Some attacks cause less block stun on Paul in Street Fighter X Tekken v2013, issue passed along to Capcom's developers

Paul now undisputed top tier.

Well, he is the strongest in the universe =)

Paul pees low-quality beer and poops steak, he eats lead and he breathes the smell of gasoline. Paul comes from an age where men were men and people liked play characters they could have a bear with. None of this school girl, moe, kawaii, bull**** that can be found in every Japanese game. As such, it makes me happy that he is finally playable in SFXT.

*Whole FGC Reads Paul Article*
*Whole FGC mains Paul now after finishing article*
*Whole FGC pretends they've been maining Paul since day 1*

OH SNAP now Capcom will have to patch the patch. v2013.01 coming soon, peeps, no biggies

It's not game breaking nor does hurt Capcom's wallet.

If anything, it's a pretty cool glitch since he is the best in the universe, check it out.

@6 Lol, I agree.

"Know that I am the top fighter IN THE UNIVERSE!"

Good...

"Combofiend: Thanks Zukuu for finding this out, this is quite interesting. I don't know if it's necessarily game breaking as there's only a one frame block reduction..."

TRUE MEANING: Zukuu get a f*ckin life if you think we're gonna spend development costs and go through a whole new recertification process for this 1 frame blockstun reduction on one character who is already unbalanced.

@FuZzY
Good? In what way?

Maybe he'll be banned for this. Stun is supposed be universal to all characters and it may be one frame, but it's still an advantage in the slightest.

PFFT. Hwoarang can take him :I

What about Paul's weird screen freeze? Ex charge cancel into qcf punch always causes that zoom and the pause like the launcher does. Very weird.

It could be intentional, like vanilla SSF4 Adon's quicker rising animation when knocked down.

The biggest imbalance would probably be throwing following a blockstring. Standing Paul would have an extra frame to work it. This is the case since all characters have a 5 frame start up on throws

Gonna pick Paul to beat Lars, Law and Heihachi incredible safe blockstrings. Oh wait... I'm gonna see who Tokido will main first.

I like the idea of more individual characters. This is a way to make characters more individual. There might be a character, that 'is good' against crounching medium punches and another one that 'is good' against Roundhouses.
But if there is only a single character with a bonus like that, i don't like it.

I don't think the glitch will be that much of game changer though..I'd say leave it. Its only when hes standing anyway. Paul isn't even OP honestly.

You know you a tier whore when you jump on the bandwagon for something as little as this smh

Combofiend: "Sorry, Capcom has no interest in patching unless it directly involves money in their pockets."

Well, he is the strongest in the Universe for a reason!

I was curious when someone would start finding bugs in this version.

you know Paul's last name is phoenix

just super say in =)

@ 15 / Danny 2 times

That's not a glitch. That's something that Capcom added every time that move got a counter hit. It should be in one of the patch notes.

Sooo... how is this not game changing? Doesn't this mean that he is able to respond to certain moves better than everyone else? I'm sure someone here on EH can find a scenario where Paul can punish a string that no other character can because of this "glitch", even if the difference is only 1 frame.

I can see it now... "This move is a good tool to use on your opponent, unless your opponent is using Paul."

Desk is probably making a video as we speak.

im just glad that combofiend is doing frame data, that is probably pretty damn reliable. Good stuff capcom, make combofiend do what he does best, analyze the engine etc.

When I watch streams, almost everyone uses Paul. I didn't think I could see more of Paul than I already was, guess I was wrong. SFxT streams will just lose my interest for a while (again) until the hype surrounding him dies down a little. Watching the same character over and over is boring, and Paul is one of the less entertaining to watch IMO.

Paul does ridiculous damage the way it is.

Ridiculous.

Nerf him, LAW, Hwoarang and Guy as well please.

@29

No more nerfs please. I play Paul and Ibuki so I already have a one-character team since Ibuki blows. Why don't people just learn the match up before nerfing characters to oblivion (Juri, Hugo)?

oh god, another patch pc is going to have to wait for...

