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'The secret to my success? Limitless talent' - Yun combos and setups that may leave you wondering why he isn't being nerfed harder

Posted by MajinTenshinhan
December 20, 2013 at 10:13 a.m. PST

While it's no secret that Yun is a very good character, it's important to not forget just how scary his setups can be. What luck, then, that LiangHuBBB decided to throw together a highlight reel from player Littlegirl1994, with some marvelous Yun play.

Hit the jump to check out the video, filled with very impressive combos, resets and setups, including taunts midway through the action.

While the headline about characters perhaps needing more nerfs is purely in jest, there's an argument to be made for a lot of character having their potential underestimated, or perhaps even entirely untapped. Let us know in the comments what you think about this impressive Yun play.

Thanks to LiangHuBBB for sending this in.

Comments

chipndip said on December 20, 2013 at 10:15 a.m.
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Not gonna say "First", but let it be known that I am...

...to say that Yun punched Chun in the tit preeeeetty hard. <:X

#1
Grevier said on December 20, 2013 at 10:20 a.m.

This is going to bring so much hate comments...

#2
DORMWORM said on December 20, 2013 at 10:26 a.m.

would have been 1st but had to log in
answer the phone
have a lifffffe
nerfffffff himmmmmmm

im a hater right Now

#3
djm0001 said on December 20, 2013 at 10:26 a.m.

Yun's got some Hattori Hanzo shoulder blades

#4
korosuuu said on December 20, 2013 at 10:28 a.m.

.... not gonna hate, but....

he knows like 5 different lp.shoulder crossup/front hitting setups ?
and that makes yun a viable character choice in high level gameplay ?
I dont think so... ^^

But sure... obviously yun needs to be nerfed harder ! XD

At this point I dont see yun being better then buttom-mid-tier in USF4.

Kazounoko will make it work tho.

#5
NvhA said on December 20, 2013 at 10:33 a.m.

Agreed about this being nothing new. Shoulder shenanigans only can get you so far and there's a reason you don't see this too often at high level.

You know all hope is lost when even Kaz is changing to Yang in Ultra based on current build.

#6
RedEther said on December 20, 2013 at 10:35 a.m.

Couldn't get past that horrible music choice sorry.

#7
ChunLiliLover said on December 20, 2013 at 10:40 a.m.

That twerp! How dare he hit Chunny like that! I hope they nerf him into the toilet!

#8
Sage_Liebert said on December 20, 2013 at 10:43 a.m.

What is this travesty? Yun still has combos? NERF him!!! Nerf him to oblivion!!!

and Yang to since he's guilty by association.

#9
caruga said on December 20, 2013 at 10:44 a.m.

You'd see these resets in tournaments if they took out the dp shortcut.

#10
cab1020 said on December 20, 2013 at 10:45 a.m.

Opponents gave him too much respect, if they would've blocked less I'm almost sure he wouldn't have tried these setups.

#11
FightDirty said on December 20, 2013 at 10:50 a.m.

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#12
soggytoast said on December 20, 2013 at 10:52 a.m.

The cross ups like this mess with the inputs so sometimes your reversal doesn't come out. You have to REALLY know it's coming and start mashing like crazy to stop this.

#13
samuraix025 said on December 20, 2013 at 10:53 a.m.

Someone needs to nerf that abortion of early 90s music

#14
Aqua said on December 20, 2013 at 10:57 a.m.

"Yun combos and setups that may leave you wondering why he isn't being nerfed harder"

can we keep this type of tabloid drivel away from EH? i've noticed it creeping in more and more in news titles here.

what's next? "RYU PLAYERS HATE HIM!", "CLICK HERE TO LEARN HOW YOU CAN TOO TAC INFINITE YOUR WAY TO SUCCESS", "5 ADVICES THAT WILL IMPROVE YOUR TOURNAMENT PEFORMANCE" etc.

#15
franciscois said on December 20, 2013 at 10:57 a.m.

I really think that AE 2012 Yun is pretty well balanced, buy maybe the command grab nerf is ok, it's not that much

#16
EnsignHiro said on December 20, 2013 at 11:03 a.m.

leave him alone already jeez this is why people stop playing chars. you find stuff out about them and all of a sudden its nerf fest.

