Alians000: So its true Shin was rejected even when there was blank slate for you? You didn't wanna make him in, because you disliked him?
Harada: I'm sooooo tired about this and I'm so angry about this.
*LISTEN*
I said " "All the characters are like my son or daughter" million times. I said it few years ago.
I love all characters. I'm their parents. and I'll be unemployment if there is no existence of them.
I hate only spammers and Negative opinion.
[A] few years ago, Jun fan and Kunimitsu fan had said that it was the same as you.
But now, They are happy. also I'm happy about this result.
I do not hear a negative opinion and do not realize them.
It will not be realized supposing you are pessimistic to Shin.
Even if I explain in this way, there are those who ask, "Then, does Shin appear in NEXT TEKKEN?"
Are you hearing my talk or tweet usually?
I said "They will be realized if many fans wish." million times!
MILLION TIMES.
Of course, It will not be realized if there are few people who wish them.
It is my answer.
And one more thing, I dislike the talk based on a rumor.
There is no truth in a rumor.
I still cannot wait for more info about T x SF. I hope it'll be as good as the preliminary sketches he gave us last time :)
You Go Harada. Lots of respect for him. Tekken Tag 2 Was awesome despite the low sales. And looking forward to T X SF
Honestly these fans shouldn't ask for characters, its really the development teams decision to decide who will be in the game. Most of the fans will never understand the true reality of videogame development works anyway, they're like a child wanting their little wish come true when they need to learn life the hard and painful way.
Heck even these people asking for these characters shouldn't even get the rights to create videogames, because there are lot of things these people need to learn.
@8 Shin is a character from the Tekken Blood Vengence Movie.
But Shin is dead... Not like Jun dead but at the moment he is Armor King #1 kind of dead lol. But I thought Harada said something about the Shin skin being available for Jin if you have the Hybrid save data. When is that happening. And I know it is a Tag game and deaths do not matter but still.. Wanting those alts right about now :(
Recursive image link is recursive.
@#8 Portal23:
The "other" chap from the Tekken Bood Vengeance movie, if I recall correctly.
@RA_MO:
Wasn't that a rumor¿ Is there actual proof of him saying that, because I don't really remember that.
@10 about the Shin skin, because in order to get the Tekken Hybrid costumes in Tekken Tag 2. You need the files Tekken Tag Tournament HD, Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Prolouge, and Tekken Blood Vengence Movie this is exclusive to PS3. The only problem is getting the movies save file, it has to be save on the BD Data Utility. There is barely any guide of how you save the movie file. The only movie save files I got were 2 BD movies I rented.
I respect his stance and all, but jeez guy. Calm down.
It's ok for fans to have a wish list. It's the buzz of character requests/rumor that can make a developer aware that there is a desire for that character to be included.
No need to lash out at your "fans".
But hey, Harada is apparently some kind of Rockstar to you guys, so I guess he can do/say whatever he wants.
Too bad (seriously) the Tekken community doesn't open their wallets as often as they open their mouths. Tekken needs support at retail more than it does on the forums.
I just think people are stupid. Why do people ask for obscure characters. At least with Jun, and Kunimitsu, they were relevant in that they were actually playable at one point and just taken away.
However this is just people complaining to complain at this point. Frankly his job he did with TTT2 is probably the best of any fighting game developer and team I've ever seen and frankly, any haters are full of themselves. And any other developer/team are nothing but in their shadow.
I personally think the respect that Tekken truly deserves is long overdue. I have loved the game since I played it. Same goes for street fighter. I guess since they are both so different yet share similar qualities is why I am so accepting to fighting games in general. As for shin, if they really did make him playable, he would at most be sort of like a Xiaoyu/Miharu type ordeal with Jin. He would possess many of Jin's moves but maybe a few would be his own and they would change the properties of others that he has. but like KissofPosion has stated, he would be one of the only characters on the roster with little to no credibility. I say this because the only other one I can think of would be Sebastian but even he is more involved in the story than Shin so I figured it was only a matter of time until they worked him into the game. Heck, Alt skin or not, even Miharu made it into the official storyline and as an actual playable character. I personally would not mind Shin if he was even in a Tekken game but since he has never been in any of the game's storylines, it does not kill me if he is never used... Now Jun and Kunimitsu on the other hand.. I miss them TT___TT lol <3
@17 I've been trying to find ways to get the movies save file since Tekken Tag 2 got release, trying to find ways on how to save the movie in the BD Data Utility was just a bloody nightmare because there is barely any info on the internet on how you save the BD movies on the BD Data Utility, my friend who works for Sony missed his chance to ask the main guy who knows PS3, he even contacted Sony's consumer services which in the end the guy doesn't know anything about the BD Data Utility or even the answers I'm looking for. I'm not giving up, until I get it somehow.
