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Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 tier lists from Justin Wong, Noel Brown and Filipino Champ

Posted by Steven 'Dreamking23' Chavez • May 22, 2012 at 12:33 a.m. PDT
Updated again: Three top Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 players have shared their personal tier lists for the game. EG|Justin Wong, UVG|Noel Brown and coL.cc|Filipino Champ all recently weighed on how they felt the various fighters in the game stacked up.

Justin (left image) put Phoenix atop of his list and stated that his order goes from left to right in terms of overall strength. Noel (middle image) and Filipino Champ's (right image) lists can also be viewed below as well.

Everyone pretty much agreed that Zero and Vergil are extremely strong characters, while C. Viper and Spencer picked up very respectable ratings by all three competitors. On the other end, Phoenix Wright and Hsien-Ko were placed in the bottom level on everyone's list.


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How do you feel about these tier lists? Leave your comments below.

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Comments

Gam3B0y said on May 20, 2012 at 4:54 p.m.

Zero/Doom/Wesker is my team and I agree with them being up there :P

#1
mrdrofficer said on May 20, 2012 at 4:55 p.m.

Right - ish. If this is the game today, I'll say ... Ok. (Really, on lightweight Viper thought?)

But if this is a full tier prediction then,"Hell no."

Spider-man and Jill are up-comers for sure, while She-Hulk and Tron Bonne are not as bad as people say.

#2
Just_drink_oe said on May 20, 2012 at 4:58 p.m.

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#3
LeeCyaoran said on May 20, 2012 at 5:04 p.m.

I think this is really ok right now... I mean, characters like Wesker, Spencer, Doom, Magneto and others are GOOD, extremely good, but overused D: so people is used to know what to do against them.

In other Han - Viper, Zero and Vergil are better, but you need to be really good with them, and also people don't fight with characters like them all the time... At least not THAT good like they should be.

#4
NoizyChild said on May 20, 2012 at 5:08 p.m.

LOL@ low tier Deadpool.

#5
reyray0709 said on May 20, 2012 at 5:08 p.m.

if it wasn't for the japanese tournament a couple of weeks ago, vergil would not be up there.

he's the flavor of the month.

#6
HyperViperNZ said on May 20, 2012 at 5:12 p.m.

wesker and zero need to swap places and then it sounds about right. just my opinion.

#7
obscura9 said on May 20, 2012 at 5:14 p.m.

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#8
Ninjanuity said on May 20, 2012 at 5:22 p.m.

Wesker gets way too much credit. He has his weaknesses, people. Zero craps all over Wesker, as well as the majority of the cast. So does Dr. Doom if he can effectively play keep away by flying around.

It seems Vergil is getting a little more recognition now. And we all knew Viper was top, just never used.

#9
THE_GODDAMN_MASTER said on May 20, 2012 at 5:32 p.m.

Chun-Li is in the same tier as Spider-Man?
Riiiiiight.

#10
Smorgasboard said on May 20, 2012 at 5:32 p.m.

Wesker and Spencer needs assist to be touch the top 3 on the list.

The top 3 are the best without assist and can kill just about any character solo. Their low life is not a problem if you can't hit them.

#11
kirbykirbykirby said on May 20, 2012 at 5:40 p.m.

his opinion yes but i personally don't think tron is that low. next to the original mvc3 yes shes been hit hard since she doesn't really have much aside from a launcher and air combo but she still hits hard

#12
BumblebeeCody said on May 20, 2012 at 5:53 p.m.

I'd put Hawkeye, Nova, Tron, Thor 1 higher
C.Viper down 1
I think Ghost Rider is unexplored. Has a lot of potential needing to be unlocked.

#13
DandyCheeks said on May 20, 2012 at 5:59 p.m.

@6... that's not true. Norcal has a good amount of Vergils and they have possible the best Vergil there is.

#14
Celticlord said on May 20, 2012 at 6:07 p.m.

Shoutouts to fanatiq

#15
MadnessFamilyguile said on May 20, 2012 at 6:43 p.m.

Wesker shouldn't even be that high....LOL@trish in the same tier as haggar.

Ammy gets roasted everytime i see her in a match. Extreme execution skills are needed(even most pros can't succeed) and even then seems to do only mediocre damage.

Hulk is pretty freakin high. It's not perfect(especially hate wesker hype) but it's better than most

#16
Super_Shuckle said on May 20, 2012 at 6:43 p.m.

I'm really surprised at Ghost Rider's placement. I always thought of him as a B or B+, never bottom tier.

#17
Darkcloud said on May 20, 2012 at 6:58 p.m.

Y'know, for Strider being high tier I never see anyone pick him.

#18
Sakura said on May 20, 2012 at 7:02 p.m.

What's so great about Morrigan?

#19
massi4h said on May 20, 2012 at 7:10 p.m.

