Dieminion: I don't think America can reach Japan's level in the Street Fighter 4 series

Reverse physchology?

What about Koreas? (No Kappa)

Sh*t storm in 5 .. 4 .. 3... 2.

Japan will always be superior to America in any fighting game they invest time in and play.
Nobody said the world is fair.

Japan investing time into fighting games is an understatement.

Was it really necessary for them to have that dumb intro with the silly music in every video?

@6 its a sponsored video so the sponsors video has to be included in the interview.

@6, yes it was... learn to skip it.

first MikeRoss, now Dimenion .. that says something, and it hurts BibleThump

"America" really? Freemenion ain't gonna put me into a cluster****.

It's skill, not race that matters.

yeah japan will overall be better than u.s or any country since they can all easily play with the best of the best everyday but we are keeping up...sorta but still changing characters is not a good idea this late in the game I feel most characters can win tourneys in ae

Well here come all the Japan dickriders in full force. What doesn't make sense is that some or most of the Japan dickriders are American.

Not everyone has enough free time to invest 8 or more hours into a videogame day in and day out. Some people actually have real lives and don't make their living off of competitive videogame playing.

If pro players actually played at local Arcades and not against each other online and tournaments only, then maybe we would have a chance at getting better. Right now, not so much. These guys don't even attend casuals

Before you get into the Japan fanboys go look at CD Jr's interview and you will see he calls out the fanboys and top Japanese players

I hear that! I have to go 120 miles to my closest tournament. It's fun but that is not cheap. Online could always be better. They could update SFAE but SF5 will be out be we know it and I still love SF4AE.

Dieminion only said that america won't hit japan levels due to population density and bad online, if the online was fixed our levels would go up, its the reason why for so long California ruled the scene compared to the rest of the country.

@4: Just like Japan dominates Marvel, right? Oh wait...

I like Mame-Spider, but no one from Japan is on the level of America's top players besides Kusoru and Chou.

Damn! Just like that.

Infiltration's Korean,though, right?

scumbag/good guy Dieminion:

Complains that guile is low tier and low tier loses to everyone regardless of skill. Continues to play Guile.

U.S. isn't on the Japan's level in SF4.

So what's next?

Also, having better internet connection isn't the problem. Just admit the fact SF is Japan's game and MvC3 is U.S.'s game.

Well, we won't with that give up attitude Dieminion. If you defeat yourself mentally, how will you ever prevail?

@Benify, if you were born here, you are American.

"That ticket (to VXG) is looking like it has my name on it"

>Gets 13rd on Apex lol

They just work harder and experiment more.

THE BIGGEST REASON, I believe, is cause you have to sometimes pay 100yen, about 1 dollar, per match so every loss really hits the wallet, and forces you to learn the counter. If everytime you played online it cost $1, I bet we'd all learn better set-ups to ensure victory.

@shekeib I agree completely.

I also think it's part of their culture.

Also, Its important to remember umvc3 isn't on arcade and it isn't common to invite friends over to play xbox at your house in Japan.

Usually people play games together at GameCenters(arcades) and if a fighting game isn't at the arcade, it pretty much doesn't have a following.

Lucky for us there is FinalRoundBats!

Plus, you can't really get weed there, so there's more salt when you lose = more time spent in the lab

haha, but im kinda serious.

It's been said already but ill chime in too. That's just stupid to say. There's a crap ton of top level players online that flat out don't compete at tourneys. Why? Who cares,aube because of travel, maybe because of personal commitments like family(kids). Maybe symy because to alot if players it's a hobby and not a quasi job.

I come here and troll, rant or flame but all that aside between myself and another guy in here who's my boy, we have almost if not all of the top 5 north american players on our friends list. Play em often and believe me there's guys only online that would hold top 10.

I use another account like most do simply to avoid would be morons ruining what time I have to get down and play. I held top 10 NA for ever in super before I said what's the point of ranking? It kept resetting etc. I only find these guys in endless and I'd put my money on a few to run dieminion down like an excuse making chump.

