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'Balrog is one of the most changed characters in USF4, he can now play like his Super Turbo iteration' - Combofiend talks Capcom Cup, USF4 and more

Posted by DreamKing23
December 12, 2013 at 4:54 p.m. PST

Hold Back to Block was among the many in attendance at NEC 14 last weekend, and while there, they scored an interview with Capcom's fighting game community specialist, Peter "Combofiend" Rosas. During their chat, Peter touches on multiple subjects, including how he initially got hired at Capcom, character changes in Ultra Street Fighter 4, the Capcom Cup, and more.

When on the subject of USF4 character changes, Combofiend brought up Balrog specifically. He stated that the charge boxer is one of the characters that has been changed the most from his current version.

While Balrog play is typically very defensive, the Capcom representative explained that 'Rog can still play defense, but with the USF4 changes he can now tap into his Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo playstyle, which was much more offensive.

Hit the jump for more from Combofiend.


Gurpwnder said on December 12, 2013 at 4:59 p.m.

I just want Dan's Cl.HK to Cl.MP to no longer be character specific AND stance specific. Please either extend the activation range of Cl.MP or reduce the Cl.HK pushback even more on hit.

trims90 said on December 12, 2013 at 5:02 p.m.

'Rog can still play defense, but with the USF4 changes he can now tap into his Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo playstyle, which was much more offensive. good news

Mojo said on December 12, 2013 at 5:04 p.m.

Wait what? I don't care what they do with this game anymore but in some peoples minds him saying that is going to justify complaining about Balrog being dumb in Ultra.

TheLowestOfTiers said on December 12, 2013 at 5:05 p.m.

"And the rich get richer."
Where's my Dan buffs?
Or was "Every character is going to be a threat" a lie? lol

OomackattackoO said on December 12, 2013 at 5:09 p.m.


SonicfanQ said on December 12, 2013 at 5:10 p.m.

Great... its good to see an already GOOD character become even better while gouken is still pretty much the same with mild buffs. Also balrog is going to be an even worse matchup for gouken. Sigh.....

Sage_Liebert said on December 12, 2013 at 5:16 p.m.

Go spam your gouken tears to Combofiend twitter or capcom unity account.

tidestick said on December 12, 2013 at 5:19 p.m.

Rog gonna be making more fight money now! Love it

djm0001 said on December 12, 2013 at 5:21 p.m.

"...we're taking suggestions that make sense in the grand scheme of balance, in the grand scheme of giving their character options..options that the top tier characters have, so that essentially other characters become top tier..."

DeeJay needs soooo much love haha combofiend better keep his word

Also EventHubs, the banners/cover pics? for the articles have been awesome lately, Balrog's lookin good

Cascadian1106 said on December 12, 2013 at 5:21 p.m.

My main Chun Li will still treat this new Rog like his buffs mean nothing. Please let me know when he can actually cause us any great deal of trouble. No jump-ins, no cross-ups, EX moves are all throwable on reaction, no random safe specials when Chun has super meter and now, no more OH into U1. What were the buffs again?

djm0001 said on December 12, 2013 at 5:23 p.m.

wait wait wait, gouken is still pretty much the same with mild buffs? do you have an early release of the game? I thought it wasn't out for like 7 more months? dude where'd you get your copy...

shoryuken78 said on December 12, 2013 at 5:23 p.m.

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calypsx said on December 12, 2013 at 5:23 p.m.

Wasn't he already really good? Why the buffs?

shoryuken78 said on December 12, 2013 at 5:25 p.m.

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SonicfanQ said on December 12, 2013 at 5:25 p.m.

I would if it would actually do some good lol. I can only hope people put in good suggestions at the location tests since I could not make it out. I put in my suggestion when they were taking them on capcom united all those months back so i have done what i could do.

Gurpwnder said on December 12, 2013 at 5:29 p.m.

He still gets HP and EX Overhead to Ultra like he used to. He just has more flexibility now with LP and MP.

SonicfanQ said on December 12, 2013 at 5:34 p.m.

Its called location tests bro and reports from MULTIPLE people who played gouken at the location test says besides ex tastu buff which im (thankful for but its not enough) hes pretty much the same. Far standing lk being cancel now should have been like that anyway.