I mostly agree. I think Phoenix, Morrigan, Dog and Spiderman should be a bit higher and maybe Dante should be slightly lower. Phoenix is an amazing anchor even without 5 bars. She has all the tools (invincible super available in the air, tracking teleport, fly, slide, decent trijump with a good crossup, etc), except low health, though anchors should die in one touch anyway. Plus her XF loop can give her 2 bars easy.
Morrigan has the best "fill the screen with crap" but she's so versatile that she can even rush down pretty well and safe and can do quite nice damage.
Ammy is very hard to get in on, just with her counters. Use her other stances properly and she's a beast. Plus her hitbox sucks for hitting and comboing, she just doesn't do as much damage as you'd hope.
Spiderman has amazing keepaway as well as good rushdown which is really hard to get him off. I haven't looked at the frame data on his zip, but it seems to be really good for making all his specials safe and just constantly pressuring you. I'd say he does a better job of that than Felicia.

/essay...

#20
lukecage83 said on May 20, 2012 at 7:23 p.m.

@18: he is not top. Sneeze on him and hes dead

#21
Darkcloud said on May 20, 2012 at 7:28 p.m.

@21: I know. I'm just going off most of the tier lists I see saying he's high tier.

Although LVL 3 X-Factor Ouroboros is insane.

#22
samuraikatana1 said on May 20, 2012 at 7:33 p.m.

Spot on except for one thing, Wesker needs to be in the top row. I know people say that "oversaturation" hurts him but that's not what a tier is about, it's about the characters raw abilities. Wesker and Vergil both need to be in their own tier as far as I'm concerned.

#23
lordrockman said on May 20, 2012 at 7:38 p.m.

Coool my team is A tier :D :D Cap/Ryu/Hawkeye

#24
BaroqueObama said on May 20, 2012 at 7:45 p.m.

I agree with this list almost completely. Glad to see Champ understands that there's no D-tier in this game :P

#25
Sushiroks said on May 20, 2012 at 7:49 p.m.

I have a deep personal hatred of Morrigan, but I'm a scrub so I just can't deal with endless fireballs. Lower tier is where the personal opinions really matter, but other than that good list. Nothing scarier than Zero with assists.
I think if people disagree they should play a match against Champ. If you win, you can tell him your tier list:D

#26
mfinnegan73 said on May 20, 2012 at 8:14 p.m.

Viper is completely top tier Modok and Jill are S tier and down right unblockable, and spiderman is better but he is hard to use so I understand him being low don't agree but I understand all and all it is pretty accurate.

#27
spambot said on May 20, 2012 at 8:28 p.m.

*proceeds to find zero, viper, vergil synergy

#28
HyperViperNZ said on May 20, 2012 at 8:38 p.m.

Viper is definitely within the top3. She's a threat with or without assists. Not sure about Zero being that high though. The only way he's a threat IS with assists.

#29
OnegaiShimasu said on May 20, 2012 at 9:15 p.m.

If this is true, then I feel like a goddamn bad ass. XD

Frank West, Ghost Rider, Nemesis all day!

#30
Anim8td_fan said on May 20, 2012 at 9:18 p.m.

I agree with most of it but I've move some characters around.

#31
TheSureFireGamer said on May 20, 2012 at 9:25 p.m.

Viper & Logan I don't agree with being Top Tier. MAYBE Magneto, but he's not the threat he was in Vanilla. I say replace either Viper or Wolverine with Taskmaster, because people are still sleeping on him.

#32
Rahavic said on May 20, 2012 at 10:18 p.m.

I dont think people understand how hard Nova hits and his unbelievable hit confirms (this isnt from a Nova player fyi), the guy can hit confirm off of the most absurd things I've ever seen in a fighting game.

Switch Nova and Strider's spots and I'm good with this list.

#33
Rahavic said on May 20, 2012 at 10:19 p.m.

@29 LMFAO

#34
jelaninoel said on May 20, 2012 at 10:43 p.m.

@29 are u daft?

#35
HyperViperNZ said on May 20, 2012 at 10:59 p.m.

@34 & 35
telling it how it is brothers <3

#36
gensnroses said on May 20, 2012 at 11:02 p.m.

Nova should be one higher at least.

#37
OniBlanka said on May 20, 2012 at 11:08 p.m.

@29
Yup gotta agree with you there hyper. Shes def not 3 or 4 with or without assists. Zero isnt that scary as he relies on assists too much. good observation bro

#38
OniBlanka said on May 20, 2012 at 11:08 p.m.

Oops i mean shes def top 3 or 4

#39
Dat_Alexli_Guy said on May 21, 2012 at 2:28 a.m.

i feel that potentially felicia is better then wolverine, if there was a tier list they would be together in one category but not necessarily on the same side as the map suggest top and bottom and all round and weakness left and right. to elaborate on this she is a better anchor although you would want her to play point. In terms of her kitty help which allows her to have better mixups, she also has an otg which she can extend combo on not to mention her dive kick aswell which helps narrow down opponents. wolverine has an otg but only with xf. But this is all potentially speaking because obviously wolverine does better in tournaments and alot of it is determined by that, But i would say they are both in the same category because essentially they do the same thing.

#40
Dat_Alexli_Guy said on May 21, 2012 at 2:34 a.m.

#27 if what you say is true then zero is low tier coz it aint easy using him either but we all know the technicals of using a character does not interfere with their potentials on a tier list

#41
OniBlanka said on May 21, 2012 at 2:38 a.m.

