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Skullgirls Crowdfunding DLC information - Squigly can not be completed without $150,000, second DLC character in line will be male

Posted by Steven 'Dreamking23' Chavez • February 16, 2013 at 3:30 p.m. PST
The Skullheart forums posted a recap of important information divulged by Lab Zero's CEO Peter "Ravidrath" Bartholow and Mike "MikeZ" Zaimont from a recent SaltyCupcakes stream. A ton of information regarding the recently announced Squigly DLC, the PC version of the game and a bit of other stuff was discussed and you can check out the most important points below.

Hit the jump to see the remainder of the notes.

• The drive is scheduled to start on February 25th
• Mike offhandedly mentioned Squigly would need around $100,000 to be finished. Mike has clarified in the comments that the amount is $150,000.
• The Stretch goals will be hidden in a silhouette that will progressively get revealed as the milestone is closer to being broken.
• It was previously mentioned that the first stretch goal beyond Squigly would be a male DLC character. On the stream Peter gave a rough outline of the main goals:

Squigly
Squigly story mode plus additional stage
Male character
Male character story plus second additional stage
Third character to be chosen by popular vote
Third character story plus additional stage

• Once the Squigly amount is met, production on her can begin immediately, regardless if the crowd funding period has finished or not.

• Update: If the milestones are reached for new stages to be created, Michiru Yamane agreed to compose NEW music for the stages.
• Squigly auditions have finished, they just need to choose the final voice.
• Mike then countered this announcement later in the stream by saying interested voice actors could email Lab Zero and ask for an audition script.
• Number 13's favorite LeDuc was confirmed to not be the first male character.
• Peter mentioned that he thought Stanley Whitefin and Panzerfaust would be strong contenders for the vote, but there were many characters not yet seen that people could get excited about.
• Peter was asked about Bloody Marie's potential inclusion as she is already in Skullgirls as a boss character. He explained that she only has around 100 of the average 1500 frames of animation and only 5 or so of the 100+ lines of dialogue required for a playable character, so she is no easier to make than anyone else.
• It was also reconfirmed that Squigly would be free to download for a limited period for everyone if the crowd funding is successful and not just those that contributed.
• MikeZ signed off on the subject by mentioning that if the crowd funding is not successful it would effectively halt development on Skullgirls as they would have no funding from either their publisher or the players.
• Finally, eightysixed will be contributing to the fund. 50% of sales of their Salty Cupcakes pins and $10 from each t-shirt sale will go towards Squigly.

PC version



• Mike and Peter answered some questions in the stream chat about the PC version's specs and features.
• Skullgirls is not terribly system-intensive and should run on most modern PCs. As an example Peter said it would likely run on a '09 Macbook Pro and that he definitely can run it at 60FPS under Parallels on his '11 Macbook Pro.
• Mike later mentioned that the game runs well on his 'toaster' with a ATI Radeon 5650. He also mentioned the game is capable of running at over 2700 1200 FPS unrendered on the PS3 and 360. • Peter mentioned they were looking into porting Skullgirls to DirectX 11.
• The PC version will have lobbies.
• Online Training Mode and Replay Recording are hoped to be included, but Peter could not guarantee as he not involved in the development schedule. • Crossplatform play is not on the cards as Steamworks, the technology which enables it, is not an approved middleware.

Other Details



• Zone, creator of an extremely NSFW, but also very high quality Filia flash animation was in the stream chat. During idle discussion Mike mentioned that the UI developer at Lab Zero was very interested in getting the vectorized lifebar assets Zone created for his animation and was asked to stay in contact. Also worth mentioning that the VA for "ZONE-tan" known as Caxx is interested for the role of Squigly.

• Peter also mentioned that Autumn is still interested in working with Skullgirls and if their current legal troubles turn out well for them Skullgirls 2 could be potentially greenlit.

Tip by HooliganComboFTW.

Comments

halochicken said on February 16, 2013 at 3:35 p.m.

damn they got sfxt beat these guy want 150k for dlc

#1
HooliganComboFTW said on February 16, 2013 at 3:36 p.m.

...And here we go

#2
J said on February 16, 2013 at 3:40 p.m.