They still have not made fixes to him that need to be done like lk tastu droping people or people activating kongo and getting away from it. How speeding up his charge time for a two hit projectile that would help im greatly without breaking the game. If they are going to leave in the ability to activate kongo and get away from it then at least make it 2 zones like it was before.

eitherway its nice balrog is getting good treatment. All his tools will work perfectly and he will prob be top 5 or something.

Darc_Requiem said on December 12, 2013 at 5:34 p.m.

Gouken got one really good buff. EX Tatsu hitting crouchers. One senseless nerf. Demon Flip through now does 40 less stun. The other changes that don't amount to much. For example, Crouching MP only combos into Hadoken at near point blank range. Gouken has better options at that distance. Given the buffs given to other characters, Gouken is going to be worse by default unless he receives further tweaks.

EXCh33ky said on December 12, 2013 at 5:39 p.m.

Oh I hope that whatever changes he's gotten so far don't get altered later. Would love more offensive capabilities with balrog...please don't take way his buffs :(

SonicfanQ said on December 12, 2013 at 5:49 p.m.

My point exactly! Dudley, chun li balrog, oni, evil ryu, elfurte, ken, VEGA! VEGA MOTHER FREAKING VEGA!! Dalsim hando makoto and more are all getting GOOD buffs they will actually make them stronger. Vega man im happy for vega players. I don't wana be mad at other characters for getting buffs but Gouken my Main man The so called MASTER of ryu and ken will be left in the shadows once again.

soggytoast said on December 12, 2013 at 5:58 p.m.

Balrog is quite strong in 2012 despite the holes in his game. I hope they don't get carried away and turn this character into a god.

tidestick said on December 12, 2013 at 6:05 p.m.

Take your gouken tears elsewhere!

Valiantheart said on December 12, 2013 at 6:06 p.m.

Yep Balrog got less recovery on all his punches, a better TAP, and a few improvements to his normals. Meanwhile, Bison who was already inferior to Balrog got -1 to Seems fair.

HooliganComboFTW said on December 12, 2013 at 6:06 p.m.

Someone needs to keep Dan ,T hawk, Guy, Blanka, Cody, and Bison company.

RebornOdin said on December 12, 2013 at 6:10 p.m.

Hell, they can remove every small buff they gave Sagat (Being a many-many-years-long Sagat main myself). As long as they keep the s.LK special/super cancelable on the second hit, I'm completely happy, I don't need anything else.

MKKhanzo said on December 12, 2013 at 6:10 p.m.

ST? I dont think so. If so, where is my ST Vega? =D

Wedge said on December 12, 2013 at 6:15 p.m.

Blegh. Not fun. They should increase his hurtboxes on his dash punches to make them easier to counter or something then.

Hadrian said on December 12, 2013 at 6:20 p.m.

I rly miss combofiend at tournyes, but he is doing a GREAT job at capcom! all kudos to him! and i cant wait for capcom cup and more updates on USF4!

SonicfanQ said on December 12, 2013 at 6:20 p.m.

This is what I feel they should have done to bison instead of making his lk sissor kick -1

jme said on December 12, 2013 at 6:28 p.m.

So balrog is more different than Ken and Seth?

hotpinkfighter said on December 12, 2013 at 6:28 p.m.

How about sf1 versions of ryu and ken? One shoryuken half your life gone. :)

djm0001 said on December 12, 2013 at 6:34 p.m.

You're 100% missing my point dude, and thank you for pointing out location tests and helping my case. the game is still very far away, NONE of these characters are final, there's a very good chance that at these location tests people said "hey gouken doesn't seem much better, he needs some more work"

so please please please stop reading these changelists and assuming this is a final cut of the game

djm0001 said on December 12, 2013 at 6:37 p.m.

and even further more, let me stress that 3 NEW MECHANICS ARE BEING ADDED TO THE GAME, do you really really really think anybody can tell which characters are flawed or not just yet? these characters are being placed into a new environment, with so many new tools, setups, gimmicks, strengths, strategies, etc...

LegendaryAura said on December 12, 2013 at 7:12 p.m.

For the love of god Combofiend, give an abel a consistent anti air. If delayed wake up stays obviously the mix-up will not be as strong, at least give him an anti air(st medium kick!) so he won't be pressured as easily as he is now.