@23 so far, the only thing I manage to get stuff on the BD Data Utility were two blu ray movies I rented. But I don't know of how did I get it when I just simply watching my rented movies.
@25 The only thing I can do is try to figure out what to do, he even was thinking about trying to get Tekken Hybrid himself and try to figure things out from here.
I'm right now looking for certain details, I think the possible detail with the BD save file is the playback when your leaving from your movie. Heres this certain person's comment: BD is used for all the information stored during playback of Blu-ray movies. This includes bookmarks or any temporary data used during playback. Don't delete it or mess with it. I believe this data is limited to 256MB in size so that is plenty small on even the 20GB PS3 unit.
This is so far I found.
Really, there's people asking for Shin? that whiny non-personality generic as heck Shin, Really? wow, just wow.
Harada should ignore those dudes, I was disappointed for how little time the Mishimas had in their movie, there are lots of other already classic Tekken characters that deserved more on screen time than Shin.
Even Lars feel forced on Tekken 6.
Harada-san to whiners.
"Suck it!"
Epic reply is epic.
I actually asked for Jun/Unknown, because, I love that character and I use her on my main team. I never requested for Kunimitsu, but I thought she was a kickass character and she is on my second team. People need understand Harada's point because too many idiots like to jump on the bandwagon asking for obscure characters they won't ever use.
Mmmm loves me some Harada. He does not just baby gamers like most companies but gives them a spanking if they want to show out. I respect his ability to put people in their place and be very straight forward about how he feels.
So wat I get from this, request Shin, he makes it happen O.O
Well played Harada-san, well played
Are they seriously asking for Shin?
I mean is he the guy from the crappy movie, with no personality other than "leave me alone Imma crawl in my skin", no style and *spoiler* who dies miserably by a suplex or something by Heihachi, to whom he couldn't even do a scratch, isn't he?
Why would the game need that?
Wow, people are still bothering him about the TTT2 roster, after all he and his team have already given us. It's a shame that some "fans" are so thoughtless, unappreciative and greedy. These are some of the people I have to online-associate myself with just to enjoy video games...ugh.
People ask for weird characters when it comes to Capcom games too.
His point is that you are welcome to request for characters but don't be hostile and spread rumors about it. Which is what the question is.
@Oroku_Saki
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2012/ju...
Sorry for the late reply on that but there you go. <3
Shin is such a moody generic little anime prissy boy. Leave him be in the movie and quit requesting characters just because they are obscure. Let Harada and the Tekken staff make new characters and creative archetypes based of off real fighter styles and martial arts.
Jun and Kuni are famous characters in Tekken making them great returns, Shin?
He's a bio weapon without a fighting style, so he'd be kind of a blend between Miguel and Jin with Steve's story, sure new characters are great because of Namco's amazing animations and polish but i don't think Shin fits.
Now to Harada: most people are stupid; you can't change that, unfortunately.
Harada hates rumours!?
OH man Harada is gonna EWGF Kotaku into oblivion. Seriously, the game has 50+ characters. I would like to see more but those remaining are minimal characters to the series. Shin, Gon, Random Tekken Force Guy 7 and beach ball.
Harada is pretty cool, apparently if he's annoyed enough he won't sugarcoat the Real answer. That's what whiney kids need to hear once in a while -_- Taking advantage of that Internet "shield" making a immature comment disguised as a question...reminds me of the type of remark a journalist would make when trying to incite an emotional reaction from someone famous who got caught in some scandal.
