Marvel vs. Capcom 2 Romneto vs. Beavith - MSP mirror set

Why is the tag on this TvC?

Cause I clicked the wrong thing in the admin. Oops, changing it now.

When's SkullGirls?

MSP vs MSP. We've surely never seen this before.

Marvel3 Magneto doesn't even come close to the real thing.

Hated how MVC2 was all about assist spamming and revolving around the same used characters. MVC1 had the best assist system where you had a limit of times you can use assist, MVC3's was okay because if your assist got caught, they took double the amount of damage and you couldn't spam because of the time it took to recover.

#5

Are you high? MVC3 Magneto is an all around better character than MVC2 Magneto.

@6 MvC2 isn't about assist spamming, it's just heavily relying on your assist to do your attacks.
Example: Psylocke to get your opponent in the air to start your Magneto ROM. Cyclops to get your opponent in the air to get your Storm-Sentinel DHC. Captain Commando because chances are, your opponent will be rushing you down and it's a great assist to get them off of you.
Pretty much Psylocke is just as important as Magneto with MSP, Cyclops is just as important as Storm with Matrix, etc.

@7 I agree mvc3 mag is superior to mvc2 mag but not as fun to watch.

I'm sad that this is the level of gameplay of mvc2 these days. It used to be fun to watch but now its just mashers. Guess the game is officially dead. The player on the right seems like he never even played mvc2 in his life. The player on the left just kept messing up combos and mashing too. Dunno how anyone would watch this for an hour, so boring.

@8
That said though, all that happens is assist spamming regardless of what purpose they're supposed to be used for and since it's hard to punish assist, why not spam them? Atleast they learnt from this and changed it in the third one. Assists in MVC2 were far too abusable.

Psyclocke?

how about I slap your s**t?

Psylocke*.

@10 It's not hard to punish assist at all, especially if you have Cable/Captain Commando/Doom assist. When your opponent's Psylocke misses you, call Captain Commando to get them off + it does awesome damage.

#10

You wrote that it is hard to punish assists, and that assists are too abusable in MvC2. Did you even watch the video? I killed his assists 100% many times. We were both using MSP, so how do you explain the fact that I killed his assists frequently/consistently whereas he only killed my assists a few times?

#9

You either didn't watch the video or you are simply hating. I am not a masher. I got 2 perfects in the video and performed several advanced combos. I also did many reset sequences that require a great deal of precision. Furthermore, in the video info section (under the video) it clearly states that Beavith is LEARNING MSP. I didn't say he was an expert. Anyone who knows about MvC2 would know that I wasn't mashing, and that Beavith is a beginner.

Where are your MvC2 videos? What qualifies you to assess player skill levels in the game? I got two perfects in the video. Perfects aren't performed by mashing. Neither are advanced combos and deadly reset sequences. Those require skill, concentration, and precise timing. The overall score was 49-1. If both players were mashing, the score would have been a LOT closer. No offense to Beavith. I commend him for having a positive attitude about learning.

Brett,

Don't let these kids get to you. You, me, and all other real Marvel players know the level of gameplay in these videos. It was an excellent set and very fun to watch. Apparently MvC2 videos have the same stigma as the game itself. At high levels, 2% of players see the insane execution and metagame that go into sets like these. The other 98% see mashing and "assist spamming".

Dat UOP

lol Marvel

Really guys? Really? I am going to need you guys to learn the difference between "spam", "heavy use of", and the actual definition of "mashing" before commenting on MvC2 gameplay. To spam, is to reapetedly use without a purpose in mind. For example, We have all played that one person that runs team scrub that calls CapCom even though you are clear across the screen with no intentions of rushing in. Because, the assist is being called the second it is available for absolutely no reason that can be called spam. Even of in reality i just means he has no clue how to proerly use the assist. And mashing is self-explanitory. In other words, if there is a combo coming out of what is happening, it probably is not mashing.

still pretty boring no matter the skill involved watching two mss teams duke it out gets lame pretty quick

#11 Wow you must be sensitive as hell if you'd slap someone over something as small as a spelling error.

Honestly, Shredalicious said it best. Those who understand, and those who are looking to learn & improve their game, they see what is going on. Otherwise it is of wasted breath to explain and defend yourself to those who can't comprehend the higher levels of the meta game. This is real marvel. Handle it Brett!