Looks like we got a hostage situation on our hands.

#3
Chryo said on February 16, 2013 at 3:41 p.m.

They got my PC version preorder like 7 months ago, that's all I'm doing.

#4
Ninjagoon said on February 16, 2013 at 3:42 p.m.

cant wait to try out Squiggly (when she's available). and to have Zone-tan the voice of her? THANK YOU BASED GOD!

#5
rakuko said on February 16, 2013 at 3:43 p.m.

i wish the characters also got themes. regardless, i'll be supporting this. and Zone-tan is a possible VA, not definite, so don't get too excited.

#6
Mr_Pyro said on February 16, 2013 at 3:43 p.m.

Not to worry. We just need to give them 19,330 Bison Dollars.

#7
Celticlord said on February 16, 2013 at 3:58 p.m.

Can't wait for PC version, already have it on Xbox but PC is much more convenient. Also Zone-Tan voice, too good to be true.

#8
bunny said on February 16, 2013 at 4:01 p.m.

150k...seems kinda outrageous how can 1 character need that much funds ? did the game cost 1,000,000+ to make in the first place?

#9
Celticlord said on February 16, 2013 at 4:02 p.m.

Also are they not using Kickstarter ?

#10
Skye said on February 16, 2013 at 4:05 p.m.

Maybe...this game should just lay to rest? Just let it go...

#11
DustinFong said on February 16, 2013 at 4:05 p.m.

Sorry, gave all my money to not cure breast cancer. None left for you guys.

#12
PropLeXed said on February 16, 2013 at 4:06 p.m.

Lol yo 150k?

#13
gluemchen said on February 16, 2013 at 4:07 p.m.

It`s sad that ppl think these costs are insane. Compared to what 1 character costs for Capcom, this is peanuts. Capcom uses up to 1-2m for 1 character. This is the cheapest you can go for making characters. And to be blunt the way they made it work with SG is revolutionary.

#14
xShonuffx said on February 16, 2013 at 4:07 p.m.

If she will be free then its a no brainer but if I help only to have to pay for the character, then no thanks, sorry Mike. If im wrong on that let me know cuz I don't know.

#15
Roge9 said on February 16, 2013 at 4:08 p.m.

#11 it will if the goal is not met, they will move on to other things.

#9 150k is nothing for a character, you'd be surprised by how much they are.

#16
xShonuffx said on February 16, 2013 at 4:08 p.m.

@10 Kickstarter is too busy kissing up to Bronies. I doubt it would work.

#17
liammiller18 said on February 16, 2013 at 4:11 p.m.

@9

The game definitely cost well over 1m$ to make.

#18
J said on February 16, 2013 at 4:12 p.m.

@14

Citation needed.

#19
HooliganComboFTW said on February 16, 2013 at 4:12 p.m.

#9
150k is actually pretty dirt cheap(It was 250k per character before but they took pay cuts) for the character process from Step 0(Art, Animations, Voice talent to the Final Step(submission fees, etc etc). They were being funded by Autumn Games before so a few Million was nothing at the time, but the whole Def Jam: Rapstar lawsuit of 15 Million dollars unfortunately made Reverge Labs dump the Skullgirls Team without compensation due to court issues. If Autumn Games can favorably get out of the lawsuit they can work with the Lab Zero crew again.

Street Fighter IV in contrast costs roughly at least a Million per character (Keep in mind how many characters were created from scratch in Vanilla SIV back in the arcades before slowly adding more characters due to SFIV profits.) After seeing the profits they could afford the Venture for creating more characters for Super and eventually AE.

#10

No IndieGoGo apparently due to Wider secured payment methods and more flexible deadlines is what I hear on stream

#20
Existent said on February 16, 2013 at 4:15 p.m.

@14
I would love to know where you got a figure like that.

#21
bunny said on February 16, 2013 at 4:15 p.m.

waste of cash imo even if the amount is less high than other companies put into making characters honestly if capcom putting over a mil for characters they should find a more cost effective solution

#22
Kenshiro said on February 16, 2013 at 4:25 p.m.