Is he right? It's conjecture, his opinion and maybe a bit of pride talking. But let's face it there's an undiscovered plethora of talent lurking online only.

ButtHurtUSA, now hear this. Pride is one thing, REAL is another. Japan has ALWAYS been on top of the SF scene. If infiltration enters a full on Japan tourney, i bet big money he doesn't win it (not that he's not great). Heck, as many killers that are over there, Fuudo and Daigo may not win either.

That being said, one of the ONLY reasons USA has been competitive in SF is because of YouTube and streams. Tech and play styles come from Japan and many top players from here take it. No one from Japan takes any techs from ANY usa players. Period.

Now to Marvel. DUH - USA is the only country that plays Marvel until it recently caught on abroad. Now Tokido, Alioune, etc are on the heels - even single-handedly winning majors over here. If/when they decide to take Marvel, they will.

No fanboy here. Just REAL TALK.

You know why America can never be at Japan's level?

"I don't want to reveal it yet, I have a few tournaments to win." - Kevin Landon

Dieminion should keep this to himself if this is how he feels, but if this is how he feels then he will never win at any fg. Is he from the arcades? Doesn't sound like he is.

I feel its more about concentration and about sharing. I've read that the jpn community are very good about sharing their info and strategies with each other whereas america tends to be more about hiding strats to for better advantages.

As far as concentration, there are a lot of good players in america, but like Dieminion said, this country is big, so the talent is too far and in between. Online helps, but its not the best medium to get the closest arcade experience.

If you believe it, then its already true.

@jason24cf who cares if cdjr calls out the japanese, as if hes a top player in the games that the Japanese are interested in.

@jason24cf cdjr point is null and void, be infiltration always played akuma, not akuma, he picked up gouken over the past year.....

So he needs know what he is talkin about before he starts cryin...

And what America needs to learn is, you win the tourneys , not ur character!...and this is not t
A "tier don't matter " rant...

They do, but just like if you coached or owned a team, if ur player couldn't defend a "bad match-up you wouldn't leave him in there, you would switch things up......

Infiltration has it right, he plays characters against specific players or characters...that's the midnset we need to have, none of this loyalty crap

I meant he always played akuma , not gouken*, he picked up gouken over he past year or so....

@doriyaki DickLovingJapanWeaboos, now hear this. Pride is one thing, REAL is another. USA has ALWAYS been on top of the Marvel Vs scene. If infiltration enters a full on USA tourney(he's talked about picking up Marvel), I bet big money he doesn't win it (not that he's not a great FG player).
One of the ONLY reasons Japan has been competitive in Marvel is because of YouTube and streams. Tech and play styles come from USA and many top players from Japan take it.

Marvel recently caught on abroad. Tokido, Kusoru, have taken a SINGLE Major each, and done FUKC ALL since then in any American tournament. If/when they decide to take Marvel serious, they'll be exposed and blown up for the one hit wonders they were.

Please hop off the dick, you look ridiculous riding reverse cow girl. REAL TALK.

@39 You win this comment section.

How can an American be a Japanese Fanboy? The logic escapes me.

The Japanese are good but they are not invincible.

@Doryaki

If what you say about SF and Japan is true, then the Japanese will never beat the USA in Marvel. Other than the Log Trap incident, the USA has been the clear top dog in Marvel. The other countries don't have the scene and the Marvel following the USA does. For example, the Japanese had awesome tech at EVO but they lost to American fundamentals and the fact Americans better understood the game.

@18
Did you read my post and fully understand it? Japan might play Marvel but they don't invest their time in it. They could care less about a game that is nothing but fake hype and random BS and 100% combos.

@39
Nobody is riding Japan but whenever some stupid and butt hurt yet prideful patriotic American sees that Japan is the best they always bring up the only thing the American FGC is good at Marvel.
Well here's the skinny, Japan doesn't give two ****s about Marvel no matter how much you want to think they do so they are not gonna be good at a game they don't care to play.

