Ed Boon's Twitter account has been quite active lately with fans asking various questions and leaving him comments. One Twitter user mentioned to Boon that a crossover between the Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter franchises must happen one day.
RT @mkwarehouse @noobde MK vs SF HAS to happen someday!EB: It's INEVITABLE... You can quote me on that!;)
— Ed Boon (@noobde) February 8, 2013
One of the recurring issues with a potential Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat crossover is the inclusion of fatalities. Should they be included and if so, how do you guys think both Capcom and NetherRealm Studios should go about handling them?
If the long awaited crossover eventually comes to fruition, what would you most like to see in a Mortal Kombat vs. Street Fighter title?
Leave your thoughts below.
Oh man, I'd kill for this. Hell, it'd even be an excuse for them to finally incorporate SF-style blocking into a real Mortal Kombat game.
Um no thanks. It'll go over as well as MK VS DC since ppl have already said the fatalities are not going to happen for the SF cast - I think it was a q&a with some Capcom reps a few years ago. Not trying to knock MK fans but I hate that franchise, I have never liked the feel and gameplay of those games.
I'd like to see this, but I just can't imagine Capcom being down for it. It's a shame, every time I look at Cody's nonchalant face, I just want to rip his head off.
Ono and Ed Boon both troll alot on twitter lol
Who knows what the future brings us
I think I got an idea of how SF & MK would blend pretty well if they crossover. (PS. If no one likes my idea, thats not my problem)
When comes to gameplay wise both SF & MK will normally do fine, however balancing content can be a real challenge...
I belive for content is that fatalities shouldn't be in the game to balance the SF side, however making the game brutal from X-Rays and blood would balance the MK side.
Controls can be very opinional like you can play the 6 button fighter with the normal SF special controls and block from moving back, or play the 4 button fighter with the normal MK special controls and block from pressing a R1/RB.
For Super Specials would have to be the normal special except press two buttons.
I can see it working if they 1. Remove blood and gore, 2. Characters that wouldnt kill each other have Non-Lethal "Finisher" moves. Most heroes from SF wont have fatalities, unless theyre against someone like Bison, and even then, Chun-Li would rather aresst Bison, unlike Guile, who'd cap his ass.
I think Boon wants this to happen more than Capcom does , since he's mentioned it alot more than Capcom Execs do.
Whatever the result, most might not take it too seriously anyway.
The Mortal Kombaters can water down their gore routine , as they've done it before for the DC-super heroes.
People put the emphaisis that the Street Fighters have to step up to gore , but it's more than likely the Mortal Kombatants have to water down instead.
Oh yeah , Darkstalkers shouldn't crossover with Mortal Kombat, because it's nowhere near as Dark and Gritty as people think they remember it to be. ( It's full of exaggerated and sometimes comical animations ) It's anime aesthetic and cute style goth really does demand it to cross over with something like Blazblue instead ( They even have the same kind of character archetypes and species for crying out loud ) Plus I don't think Darkstalkers have enough Iconic Appeal to be associated with Mortal Kombat either. Normal people will say " Mortal Kombat vs Who ??"
Oh yeah and besides friendship fatalies , no Mortal Kombat characters seem to have a sense of humour besides Johnny Kage, half of Capcom characters thrive of hijinx and humourous interactions for their characterisation.
Mortal Kombat's only suitable crossover buddy who WAS famous and popular around the same time period is Killer Instinct and I'm sure they have qualms about gore and fatalities. If only Rareware/Microsoft can get the lisence through.
Killer Instinct has a closer art aesthetic to MK than any Capcom fighters too.
As long as Netherealms doesn't touch the gameplay mechanics at all I'm cool with it.
Easy, have each developer make a game; that way you'll please both audiences.
My opinions:
1) I'm most worried about the look of it. I don't want SF4's style, nor anything like NRealms. But, I don't think all the models need redone, just SF de-beefed, and MK less real. Aim toward MvsC3's look. That graphic "2.75D" was somehow so much better than SF4's.
