Top players Ricky Ortiz, PR Balrog, and Justin Wong talk early tiers for Street Fighter X Tekken v2013

Paul is viable and a strong anchor, but not top tier. He has an ass neutral game and the worst a2a in the game. Still, he is tremendously better then in pre 2013 and I'd certainly place him in the upper half of the tier list.

You know who is being slept on, Ibuki. Sike, she is too garbage in this game.

definately agree with ricky, law is indeed scrub character of the year. All his combo starters lead to big damage and are safe on block. good job leaving that in capcom.

haha they called Jwong a cheater for using bum ass alissa

I do agree Alisa will be up there later in the game I think she is high mid right now but I think I have to agree with the teir list ed made for now

Ok, I was thinking for a moment that it was just me who’s having problems with Law. I hate him already and I’ve only been playing the game for a week now (since initially trying out and putting it away last year).

early tier lists are going to be wrong 99% of the time but it's fun to talk about some theories.

Lol at someone actually thinking Chun would be top tier. She is high tier but isn't good enough at enough stuff to make her top.

law x jin is EZ mode.

@8 i totally agree, its just harmless fun theorizing what characters might be the strongest later on

dudley aint no top tier, he has a lot of demons and bad matchups in this game, this is coming from a dudley player from sfxt since dlc came out, he's probably mid tier but not top

guy, law, lili, alisa, jin are definitely top tier

paul is mid-tier, im destroying all paul players online, after discovering his shenanigans for 2 days

who cares about tiers, they dont apply to 99% of the people who play the game anyways.

@#13 And these top players discussing it are the 1%. Your point?

chunli aint no top tier too, a lot of characters can pressure her and punish her shenanigans, its so easy to figure her out since all her tactics and strategy are still based from ssf4ae, so she's mid-tier

as for kuma... the damn bear is already damn strong, still a lot of undiscovered tech after the patch update, just gonna wait for sethlolol shenanigans with him

Guy top tier? c'mon i can name 10 char better than him
like Nina Lili Hworang

Oh come on.

Sure, they're top players and probably should be put on some kind of pedestal - but this is extremely early days.

Why won't anyone bring up Poison or Hugo? BibleThump

But really, it is still pretty early. Give it a few more weeks, see the results of some tournaments for a decent idea of a tier list, then just work from there.

@#16 Enryl
i guess u havnt played a pro guy player yet! against nina 7/3 matchup on guy favor, against lili 5/5, against hwoarang 6/4 guy favor

nina and hwoarang are good but has only limited potentials and has some faults

Lol @Ricky's profile pic hahaha

Law is just like Fei long, he's very solid, can be very safe and deals a decent amount of damage.
His Flipkick is as easy as Fei's flame kick, his shaolin kicks might as well be a rekka and his full screen Dynamic entry is the same as a Chicken wing. Only thing he's missing is a command grab.

lol @#20

Well don't go crying on me when my god tier King is whooping everyone's ass!

Lilli is scary. She feels almost like Law except she has even scarier mixups.

@23
Welcome Back.
Did you enjoy your time off?

dont understand why Law is still safe on block. My friend who is An A+ with Law tries to deny it so hard but yet he's still spamming the same move because I cant punish it and he knows it cant be punished.

Since when are tweet conversations news?

@ #27

I agree.

Low risk (safe), high reward (easy hit-confirm into high damage) stuff has no place in fighting games, god knows why some of that garbage is still in some of these games.

I play Hwoarang, and I feel like he's somewhere around top 10.

Never believed my Jin would be top tier, as for alisa. Why is that?

Better nerf Hugo again these top tiers aren't unwinnable against yet

I'm not doubting the credentials of these guys, but they are not the best players at this game just yet. I just saw Pr Rog get his ass handed to him by COOLKID93 (highest american ranked in XBL), and none of this guys did a damn thing agains Sethlol. If you really wanna know stuff about this game, go ask Sethlol, Tatsu, Jibbo, Ryan Hunter, etc.

Alisa is retarded cheap. Retarded.

@29

Exactly!

There's a reason why all of these players over 20K are picking up Law now. I have to use up all of my meter for Alpha Counters against him becuase I'll be blocking all damn day if I don't.

I just started playing this game seriously, but after playing with him a bit and watching that dude play with him at the Capcom event last night, I feel like Kazuya has potential to be a top character.

Law is too easy to bait and punish! He's good but the exposure with him will shut down 9-10 players/law.