#17
djm0001 said on December 20, 2013 at 11:07 a.m.

I agree, when I saw the headline I was expecting to see some broken tech, not stuff that's been around for a while just compiled into one video.

I feel the same way about like 90% of the Ultra SF4 posts, so much recycled information, and none of it is official

#18
IMainDanHibiki said on December 20, 2013 at 11:10 a.m.

Or my personal favourite 'Step Up Your Lame! ChrisG Teaches You The Ultimate Way to Soul Fist the Competition!'

#19
bagel_bytez said on December 20, 2013 at 11:11 a.m.

Yah Ehubs! How dare you try to make your subject heads sound interesting! Did you know when I clicked on the link the site actually took me to a page showing street fighter videos! The nerve... Lol you choobs /\, start your own website then. name your headlines whatever you want lololol

#20
oghaggard said on December 20, 2013 at 11:15 a.m.

The only thing I honestly don't like about Yun (playing against him, not as him) is that he's got like 38 target combos. You see Yuns doing all of these fancy, damaging combos, and then you try him out in training mode and you see that it's all chains... lol

That's not to say he doesn't have a lot of links, etc., but I just think the number of target combos he has is excessive.

#21
Starlette said on December 20, 2013 at 11:16 a.m.

these mix up don't work versus goods players, stop talking about nerf from a "combovideo"
but its still a good player :p

#22
oghaggard said on December 20, 2013 at 11:17 a.m.

Did you really just say "jungle music?"

#23
RedRapperSux said on December 20, 2013 at 11:19 a.m.

Not as impressive as I thought it would be.

#24
CyberAthlete said on December 20, 2013 at 11:20 a.m.

Eh the balrog player could easily headbutt out of pretty much all of that he just got shook

#25
djm0001 said on December 20, 2013 at 11:24 a.m.

interesting and misleading are two different things. Yes, I understand that not everybody is aware of this stuff and how to deal with it which is why it's great that stuff like this does get posted, but with a subject header like that people will watch the video and react by saying "wow that really is broken and this guy needs a nerf", without truly understanding what they're watching. This video is only showing one gimmick that Yun can use, which yeah can be great if used online but it's not a broken tool should cause Yun more nerfs.

#26
Pachendrix said on December 20, 2013 at 11:25 a.m.

First of all, Yun is a scary character. Second, can someone please shoot this whining bltches (all the scum bags complaining about the tittles), in the head?

#27
Necreon said on December 20, 2013 at 11:25 a.m.

Some changes I'd made to Yun:

* Remove the crossup shoulders. It's a glitch, it doesn't supposed to work the way it does and players exploit it, and for some reason CAPCOM doesn't cares. It's way OP, and why isn't Guy's shoulders work like this if this is intended to work like this? Because it's NOT.

* Dashpunch more punishable on block or remove armor break. Too safe to spam this BS, the recovery is ridicolous.

* Blockstun reduced on all normal MPs.

#28
djm0001 said on December 20, 2013 at 11:26 a.m.

and maybe this is a bad example and the title isn't over the top at all, but in general I still agree with Aqua #15

#29
BlackOnyxThunder said on December 20, 2013 at 11:28 a.m.

Dat thumbnail! LOL and a Yun "nerf" really? But dat thumbnail... poor Chun...

#30
djm0001 said on December 20, 2013 at 11:29 a.m.

sorry you're being forced to read our comments and you retaliate to the "whining" by "whining" yourself? grow up dude, none of this is senseless whining if you actually back your argument, but this is the internet after all

#31
EMPEROR_COW said on December 20, 2013 at 11:31 a.m.

I guess everyone knows what I would say .. lol

#32
coddog said on December 20, 2013 at 11:34 a.m.

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#33
BlackOnyxThunder said on December 20, 2013 at 11:38 a.m.

But in all honesty... Yun's combos mainly consist of pokes and juggles, why does he need "nerfing" in the first place?

#34
killerface said on December 20, 2013 at 11:40 a.m.

Again these Yun resets? You already posted this before http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/oc...