2) As for the hyper-violence, #25 is heading toward the right solution. Not so much a "fatality" as just an iconic "End Move."
3) Emphasis on huuuuuge cast. Would rather have it be NETHER REALMS Vs. CAPCOM.
4) Would rather have MARVEL vs. DC (made by CAPCOM)
But I don't want Sub-Zero to rip out my precious shoto's spine! Kappa
Jokes aside, I wouldn't mind seeing this happen, but I have to agree that Darkstalkers would better fit a crossover with MK. Although it might be kinda weird seeing Felicia do a fatality haha.
@37
After making UMVC3 I want Capcom to stay far away from DC comics I rather let Netherealm do it there better with the casual fans and hardcore.
@37 I'm with you on a Marvel vs DC made by Capcom. I'd buy that in a heartbeat!
Gameplay=Capcom (they execute it better)
Story= Neatherealm (They execute it ALOT better)
@30 I agree with every single word you typed, well maybe not fatalies because that's a misspelling, but other than that you had me at "I think" lol
Eh unless Capcom does it than i guess i would fine..
but then again to make the game makes sense you either have to keep or take away the fatalities.
Ok maybe this is not such a good idea cause you have pureley street fighter or mortal kombat. Thats why fighting game vs fight game crossovers never really happen. Capcom vs SNK was good cause the system is so similar to each other.
Premise: some unspeakable evil has overcome the fighters at a sf tournament making them evil (think evil ryu only... demon ryu or something to that effect). So the street fighter cast now is not only capable but want to perform fatalities. Either akuma drank some expired milk and his evil amplified so much it reached out and possesed "characters in the game" or some ancient evil blah blah, either way... the final boss would be called "Shoki" some demon of all demons or something like that... would be pretty cool if you ask me.
I am an avid fighter fanatic. Street fighter being my absolute favorite but also absolutely loving killer instinct, mk, blazblue, kof, vs series etc.. i truly love the artwork and characters most of all but the various mechanics intrigue me as i love combay and strategy (yeah i play chess lol) with that said oh wait, love jojos, and not to be redundant but my favorite was capcom vs snk 2 EO (i was once ranked in the top 10 on xbox live for that game, which believe me isnt saying shiat compaired to the real community, but i feel i could hold my own for the most part ;) im simply stating to give you a rough idea of my personal interest in the genre) anyway my point is i really wish people would have more of an open mind and not get stuck in being "too serious" which i notice to simply be ignorance most of the time.
I really think the mk characters are extremely well done and have gumption. Would love to see this collab of two of my favorite arcade memories! Where there is a will theres a way i just hope they dont mess it up which is far too common than it should be. Put the passion back into it.
Also keep in mind that the target demographic" wouldnt be the majority of members registered to a fighting game community site much the way gamestops demographic is not really gamers (blame that last comment on me being degreed in psychology if it tends to seem opposing)
Lets do this mkxsf thing already! Fun fun fun!
Please forgive grammar im on my damn phone :)
Ed Boon REALLY wants to team up with capcom, so they can teach him how to make a GOOD fighter.
Ryu vs liu Kang:
Bicycle kick vs hurrican kick
fire ball vs fire ball
red Head band vs red Head band
Johnny cage vs fei long:
movie star vs movie star
chun li vs sonya blade:
sexy cop vs sexy cop
bison vs shao kahn or shang tsung
Bad @@@ bosses
guys that try to grasp immortality
whole lot of cool match ups.
People say that Street Fighter isn't gory enough and Mortal Kombat is too gory, well, what if both of them were sort of rebooted for the purposes of this game? Like, what if all the characters in SF and all the characters from MK were redesigned so that they both meet in the middle?
They could all be made more realistic, or they could all be made more cartoony, or they could be made steampunky for all I care. Anyways, if the two franchises were reimagined together, then it could work.
I seem to be one of the very few that doesn't care about blood in MK and be a major fan of the series. Anyway, if it'd be a 4 button fighter like CVS1 was with grooves or something with Capcom working on the engine, it could work. Storytelling, unlockables, downloadable content delivery, extras, advertising, and patching should be in NRS's hands, however.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpFdP5...