Wardog said on December 12, 2013 at 7:18 p.m.

If Balrog got his turbo feel back, then give Guy his alpha feel back. :)

Aluppoj said on December 12, 2013 at 7:26 p.m.

I'm curious, when someone says "that Buff didn't make my character good enough", what does that mean?

"Good enough" to do what?

Because I personally know Gouken players with over 20,000 Bp. So they're winning somehow.

Good enough to win majors? Good enough for what? Even Balrog has only won once (if memory serves).

Any character can be as good as the player makes that character. Ask Ixion, Infiltration (Hakan/Gouken), Haitani.

And if life is that miserable with that character, maybe consider switching?

I've really enjoyed maining Chun Li. But if people are going to start moaning about her like 3s and SFxT I may consider switching.

Complaining sucks the fun out of everything.

SonicfanQ said on December 12, 2013 at 7:34 p.m.

Im going off past experiences say AE 2012. When gouken got his changes they were pretty much set in stone. Now im not sure how things will work this time but going based off how they did things in AE 2012 they wont be changing much and the current change log might as well be final and I HOPE IM WRONG. Thats why im so worried.

SonicfanQ said on December 12, 2013 at 7:45 p.m.

Based off gouken and if they don't do any changes to red focus as it stands right now its pretty balanced and hard to use. Watching people play ULTRA on stream its hard to find an oppertunity to use red focus. Its VERY risky and it takes 2 meters. It wont change the game THAT much IMO but it does add an extra option but won't do much for gouken. Double ultra I personally feel should not have even been put in the game its stupid. It will benefit other characters like rose and be useless to others and gouken will be one of those characters its useless for. Delayed wake up Delayed wakeup is the ONLY Mechanic that has the Potential to effect gouken GREATLY seeing ass his wake up is currently ass. Even with tastu buff he still needs 3 meters to be safe lol. Blocking ex tastu give the opponent a FULL (Lets go on bathroom break and come back and punish gouken) PUNISH so ex tastu hit SHOULD BE Huge. Delayed wakeup will shake up okizime and make you think more about it making it easier for gouken to get up off the ground which does buff him. Still he needs more changes rather fixes IMO

Gurpwnder said on December 12, 2013 at 7:46 p.m.

You can't let others choose your main for you, man. Play who you like.

etrotman said on December 12, 2013 at 7:46 p.m.

Wonder why they wanted to see Rog so beefy? Maybe they want an american to finally win EVO.

djm0001 said on December 12, 2013 at 7:47 p.m.

It definitely seems like this time around they're making a greater effort to get feedback from players and really take their time to tweak the game. So far with the buffs/nerfs I've seen I think most characters are heading in the right direction, and I'm excited to see more announcements.

Hopefully this weekend they drop some more information at the cup

markp said on December 12, 2013 at 7:47 p.m.


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Post_a_comment said on December 12, 2013 at 7:52 p.m.

and Guile still need to play defensively. damn.

HADdaHUSTLA said on December 12, 2013 at 7:53 p.m.

So combofiend, you mean to tell me the community asked for them Gen nurfs and those Bison nurfs? Every iteration of SF4 I've changed characters either because of nurfs or boredom. Then every single one of them get's nurfed in the next iteration. for example: in SF4 my main was Bison followed by guile and honda. Bison go mini nurfs, and it wasn't that bad, but Honda got that headbutt nurf, and guile got better. then, when the arcade edition came, Bison got nurfed AGAIN, Guile got nurfed, and E. Honda got micro-buffed. what's up with that? I think Capcom should make every character the best of their abilities and call it a day. If they took every character and kept their strong versions and buffed the characters that was plain A$$, then everybody would be happy.

They are NOT listening to the whole community because NOBODY asked for delayed wake-up or Red focus. These game mechanics nurf some characters in it's own. they didn't have to nurf Cammy's cannon strike because they already nurfed it with delayed wake-up. I REALLY hope the review all these b/s nurfs, like Zangiefs, and rethink them because there is really no need for them. Why make an A$$ character more A$$ because people not good enough to deal with some of the strategies. Unless it's an upcoming army of Snakeyes clones on the rise, i didn't see the need to nurf Zangief.

