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Capcom talks about punishments for leaking info - employees that leak details before release are subject to immediate termination

Posted by DreamKing23
February 20, 2013 at 10:02 a.m. PST
Capcom talks about punishments for leaking info - employees that leak details before release are subject to immediate termination Recently, a reader over on the Ask Capcom forum created a thread asking about leaking game information before it is officially released.

The question focuses specifically on what keeps Capcom employees from releasing information unofficially and what are the consequences for doing so. Over the years we have seen several character and information leaks hit the internet before they were meant to.

Back in July of 2011, character art for the Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 characters was accidentally released on Capcom's website. Going even further back, in late '09 we saw a list of rumors for Super Street Fighter 4 in which many of the additions and changes turned out to be true.

Sven addressed the user's question and gave a bit of insight on the subject of game leaks and what events may occur if employees decide to leak information, such as the examples above.

Below is a bit of Sven's response. Hit the jump to see the rest.

I think there's several elements:

1. Professionalism. In general, people are "good" and want to act professionally, which would mean being trustworthy and not betraying confidences.

2. Our employment agreement includes an NDA. Violating it provides grounds for immediate termination. Our industry is VERY small. If you were terminated for such an activity, your ability to get future jobs, which typically require recommendations/references and explanations for why you left your last position, could be very impaired. I won't even mention potential legal exposure if damages are demonstrable.

And Internet anonymity isn't nearly as anonymous as you think is. Everything is tracked and it's not terribly difficult to narrow down who had access to certain information to and what possible vectors for compromise exist.

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ZOMBIEMEGAMAN said on February 20, 2013 at 10:04 a.m.

What's to leak? Capcom doesn't make games anymore other than SF games they're an overhyped video game publisher at this point.

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alfarin said on February 20, 2013 at 10:11 a.m.

That's fair.

Hey, everyone remember the fake SFxT leak lists?

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Mochawhitey said on February 20, 2013 at 10:13 a.m.

@ 1 still salty about Mega Man?

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xanderglz said on February 20, 2013 at 10:14 a.m.

#1 don't forget that Resident Evil shît they insist to shove on people's throats day in and day out.

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Cinderkin said on February 20, 2013 at 10:14 a.m.

I remember The SFxT leaks like they were yesterday and they were posted right on Capcom Unity webpage. Pretty pathetic if you ask me.

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alfarin said on February 20, 2013 at 10:14 a.m.

@3 Welcome to the internet, where people can't let anything go (even though the ungrateful buggars just got a FREE megaman game)

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Pingu21 said on February 20, 2013 at 10:18 a.m.

Yeah but I hope they don't put accidental and on purpose leaks together.
For example the UMvC3 one was a mistake, of course it was huge but still, so its culprit should be punished but not as much as people that just release information for money or for being "cool".

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Smorgasboard said on February 20, 2013 at 10:20 a.m.

@1
What? Monster Hunter Tri, Resident Evil and Devil May Cry are Capcom's real money maker. Heck, lost planet and dragons dogma make more money than their fighting games. They survived 10 years with out SF, they can survive another 10.

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SilentBob said on February 20, 2013 at 10:20 a.m.

@6

That Mega Man game wasn't even made by Capcom. It was a fan game that ended up getting support from Capcom before it got released. Capcom support or not, it would have been released for free anyways.

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Bustahwurf said on February 20, 2013 at 10:22 a.m.

If you want a new Megam Man game these days you gotta make it yourself #Kappa

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Batsu said on February 20, 2013 at 10:23 a.m.

that pic for this story is hilarious.

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DevilMaySpy said on February 20, 2013 at 10:23 a.m.

@2: To be fair, the list was quite accurate for being leaked 4 months before release.

http://www.capcom-unity.com/street_fi...

Whatever happened to Lupinko anyway?

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BigFleccs said on February 20, 2013 at 10:24 a.m.

Mega Man? to play with my keyboard no thx!

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illness690 said on February 20, 2013 at 10:24 a.m.

@1 The butthurt is strong in this one.

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alfarin said on February 20, 2013 at 10:25 a.m.