You have no idea what you're about to unleash
They don't fit together in any way
Nothing good can come from this
How u include fatalities without ruining Street fighters wholesome in tact.
Zombify them like they did with Liu Kang or Evil versions ala Evil Ryu.
It's just a spin-off so it doesn't need to be 100% in tact.
Story reason some sort of darkness comes over them and made evil or twisted, or are turned to zombies.
Problem: MK is too violent. They don't got "super moves". Only "you die now" moves. Makes it hard to collaborate with dudes because
1) Fans don't want Ryu punching Chun's head off, nor do they want Dhalsim burning Sakura to death.
2) A character like Guile, Chun, Sakura, Ibuki, Dudley, Ryu, Dhalsim, etc. wouldn't do a fatality to begin with. Hell, there are only like...around 6-7 bad guys in the SF universe that'd even consider taking lives (Gen's not really a bad guy, but he counts too). We'd have "brutalities" again (lame).
3) All MK dudes do is brutally murder each other. Sub-Zero NOT freezing someone's lower body to rip off the top half would be out of his element, and would kind of ruin it for MK fans.
If they did do this, I'm FOR SURE not buying it. Just like MK vs. DC. Stay free.
Make it....NAO!!!!! As log as it's not time out cros jab...I mean, SFxT. MK vs DC sucked because it was 3D, now NRS are back to their roots with a flawless 2D MK9. I see no reason why this would not work. Fatalities can be toned down or simply removed. Anyone that doesn't like the idea is simply a dumb ass Street Fighter purist, or Mortal Kombat purist. Right now both SF and MK have the 2 best fighting games of the moment. If Capcom leaves their pocket raping ways out of the equation, both teams are experienced and smart enough to make it work. Plus NRS have proved they're willing to make a change, it didn't work with the 3D bs, so they went with 2D/3D gameplay and made MK9 a flawless fighting game. Same with SF, 3D was their worst idea ever, switched to 2D/3D, and again delivered a flawless game. This will happen some day, whether people like it or not. NRS is on a role making some of the best fighting games available, and Capcom is way too greedy to pass on an opportunity like this. Best American fighting game vs best Asian fighting game.
No, the games are too different.
Maybe SF: The Movie vs. UMK3.
IMO a vs game shouldn't just be about putting characters in a game. It should be about uniting fans of both series. If Capcom makes a Capcom vs SNK 3, KoF fans should be able to bring over AT LEAST 80% of their skills from that game without ever touching a Capcom fighter.
def a must ,but im not sure if fatalities would work with SF.
XD In this thread we can notice who doesn't know jack about MK. All the complaints the dumb asses of the community are about fatalities. News flash, there is absolutely no reason why fatalities would be in the game in the first place. And second, there are "super moves" in MK, called "X-Rays", in which nobody kills nobody. Please inform yourselves before you write ignorant comments like #78. The only huge difference between the 2 games right now are breakers and a blocking system. Other than those, they can reach a middle ground easily.
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1) I'm no purist. I just don't like MK's overly done brutality. MK without fatalities, however, is SF without Hadokens. It won't work.
2) 2 best fighting games RIGHT NOW? SF and Tekken. Holla.
3) What has Nether Realms done for the FGC yet? Even RIGHT NOW, I'm watching a THIRD Capcom event with Ono attending. The hell does Nether Realms do? Charge five bucks for one dlc char! (HEEEYYOOOOO!!!!)
4) On a roll? 1 is a roll?
5) Slow YOUR roll for a sec and realize that it's a dumb idea. X it with something that'd allow it. DC...Killer Instinct...Dark Stalkers...even Marvel. But SF? Nope. I give no fks. Just nope.
Edit: X-Ray moves was just MK's way of ripping off SFIV with their MOST RECENT TITLE. Quit acting like MK's been on top of this stuff since the arcade days. They JUST got their act together. Once. Not great insurance. Besides, gouging out someone's eyes and breaking their ribs is pretty damn overboard for a special move. I always wondered how they even fight with gouged out eyes and broken innards...