This is only my opinion and I'm Ranting because this is straight ridiculous. Balrog needed buffs? NO, How on earth did they need to buff the (arguably) the best charge character in the game, but leave other ones like Bison, DeeJay, Honda, and Blanka A$$?

I'm Confused

SonicfanQ said on December 12, 2013 at 8 p.m.

You know I hear people say this all the time

"Any character can be as good as the player makes that character. Ask Ixion, Infiltration (Hakan/Gouken), Haitani."

This is only half right and im sick of hearing people say this. Its very simple to understand. Yes you the player controlling the character needs to be skilled in order to bring out that characters potential but that does NOT mean any character can be viable in a high level tourny. You have to remember that you are limited by what your character can do you can only do what that character has been designed to do.

Some characters have good designs (Ryu, Ken, sagat,akuma, fie long) and some characters have bad designs( el furte, gouken, t hawk, hakan, that don't work well or you can't really be consistant with. Still if a skilled player gets behind these characters and plays them to te fullest potential they will look good. Now lets see Ixion beat daigo using dan in a first to 10. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN! You never see Ixion winning majors hmm I wonder whats holding him back. Hes a great players backed behind a Mediocre character.

SonicfanQ said on December 12, 2013 at 8:09 p.m.

Also I hate when people bring up infiltration like he plays gouken or hakan through a whole tourny. Hes not an idiot hes smart he only uses those characters in certain match ups.

Also why mention Haitani!?!?!? Makoto is GOOD lolol. Just no one was really playing her shes a beast. She is always ranked high in tier lists but shes hard to play. Haitani is an amazing player who bring out makoto's monterous power lol

Cascadian1106 said on December 12, 2013 at 8:14 p.m.

You can see the HP version coming from a mile away and that's why good Chun players choose U1 to react to that s**t every time. As for the EX version, even noobs know all of his EX moves are throwable. Safe specials? Unless, they all have 0 recovery frames like Fei's EX Rekkas, then they're still gonna get SUPER-punished.

SonicfanQ said on December 12, 2013 at 8:17 p.m.

Also did you really bring up online BP with gouken to measure viability. Tell those 20,000bp gouken players to go to some tournys/ majors and make some good results or bring me some already good tourny results with gouken players ranking/ placing high consistantly. then we can talk. Velocirapter is the ONLY gouken I know of who plays and ranks someone consistantly with gouken offline. Valle or online tony seem to take him out all the time lol

dirtyvillain said on December 12, 2013 at 8:19 p.m.

Its funny how all the usa players characters got mostly all the buffs and all the asian top players characters got nerfed. Ryu seriously no buffs? Fei, adon, cammy are all dead now.

TheLowestOfTiers said on December 12, 2013 at 8:19 p.m.


If Dan and Ryu were both on the same level in terms of 'selectable characters in a damn fighting game', then yes, you can say things like "Hmm I wonder what's holding Ixion back from winning" but that very example you just gave is exactly what I'm, and I'm sure what many other character loyalists, are talking about. If Capcom can actually bring ALL the characters on the same playing field when Ultra comes out, now that would be a feat.

deteknician said on December 12, 2013 at 8:26 p.m.

Good job. Take the best charge character in 2012 and buff him the most. SMH @ the logic

Ninjanuity said on December 12, 2013 at 8:33 p.m.

Makoto's been an amazing character since AE, so I don't understand what Haitani has to do with it.

If people complain about Chun-Li, oh well. Play who you want, it's all that matters.

mrkareemruiz said on December 12, 2013 at 8:36 p.m.

Great news, BOXER was not great in AE. PR Rog just got owned at NEC BY KELLY AND J WONG

Aluppoj said on December 12, 2013 at 8:53 p.m.


I wasn't attacking you or anything. I just think Gouken is pretty good.

I happen to disagree with you on Ixion. If he could play at 'Daigo Level' or have 'Daigo Success' simply by switching from Dan to Ryu, he'd have done it.

1,000,000x over he'd have switched already.

And lets not put our noses in the air about 20k Bp or online play. You all like Smug now don't you? The world wasn't on fire with Dudley play until this online hero showed up.

Sethlolol is a local player in these parts. Online guy who happens to be doing just fine at tournaments.