@ 6 - you got a free game that got the original devs support instead of being hit with a cease and desist. Be grateful.

@ 12 - Probably dead, in a ditch with the words "CAPCOWNED" etched into his forehead with a knife

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HyperViperNZ said on February 20, 2013 at 10:28 a.m.

This is fair. But you can never really tell what leaks are real or just someone trying to get attention anyway.

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SilentBob said on February 20, 2013 at 10:30 a.m.

@15
Capcom never sends a cease and desist to any fan game. That's pretty much one of the only good things left in the company which will probably change if their administration changes. Either way the point isn't about dev support, it's about Capcom no longer making quality products or listening to their fans. You know your company has a problem if some of the only good things coming out of your company is from fans making things for you for free.

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eiSH said on February 20, 2013 at 10:35 a.m.

"1. Professionalism. In general, people are "good" and want to act professionally, which would mean being trustworthy and not betraying confidences."

::Sells us an Alpha version of SFxT::
::Sells us Pay-to-Win Gems::
::Sells us On-Disc Characters::
::Sells us On-Disc Costumes::
::Realizes SFxT Alpha sucks so updates it to Beta so they can sell more gems::

You sold us out a long time ago Cashcom.

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illness690 said on February 20, 2013 at 10:39 a.m.

@18 Cry more.

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gtfopanda said on February 20, 2013 at 10:44 a.m.

@ #19

And yet my DLC characters aren't working, my colors aren't working, online play is broken and the game is still patched to 1.06.

I'd happily cope with the DLC bullsh*t if at least the game worked as intended and was fully supported.

But yeah, people are just crying right?

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Mochawhitey said on February 20, 2013 at 10:53 a.m.

@ 20. My game works just fine :)

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danny2times said on February 20, 2013 at 10:53 a.m.

My shop built 3 of the transformer cars for the 2nd film and a couple idiots stayed late one night to snag a couple pics for their FB page. FBI got involved, prosecuted them big time. Fines over 50k jail time and yeah, try working in a fab shop that makes movie cars again. Hell I have to put stickers over my phones cameras or leave it in the jeep. Big time trouble, but some info can be sold for large amounts of money, but not worth it at all.

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Terrorzone said on February 20, 2013 at 10:58 a.m.

-SFxT is hella average
-RE6 was mediocre;
-So was DmC (sadly), already has DLC which could've been on-disc free contect (BUT NAH, LET ME MILK YOU SOME MORE BRO)
-SSF4 is getting boring(as opposed to 3rd Strike).

and

-UMVC3 has a boring cast, putting MODOK aside.. hence everyone crying out for an update.

Think I have every right to cry.

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AnaboliChris said on February 20, 2013 at 11 a.m.

#18, bahahah

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Mochawhitey said on February 20, 2013 at 11:15 a.m.

@ 23 opinions don't equal facts. Get your life together

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KingKong said on February 20, 2013 at 11:17 a.m.

standard operating procedure.

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MALDA_IS_BACK said on February 20, 2013 at 11:18 a.m.

The only good fighting game capcom have done was SSF4 the rest was a joke in my opinion.this gen sucks when Capcom makes game old school capcom was so much better

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Strider_Hien said on February 20, 2013 at 11:25 a.m.

@27 So.....SSF Turbo,SFA series,The Marvel Series(from COTA to MVC2)and Rival Schools/Justice Series are a joke?!?!?!?!?!

Hold on one second.....Ah,here it is....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCNrK...

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gtfopanda said on February 20, 2013 at 11:31 a.m.

@ #21

Lol sorry, forgot to add that was about the PC version of SFxT.

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MALDA_IS_BACK said on February 20, 2013 at 11:31 a.m.

@28

I said the fighting games of this Gen sucks that Capcom made not back then you fool I'm talking about UMC3 and SFXT suck in my opinion

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MALDA_IS_BACK said on February 20, 2013 at 11:36 a.m.

Wait I forgot about TVC for the Win that was a good game

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Donald_K_Bahls said on February 20, 2013 at 11:38 a.m.