BTW #78 what the hell is wrong with you..you are a dumb-ass..
While I'd prefer MK vs KI, if only to have something completely different from whatever's out right now, I won't hold my breath on that one. Didn't SFII have characters coughing up blood before there was an MK, & didn't it do battle damage on characters before MK implementing it midfight recently? Personally, fatalities are unimportant, but I wouldn't be against it. These are only well known video game characters, not iconic heroes who have 50+ years of history, as was the case with MK vs DC, so why not have fun having them mutilate each other. This would work if Netherrealms handled the story, visuals, & bonus content, while Capcom handled the animation & game mechanics. THAT would be win-win in my book, a team effort, no need for two mediocre games.
I love MK, but I do not want an MKvsSF like so many others want.
Also, #5 said what needed to be said.
man, now that we've seen Mario Versus Sonic, MK vs. SF it's the last big crossover yet to be! i'd like it to be a two part crossover like in street x tekken: MK VS SF made by netherrealm studios, with unreal engine, strange input commands and a lot of violence and SF vs. MK with super combos... or maybe a Madworld like of over the top comic violence and gore...
@6 Deyrax.
Hahaha.. I LOL'ed from your comment bro!
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Oh and while we're in the topic of crossovers. I think these things need to happen too: VF vs TEKKEN vs DOA; And the ultimate crossover which I, and many others have been wanting to happen all these years: MARVEL vs DC!
Please no. I'll never touch a SF game again if they go ahead with that. Do MK vs MLP instead, Mr.Boon.
I dont understand all the hate here.
MK vs DC was not that great because if was on a 3D field. (that side stepping gimmick) I always hated that.
If this is done, Im sure it would be done using SF IV's Capcom fighting engine and not MK9's engine.
The MK characters can easily be adjusted to fit that style. I think it can be done.
Will it have Fatalities? No. Im sure it wont, but it will have supers and ultras similar to those.
But I would LOVE to see a Marvel VS DC made by capcom finally...
I would love for this to happen, just so the war could end. I honestly wouldn't care for blood or fatalities. What makes the game for me is its characters and gameplay. Plus i'd only love for Capcom to do it, is because MK characters would get some proper stances for once, different animations. More personality added, basically with what happened to the Tekken characters in SFxT.
#84 Tekken over MK? Not a chance, to me the only games that comes close to either SF or MK are UMvC3 and KOF, but to each his own. Besides even though I do love Tekken, I preffer SCV.
NRS dlc (all 4 characters), for $15 dollars, plus $5 dollars of costumes thats $20 total. SFxT, 12 characters, half of them with the exact same moves as ones already on the game, and most are re-used models from SFIV, $20, plus $15 for 2 costumes set, and an extra $7-$10 for the same sets for the dlc characters, which is a total of $60, which means you spent $120 for the game and extras, NOT COUNTING the ridiculous gem packs, and not counting dlc from SSFIV or UMvC3. Get your facts straight before bashing on other companies for being "expensive" while your beloved Capcom is raping your pocket and releasing half assed games like SFxT.
NRS started to focus on the FGC with MK9, or at least prove they mean it, completely enhancing their game to fit the FGC standards(the way it should've always been), unlike with those bs 3D games (and trust me, with the exception of those, I've always been an MK fan). Capcom on the other hand now focuses on how much money they can squeeze out of your pocket, and nothing else. And SFxT approaching more the casual fans than the FGC is proof of that. And this comes from a guy who's #1 game is SF, not MK (though I love both to death, with the exception of their pathetic 3D attempts.)
You have a point, MK wouldn't be the same without the fatalities, but they've proven they're not afraid of trying new things, specially if it comes to a SF/MK hybrid where the could end up having no fatalities and I'd have no problem with that. It will be MK vs SF, not Mk featuring SF or MKxSF/SFxMK (which implies it will have either MK or SF mechanics). As long as it's not another pathetic SFxT, or any sort of tag only fighting game (nothing against MvC or TTT, I like those), I'm all in for the idea.
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