#35
so13 said on December 20, 2013 at 11:53 a.m.

1/ it's a risky move you can mash a DP it works

2/ lol it's -9 on block, no one spam this at high level

3/ why ?

4/ i'm sure you're a 500pp player

#36
DORMWORM said on December 20, 2013 at 11:57 a.m.

NERFFFF THAT MOTHERFER!!!!!!NERFFFFFFFF HIM NOW CAPCOM
STOP EVERYTHING STOP ULTRA AND 5TH CHARACTER CREATION
NERF YUN!!!!!!!

hehehehehehe hahahhahaha haahhhh hack hackka cough cough cough

#37
ihatewhiners said on December 20, 2013 at 12:30 p.m.

nice vid but who calls themselves littlegirl thats a man weird

#38
Wardog said on December 20, 2013 at 12:37 p.m.

That what happen if you don't give Yun some leg action. Lol

Pow! Right in the breasts.lol

#39
ihatewhiners said on December 20, 2013 at 12:45 p.m.

yuns tit-stun was on display for all too see at the expense of ms li

#40
EMP_BrokeTier_Triforce said on December 20, 2013 at 12:50 p.m.

"Yun combos and setups that may leave you wondering why he isn't being nerfed harder"

Yeah because somebody using gimmick resets, wasting meter, and not optimizing damage to style on online scrubs that can't block cross-ups makes the character worthy of being nerfed even harder right?

If anything, Yun needs small buffs. @Necreon, are you serious? I hope you're trolling. Cross under shoulder is a gimmick and most players who have EVER played against Yun can see it coming a mile away. His lunge punch is -9 already. It can't be any more of a free punish. Stop whining because you get blown up by online Yuns doing the same stupid gimmicks over and over. QQ more pls

#41
MajinTenshinhan said on December 20, 2013 at 12:51 p.m.

Just thought I should direct you to this:

"While the headline about characters perhaps needing more nerfs is purely in jest, there's an argument to be made for a lot of character having their potential underestimated, or perhaps even entirely untapped. "

#42
Shinkutatsumaki said on December 20, 2013 at 12:54 p.m.

Yun Munay!

#43
xOtherWise said on December 20, 2013 at 12:59 p.m.

Thank LiangHuBBB to make the trailer of my next Littlegirl's best-of ^^ The best is yet to come... stay tuned guys ;)

#44
Neobrown said on December 20, 2013 at 1:02 p.m.

Doesn't sound like early 90's jungle music to me. Sounds hispanic

#45
Existent said on December 20, 2013 at 1:17 p.m.

It's not a "glitch". It's entirely intentional and it's not overpowered by any stretch.

#46
Remondo02 said on December 20, 2013 at 1:20 p.m.

Really bad video : all the set-ups are almost the same, for 3 minutes it's really long and boring.

#47
bagel_bytez said on December 20, 2013 at 1:21 p.m.

It's called sarcasm

#48
bagel_bytez said on December 20, 2013 at 1:30 p.m.

Best sf movie ever...
Ryu - Vince Vaughn
Ken - Owen Wilson
Bison - dolph lungren
Sagat - also dolph lungren
Fei - jet li
Ibuki - girl from kickass
Chun - Olivia Wilde
Viper - Emma stone
Rufus - Chris Farley
Zangief - Lou ferigno
Yun & yang - Mary Kate and ashley
Dan - Steven segal.

Make it! I don't care if some of those people died, just make it!

Ps. Anyone got any changes / additions?

Pps. I already did 2 related posts : p

#49
shoryuken78 said on December 20, 2013 at 1:37 p.m.

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#50
2101RYU said on December 20, 2013 at 1:37 p.m.

i swear eventhubs' staff all live in a bubble somewhere. things like this get missed all the time. how do you not know how racist the term "jungle music" is? delete this garbage already, please.

#51
shoryuken78 said on December 20, 2013 at 1:40 p.m.

(This user was banned.)

#52
Kijui said on December 20, 2013 at 1:45 p.m.

I play WhiteGun every once in a while, I am not impressed. Y'all keep glorigying characters who have target combos, just stop.