I like the double standards going on here when it comes to Harada and Sven.
Crappy Fan ask for a unreasonable request/ Question
Sven- Answers in a somewhat annoyed mood while not fully answering the entire question, can come off as a slight ass sometimes- Everybody hates him and thinks he is a super dick.
Harada- Goes full scumbag mode, insulting and yelling at the fans, making long drawn out statements about how angry he is that he constantly gets questioned- Everybody loves how he acts and says we need more of this.
FGC with that double standard option select!
If Capcom's Sven said this, he would be burned at the stake by idiot fans.
If Namco's Harada says this, he's a genius and a god among men.
Lol FGC double standards.
But, double standard aside, I'm glad Harada shuts these fools up from time to time. Keeps them in their place.
That's why people respect Harada, because he has "sack". He doesn't mince words and cater to whiners like so many others in the business. Easier to respect a guy who tells it like it is than a wimp.
If Capcom's Sven, or Ono for that matter, would be more direct instead of giving wimpy, indirect replies all the time they would get more respect also - IMO.
@56
Sven gets so much more hate just for slightly being a ass. And what Harada is doing isn't showing he has "sack" it just makes it seem like he is throwing a tantrum. I like both of them but lashing out like Harada isn't the best way to handle things.
@57 He could say what he said but there are more professional ways he could have put it rather than what he chose.
@InitialR
Because Sven is just a PR dude.
Harada IS Tekken. He IS those characters so he can talk about what he wants.
Sven barely answers the questions and when he does they're cryptic.
Harada is the "eff it, here's the deal" Straight forward answer, no dicking around and right to point. No company pressure on his neck YET gives an informative answer.
[Insert question]:
Sven: I dunno, we'll have to wait and see/I can't comment on that matter
Harada: NO, you're wrong and here's why.
See?
Also, full scumbag mode? Really now?
@62
I know their titles dude, it still doesn't give him the right to "say it as it is" because he still represents both Tekken and Namco Bandai. Just because the FGC isn't the most polite of people it doesn't mean he gets to follow suit.
And yeah, he acted like a scumbag because he is talking to A FAN OF HIS SERIES with hostility and anger. yeah the fans may get rude, repetitive, or down right mean, but they are still HIS FANS. They enjoy his work and characters. There are ways to be stern and direct without being a total dick or scum bag.
The fact is no matter how Harada talks to the fans or how much they don't like & whine about it. He's still gonna be making Tekken games. Its not enough for Namco to fire him. All he's really said is that he's told this to fans a million times. If you can't take that then turn in your man card now.
Double standards? That's not even the issue. Your wittle feewings shouldn't matter since Harada does right by the fans from the get go, doing things the fans want before they even ask for it, as opposed to Capcom execs only responding at a breaking point.
Everything Harada has said before was direct and to the point. Who cares if he had ONE outburst? Grow a pair.
He's speaking the truth and this is why i respect Hadara more than any other creator, once you create something, they are somewhat apart of you like an imaginary family member.
If you guys can't really get beyond "harada" when formulating your thoughts about my arugement, then i'm not going to even continue. I'll just end off by saying Shin was a really bland character and the guy is is pretty much in the minority in this situation.
@InitalR
Namco makes good games, Capcom makes bad ones. Pretty easy to understand why people don't get upset with Harada.
@75
1. That is a Opinion. 2. Namco make pretty bad games as well, and they use the same shady practices Capcom and plenty of other companies use. 3. Harada protects his games, which is both understandable and respectable. But just because HARADA and his team makes good fighting games it doesn't give him the right to say whatever he wants. Thats like saying A manager can say and do whatever he wants in his store just because he manages a good store. The manager STILL has to answer to somebody, just like Harada does.
Always like the straightforwardness of some of Harada's answer. I dont really see how it was full scumbag. Basically said 'look, i love these characters. you guys want one in they say so. More people ask the more likely said character will get in.' 'Also i am tired of these statements as i have addressed it multiple times now stop.'
Nothing but i dose of reality and some common sense.