@29
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCvrJ...
Kappa

@V3N0MB1T3

Japan usually only plays ARCADE games, umvc3 is not an arcade game. Fighting Games in GameCenters will always have a bigger following in Japan than console only. If mvc3 was an arcade game, just imagine the top BP/PP umvc3 match vids from japanese arcades that would be uploaded by YogaFlame24. America would be stealing WAY more than just NEMO's Strange tech.

im kinda tired of hearing about top tier characters as an excuse...Street Fighter is a competitive fighting game and a pretty balanced one at that, you have the choice to play or learn whatever character you want...its easy to sit around and complain about top tier characters, bottom line is it comes down to practice, execution, reads, reactions, spacing, adapting and so on its stupid to hear people complain about characters when they have the choice to use whoever they want to use...either learn counter picks or a top tier character or stop whining about it...basically it comes down to people with too much "character pride" or laziness making excuses about how their characters cant compete against so and so and they dont want to invest time to learn a new character or their execution was lacking that day or no match up knowledge...quit whining and learn/practive more...

poongko a very solid player using "the best character" in the game according to Dieminion got eliminated by him...so???? whats the big deal? play more learn more and broaden your horizons...anythin can happen in a tournament

#39 ButtHURT lolol! You mad??
YES, Kusuro came over and won a major. So did Tokido. TOOK America's GAME and WON it. Now name me ONE american who has EVER gone over and won a major SF tourney in Japan. SHut you the f' down bro.

Why you all so mad that Japan>USA in SF? Deal wit it. Heck, at this point, maybe Europe>USA as well. Alioune racked foolz up when he was on the east coast. EXPOSED ORtiz like a chump in the 25th tourney. USA SF is declining - tech is old, top players always got excuses for losing, etc, etc.

Diem is at least real. He never said he'll lose to a random japanese player - he said overall. And if a powerful player like him can only win just over half his PAID matches... you do the math.

Don't get mad at me, man. Cry inside.

@42

You say patriotic like its a bad thing.

@47

It is when its blind...

Lol @danny2times...

Your opinion is also null and void ,u sir are garbage!!

Lol that vid of you using Seth is hilarious !!..ur so bad

Dieminion said he had an upper tier character that he would eventually bust out that does good against the top tier characters. I'm really curious, who do you think he meant?

For those saying Dieminion is defeatist or will never beat Japan with that attitude you really just don't get it. I have spent time in Japan. In just one arcade in Tokyo Daigo, Mago, Nemo, and Kazunoko are there literally EVERYDAY for 4-6+ hours. The same arcade also hosts 5-6 other master level players and some lesser well known players like Bullcat and F*uckYun.

There is absolutely nothing in the US that can even compare to that level of competition constantly grinding against each other to get better. And that's just one arcade.

Until you have gone over there and seen how it is you really have nothing worthwhile to add to the discussion.

#42 you are a complete idiot. Japan has taken a strong interest in Marvel since the day Ultimate dropped and even have their own scene for it. Prior to that in Vanilla, Tokido won CEO & Shadowloo Showdown 2011, with Mago getting 2nd. Just because no one is doing anything noteworthy in the states doesn't mean they don't care. Your double standards are so retarded. I'm sure if Chou wins Final Round you'll be the first jackass to say Japan is superior in Marvel.

i agree w/ dieminion, unless you've been to Asia, you wouldn't understand

long story short, it's the arcade culture that gives Japan the edge over america

@doriyaki/shekeib/ya_boy I think you all missed the point behind my post. I specifically took doriyaki's hyperbole filled troll rant and merely changed the country order around. The only reason being to highlight how stupid and dumb sounding people that make those kind of rants are.

Not once did i mention that japan cares about marvel or not. Not once did I say it would be taken more seriously if it had an arcade version(although MvC 2 was in the arcades in japan and they still didnt have anything remotely matching the us tech wise) or not. And not once did I mention anything about SF at all. Hell, I feel the same way comparing America and Japan in SF as Dieminion does. But what i take point with in doriyaki's posts is that, while he uses logical thought out reasoning for why Japan is better in SF then the rest of the world, he then repeatedly turns around and abandons all logic when looking at the US scene in marvel. To him they win automatically based off the fact that they're Japanese. What kind of fukced up logic is that? The logic of a dickriding weaboo if you ask me.