Dem vectors for compromise. I see yo vectors biych.

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tomotombo said on February 20, 2013 at 11:53 a.m.

Thats so lame who actually cares about leak list anyway it just gets people hyped for the game. I say it aint all thay serious game companys should ne more laid back not all anal about things like this if it happens it happens goodness its not making or brealing sells poor quality games are. Example why is sfxt horrible,why is sf4 worse than sf3. Why is resi 5 graphics better than 6. Why is mvc origins lacking games it should have . Bu tv I rathed play 1 and 2 than to play mvc3. Not that its a bad gams but because they made alot of poor decisions then want me to pay$20 for outfits n to see zero dressed like megaman,yeah right!!!!!!!!!! Its been far past the time they dropped the price of all the dlc they have.not talkin bout sales either.stop patch balancing just stop o goodness. work on your quality capcom stop half doin stuff. Everyone demands you product because they kno they quality can be better.

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ChipsLight said on February 20, 2013 at noon

"OMG AKUMA DID YOU LEAK YOUR PARTICIPATION INTO THE GAME ?!"
"Dude, it was obvious I was going to be in, don't b-"
"TERMINATION !

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HiryuMK said on February 20, 2013 at 12:05 p.m.

Wasn't it Lupinko who did all the leaks?

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Portal23 said on February 20, 2013 at 12:10 p.m.

Great now we can't get any leak information how they are going to scam us.

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OhYouDontSayThat said on February 20, 2013 at 12:13 p.m.

@15
you replied to yourself.... META

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chipndip said on February 20, 2013 at 12:14 p.m.

People are taking OPINION about what they don't like from Capcom and scrubbing FACTS of what Capcom actually did that's beneficial to the FGC. It's a bit pathetic.

Going deeper:

a) Everyone and their fking G-Ma has done on-disc dlc already. If you whine about one title's "dlc", most likely there's another one that you already paid for in another game. Only exclusion so far are Nintendo's games. They did it a few times. It blew up in their faces. How they'll handle it further down the line, I don't know, but even then, other companies (even Sega for crying out loud) utilized/are utilizing on-disc dlc. It's NOT just Capcom, so lets stop acting like it is.

b) No one remembers the 3 events Capcom's held? The free game given to us over the free C&D that could have been? Them attempting to fight for UMVC3 updates PURELY out of fans asking for it (and a lil $$$, but let's face it, they don't have to even entertain you with even a message on the subject)? Hiring FGC members for job opportunities? Adding new mechanics into each fighter they churn out instead of the usual "kind of like MvC, but THIS game's got this too" crap that other 2D fighters poofs up on a regular? Finally trying to bring more Monster Hunter to the West? Letting Brazil have a taste of that 25th Anniversary hype when they could've just left them? Making fighting games more accessible, and thus more popular? Reviving fighting games in general? I mean, look how big this paragraph got and all I'm doing is listing crap with one extended sentence in parenthesis, and this one explaining it. What other company's ever been this close to its fans, and what company can make a paragraph even close to this size? Come on, give it a try.

c) Saying "oh, this game wasn't good enough for me" isn't a negative on the company's part, although SF X TKN's release and how it was handled was indeed a major negative (that was too much hype shot in the leg there). Still, your personal view on how good a game is isn't a negative for the company in question unless it's significant enough to make a case for it. The issue is that most people that hate on DmC can't do this, because the game's solid enough to not have any major complaints. SF X TKN's been patched relentlessly and it's been getting positive feedback and respectable criticism unlike before where it was just insane hate all day ere day, and RE's trying to survive in a day and age where even Dead Space can't stay true to its horror routes. I mean, Dead Space of all games...

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Graphf said on February 20, 2013 at 12:16 p.m.

I have an account on Unity and this is hella old. I'm guessing whoever found this had to dig through the threads for it.

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Chrisuchiwa said on February 20, 2013 at 12:18 p.m.

@Malda; you are so right, In Malda we believe, you are Jesus, Mohammed or someone like them. Happy Now?

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sarif2soon said on February 20, 2013 at 12:28 p.m.