I found the character concept to be interesting but I won't be heartbroken if it doesn't come about. Hope they reach their intended goal.

#23
illness690 said on February 16, 2013 at 4:44 p.m.

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#24
VulcanHades said on February 16, 2013 at 4:51 p.m.

I'm guessing the cost is basically the salary of the guys working on the character for a year. So a 3D character would require: a modeler, an animator, a programmer so at the very least 120k. 2D probably takes more time because it's hand drawn and all.

#25
VulcanHades said on February 16, 2013 at 4:55 p.m.

Forgot sound effects and voice actor.

#26
GeeK said on February 16, 2013 at 4:57 p.m.

150k is the new 8.95

#27
danny2times said on February 16, 2013 at 5:02 p.m.

Hold on a minute! Than how did the crew working on mip-fim do it? Are they retired millionaire IT people? This is outrageous I'm sorry. No way somebody break it down for me please. How can a character they said is almost complete cost as much as a Lamborghini?
How much did it cost to make the game!? What's the profit/loss on this game that caused the team to shut down to begin with? I'm sorry if this is offense but something is amiss.

#28
Dutchling said on February 16, 2013 at 5:05 p.m.

To make this perfect, the PC version should be released on GOG.

#29
Schwoi said on February 16, 2013 at 5:18 p.m.

I'll donate.

#30
suicidali said on February 16, 2013 at 5:27 p.m.

... So has Umbrella been shelved completely then?

#31
HooliganComboFTW said on February 16, 2013 at 5:35 p.m.

#24, #28

Peter Bartholow(Ceo of Lab Zero) answered questions in the Srk article comments that are similar to the ones being asked here.

http://shoryuken.com/2013/02/15/skull...

Whats more is on the IndieGoGo page on 2/25 will show a full price breakdown of what sections the money will go towards. It will be a glimpse of what the fighting game industry actually has to do for expenses to create a character(Its not as cheap as you think, especially for 2d fighting games, they have to expect their profits will cover the expenses and whatever cuts various 3rd parties take).

About Fim?

The game was HIGHLY incomplete, going at a slow pace, was specifically for PC (Don't have to jump through hoops to deal with consoles reaching in your wallet) and in terms of quality was inferior to Skullgirls (Not saying FiM was garbage, but Skullgirls actually had funding to help the process). It was more of a Fan Project (A really GOOD Fan project using whatever they had)

Old Skullgirls looked similar to FiM in terms of quality and took a year to complete old design Filia so they could pitch the game too different companies like Ubisoft etc to fund them. Compared to now where they could pump high quality characters out in 3 month intervals since they have staff now.

#32
KingKong said on February 16, 2013 at 5:39 p.m.

Then: We won't make DLC unless a lot of people buy our game.

Now: We won't make this one character unless a lot of people give us money.

Gotta love the way these producers always manage to make the customers feel guilty. Basically, if there's no DLC, then it's our fault because we didn't buy this game. Once a hostage, always a hostage.

#33
Torrie_De_Goddess said on February 16, 2013 at 5:41 p.m.

Of course the cost is high, especially when you consider that each character is being drawn. S kill mentioned that SFIV would've been far more expensive to make if they went with sprites over 3D models. Not to mention all #20 mentioned. How cheap did some of you thing it would be?

#34
SkllXMnky said on February 16, 2013 at 5:50 p.m.

How exactly does pricing for this works? I'm quite confused.

#35
Creeper said on February 16, 2013 at 5:50 p.m.

@danny2times Skullgirls sprites in their original resolution are 5 times the size of Fighting is Magic sprites, and each Skullgirls character has well over a thousand sprites.
http://shoryuken.com/wp-content/uploa...
The cost comes from paying professional artists to come in every day and make thousands of images like the above. And it's not all done in one smooth motion. Rough black-and-white sketches are made, then someone has to clean them up into clean line-art, then someone has to color them. Not to mention all the time they spend planning and communicating exactly what animations have to be drawn in the first place, the paid programmers who develop the character, the paid voice actor, the paid employees (probably pulled from the other departments) who have to do test the character to make sure it doesn't break the game, and the amount they have to pay Microsoft and Sony do distribute it (don't quote me on that, I'm not sure how much it is, but I heard it's like $20,000; a drop in the bucket for, say, EA, but a hefty chunk of change for a little guy). In short, there are easily dozens of people working on the character, and every single one of them receives a paycheck for their months of work like they would at any other job. It's easy to do it for free when it's a small passion project, but not when there's so much work that needs to be done and so many cogs in the machine that need to keep spinning.