Its actually pretty interesting how close the two scenes mirror on and other but only in reverse. The Japanese have always dominated at SF due to fan interest and accessibility of a large player pool. The same can be said of the marvel scene in the US. But no...no Japan is best waifu and thus will automatically win EVERYTHING they set their minds to even when their is practically NO evidence to support it. Sorry but fukc that logic and people who think like that. Nothing but ignorant trolling.

And while no american has gone to japan and taken a sf tournament Justin has gone to SB and taken marvel and he made it look free. Isai went to a Smash tournament (inb4 "smash ernt eeh fitun gaem") in Japan and blew them all up. And just yesterday Mad KOF, evo2k13 champion of KoFXIII, went to Japan and went on a 4 character comeback tirade to beat japan in KoF III 5v5 against the best they had. And thats a game that fits everyone of your dumbass its an arcade game/its a game the Japanese are interested in/its a game the japanese dominate in bs reasonings. So I'll repeat myself. Hop of that cock gentlemen. You look so stupid.

@51

Give it a rest, most of the people here are blind to the truth, i havent even seen such naive confidence from houston texan fans. They hold onto marvel like it's their golden egg of redemption even though it is without a doubt the least legit fighting game capcom has ever made.

It's the damn angry birds and CoD of fighters, and these sad scrubs are proud that america is great at it. Pathetic.

@55 How bout you give it a rest. It must be nice to be so completely naive and retarded to the point where you only see what you want to see and hear what you want to hear. NO WHERE in #51's comment was there anything alluding to Marvel at all. And that "cod of fighters" you so casually pass off, had the highest view count at evo and continues to be the most watched thing currently on streams. It brings the hype, it brings the competition, and it brings a lot of highly skilled players that continue to grind at it and consistently place in top 8 like Chris G, IFC Yipes, Justin Wong, F Champ, and PR Rog. So refresh my memory what exactly about it is not "legit" aside from the fact that its your subjective opinion on the matter?

#54 - you STILL mad bro?? lol

Listen, in part, it IS because they are japanese. It's a cultural thing - they generally don't take offense to losing, they don't make excuses to losing, they freely admit that another player is or played better, they freely admit they need more practice, they also admit that they practice very hard and long.

For some reason, most players in USA have an excuse about losing (bad matchup, tier, didn't practice, blah blah), they hardly ever admit someone is/was better, they never admit to practicing (although they play 8 hours a day and you can tell because of how fat they are getting), etc, etc.

TELL ME I'M WRONG. ??? By not making excuses, you go back and practice more and try harder and learn from your mistakes. That's the mentality. Only a few players here (like Diem) do that. The rest say they were "trying out something new," or didn't practice much, or broke their finger, or didn't get any rest or whatever bull'ish makes them feel better about their existence. It's the same exact reason this pill is too hard for you to swallow - good ol' american pride. lol

YES - that's part of why Japan>USA. Of course you would have no idea about this because you may have never been exposed to asian culture. You're forgiven. Now move along - nothing to see here.

let me add... Like this CDjr dude. Big mouth - half a brain. I listened to half the interview and decided it was trash. He's the typical USA player (albeit MK) - he thinks he would be top 5 in the WORLD if he practiced, gives more credit to people who use non-popular characters, has excuses for losing to Snafoo, etc.

"Yes, you DID cut down that tree in 10 seconds with a chainsaw... but I cut it down in two days with a steak knife... so I'm actually better than you are." lol What a retard.

In fighting games, you pick the "tool" you decide that you like and can use the best and you go with it. No excuses. If Diem runs Guile - good for him cuz that's his choice. Oh, and where's Daigo's props for wrecking 99% of the world with Ryu??

Back to my point - pride is sometimes ignorant and hampers progress.