@17
"it's about Capcom no longer making quality products or listening to their fans"
yeah, i wish they did ports of older games with online play like the fans want and tone down OP techs in current games like SFxT and AE. oh, wait...
confirmed troll.
smack dat 10 hour trolololo here

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lukecage83 said on February 20, 2013 at 12:30 p.m.

@4

Resident Evil is a great series...well between the original and 4. 5 (while I still enjoyed the game), I will admit was pushing it, but 6 just knocked the series off the mountain top! It's the only RE game I haven't felt compelled to finish. The only "campaign" (I hate that f--kin word) I completed was Leon's. Can't wait to try RE:R on PS3. Never got to play it, but I hear they kinda went back to the roots of RE.

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Chrisuchiwa said on February 20, 2013 at 12:31 p.m.

I can't believe people continue to cry obout DLC stuff on Disc. Come on guys, don't act like.... Most of people here are men so, get over that. Next month will be the 1st anniversary of SFxT and some children continue to whine? For some bison bucks?

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lukecage83 said on February 20, 2013 at 12:36 p.m.

@MALDA

AGREED! SSFIV is the last great fighting game they made IMHO. Tried to get in SFxT2013, but I genuinely do not like the game. I gave up on the MvC series after 2 (but I'll gladly play 2 over 3). Tried to get into Marvel 3, but that game is just utter ridiculousness. So with me, it's SSFIV, and all SF games before it (except the EX series).

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Chrisuchiwa said on February 20, 2013 at 12:46 p.m.

@Chipndip, I think this guy is right. I remember 25th SF anniversary was free for anyone wanting to enter the tourney.
Prizes were pretty good from top 16 (150$) to the 1st place (2500$)+ a airplane ticket.
We can say Capcom already paid for all scandals they did with SFxT

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alfarin said on February 20, 2013 at 12:47 p.m.

@17 because SFxT2013 even happening isn't proof alone that they listen

I swear, a lot of people are just plain mentally handicapped

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xShonuffx said on February 20, 2013 at 12:55 p.m.

@38 Ok man we get it but some of the things you said were a bit of a stretch.

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MALDA_IS_BACK said on February 20, 2013 at 1 p.m.

@Chrissuchiwa

Happy for what I'm just giving my opinion your all making a big deal for no reason

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Mac_Gargan said on February 20, 2013 at 1:08 p.m.


THEY ALREADY SAID on-disc DLC was a failed experiment. We won. Now, it's in the past for CAPCOM, and us, and how great is it that they listened!?

@23, Terrorzone, you are the first person besides mwah, who understands that MODOK is the only character dripping with personality in all of the new cast! So true. As soon as someone bitches about MODOK being in, they are in the idiot zone to me.

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roknin said on February 20, 2013 at 1:24 p.m.

@38 - Pretty much agreed - going to fall on deaf ears I'm sure, but all good points.

To the actual topic - is this really surprising to anyone? When you get hired literally ANYWHERE that has a product that is "hush hush", especially in entertainment and/or electronics, you'll be signing an NDA that pretty much gives them the right to punch you in the nuts repeatedly for talking about it. Those leaks don't seem damaging on the surface, but they are to a business, especially if they have things like events or marketing plans to reveal those things.

They're *usually* hype to fans, but that is still a double-edged sword, and even that hype isn't guaranteed (and honestly usually is the opposite).

Personally I wouldn't want to leak a damn thing for the sake of my career. Word of mouth can be very damaging to finding a future gig even if you somehow are not fired.

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TrueGamingGuru said on February 20, 2013 at 1:27 p.m.

When comes to videogame business in general, alot of things happen.

When it comes to fighter games, they're not getting proper treatment when comes to testing the game out and always targeting the release date which the console market is causing this unbalancement when it comes to fighter games. Every Fighter Game needs to be tested out differently, places like E3 Comicon Tokyo Game Show etc. don't help the required balance that arcades & betas do well.