#36
Reality said on February 16, 2013 at 5:51 p.m.

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#37
AlgeKevin said on February 16, 2013 at 5:55 p.m.

Regardless of donating to the cure for breast cancer charity for skullgirls, I'm still going to put a comfortable amount of money into this as it is truly community driven and Mike Z and the group have been through hell, yet are still working to make this game work and doing a great job with the hand they've been dealt. Best of luck to this crowdfunding and I really do hope it gets far more than $150,000 as I would personally love to see this become even more of a full game than it already is as an xbl/psn title.

#38
hazelnut1112 said on February 16, 2013 at 6:01 p.m.

Oh wow, getting Zon-Tan's Va to do squiggly. THis will be interesting.

#39
gunosaguki said on February 16, 2013 at 6:06 p.m.

@37 You need money to pay people to develop things. you can't just promise them pay and then give them the money you made from sales.

#40
Cammystrike said on February 16, 2013 at 6:19 p.m.

All the luck to them; it won't be easy reaching that goal.

#41
danny2times said on February 16, 2013 at 6:28 p.m.

Listen I understand people need to get paid for their work, I get that. I'm saying that if this character is that far done as shown here on hubs a while back. How can it still cost that much too finish? And how much will they ask for the character they've mentioned is only in concept stage, the male character.

This has me very curious, I'm in automotive prototype fabrication. My shop hand built the 2013 viper. It cost 1.5 million complete. From concept to finished driving car, engineer to fabricator and everyone in between. I just can't believe some numbers being thrown around per character.

I am an artist, you name it i do it. If I could make better money just drawing animation stills for a gaming company I'd be doing it. There has to be some exaggeration here.

#42
illness690 said on February 16, 2013 at 6:33 p.m.

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#43
BeatNinja said on February 16, 2013 at 6:35 p.m.

#38

This

#44
uguumachine said on February 16, 2013 at 6:46 p.m.

@14 hahaha. yeah right. if one character cost capcom 1-2m MvC3 would have cost them atleast 40m only for characters. stop talking bs.

@28 MLP has flash animation quality and flash animation is very fast to make. the characters are made from basic shapes and you move the shapes around. skullgirl's animation has every frame drawn and no shortcuts.

calling it now: this is not gonna happen. I have seen way more popular stuff fail on kickstarter.

#45
meowmeowkittenz said on February 16, 2013 at 6:49 p.m.

Seems weak and uninspired to me. If you're going to raise money build something sustainable, don't just squeak out more dlc on an otherwise dead end product.

Maybe aim to raise what it would take to make a revamped pc version, call it SkullGirls2 or SkullGirls2014, use all the existing content + this extra stuff the 150k would fund. Make it a LOL style freemium game. Everything free to play offline, online you need to buy chars/colors/stages or use the weekly free ones. Then you could do future dlc funding within the game as a preorder.

You've got something really good here guys, please think bigger.

#46
HooliganComboFTW said on February 16, 2013 at 6:54 p.m.

#43

Well known individual in the dark side of the inter web and youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TraCvA... NSFW Animated Comedy Series on Youtube

. The voice of that "Zone-Tan" shown interest to VA Squigly.

#45

You do realize thats Nothing for Marvel and Capcom, especially if they can easily make that all back in profits right?

#47
Zidiane said on February 16, 2013 at 7:09 p.m.

@45 go stand in the corner with peacemillion

#48
KB said on February 16, 2013 at 7:21 p.m.

Is $150,000 cheaper than what most characters cost in SG and other FG franchises? Of course. But money is still money, and 150K is still a huge amount. SG was only (in terms of 150K) able to make around 76k in the EVO donation drive and Smash was "only" able to make around 96k. And anyone involved in seriously donating for any of these two games know how hard of a task that was. Money is still money, 150k is still 150k, and people are still people. We don't exactly have bottomless wallets. I will be donating, but you can't blame others for being overwhelmed by the 150k goal.