It's always kinda funny to see how many people fall back on the "Normal people don't play 8 hours a day!" line. That so sounds like salty guys on Xbox Live who, when they get beat, send hate mail saying how much the other player sucks because they clearly have no life and had too much time to practice the game.

Secret: when Justin Wong was at the top of his game in MvC2, he didn't play or practice 8 hours a day. By his own accounts his average daily play time was significantly less than that.

Likewise most top Japanese players have things called jobs, have other things to do, and a social life. They're not sitting in arcades 8 - 12 hours a day 7 days a week. The difference is merely quality of access. Most of the time they do spend is playing offline against local competition. None of this is rocket science folks. It's not because the Japanese are magically better; it's not even a cultural thing for the most part. It's pure logistics. They have access to offline, real world games and a huge variety of comp due to arcade traffic. Most American players don't anymore. There's not a lot to be done about it.

@51

Typical Japanese Fan logic.

"If the USA is better than Japan at it, then the thing the USA is good at must be bad, thus Japan is better because it isn't as good as the USA at the thing that is bad."

This circular logic is painful, yet some stick by it. You would be the first one to put the USA on blast if Japan won EVO 2013 UMVC3.

#59 - not true - sorry Charlie.

Figure this - PRRog and FChamp roommates (i believe). Played against each other and all their buddies all day long. Meet up with ChrisG and get manhandled. Logistics??? really?

Naw. It's cuz ChrisG is an innovator and is at the top of his game. Logistics aren't the answer you slumlords. It's just an excuse. Sure, I don't deny you'd get more exposure and a little experience. But that's about all you're going to get.

Didn't "Air" ryu go to Japan for a long time. No disrespect but he wasn't in top 25 at EVO was he (ever)? Um... logistics???
Wolfkrone is pretty darn good. Logistics??

So don't use logistics as a scapegoat Ladies. Just don't.

Point proven.

Saying Japan doesn't invest time in Marvel is BS. Anyone who thinks that obviously just pulled that out their ***. I have seen them play for hours on end, training competitively and playing for fun as well. Marvel players in Japan do take many games seriously. Just because SF is their main concentration doesn't mean they ignore other games. That's a fact. Hop off if you please.

@54
UMvC3 in US and SSF4 in Japan does not mirror each other at all.

SSF4 is popular in both Japan and US. It has regular major tournaments and a thriving online scene in both countries.

UMvC3 is only popular in US but considered a kuso game in Japan. While US has regular major tournaments and a thriving online scene, Japan had none of that.

@62
No one in Japan took MvC3 as seriously as US when Tokido and Kusoru won their respective majors.

Gundam, Persona and Tekken are more popular than Street Fighter in the arcades. So, I wouldn't call it their main game though I agree that Japan plays just about every fighting game ever released there.

Also, here are a few of things I have witnessed.

Me: Japan can compete with US in MvC3.
Someone: US will crush Japan in MvC3 just because they did it in MvC2 ten years ago.
Fact: Tokido and Kusoru each won a major against some of the best US players.

Me: US winning UMvC3 at SBO is not the same as winning SF at SBO.
Someone: Winning UMvC3 means US can beat Japan and win SF at SBO someday!
Dieminion: I don't think America can reach Japan's level in the Street Fighter 4 series
Someone: Forget SF, UMvC3 is what matters.

Lol.

People can't seem to get it into their thick skulls.

Typical US mentality to blame other factors instead of your lack of skill. That's the American way, to blame others instead of blaming yourself.

It's really sad and pathetic but, that's the American way. Not just in games but in life.

You think Daigo blamed other factors when he got bodied by Infiltration at EVO and 25th anniversary? No, he blamed himself.

America doesn't take responsibility for their own weaknesses/faults. They blame every other factor they can think of.

America's not good because the community is so spread out and there's online lag? You serious? What other excuse can you make? Oh, how about Japan/Korea wins because they use cheap top tier characters? You serious?

Now this next point I'm going to make is going to make all of your excuses look stupid as hell.

