, 2013 at 2:11 p.m.

I don't understand this mentality of "10000x more of franchise x". Especially megaman. Have we not had enough of megaman for 2 decades? Just sayin'.

Megaman 1-10 (Yea TEN GAMES)
Megaman X1-8
All those weirdly named versions on GBA/DS like Megaman ZX and Battlnetwork
Megaman legends 1-2?
I have no idea what the rest are.
I think perhaps Capcom cancelled more new megaman games because of market oversaturation..or they ran out of ideas after pumping out 50+ MM titles. I dunno I'm just venting here.

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kaylastephen39 said on January 18, 2013 at 3:06 p.m.

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#36
TrueGamingGuru said on January 18, 2013 at 4:03 p.m.

@24 Lets just say that fans can't have everything of what they want, Videogames is part of life, and everything in life no one gets what they want.

Heck for Mega Man there is development going on for Mega Man we would have to wait longer, he is in a position of what happen with Street Fighter (before SFIV was released) & what was going on with Sonic (SEGA).

CvS series & UMvC3 is something that they need to deal with getting permission from SNK (CvS series) & Marvel (UMvC3).

SF Alpha there is currently no ideas that Ono-san can think of at the moment, and HD remix who really knows what they were going to work on.

For Okami, Viewtiful Joe, Godhand something was going down with Clover Studio that they had to be burden with Capcom's corporate management which they don't want to do risky new ideas which later Clover Studio was shut down.

Sometimes people (including fans) must face a cruel reality, and even videogames suffer the same fate as the games before them.
Even people need to start asking for less, and not expect anything.

#37
Chunners said on January 18, 2013 at 4:14 p.m.

The problem is the same one they had fifteen years ago, and they're doing it again: Too many fighting titles all released too closely.

#38
SoWheresSagat said on January 18, 2013 at 5:07 p.m.

Its not that the game is broken....Its just that the GGPO community has no real reason to buy this at this point. Even Art was trying to encourage the players from there community to buy it, but unfortunately that will never happen.

As much as I want DarkStalkers/Vampire Resurrection to be successful, that's a long shot. Still People will probably buy it and then quit on the first day because its hard.

#39
trufenix said on January 18, 2013 at 5:08 p.m.

@39, 15 years ago capcom's primary fighting game revenue (arcades) was drying up, and they hadn't launched a successful new fighting ip in years. Management took the poor performance of Dreamcast and xbox ports as a sign that the genre was no longer profitable and simply gave up on it.

Nobody else slowed down their releases or modified their support schemes at all, the oversaturation most people claim was the near death of the genre was basically just Capcom's cold feet about a future without arcades.

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dtweiuiusdfi said on January 18, 2013 at 6:49 p.m.

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#41
blazebwoy said on January 18, 2013 at 9:52 p.m.

DRIVE SALES
ADD JIN and Capt Commando to umvc3,if fans download MvCO, they get new characters for UMVC3 for free...just an idea
MVCO are brilliant games, they have the traditional SF 6 button attack system before it went anal in MVC2, MVCO is more of a footsie game like SF as opposed to the 1 touch kill of MvC2,umvc3,guess you spammers and cheapskates arent naturally good at that...so i understand the hate ;p

#42
SillyGoose said on January 18, 2013 at 10:10 p.m.

@41 finally someone who understands that Capcom fighters was the only thing that died around the early 2000's. Everyone else kept making their fighting games. It really shows how self centered some fans of capcom are."our game is dead so the genre is dead" LoL

#43
blazebwoy said on January 19, 2013 at 2:55 a.m.
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iuyfweiousdf said on January 19, 2013 at 4:24 a.m.

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#45
JRXP2011 said on January 19, 2013 at 7:31 a.m.

stop messing around and just hit sf4 and marvel3 with some more characters.

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