I know your point was in reference to Gouken players attending tournaments. My point is it'll just take one guy. Not sure why infiltration isn't a viable example?

He's had tournament success with that character.

Again, is the point of the buffs you're asking for that YOU'll attend and win tournaments once these buffs are in place? That's a serious question, not sarcasm.

Because unless YOU are attending tournaments, online wins should be well within your grasp already. Because other folks are doing just fine.

Aluppoj said on December 12, 2013 at 8:54 p.m.

She's good, but takes a bunch of work. And has very few players Repping her to her potential.

Aluppoj said on December 12, 2013 at 9:06 p.m.

Yeah, I know. I play a bunch of characters anyway. But I've enjoyed Chun being a bit of an underdog in the 4 series.

It made up for all of the hate mail spam I received when I used to main Ryu.

But Chun Li is really fun. I'll probably always use her. Balrog is my 3rd and Ken is my 4th. Things look great for them so far:)

I like using Bison as well.

Darc_Requiem said on December 12, 2013 at 9:29 p.m.

Infilration uses multiple characters and only uses certain characters, Gouken and Hakan, when the match is either in his favor or he knows he opponent doesn't know the match up. Gouken is mid-tier. People see the big damage combos he can pull of and over estimate how good he is. Gouken has terrible wake up, can't do any real damage of his light attacks, and two of his specials still don't work as intended.

Kongoshin needs to return to two zones. Every since they went to three zones, there have been issues with high and mid counter not working as they should. Not to mention the fact that throws, armor breakers and counter hits beat Kongoshin clean. Tatsu has some of the worst recovery in the game and still drops opponents on occasion when you land it clean, This gives your opponent an easy chance at a max damage punish after you land a Tatsu. Even when you land Tatsu clean you get a soft knock down.

I don't want the standard (Non-EX) Tatsu to be Shoryu in disguise but make the reward worth the risk. As it stands it has no invincibility, slow start up, terrible recovery and it whiffs on crouchers. I'm fine the lack of invincibility, slow start up, and whiffing on crouchers. but given those parameters. Shouldn't the recovery be better and shouldn't it lock opponents if you land the initial hit clean.

Aluppoj said on December 12, 2013 at 9:42 p.m.

That's all good man.

Isn't Ryu also a mid tier character? How about Gen? Or ONI?

Isn't YOUR character not being Top Tier ok?

NEC14's top 16 & 32 were ridiculously diverse. Over 20 different characters represented.

All it will take is one skilled player to change everyone's opinion. And Infiltration has beaten Top players in tournament play with Gouken.

That's enough to prove my point. The counter pick argument is void IMO. If you're skilled enough to play Sub characters at a higher level than other ppls mains, it's a plus.

Counter picking is fine.

Not saying Gouken is GDLK. But he's certainly viable/competent to succeed at high levels if the right player is using him.

SonicfanQ said on December 12, 2013 at 9:45 p.m.

amen my brother

Aluppoj said on December 12, 2013 at 9:47 p.m.

Louffy seems to be doing pretty well with Rose as well. Should have mentioned him.

And I guess Vryu would've been a better example than Hatani. He was killing with Makoto when she was considered trash.

sarif2soon said on December 12, 2013 at 10:53 p.m.

Good for Balrog.
Now what About Seth?

omegamarth said on December 12, 2013 at 11:23 p.m.

Yeah, how hard are they nerfing Seth? The more the better, lol.

Anyways, Rog was a mid carder in 2012. Anyone saying the rich are getting richer should take a look at the names that are near his: Gouken, Abel, Yang, Guy, Cody. These buffs my seem pretty nuts at first, but remember that Boxer is weak against focus attacks, and one of the new mechanics is an enhanced focus attack.

Nevertheless, Balrog has a shot at being one of the stronger characters in this version, but with Focus Attack and Red Focus in this game, don't expect him to be dominant like in ST and HDR.

Also, every SF where Rog is bad tends to be not that good as a competitive game, other than Championship Edition. Looking at you SFxT, CvS2, and Alpha 3. Balrog is a fundamentals character, and a game where he is strong tends to favor fundamentals over gimmicks. If Balrog is indeed strong, like he looks, that is a good sign for the health of the game as a whole. Same thing with Ryu and Sagat, because when zoning is strong, shenanigans don't tend to be as strong.