Guy is a beast! In the lab with kaz on point and guy on anchor meter less combos are easily 400 range off abc. With 2 bars it's over 5 hundred and put the pandora set up on guy and omg!

Example of a bnb that anybody can grab half bar or more.
Kazuya jmp fierce st.hp-gf-crch fierce -ex slaughter hook- tag cancel guy in crouch medium x2 ex spin kick. I'm telling you guys too much damage!
Or replace tag cancel with pandora crouch medium punch into ex spin kick- super.
The characters that are beast are the ones who keep the counter down. Big damage low combo ftw.

Nice

I use Alisa myself. I think she'll be high up but not top tier. she doesn't quite have the guessing games up close as a lot of the other tekken characters do. plus her two combos into chainsaws can be interrupted before the saws even connect as long as the move is about 3 frames. Besides, the fact that she can chip people to death in Destruction Mode just makes me laugh at people who always wait for the opponent to make the first move. Final Verdict: Alisa is almost like a female cody, she can make you nervous on the defensive but has problems when the roles are reversed.

Someone fill me in on how Alisa is cheap? Besides her zoning game I admit that's good, but is that all?

Oh and agree with @33 they all didn't play as much as those guys, so I hardly care about tiers anymore.

Whoa, I'm in the article. Haha

I couldn't agree with @33 more.

I hate when random nobodies in the comments talk about they game like they made it and know everything. Where's your facts? Oh I'm sorry I'm sorry, I didn't realize you we're a big time online player sir. Don't think so highly of yourself because you have an unsupported opinion.

Anyways... The rise of Fei Lawng. I may try him out if I can make a team for him. Why not...

Guy is definitely top tier.

Nobody talks about Cody anymore. Bad Intent on the Capcom Stream did good.. until he faced a decent player who blew him up instantly.

Cody is mid tier at best now and no one wants to admit that not having any safe lows or overheads and a slow walk speed and poor mid screen damage (can't break 300 without meter without doing a jumping heavy attack) and the fact everyone got buffs to anti airs makes Cody's b.MP less special seeming(still strong but lots of strong AAs now) these all combined to make Cody a character you can simply beat by holding downback or running away. :|

45: He's still got frame traps with f. MP. One of the best frame traps I've seen in the game, now that Heihachi's lame ass trap (the free one after that special move) got nerfed out. His damage is also way good because people confirm into his combos off of mediums and heavies half the time. He's mid tier, but mid tier in this game isn't exactly a bad thing. The balancing's pretty tight, so you can do some work with Cody. I didn't give up on Ryu, so don't give up on him. =P

I've been maining Cody in every game he's ever been in (likewise with morrigan), they could make him poo tier and I'd still try to make it work. When it comes down to it, as long as a character isn't game breakingly broken then you can still win with them, you just have to put in more effort then the other guy. It comes down to skill really.

I've been maining Alisa since she became available and I've been saying she's really good. Now after the patch she's even better, but considering just about everyone else got better, I don't think that changes her position much. Chainsaws are still alpha counter bait and her AA is average at best (though at least she finally has one). I think she's got an answer to just about every situation, but spacing, timing, and good reads are still necessary. I wouldn't call her cheap, just really good.

Justin Wong was annoying me so much with his Alisa/Elena team. Airborn safe HK poke with Elena all day, cheap Justin is cheap. In other news, yes Ibuki is God Tier! God Aweful Tier~.

I think the balance is a little off still, some characters need a slight nerf on certain moves

Still too many safe moves, some can even lead to follow ups
Some chars need slight buffs

But for me it's been pretty frustrating I main ryu n ken lol and some of the nerfs on ryu have sadden me lol
Cr.mp and cr.mk was nerfd with more frames and a smaller hit box
His combos have been made a little more difficult due to added frames and a missed link in a block string can be punished pretty bad against someone like chun

Ryu still feels ok but I just felt the roaster balance overal was a little off

Ken feels better but compared to other chars he doesn't seem that strong

I think I would just like to see certain chars nerf in the sense of they have too much safe pressure but I can't see capcom doing another balance update anytime soon so it's back to the drawing board and training mode with my stale team lol

Cody is ass now - at least in comparison to other good characters. He's still somewhat solid, but there are sooooo many better characters then him now. He has NOTHING going for him that makes him stand out.

f.mp is 0 on block, dunno how that enables "amazing frame traps" or something.

I've done his framedata the otherday, check here for a 50% finished v2013 updated framedata, and soon-to-include all DLC characters (currently Cody and Blanka done)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/c...