I'm with InitialR on this one. If Sven, or any other Capcom representative for that matter, talked like this to a fan for whatever reason then all hell would break loose in the FGC. But this is Namco and Harada so people give them a free pass.
Just for the record, I understand Harada's feelings, sometimes even I get pissed off with some of the stupid crap people asks, but there's no denying that the FGC is full of double standards and this is one case of it.
@InitialR
You gotta remember, if Capcom didn't do it, then it's a good thing!
The reason they can't come with anything but "Harada" because there is no real reason. There is a Hive Mind, and that Hive Mind is conditioned to hate on Capcom for any and all reasons, so they carry that out.
Sorry for the double post, but Kara I think he was trying to say that if those characters don't exist anymore then he doesn't wanna work anymore. I THINK...
Sven has a smug air about him and is much more shady.
I find Harada annoying, but he did fight to have no paid DLC characters (he's been saying this long ago since Tekken 6 btw) and he was key to making Project X Zone release to the west. He gives people what they want basically. You gotta respect that.
Here's one thing that people need to know: there are certain characters are owned by another company. You can't just put a character in the game without another company's permission. It doesn't work like that.
@77 I think what he was trying to prove to people is that that he is not biased againts characters and he loves all the Tekken Characters. He maybe is trying to say If they didd'nt exist (Tekken) I would'nt have a Job which validates why he feels they are like his Children.
In otherwords, Tekken is the only reason why he has a job and able to feed his family.
This echos many developers all over the country. Game design is hard work and fans are too use to being hand fed anything and everything they want. Very spoiled generation today. Back in the 90's you either got what you bought and did'nt like it or you loved it. Now everyone wants everything and Harada is saying you can't please everyone. Thats why he said if "MILLIONS" of people ask for something he would do his best to include it. Most likely hardley anyone knew about Shin so this guy was in the minority.
Also shows the negetive side to having open tweets and facebook as a developer. Lots of whiny brats craying on their page.
@InitialR
You might know what their titles are but i dont think you understand the depth of the meaning of those titles. Sven doesnt care about the characters, he doesnt care about the customer, he especially doesnt care about you (just facts). So when he is asked questions he is paid to lie and deal with the criticism and he sure as hell doesnt take it personal cause thats what PR is for. Harada like he said in his twitter is TEKKEN he lives and breathes the game and those characters which is why the Tekken series has such a great story and background in its wide variety of characters. He has every right to be a dick to some douche bag who basically accuses him of not liking something he has worked on for years. Does he have to be professional? Absolutely not and you want to know why? Cause it is twitter, not some business press meeting, its twitter. Who is this douchebag that thinks he can accuse the creator of a game he supposedly cares so much for of something like that? That doesnt show respect or appreciation so no that kid doesnt deserve it back. The best part is at least he explains his feelings on the situation and its justifiable. There is no double standard in this situation. To be fair Im no die hard tekken fan but I love the story. You want more honesty, Harada shows more respect for Tekken than Ono does for street fighter. For me its really unfortunate that capcom relies on Udon comics to wrap plot lines up and give street fighter a good story when that isnt too much to ask for in the first place (not complaining just stating a fact). I respectfully disagree with what you have said this whole time especially when you dont walk in harada's shoes.
Shin is the hottest male character in the Tekken universe. Add him in TxSF, pls. :P
Why do people want Shin exactly? If it's only for the reason #38 stated then I really don't think he deserves a spot.
@87
Barely ANY of what you said if facts. Most of what you said is pure speculation. YOU don't know what either of those people truly care about because guess what? YOU'RE not them. Just because Sven is a PR doesn't mean he doesn't care about anything, and just because Harada makes tekken games it doesn't mean he cares about everybody. Both of their main goals at the end of the day is to make money for which ever company they are working for. And you'd be surprise of how many people get fired over twitter/Facebook/etc. It is a public website and he works for a well known company with a positive image. He could be putting his job at risk if he lashes out at the wrong fan and that said fan gets offended. Again like i've said before, Just because he makes the games, it DOES NOT give him the right to lash out at his fans like he does. People suck it up because it is Harada, but when it is somebody like Sven who makes one smart remark, the entire world ends and everybody is offended. It is a double standard that you are trying to Justify just because he makes good games.