#49
Razberryclownsac said on February 16, 2013 at 7:22 p.m.

Peter Bartholomew discussed a lot of the price issues on SRK. The team all took pay cuts to get the price down to 150k, Squigly will be free for 3 months, and they will start working on next dlc character if goal is reached. They are an indie company that doesn't have the funds Capcom has, so I don't know why everyone thinks this is too expensive. Its not that different from Fox making a movie versus an indie film maker. They may spend 200k on a movie, and that seems outrageous. Then you hear Fox spending 40 million on a movie and it seems a lot less now.

#50
Squallixer said on February 16, 2013 at 7:34 p.m.

LoL, that last little tidbit about Zone had me rolling. Guys I know Skull Girls is a little ris-ke but lets not associate with hentai artists. Then again, considering all that messed up shiz the lead animator has on MechaFetus.com, I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

#51
roknin said on February 16, 2013 at 8 p.m.

"@14 hahaha. yeah right. if one character cost capcom 1-2m MvC3 would have cost them atleast 40m only for characters. stop talking bs."

I'm surprised it's only 1 mil. Most gaming budgets these days are astronomical - that's not even a shocking revelation. You can pretty much do the math just by adding up what's needed to complete a character. You need concept artists, 3D modelers, texture artists, animators (sometimes multiple animators for separate jobs)‚ programmers, and of course voice actors - which likely gets even more pricey these days because they're not just calling out a move or two (ie., complete intro/ending dialogue, cutscenes, etc.).

That's not including testing.

150k is pretty cheap... and that's not considering that it's likely even more involved when you factor in those 3D modelers are now instead 2D animators, and you have to add in keyframers and such into that.

This -ish is not cheap.

"If I could make better money just drawing animation stills for a gaming company I'd be doing it. There has to be some exaggeration here."

Going to blow your mind even more then: most animators/artists/illustrators/modelers/etc. don't get paid THAT well (considering the level of work most have to do), nor is the work steady. Most of it is contract work unless you get extremely lucky (or are just that damn good) and land a permanent gig with the likes of a Capcom dev or a Konami dev (or more to the point outside of gaming, a Disney or a Dreamworks or Pixar, etc.).

It's a really tough field and the cost to do work in it is increasing. It's why despite not really being all that into SG's play-style, I admire the hell out of Alex Ahad for continuing to work on it and pitch it for so many years, and Mike Z and their team for doing everything they can to support it despite all the setbacks.

#52
StriderSpinel said on February 16, 2013 at 8:37 p.m.

really? that much? come on....

#53
werewolfgold said on February 16, 2013 at 8:37 p.m.

Mass education is needed about the real costs of the video game industry. I can't blame people for being dumbfounded by what they are asking. But, I reeeeeeally think that all vg companies need to be more upfront about the costs of vg development and exactly where the money goes.

I think Sven from Capcom mentioned that it would make investors and stockholders cry in a corner, however. lol

#54
AugustAPC said on February 16, 2013 at 8:57 p.m.

I'll probably donate. Good to help a great game in the scene.

A male character, eh? Kinda seems out of place. Nothing wrong with male characters... but only having one in a game just seems odd for some reason.

#55
ya_boy said on February 16, 2013 at 9:30 p.m.

Lol god damn man! $150k for a DLC character? I'm laughing so much I don't even know what to say. ROFL!

#56
JaguarSleepover said on February 16, 2013 at 9:59 p.m.

Ugh, I realize that $150k seems ridiculous but that really is a reasonable cost compared to the amount for each mainstream fighting game character.

I wish I could contribute but I really don't have the income for it. That said, I really hope they achieve that goal as I would love to see Panzerfaust or Big Band playable in the future.

#57
Centaur said on February 16, 2013 at 10:02 p.m.

@15 (xShonuffx)
Upon release, Squiggly will be free for a whole three months before requiring pay, so anyone who donates won't pay twice for her.