I'd say the opposite is true with Akuma. Thus why AE2012 is almost as bad as AE.

Keetro said on December 12, 2013 at 11:35 p.m.

too good to be true

mvegetam said on December 12, 2013 at 11:36 p.m.

@59 After Darc_Requiem's post I thought you would admit how bad gouken is.. but instead you compare him to ryu and gen and oni!!!.. no s**t

From your post's you either play with a gouken player that's giving you a hard time or you just don't know how weak he is.. plus gouken players have to speak now ot their beloved character again wouldn't improve in this version.. cuz until now.. that is the case with his change list

Aluppoj said on December 13, 2013 at 12:29 a.m.


I actually find that I beat Gouken most times that I play him. At least when I use Chun Li.

I am friends with Vipergoomba. He's #1 on PSN and GrandMaster. So I get some pretty good experience playing against the character.

Sorry. I disagree. Granted I'm not a Gouken player, but I don't think he's bad. I don't think Seth is bad either. Even with his nerfs.

And I'm honestly surprised that my own character received every single buff requested for her, and some no one asked for lol.

I see skilled players winning with these characters. That's all I'm saying.

Real talk, you don't think Ryu and Gen are mid tier? C'mon man.

Remove Daigo and Xian and you've got two characters that've won nothing. Just like Gouken right?

Sage_Liebert said on December 13, 2013 at 12:35 a.m.

Don't forget ProudStrawberry. He's a Gouken online warrior that dominates as well.

Aluppoj said on December 13, 2013 at 12:49 a.m.

Yeah man, he's amazing!

Instead of buffs, just go study his Gouken Playstyle lol. J/K of course:P

mvegetam said on December 13, 2013 at 1:11 a.m.

Pleeease don't say ryu or gen is mid tier.. I swear I feel like I want to hang my self when someone mentions a very good charceter and say they are weker than what they are.. did it seem like they are leaving ryu as he is in usf4 for no reason.. about gen .. even the evo champ said he is high mid tier.. and... Gouken IS Bad!!!

when you got a character with bad wakeup and no combos from light attacks.. it's simply not possible for him to be good .. even zangief have something from lights.. not to mention not having a 2 hit fireball

He is not my main but I played him for a long tim as a secondary character to know how bad he is

TwoCoins said on December 13, 2013 at 1:51 a.m.

I want alpha versions of Rolento and be more offensive and be able to cancle his mekong and wall bounce with any of his other normals and pogo stick.

DORMWORM said on December 13, 2013 at 2:31 a.m.

I love all the Gouken talk ....wish Capcom would talk about him instead of saying NEXT!!!!!!!!!

the master gets no love smh...they should send this guy for a blood or piss test hes a imposter ..this cant be the man that taught ryu and ken how to fight
maybe they should give him a drunken style with that tatsu being so out of control and landing only super dps
why didnt capcom make him a grappler shoto at his size give this man a suplex or something help him out...
ill go get destroyed with him online now see yall later

Lashimar said on December 13, 2013 at 2:42 a.m.

# Hado's Fanboys. Our begs are so very boring. Your are mental weaker.
# Balrog's Fanboys. Your are more funnier and mental stronger.

Kelshou said on December 13, 2013 at 2:59 a.m.

If that's true...that's terrible. ST Balrog is one of the most hated characters in ST...probably the strongest character in the game and absolutely braindead...ugh.

I_Are_RaBBiT said on December 13, 2013 at 3:02 a.m.

Hasn't Sagat been doing anti air normal into Ultra since Vanilla? Chun-li's been weak for so long I think its about time she got some love. Dudley's gonna be a monster already, he doesn't need anti air normals into Ultra with all his juggles into Ultra that he has. Come on man, you can light DP a standing opponent into U2 with Dudley. Guy gets Ultra2 off almost anything. Not sure about Cody but Dudley is gonna be ridankulous in Ultra. Let them give Chun-li that. She's gonna be a serious contender in Ultra with her buffs. She deserves it.

Verify said on December 13, 2013 at 3:38 a.m.