Stuff about Ibukis, Dudleys, Evil Ryus, and Yuns. These are character who WE KNOW can do these things. Ghis is getting annoyingly common.

I can say that,if it weren't for these characters, I might be able to "show off a little" myself with the show off master himself

#SaikyoWorldOrder

#53
Jason said on December 20, 2013 at 1:45 p.m.

That's not exactly true though. Even when they block the shoulder they're still right next to Yun, exactly where he wants them so you can do even more mixups after that, and by making the LP shoulder hit late into its active frames like that, it can +2 on block which means your opponent can't press buttons.

The real payout is better than 33%

#54
Anon said on December 20, 2013 at 1:56 p.m.

My thoughts exactly, thanks for saying it so I don't have to.

I don't think he needs any buffs, but Yun definitely doesn't need any nerfs. He should stay exactly as he is in AE2012. They got it right after AE.

#55
FightDirty said on December 20, 2013 at 1:58 p.m.

What? Was that wrong? Should I have just said horrible music?

I'm not rascist yet I know crap music when I hear it.

Anyway, Yun was a bit OP in the original AE but after the 2012 patch he seemed to be pretty well balanced to where he isn't brain dead. I figure in Ultra he'll be A- tier. Guess we'll see in June.

#56
massi4h said on December 20, 2013 at 2:02 p.m.

I don't get it. It's 3 minutes of the exact same 2 resets over and over which we've already seen in previous LianghuBB compilations.

Just because you like someone's videos doesn't mean you have to make a post every time they make a video, that's just silly.

#57
tidestick said on December 20, 2013 at 2:02 p.m.

I miss Ehubs with adblocker on! #BibleThump

#58
djm0001 said on December 20, 2013 at 2:05 p.m.

bruce leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee IS fei long

chris farley as rufus is great haha

Andre the Giant is Hugo if he ever made a cameo in a sf movie

#59
Razberryclownsac said on December 20, 2013 at 2:05 p.m.

Aziz Ansari as Dhalsim, Mike from Mike and Molly as Honda, and Jennifer Lawrence as Cammy?

#60
RedRapperSux said on December 20, 2013 at 2:05 p.m.

"4/ i'm sure you're a 500pp player"

That ruined your comment. PP does not dictate skill. Most of the toughest online battles came from people who weren't 4kPP+ but actually 1k and below, usually 0pp. That is probably because ranked is a joke and a lot of people realize that.

#61
Littlegirl1994 said on December 20, 2013 at 2:08 p.m.

1) Shoulder cross-down are not overpowered (cf => Kazunoko who don't use this move so much)

2) It is weak against good reversal like shoryuken, but if you do a backdash at that moment, the masher is literraly dead (with Ultra 1 punition or something like that)

3) Even if the opponent can block this move, it is very easy to connect crouch LP after that, to do more pressure etc (especially against some characters like Bison and others)

4) People who say it is too easy to block instant shoulder cross-down (OR alternative reset with palm/overhead + combo etc ) make me laugh .
Even some top players don't know how to block perfectly the variation palm/shoulder against Daigo/Kindevu (time at Arcade Edition) or Kazunoko as well.
=> Of course, you are much better than these players lol.

ps : This move isn't as slow and unsafe as oni's ex slash (totally useless)

"Really bad video : all the set-ups are almost the same, for 3 minutes it's really long and boring "
=> I understand you somehow. Check out my Best-Of with Sagat/Seth/Yun/Ken soon, you won't be disappointed (and with VARIOUS reset-combo) ;) .

^_^

#62
bunny said on December 20, 2013 at 2:17 p.m.

funny i always thought jungle music was another way of saying drum&bass dont be so quick to pull the race card - self edit - your right he was being racist no way to mix that crap up w drum&bass

#63
BunnyBoy said on December 20, 2013 at 2:17 p.m.

Has someone made a combo video with Galosengen?

Someone needs to make a combo video with Galosengen.

#64
Eye_of_Orochi said on December 20, 2013 at 2:21 p.m.

More and more I start to think that people just have really bad defensive skills. Try practicing some D, fancy combos and set ups will only get you so far. And no, jumping backwards doing HK and then sweeping or mashing reversal/Ultra when you land shouldn't be the extent of your defense.