#58
iheartmota said on February 16, 2013 at 10:28 p.m.

Well. They should be incentives. Memrebolia and the voice actress voicemails and stuff like they did for the drive. Personally I don't mind it. Especially with a stage and music that's also included.

#59
bahamutknightzero said on February 16, 2013 at 10:30 p.m.

Bait and switch?

#60
Loryuo said on February 16, 2013 at 11:09 p.m.

Why are there so many people with such a shallow mentality in these comments? What you thought making characters was free? 150k really isn't that much, even if it's not mostly coming out of their pockets.

#61
Dominion said on February 16, 2013 at 11:14 p.m.

I find it hilarious people believed a single character costs anything less than something in the six figures, for a console game no less.

#62
DontTaseMeBro said on February 16, 2013 at 11:18 p.m.

LMFAOOOO 150K, Are they high on crack!? This game is DEAD. Don't waste your money on a dead on arrival product. I mean when your video games are making less money then EA Sports' Yearly rewashed NHL Hockey Video Games are, you are a joke.

#63
Mecha_G said on February 17, 2013 at 12:12 a.m.

If Caxx gets the part, I want Squigly to have a Zone-tan color alt. And I'm definitely voting for Umbrella.

#64
Spaghetti_Time said on February 17, 2013 at 12:47 a.m.

@55

I hear you, and I'm sure many other do.

Characters that are not street fighters in Street Fighter include Guile (Air Force Colonel), Chun-Li (Interpol Agent), M.Bison (Dictator) and I doubt E.Honda goes to random hole-in-the-wall undercover locations to practice Sumo against random thugs.

It's not too far-fetched.

#65
FlynnChop said on February 17, 2013 at 12:49 a.m.

The primary difference between something like this and the cost of DLC characters for someone like, oh we'll just say Capcom, is that a company like Capcom can afford to wait until the product is released to get their 150k per character.

If someone like Mike Z took out a loan to fund the work and nobody paid for the DLC, he'd be pretty boned. So. Y'know. Cash up front!

In actuality, the money a large company spends on DLC is probably going to end up being higher than 150k per character. That said, they also generally make more than that in sales of that character.

Companies that offer free DLC are basically taking the cost-hit for the work involved with the hopes that DLC releases will keep the game active longer. This, combined with the good publicity for creating free DLC, in turn leads to more sales for the core game itself.

To those who believe content developers should just give you free stuff out of the goodness of their hearts... Get a damn job, move out of Mom's basement, and we'll talk again in 5 years.

#66
MMGboys said on February 17, 2013 at 1:50 a.m.

$150k on one characte/possible DLC nah something aint rite

#67
scytheavatar said on February 17, 2013 at 2:31 a.m.

@14 and 20 I am 99% certain that doing characters in 3D is cheaper than that in 2D, and that was a huge reason why Capcom is pointing their middle finger at 2D animation and insisting on sticking to 3D. So I really want to know where that 1 million figure came from.

#68
Kawalorn said on February 17, 2013 at 3:04 a.m.

#68 Because when you are a big company you aren't trying as hard to minimize costs. Also 3D requires much more people to work on stuff (programmers, animators, designers) as in 2D requires only artists (at least in doing the animations) and thus is a better choice for a producer that isn't that big.

BTW you all should really remember that one time when Sven (or was it Seth?) said that you would be really surprised just how much developing things costs. Personaly I believe in that 1,000,000$ thing and I sure believe that Skullgirls have cheaper characters than others.

#69
caruga said on February 17, 2013 at 3:05 a.m.

So, umm, where's the donation link?

#70
Kawalorn said on February 17, 2013 at 3:08 a.m.

#70 Donation starts at 25 February so it doesn't exist yet.

#71
cikame said on February 17, 2013 at 3:09 a.m.

...What, that's less than people are asking to make entire games on kickstarter, yes i know the process in creating and balancing a Skullgirls character is insane but damn, and stretch goals for new characters? What are they 300k... 450k?

Just think, those dudes making that mlp fighting game were doing it for free.

#72
Lyn said on February 17, 2013 at 3:58 a.m.

Will donate.

#73
SuperiorTech said on February 17, 2013 at 5:18 a.m.