KOREA HAS NO STREET FIGHTER SCENE. There are no arcades in Korea (almost all of them shut down and there is literally a handful left. Those handful that do have Street fighter only have 1 machine).

Korea's street fighter scene is Infiltration, Poongko, and Laugh. Great scene Korea's got. No one plays SF in Korea. Everyone plays Tekken.

So how the EFF is Infiltration destroying everyone and winning all the tournaments? Let me guess, you're going to say he plays online with some Japanese players? Ohhhh, that online you mean, where there is lag. Yeah, that online. I live in Korea currently and playing online with Japan is not optimal. Lot's of lag.

So tell me how is Infiltration doing so well? Practice, dedication, studying the game, etc.

Seriously, stop making excuses about top tier, online lag, no community.

According to people's excuses, Infiltration should be garbage because Korea has absolutely no SF scene and has online lag.

@56

Waste of time explaining even though i could right you a damn paper.

"Brings the hype" Lol you mean brings the scrubs. MvC is a game made to appeal casuals by a company that is admittedly trying to be make their games more casual, in which competitive players can take advantage of. In all honesty i could argue the same exact aspect when comparing to smash brothers.

Still i don't really have hate for the game, it is a work of genius.

@chaoslimits
@ipadninja

Yeah not gonna say that was some gdlk play. It was posted 8/11 also turds. Moved back to my vanilla main since. Never said I was or am top tourney level. But if you think you're gonna beat me shoot the invite over. At least chaoslimits lists his gamer tag.

Ill shoot both of you scrubs an invite/request lets see how gdlk you guys are. Also can't wait to see the trophies too. Wonder if I'm dealing with 2 little scrubs that got owned by yours truly and are so angry they follow me? Guess being the psn bad boy as you scrubs say has payed off lol!

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I thought this was common knowledge...?

America isn't BAD, but our best just don't measure up to their best.

@65
well said and im american its true.

Maybe people could actually stand a chance against their rivals if they would stop making excuses.

@65
I was going to bring up Korea but you did a much better job than I ever could. Kudos to you.

America has too much 'pride' to tier whore to catch up to Japan Kappa, then you look at their Marvel scene and then oh crap, shots fired. On top of that there are those ignorant players who thinks they are good and know about the games but really don't, the word modest never appeared in their mind, the FGC culture, bad attitude, mentality, are all the factors.

Btw, LOL at Danny2times got blown up by that vid yet again, exactly what I was talking about, guess I wasn't the only one, and he actually brought up the trophy rubbish like Aluppoj did to boot lol, hilarious. You think players like Daigo or infiltration actually cares about psn trophies? Got 100% myself, didn't know that was a thing to brag about, also got 154/154 GGXXA+ gallery, look at me I'm super pro, nop, I know what the words 'modest' and 'dignity' actually means.

All the times the word 'dick' was mentioned here is making me hungry. Kreygasm

Reverse cowgirl position?! Kreygasm Kreygasm Kreygasm

@63 your an idiot if you think JPN does not have a thriving online Marvel scene.

Screw SSFIV.

I just have to disagree with Dieminion here with his assertion of characters determining wins. I think he's taking it too far. For nearly the entire interview he's constantly harping on character choice as the end all be all.

post of the century

#65 JoeBlow

"People can't seem to get it into their thick skulls.

Typical US mentality to blame other factors instead of your lack of skill. That's the American way, to blame others instead of blaming yourself.

It's really sad and pathetic but, that's the American way. Not just in games but in life.

You think Daigo blamed other factors when he got bodied by Infiltration at EVO and 25th anniversary? No, he blamed himself.

America doesn't take responsibility for their own weaknesses/faults. They blame every other factor they can think of.

America's not good because the community is so spread out and there's online lag? You serious? What other excuse can you make? Oh, how about Japan/Korea wins because they use cheap top tier characters? You serious?

Now this next point I'm going to make is going to make all of your excuses look stupid as hell.

KOREA HAS NO STREET FIGHTER SCENE. There are no arcades in Korea (almost all of them shut down and there is literally a handful left. Those handful that do have Street fighter only have 1 machine).