#65
devilcuco said on December 20, 2013 at 2:34 p.m.

This doesn't work at decent level, lp shoulder is 267 ms startup, that's slow enough to react. If u are getting hit by this is because you are in autopilot mode. Or maybe simply don't know the yun matchup. Our you are terribad at this game, btw i don't get all this hate to yun. Yun is so overrated, and a fun character to play.

Buf him

#66
JimmyLoves said on December 20, 2013 at 2:38 p.m.

Wow, really bad title here. This Yun is not even good. Most of these combos and setups won't even work against any halfway decent player. Notice that most of the setups say counter hit on them? That's because the other player is constantly mashing buttons.

That genei jin combo was terrible, did absolutely no damage and didn't carry to the corner.

I hope they buff Yun rather than nerf him again.

#67
chipndip said on December 20, 2013 at 2:43 p.m.

LOL! Ikr? I saw it and I was like "I can knock two birds out with one stone. I can comment on the tit punch AND see if people are gonna let that semi-humble 'first' comment slide."

Answer: More people noticed it + They really hated that "first" comment. xD

#68
Gam3B0y said on December 20, 2013 at 2:52 p.m.

I approve this!! and F$%^K Delayed Wakeup :D
Rushdown FTW !!!
They Should have added Guard Brake!!!

#69
Littlegirl1994 said on December 20, 2013 at 2:55 p.m.

"F$%^K Delayed Wakeup :D
Rushdown FTW !!!
They Should have added Guard Brake!!! "

=> I totally agree with you <3 !

#70
KaiserSG said on December 20, 2013 at 2:58 p.m.

LOL @
4) People who say it is too easy to block instant shoulder cross-down (OR alternative reset with palm/overhead + combo etc ) make me laugh .
Even some top players don't know how to block perfectly the variation palm/shoulder against Daigo/Kindevu (time at Arcade Edition) or Kazunoko as well.
=> Of course, you are much better than these players lol.

Daigo/Kindevu??? Are you referring to AE when Yun & Yang just released and clearly no one have any match up knowledge about the twins? If so, then are you trying to say that these people doesn't know how to block these setups after 2yrs? You made me laugh too.

I am not a top yun like you, just a normal yun who discovered 7 out of 8(seth was by hsieh chang) yun unblockables and I do not have such a fancy reset vid against online top players like you.

#71
devilcuco said on December 20, 2013 at 3 p.m.

You don't know how to play yun, You are ending your combos with tc4 + fadc to do a gimmick, losing granted damage, 2 bars and a better knockdown with a better mixup situation. This only works on people that don't know how to play this game and have serious defense problems. Btw a combo video with the few case scenarios where this worked for you means nothing, i can do the same killing people with 5 throws in a row. Do this mean throw is op?

#72
coddog said on December 20, 2013 at 3:13 p.m.

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#73
KaiserSG said on December 20, 2013 at 3:18 p.m.

My apologize if you're referring to me. i posted my comment after sawing all the taunts in vid and the posts he/she made here.

#74
coddog said on December 20, 2013 at 3:24 p.m.

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#75
BlackGuile said on December 20, 2013 at 3:33 p.m.

DP mashing blows this all up. Yun is getting nerfed hard while Ryu is getting buffed. wtf.

#76
dukemagus said on December 20, 2013 at 3:58 p.m.

the character is fine, we need to nerf THE PLAYER!

#77
Specta said on December 20, 2013 at 5:18 p.m.

You are all being ridiculous in the critic as well as in the support.

#78
Vothsair said on December 20, 2013 at 5:28 p.m.

Change taht stupid title before capcom nerfs him harder.

#79
RandomSelectMaster said on December 20, 2013 at 5:33 p.m.

OMG, nerf talk always suck... even if I get beaten down to the ground with the said character. If someone is good enough to do it, then leave it be!!!

#80
Metsu_Hadoken said on December 20, 2013 at 5:45 p.m.

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#81
FakeVariable said on December 20, 2013 at 5:54 p.m.

Yun should not be getting nerfed at all. He is fine the way he is...the stuff in this video isn't even that bad...