Skullgirls sold about 50k so if everyone who bought the game donated $3 the goal would be met.
i'll break it down a little
$3 x 50k =150k
$6 x 25k =150k
$10 x 15k =150k
$15 x 10k =150k
$20 x 7.5k =150k ect.
i stopped at $20 cause its not really a lot and any more than that would be a waste. i'm sure a lot of you play marvel, would you pay $20 to see your favorite character in? i would gladly fork over $20 to get Jon Talbain in UMVC3. so the more money people donate the less people that have to donate. we finally get a company that wants to add to there fighting game unlike UMVC3 were fans have asked for more characters going on a year and a half now and nothing. at least lab zero is trying. and its free once it's done.

#74
TrishThreesome said on February 17, 2013 at 5:36 a.m.

This crowdfunding could have been successful if done BEFORE the SRK illuminati decided they needed a pat on the back from Kotaku and auctioned their 8th game spot.

There is NO WAY people will invest a huge sum like $150 000 so soon after the Evo donation drive. You can thank the srk staff craving approval from the e-sports media for that.

Looking forward to the PC version, 15$ well-spent, and that's enough.

#75
JiCi said on February 17, 2013 at 5:56 a.m.

Pass... Skullgirls was disappointing, so I'm through supporting it.

#76
alfarin said on February 17, 2013 at 6 a.m.

I wish them luck but... $150k does seem a bit unrealistic. The reason that the breast cancer drive did so well was because frankly, after the mud that was slung last year we all wanted to stick it to Kotaku

Alas. I wish them well and will chip in, but I'm pessimistic.

#77
JRXP2011 said on February 17, 2013 at 6:55 a.m.

This is a crappy ass dead game, and these guys want 150k for an extra character that will not do crap for the game....... Not sending a penny to these guys, get your own money.

They saw the potential to get dat dough with the srk donations drive.

#78
ipman said on February 17, 2013 at 7:24 a.m.

finish the product and then sell it. Its retarded to expect consumers to take the risk and finance of production. I hope this game dies.

#79
Zentsurugi said on February 17, 2013 at 8:02 a.m.

I will definitely donate to this.

#80
umeshoryu89 said on February 17, 2013 at 9:21 a.m.

good luck.

#81
pamelaann681 said on February 17, 2013 at 10:09 a.m.

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#82
aj said on February 17, 2013 at 10:41 a.m.

What if they only get $100,000? All the people who paid to have a character just don't get to have it? Instead of paying money to get a character, I'd have to pay money to MAYBE have a character? WTF?

This is some cowardly stuff. Like, I actually wouldn't mind if they had a $3 DLC character, because they are a relatively indie team. But now, it's just a hope/promise.

#83
Phatman said on February 17, 2013 at 10:45 a.m.

So much hate here...I hate it.

#84
caruga said on February 17, 2013 at 11:09 a.m.

I thought the money doesn't get transferred unless the goal is actually met. Hmm.

#85
rakuko said on February 17, 2013 at 12:04 p.m.

@83 and @85: the rule of Indiegogo and Kickstarter is that if the goal is not met, the payments don't go through. Indiegogo in particular will list the charge right after you contribute, but they will refund it if the goal doesn't go through. (this is also listed in red on Indiegogo after you input a cost and perk).

you either get a character and lose a bit of cash (no one's expecting $1k from each person), or you get nothing and lose nothing. and Lab Zero isn't doing scumbag stuff, they're making Squigly free for like 3 months after she's released. stop complaining.

#86
anthonygamer said on February 17, 2013 at 1:15 p.m.

$150K these nuts.

#87
Firegod said on February 17, 2013 at 1:23 p.m.

personally im more upset about the next char inline being a guy...guess he caved into the pressure of alot of people not taking the game seriously cause its all girls.

#88
JRXP2011 said on February 17, 2013 at 2:14 p.m.

No investor wants to give them the money to do this because they know not to throw money away.... Why should we? the game is dead no matter what.

#89
roknin said on February 18, 2013 at 2:13 p.m.

Holy shizz at the hate and sheer ignorance in these comments.

#90


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