Korea's street fighter scene is Infiltration, Poongko, and Laugh. Great scene Korea's got. No one plays SF in Korea. Everyone plays Tekken.

So how the EFF is Infiltration destroying everyone and winning all the tournaments? Let me guess, you're going to say he plays online with some Japanese players? Ohhhh, that online you mean, where there is lag. Yeah, that online. I live in Korea currently and playing online with Japan is not optimal. Lot's of lag.

So tell me how is Infiltration doing so well? Practice, dedication, studying the game, etc.

Seriously, stop making excuses about top tier, online lag, no community.

According to people's excuses, Infiltration should be garbage because Korea has absolutely no SF scene and has online lag."

@54
"evo2k13 champion of KoFXIII, went to Japan and went on a 4 character comeback tirade to beat japan in KoF III 5v5 against the best they had."

Are you joking, give me proof of your statements, about this so called 5vs5 against the best japanese players.

The only video i know of, showing the best Jp players and Korean players, is about a gamespot versus, where Shoki, Haregoro and Koukou, completely obliterated MadKOF and his freinds.

Do you even know the tops 5 KOF players in Japan, let me tell you something MadKof is not even close to the top 10 level in Japan.

As for Dieminion point of view.

This has noting to do with, Logistics, online or the Scene.

This is mainly due to the existence of different approaches, allow me to explain myself:
The way Asian people approach the game is different, it is more meticulous, they give too much importance to details.

Simply put, an Asian think more of a way to master the various aspects of a game before anything, while americans will simply try to come across a "wining method" , without seeking to deepen their knowledge.

It is a question of "approach" no more.

The best example is Sako, he never play in the Arcade, he's just à training mode addict.

@78 but their is truth to it. Some characters have a advantage over another character. Did you forget in vanilla it was like 8-2 in favor of Sagat over Gief? Some characters do have a hard time dealing with other characters, Guile is one of those characters because for 1, his flash kick won't autocorrect and he has to eat wakeup pressure. Lets not forget the glitch Guile has where he has 1 more frame on his stand animation which allows for more unblockable setups against him after a knockdown.

It's a very valid argument.

IF YOU WANT TO BE CONSISTANT AT FIGHTING GAMES YOU NEEE TO EITHER PICK A TOP TIER CHARACTER OR COUNTER PICK PEOPLE.

However, if you want to be a character loyalist, you need to understand that you have to work a lot harder than most people to be consistent.

Can someone please explain to me why people from the USA bash THEIR OWN COUNTRY and dickride Japan? I'm not understanding this.

@illness690
maybe because in the grand scheme of things, honesty >>> loyalism .

@82
I didn't say that match-ups didn't exist. I said that he's taking it too far. Using a "better" character will always take a backseat to being a better player, at least in SF4. He even ignored the part of the interviewer's question about Infiltration using Gouken and focused on him using Akuma. If Kuroda uses Q, no one on this Earth can cry about bad match-ups.

#80 - the KOF event was a recent one and MadKOF is a beast even in Japan standards. He made a comeback for team Korea and won it dramatically. Vid just out the other day on YouTube. However, just FYI - they apparently had a tourney just before this "main event" and the first player on the jpn team won it. So... make what you want of it.

#13
Who's dickriding who now? lol Be realistic dude.

Japanese fanboy troll logic: If Japan dominates a scene, America sucks. If any other country dominates a game(KOF, Marvel) then Japan doesn't care about it. But wait, there's more! If Japan wins in the aforementioned games once a year, America is free and Japan was superior the whole time.

....truth hurts, I guess.

I have no problem admitting when someone is better than me. It just gives me more incentive to work harder to get better. I don't really have a character loyalty. I just have a certain way that I like to play. For me I prefer rushdown with the objective of getting you to the corner and pinning you there. So I just look for characters that are good at doing just that and pick the best one/one that fits my playstyle the best and go from there. But hey if Japan is seen as better right now then that should mean that America needs to put forth some effort to prove that wrong. It may be difficult but I believe we can do it.