For DLC in general, DLC/Expansion Packs were always meant to be paid since 1990s with PC games and Expansion Packs. DLC is something that adds more content, even not having stuff being left behind and end up being unuse content. When it comes to Disc-Locked content, stuff was always meant to be locked away since the early years of gaming even Arcades had something called Time release which has certain characters locked away until you let the Arcade run on for days even months, even within the cartridge and disc there will always be stuff inside which sever the purpose of content that was suppose to be or left out content. When comes to DLC & Disc Locked together, this Disc Locked content as DLC was going for quite awhile Capcom isn't alone with this other companies have been doing this. Since certain years there have been times where the DLC doesn't work proper or there are times that the person who didn't buy the DLC will be cutoff from other gamers that bought the DLC, the Disc Locked method is the way that even if certain people didn't buy the DLC they can still play with other people that bought DLC. When comes to decision with how much the DLC cost, it will always be up to Sony & Microsoft with their online stores.

When comes to Capcom fan request, there have been plently of certain news topics that Capcom is willing to take requests from patching games even bring the games back or make a new game that hasn't got a game in awhile, trust me there is certain news that makes it proof.

Another thing is that part of the problem with Capcom is the Japanese Gaming Companies in general, which the Japanese Gaming are struggling and are far behind when comes to games. Even the Japanese are trying way too hard to please the Western Countries, even involving betraying their own culture and themselves.

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Nader886 said on February 20, 2013 at 1:48 p.m.

@10 you made my day lmao

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RA_MO said on February 20, 2013 at 1:57 p.m.

It worries me that we are just getting in an age where games in general will just never satisfy anyone's expectations and begin to die out. I really hope that never happens but I think to ensure it, we should take the good and the bad of each game in. I mean it pretty much happened to Capcom's fighting games before... If this continues, history may indeed repeat itself.

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RedRapperSux said on February 20, 2013 at 2:04 p.m.

I spy my favorite Eventhubs user just HAWKING this comment section. XD

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Grimmjow_J said on February 20, 2013 at 3:01 p.m.

You know what? I've yet to see so much negative reaction from the Tekken house. It's crazy how the same company that revitalize the FGC Capcom. Has also stirred up so much animosity. Who comes to mind at a time like this is Katsuriho Hharada-San just the loyalty from his part, and continuous customers satisfaction. I would like to say, Thank for keep it ''REAL''!

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godfist314 said on February 20, 2013 at 3:47 p.m.

And Internet anonymity isn't nearly as anonymous as you think is. Everything is tracked and it's not terribly difficult to narrow down who had access to certain information to and what possible vectors for compromise exist.

Sure, in this case catching a few employees who leak info is easy because they're single individuals and their internet activity of leaking easily stands out.

Now the millions of people that pirate Capcom games? You can track that all day long and try to find out who it is but 1. That's millions of people to catch and 2. "Everything is tracked"? That doesn't sound constitutional to me.

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Cyan said on February 20, 2013 at 3:48 p.m.

"immediate termination"

http://www.bz-berlin.de/multimedia/ar...

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iweuisdgwj said on February 20, 2013 at 4:55 p.m.

(This user was banned.)

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Ex_Ein said on February 20, 2013 at 6:21 p.m.

@article As it should be done
I'm tired of leak list, I want a god damn suprise!

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Vinxthegamer said on February 20, 2013 at 10:26 p.m.

@38, i hope you don't expect me to read all that lol

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TheDeadTexan said on February 21, 2013 at 12:40 a.m.

I was fired from Capcom for leaking the UMvC3 news. Hope you guys enjoyed it.

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sarif2soon said on February 21, 2013 at 6:24 a.m.

@54
and who would that be?

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Raven said on February 21, 2013 at 2:06 p.m.

Blah Blah Blah

Every game info gets leaked, same thing happens every year. lol

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BumblebeeCody said on February 21, 2013 at 2:48 p.m.

Yeah Ono!

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ArykheartX said on February 21, 2013 at 5:39 p.m.

Lupinko was Snow thats why he doesnt host the ask capcom anymore

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GokaiGreen said on February 26, 2013 at 3:14 p.m.

(This user was banned.)

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