And another thing, Tekken's story no better then your average fighting game, which means it is pure crap. Especially after Tekken 6 where they basically just SHOVED Lars down your throat as a important character. Saying Tekken is better then SF is like saying Burger King is better then Mcdonalds. They both suck at the end of the day.
I guess when you keep having to answer the same question over and over again, anyone would get frustrated. Still, there was no need to go THAT far, it just looks unprofessional otherwise.
@InitialR
I highly doubt this has anything to do with "whom" is saying it but what it being said. Unlike Harada Sven has a bad habit of not giving straight forward answers and just having a eh whatever type of attitude. Harada on the other hand answers the questions he is asked, and if he feels that fans complaints are not justified or they continue to merely spam and insult his work with belligerent rumors such as favoritism he will let them know and then let them know why he feels that way.
Harada is one of the very FEW producers who will set a fan straight without making an attempt in sugar coating his feelings, or not admitting when he or someone within his party is wrong.
Harada does not baby fans just to get a approval. He will put the paddle to their behinds if they get out of line and that is what makes him different from Sven. Sven rather stay in good graces instead of telling fans when they need to quit whining about everything or admitting when something that they have done may have not been the best decision.
It is not a double standard since Sven has yet to do what Harada has done and if he were to have more of the mind set Harada has as a producer he may actually be given more appreciation.
@92
You guys fail to forget that there are just somethings that Sven cannot say. That is just his job. Sven has to be cryptic and Vague sometimes, but when he can fully answer a question he'll give you the answer PLUS more. And i'm sure the same thing applies to Harada. There are something i'm sure that he cannot answer, and he pick and chooses what questions to answer.
And How is it not a double Standard? Both guys have lashed out at fans sometimes, Harada more often and harsher then Sven, but Harada gets phrased for "keeping it real" while when Sven gives people the cold hard truth, which I admit is very rarely, he catches hell for it. If that isn't a double standard then I clearly have no clue what the hell i'm talking about then.
It all depends on how nazi Namco Bandai is with their public image and on the rules they set on contract of their employees, since Harada is a big name within the company, I think they let it slide. As a person every man patience have its limits, and it doesn't help having a thousands letters, E-mails, Twitters, Facebook comments nagging incisively on the same pointless things. He said what he felt, he didn't used any bad words, he didn't attack anyone specifically, he didn't used any derogatory names, or insults.
@95
True they'll probably let it slide with him, and again i'm not surprised that he is upset, every man has their limits and he has every right to be upset. But he knew what he was getting into when he decided to take on this job and he was still pretty unprofessional with how he reacted IMO.
but where is the vita port?
also i can understand why no shin, he's basically useless filler for the movie (weakass filler at that he got owned hard by one heihachi backbreaker).
but wasnt there supposed to be a skin of Shin (useable with Jin) for those who have a Tag2 Prologue save? As well as Blood Vengeance Devil Kazuya & Devil Jin?
@InitialR
Well now I see your point and who he is addressing. But how often does this happen? I'd rather he was straight forward with himself than Sven. If we all know Sven is sugar-coating what he says/leaving cryptic messages like he's the frikkin' Riddler from Batman, then why does Eventhubs even feature him? We all know we're not going to get an answer so I don't see the point even interviewing that dude. But for Harada we get an answer and this is one of those small moments in which he "escalated" his response to address many people.
Full scumbag mode is hardly what he is though.
Are you guys talking about Christian Svenson who is the Senior Vice-President of Consumer Software at Capcom USA? Why do you all keep referring him as PR? Combofiend and Haunts who are in the marketing division are probably more PR.
@98
I don't even know why they post meaningless "updates" from Ono either. All he ever says is "Tee hee, I'm not sure. Let's wait some more. Tee hee.".
I actually like Ono and Sven but when it comes to getting a straight answer from either of them it's a waste of time.
Harada tells it like it is. Next time: Harada goes to a dumb poster's house and punches him in the throat. The crowd cheers!
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