@86 I am the interviewer, I was off on my facts on who Infiltration used firs. He did main Akuma and Ryu prior to Gouken.

@illness690

Maybe because, people here are not from US, hmm..

@92
I was aware of that too, I'm only referring to how he ignored that part of the question. It just seemed strange is all.

@87

Give a link or SU, the truth is a 5VS5 like you state never took place, don't give misinformations to people.

The only confrontation between Korea and japan was a team battle in gamespot versus, where the Korean got to start with five lives against 20 players from japan, most of them only wanderers, passing by.

Only 3 players from japan were top level, Shoki, Koukou, and Heregoro.

Here enjoy yourself and see how shoki Bodied team Korea 3 times in row :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ykEQt...

@95 there was a 5v5 between Korea and Japan that happened this week here it is, and MadKOF did win it for Korea

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=...

@95 - yo, you're talking about that October event. We're talking about V-1 Final. Welcome to 2013 homey. You can post your foot in mouth below. Thanks!

@V3N0MB1T3

"But what i take point with in doriyaki's posts is that, while he uses logical thought out reasoning for why Japan is better in SF then the rest of the world, he then repeatedly turns around and abandons all logic when looking at the US scene in marvel. To him they win automatically based off the fact that they're Japanese. What kind of fukced up logic is that? The logic of a dickriding weaboo if you ask me. Its actually pretty interesting how close the two scenes mirror on and other but only in reverse. The Japanese have always dominated at SF due to fan interest and accessibility of a large player pool. The same can be said of the marvel scene in the US. But no...no Japan is best waifu and thus will automatically win EVERYTHING they set their minds to even when their is practically NO evidence to support it."

The comparisons of the two scenes is not the same though. There is very little interest in marvel in Japan. But there is a LOT of interest in SF4 in the US and around the world. The US has fallen short, despite having a huge interest. Japan may or may not be on the level of the US (in terms of total amount of top players) but Japan's best players are on the level, or better, than America's top players, despite an overall lack of interest in Marvel in Japan.

"And just yesterday Mad KOF, evo2k13 champion of KoFXIII, went to Japan and went on a 4 character comeback tirade to beat japan in KoF III 5v5 against the best they had. And thats a game that fits everyone of your dumbass its an arcade game/its a game the Japanese are interested in/its a game the japanese dominate in bs reasonings. So I'll repeat myself. Hop of that cock gentlemen. You look so stupid."

Eh, Madkof did make a runback to take it for Korea, 5-4 in that set. But they had two 2on2 tournaments in Japan where cafe ID entered (3 korean teams). In the first 2on2, no korean team got further than top 8, and they got dominated in the top 8. In the second one, both korean teams got top 4, but in the end they were dominated.

I think some people are in denial because they are tired of hearing/seeing Japan being considered the best, so they try to downplay them any opportunity they can get.

The reality is that Japan is the best in AE, best in kof13 and pretty much the best in any random game that they invest time into.

And ugh, made a typo...

I meant to say:

The comparisons of the two scenes is not the same though. There is very little interest in marvel in Japan. But there is a LOT of interest in SF4 in the US and around the world. The US has fallen short in SF4, despite having a huge interest. Japan may or may not be on the level of the US in Marvel (in terms of total amount of top players) but Japan's best players are on the level, or better, than America's top players, despite an overall lack of interest in Marvel in Japan.

Japan puts in more time into SF than US
Japan has a lot less stream monsters
Japan doesn't give one yen if you are pro, they play you for skill and take u to the limit
Japan has arcades that people spend 6+ hours playing different calibre of players in a lagless environment
Japan still bodies US in US tournaments
Japan believe in evolving, US believes tier lists
Japan seeks to overcome, US seeks to give excuse
Japan takes risks, US calls it meter management
Japan share info, US hordes it most of the time
Japan has better online, US has a huge ass geography to cover
Japan can walk 30 minutes to an arcade, US can't walk 15 minutes if there's stream
Ok I stop now.... *picks up flame shield