#82
Rising_Jaguar said on December 20, 2013 at 6:09 p.m.

nerfs not required...its an awesome trick, but once it's seen
its pretty obvious~ the overhead is slow, and the shoulder
is obvs after the jab after the focus cancel~

#83
Metsu_Hadoken said on December 20, 2013 at 6:17 p.m.

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#84
sarif2soon said on December 20, 2013 at 7:28 p.m.

"Pros hate him! Average player exposes shocking anti-pro secret. Learn the $5 trick to his stunning results."

#85
bagel_bytez said on December 20, 2013 at 7:55 p.m.

Lol Bruce lee definitely for Fei.. But I only had live ppl in my head at the time. Can't Stop picturing Steven segal as dan lol. Mike Ross as dj, seth as himself painted blue, Steve buschimi as oni lol. Aziz dhalsim for president!!!

#86
Antstarr said on December 20, 2013 at 8:16 p.m.

As a charge character player...that shoulder crossup quite hard to block, need quick reactions and to lose charge as well.

#87
soggytoast said on December 20, 2013 at 8:53 p.m.

Yun is definitely one of the top characters in 2012. IDK what these people are smoking saying that he needs buffs. It was generally accepted that he was nearly game breaking OP in AE, yet the nerfs in 2012 were relatively minor. He lost some damage and palm gimmicks, but that's it.

No Yun should not be nerfed in Ultra, but I think he needs some tweaking. Like give him some of his AE damage back in exchange for some of his oppressive brainless pressure.

#88
anon1010 said on December 20, 2013 at 10:56 p.m.

Dudley has WAY more target combos than Yun

#89
Rye_Aka_SekaiSenshi said on December 21, 2013 at 12:10 a.m.

Man these guys in the comment section.....

#90
so13 said on December 21, 2013 at 4:12 a.m.

lol he's so much a top character that he never won a tournament since v.2012 (he has not even won evo 2011 when he was OP). I can easily find 10 characters better than Yun:
Cammy, Gouki, Seth, Sakura, Ibuki, Ryu, Viper, Fei Long, Adon, Sagat
;)

All the guys who say that Yun is still OP are those who have a problem in this match-up and don't want to learn it. SF4 is the game of crying babies anyway...

#91
coddog said on December 21, 2013 at 4:50 a.m.

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#92
Metsu_Hadoken said on December 21, 2013 at 6:02 a.m.

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#93
DontTaseMeBro said on December 21, 2013 at 9:32 a.m.

LOL!!!

#94
Savage_Alchemist said on December 21, 2013 at 6:34 p.m.

Do not nerf Yang tho, he's already crap.

#95
yunbelievable said on December 21, 2013 at 7:57 p.m.

You guys realize that you can Dp every one of these setups right
...

Yun isn't any better than any of the other high damage mixup/reset characters in the game. He does less damage than most of them too.

#96
bigjbilly said on December 21, 2013 at 9:10 p.m.

Jungle music is not racist you sensitive dummies.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldsch...

#97
AKumahMatata said on December 21, 2013 at 10:23 p.m.

that yun is stylish. nice

#98
yunbelievable said on December 22, 2013 at 2:05 a.m.

Not to mention that the people who say yun is too good due to these setups have never played him and don't understand how sparingly these setups have to be used to be effective. Also they don't lead to much damage as you see you have to start the combo from lights after the shoulder and it scales heavily.

#99
yunbelievable said on December 22, 2013 at 2:09 a.m.

The ignorance in your post is mind blowing. "Minor nerfs"? What the heck are YOU smoking? He lost a ton of damage, 10 active frames on palm, his dive kick is now very difficult to make plus on block, severely limiting the ranges where his dive kick is a true threat. Not to mention -10 damage on cr.mp and far.mp, less damage on each target combo, no more ex lunge into ultra, ex lunge now -1, less invincibility on hk upkicks making them a poor reversal, 1 less second on genei jin, no more throw immunity on ex command grab, harder to go through fireballs with shoulder.... the list goes on. ALL of these are major nerfs. He is now an upper mid tier character. Definitely not top 10 though.

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