Rog didnt need these buffs his overhead was already fadcable so you could make it safe. Dash straight being -1 is too good. Some characters dont have 3f normals to stop a non stop pressure and those that do must be frame perfect to stop him from pressing a button. Bison is already in the game we dont another 1. They gotta make it at least -2 if they want it safe.

DenoK said on December 13, 2013 at 3:49 a.m.

I don't get it! Balrog was already a very good character and they buff him like crazy?! What is Combofiend doing?!

Cyclops said on December 13, 2013 at 5:03 a.m.

Gouken has like 5 good matchups and infiltration really only uses him in the Guile matchup, which is one of the few matchups he actually wins.

SgtKonus said on December 13, 2013 at 6:35 a.m.

Gouken is cheap, EX Counter beats everything! #KAPPA

But seriously, Combofiend can we talk about Ibuki? You know stuff is getting bad when even Sako wants to drop her after playing USF4.

ProfessorLester said on December 13, 2013 at 6:59 a.m.


JIHADJOE said on December 13, 2013 at 7:33 a.m.

Sako drops characters because he's bored with them, not because they're weak.

He dropped Cammy at the height of her strength because other people were starting to do "Sako Combos." He went on to Ibuki and invented Sako Combos for her. Now people are getting good with Ibuki so it's time for him to move on to someone else. The guy's just like that.

(I guess this makes him a hipster! Mained Cammy before she was cool, dropped her because she became too mainstream.)

darkcloudzzz said on December 13, 2013 at 7:53 a.m.

why is rich not getting afffected, middle income becoming buffed so much, and low tiers just not getting helped at all..this sounds like reality

SgtKonus said on December 13, 2013 at 8:07 a.m.

Historically, he has done that I admit, but Sako has come out and said that Ibuki isn't the same character he's fallen in love with and that she's been nerfed. Heck, even F-Word, the best Ibuki in Europe says current USF4 Ibuki is bad.

She's received some minor/useless buffs( Her useless Tsuijoe/Flip move is faster but still useless, her EX DP has more invincibility but it's hitbox is weird, it's hard to auto-correct plus it's priority isn't really there.) but also some serious changes to her gameplay. I would like Combofiend to please go a little more in-depth with her changes, because Delayed Wake up plus Soft Knockdown on Neckbreaker makes the move worthless and if they're trying to make her more defensive, she doesn't have the tools to be a defensive character.

djm0001 said on December 13, 2013 at 8:18 a.m.

man so many people acting like all the characters are done being balanced, i bet over 70% of the people complaining don't play their character's the way they're intended to be played.

just give everybody 3 frame normals w/ no recovery, +99 on block

based on people's reactions, its like Capcom is some evil maniac intentionally ruining characters for their sadistic pleasure

deteknician said on December 13, 2013 at 9:36 a.m.

ST Balrog is stupid and so will be Ultra Balrog.

Pmagic said on December 13, 2013 at 10:57 a.m.


mrkareemruiz said on December 13, 2013 at 11:21 a.m.

I agree, BOXER being good mean nothing because hes will not be cheap like AKUMA

JIHADJOE said on December 13, 2013 at 11:44 a.m.

Ahh but ST Balrog had to be the way he was in order to fight O.Sagat.

In other news: O.Sagat confirmed for USF4!

DORMWORM said on December 13, 2013 at 12:35 p.m.

let me find out combofiends friends characters are all getting hooked up

tidestick said on December 13, 2013 at 12:39 p.m.

ehubs used to be alright. now every post theres nothing but fooking crybaby bithces!

AKumahMatata said on December 13, 2013 at 3:31 p.m.

Characters should be balanced but in reality, not all are the same. i feel good of the Ultra changes. and i thought AE was pretty balanced.

bahamutknightzero said on December 13, 2013 at 3:57 p.m.

That's pretty much the FGC in a nutshell

Wardog said on December 13, 2013 at 5:24 p.m.

We can only hope.

solano said on December 14, 2013 at 4:41 a.m.

Combofiend is such a nice guy, I was pleased to met him when he came to Brazil for the Treta Tourny (That was just before he was announced as the new community manager) and I could aprouch him, take some pictures and discuss about some things like character loyalty, the scene and other stuff, and the guy was like an old friend, just because we shared the same passion. That's FGC power, folks!

sarif2soon said on December 14, 2013 at 6:37 a.m.


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