#7

No, I think he's right. MvC3 Magneto is good, but MvC2 Magneto is legendary. 3 is just hard to block, 2 is basically unblockable. Imagine vanilla MvC3 Wolverine+Akuma, upgrade it, and you have MvC2 Magneto+Psylocke.

Don't know why poeple complain about this being boring. Brett clearly said in the video description Beavith is learning, so, if you chose to watch the video that's what you will get, someone in the process of trying to get good at a VG. Besides that, great set, would rather watch some mid-tier MVC2 vids, but at least it's still getting posts here.

I'm not sure what SPAM is. I think that's a canned meat? Anyways, mashing brings randomness. If you notice you see Romneto doing some combos/resets numerous times over throughout the video. Either he has a special 1 button that he pushes to make those come out or he knows what he is trying to do. I think the latter. This isn't UMVCFREE, its MVC2.

i love the mvc2 vs umvc3 salt so good on fries!

mvc2 Has Magnus mvc3 just has magneto

@13
Yeah of course the assist will die eventually. After chipping away at them slowly, the 1000th time they're called out they finally die. Too much of a spam fest to be enjoyable and it always revolves around the same characters.

Assist abuse totally ruined this game for me. They should have done what mvc1 did and had a limit or something.

#27 obviously has never played MvC2 ever in his life.

WOW that combo at 11:41 was SICK

@14 You need to calm down bro. You are fine at the game but the matches are boring as sh!t. The guy on the right was clearly terrible so its not fun to watch at all. Like you said 49-1, who wants to watch that? It could have been justin wong vs random guy and its still boring if thats the end score.

And I stand by my point, the level of your mvc2 play compared to the golden age of mvc2 players is no comparison. Ace, Soo, Reset, Yipes, Crizzle, Y2J and others had MSPs far more advanced than yours. You can't argue that. So again, I'm sad that this is the level of mvc2 play these days if you are one of the "best" players now. No offense to you. The Potter, Bill, Chunk session was pretty awesome, that's some high level play. I want to see more of that.

#23

I think people are calling it boring because the matches are basically the state and stigma of MVC2. Not many people care or get excited about yet another MSP/MSS/MST/Thrax/Scrub/Matrix match. If people want to see that, they can pretty much look up any past MVC2 tournament.

While I can see people being interested in the low-tier matches, all this is just to try and get MVC2 some attention. It's admirable, but in the end, not many people are going to care about it.

@29
you sound mad because comment 27 speaks the truth lol.

@Jerry
Cool story bro. You wanna back up your comments with evidence now?
Truth hurts don't it?

#27

Assists don't always die eventually in MvC2. In many instances, they get killed very quickly. I doubt you even watched the video. I killed his assists many times, very quickly most of the time. Assists cannot be called mindlessly without facing significant risk in MvC2. Anybody who understands the game knows that basic fact.

#33

You wrote that now MvC2 is just mashers. That is what I argued against. I never said that I am on the skill level with the all time MvC2 greats. I am not a masher though. Not even close.

As I wrote in the video information, Beavith is a beginner. I played him because he wanted to play an MSP player who is experienced and knows the matchup. I do know a lot about the team and I am skilled at using it. I realize that I am not Yipes/Chris Schmidt/Mixup/Soo, but that doesn't mean I am a masher. I have excellent execution and I know what I am doing when I play.

It's foolish and naive of you to expect to see the same level of MvC2 skills in 2013 as there were when the game was at the peak of its popularity. There are hardly any MvC2 tournaments anymore, and most of the best players either decided to play other games (SF4/umvc3/MK) or they quit playing fighters altogether. Either way, there are still competent and dangerous MvC2 players. Also, you complained about dropped combos - online is completely different than offline. There is always some degree of lag/input dropout. That usually goes without saying, but clearly you don't know that.

Again, who are you to be calling me a masher? Where are your videos? If all you do is compare me to the greatest MvC2 players of all time, then of course you won't think I am any good. Still, that's a stupid way to analyze skill level. Even when MvC2 was very popular, there were very few players who could compete with the all time greats. That doesn't mean those players were mashers.

@Romneto

According to the comments, I just need to learn how to mash harder than you. Finally I have the knowledge to be great at MvC2!