PC won't get the full game for another 5 years lol

Because people are lazy when it comes to learning. They don't know that losing actually helps you learn...which is a shame. Paul really isn't that awesome anyway...regardless of his good damage. But I must agree that the advantage, no matter how slight, must be changed due to the fact that it is unfair to all other characters.

@27 Combofiend isn't doing frame data zukuu is..

The user "Eternal" from SRK digged deeper into the subject and found presumably what causes this:

"Found the culprit causing the Paul blockstun issue. They messed up paul's guard animation timing. While they moved "Damage" scripts into a common file, "Guard" scripts are still stored inside each individual characters .bac / .bcm files.

Here is what the script header for all other characters (at least the half dozen I checked) looks like (this example is taken from Ken)

<Script Name="GUARD_ML" Offset="0x83f4L" HitboxStart="-0x1" HitboxEnd="0xf" IASA="0x10" End="0x11" _Unk4="0x60" XOffset="0.0" ScriptFlags="0x0" EndsOn_="0x0" Loop_="0x0">

This is what the script header for Paul's Guard_ML

<Script Name="GUARD_ML" Offset="0x85d0L" HitboxStart="-0x1" HitboxEnd="0x11" IASA="-0x1" End="0x11" _Unk4="0x60" XOffset="0.0" ScriptFlags="0x0" EndsOn_="0x0" Loop_="0x0">

If you notice they are basically identical other than the offset (not important AFAIK) and the "IASA" value which judging by what I know from SF4 modding IASA stands for "Interrupt As Soon As" (in the SF4 mod tool it is called "Interrupt at Frame") and the "hitbox end" value is different. I'm not sure what the Hitbox End does as there is no actual hitbox for the move and we've yet to figure out what that value does in SF4. However the interrupt as soon as value being -1 instead of 10 likely is the reason.

Likewise the only applies to Pauls Guard_ML, Guard_MM, not any of his other guard scripts. That is why for instance, Cody's knife c.LP and f..MP have 1F less blockstun but his close s.HP has the same blockstun on paul as everyone else."

I knew Paul was playing a little too good. I saw a couple counters after Paul blocked attacks in some matches that were way too quick.

1 frame , stop crying bitches.

Thanks @36 zukuuSo for the elaboration, but was it intended or by mistake? Does that happen with any other character ?

So some hits lose 1 frame against Standing block. Let them fear frame-trapping a standing Paul! lol! I remember Desk talked about things not working against Paul btw. removing it won't make a big difference.

@39
A 100% unintentional. He is the only one and only this specific guard animation.

And yeah, it doesn't matter much, but it should still be fixed as it's still an advantage. And hey, I'm maining Paul since day 1, and could keep this for myself, enjoying the little advantage, but I still reported it, as I'd feel dirty knowing this while winning. lol

This was intentional.

Ain't the best in the universe for nothin'.

I smell a ban.

This doesn't seem like a terrible deal, since Paul's fastest attack has a 4 frame startup, while several characters have 3 frame attacks - he shouldn't be able to punish things that nobody else can.

@43 This.

@29 yes all 3 of those chacters especially law dude is safe on everything he does and players get rewarded for doing bs moves

doesn't seem like a big deal and i don't get why we can't have more specialized character traits anyway. yall complaining about a very situational 1f blockstun reduction should read up on the way Taka works in VF5. would throw you for a loop.

@4

That pretty much nails it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glcpBN...

Lol people acting like this game is good.

@46

Aw, I wanted to mention Taka. Dude could eat E.Honda and two Ganryu's for breakfast.

those stinking aliens don't stand a chance

"Learn the matchup"
"stop bitching about it"
"It doesn't matter, so start playing instead of crying"

typical responses to Paul's frame advantage.

But God forgives the same is given to the Akumas, Ryus and Kazuyas because OH FÛCK NO ALL HELL WILL BREAK LOOSE. And the same people telling everyone to fûck off here, will be the one bawling when it happens.

So yeah, you guys make a whole lot of sense sometimes...

Does it matter? But I thought this game play just for fun? Why so serious?

@45 thank you