Is MODOK really that high up? jesus

#42
massi4h said on May 21, 2012 at 3:05 a.m.

#40. Felicia doesn't have an easy crossup like wolverine does with beserker slash. Wolvie is also a better character used with assists (Felicia probably anchors better with x factor, but without it she needs assists to get in) and most assists allow him to otg and follow up. He really only needs extra damage with otg off of throws.

#43
Kurow said on May 21, 2012 at 3:22 a.m.

I agree with the list but what I know? XD... anyway can someone explain why is now Vergil considered to be so good? I still don't see any Vergil player in top 4 in tournaments. Probably only Yipes and OMGitsAndre and both have to work very hard to win.

#44
Der_tolle_Emil said on May 21, 2012 at 3:50 a.m.

Arthur, Tron and Phoenix all at the very bottom - my three favorite characters :( I'm glad I suck at this game and tier lists have no relevance for me personally. That also means that it's hard for me to judge how accurate this list is - makes for an interesting read though; And judging by how often I see certain characters in tournaments it really cannot be that far off.

Although I'm sure that the characters used in tournaments have more influence on tier lists than the other way round.

#45
Birdie said on May 21, 2012 at 4:27 a.m.

LOL @ Filipino Champ

You're damned straight that tier lists are highly opinionated, and there's no way I could ever take this idiot seriously. I always find a smile on my face whenever he gets his cocky ass handed to him. ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S A DOMINATING PERFECT in a versus game. ROFL

#46
manuelito1233 said on May 21, 2012 at 4:31 a.m.

Viper top tier, we all know what happened at Shadaloo Showdown >:)))

#47
Firebrand said on May 21, 2012 at 4:34 a.m.

I'd rather take a list like this than a list anywhere else.

#48
fdhsdfwe said on May 21, 2012 at 4:48 a.m.

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#49
Firebrand said on May 21, 2012 at 4:49 a.m.

(Ok, seriously. Why do people keep doing that!?)

#50
jjjjjoyboy said on May 21, 2012 at 4:58 a.m.

pretty accurate imo..just dante a lil too high...i think skrull should be ahead of hulk too

#51
jkuc316 said on May 21, 2012 at 6:15 a.m.

@Birdie

Have you seen Fchamp be arrogant in the past few weeks?I definitely think he has changed quite a bit

#52
TheGuardian07 said on May 21, 2012 at 7:02 a.m.

#31 sums up every tier list discussion

Like always, the characters I gravitate to are all top tier. The lowest one I normally use is Nova.

#53
Chibitox said on May 21, 2012 at 8:11 a.m.

@44 Watch recent Japanese footage you'll get an idea ;)
Probably top 5 (3?) anchor in the game. Gains plenty of meter, safe DHCs,600k lev 4 that you can combo after, great hitbox normals, teleports, incoming setups with sword throw. Very versatile overall, can fill any position in a team.

#54
RambroCampAlot said on May 21, 2012 at 9:22 a.m.

i thought dante would be s tier. he's the ryu of UMvC 3, easy to play with and extremely over used.

#55
RambroCampAlot said on May 21, 2012 at 9:24 a.m.

i mean ss

#56
HolyGhost said on May 21, 2012 at 9:36 a.m.

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#57
Espada said on May 21, 2012 at 9:38 a.m.

I think most people only think Zero is so good because people see him do good, but an actual zero player realizes that as a character he is not that powerful, with the proper assists, he is extremely powerful. Zero has no x factor potential compared to other characters, and needs very specific assists to extend combos and do damage. He is very good but is very team specific, he is not like wesker and can just be thrown on a team and can do good.

#58
tequilasauer said on May 21, 2012 at 10:02 a.m.

I think Spencer is above Vergil, personally, but other than that, I think both lists are pretty good.

I predicted months ago that Wesker would fall out of many people's top 3s and it's slowly becoming more and more a reality. That character is easy and his x-factor is sick, but he's got a lot of ways to be countered.

Right now, I have it at:
1. Zero
2. Spencer
3. Viper
4. Wesker
5. Vergil
6. Doom
7. Magneto
8. Wolvie
9. Dorm
10. Strider

#59
tequilasauer said on May 21, 2012 at 10:06 a.m.

#57

The thing is, spend any time with Viper, and you see just how free she is to do WHATEVER SHE WANTS. It's why I think her, Spencer, and Zero are S tier. They're extremely safe, they can kind of go nuts, and as long as they're going nuts properly (eg: not seismo-ing the wrong space), there's very little the opponent can do.

A character like Doom, on the other hand, despite being A+ tier and one of the absolute most versatile characters in the game, has limits. He can't get in very well, his air options are somewhat limited, etc. I think the beauty of Marvel though is that from S to A tier, there are fractions of differences between the 3 tiers (S, A+, A) and there are lots of characters that are in those tiers. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Ultimate Marvel 3 is one of the most balanced fighters in years.

#60
GokaiGreen said on May 21, 2012 at 10:24 a.m.

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#61
J_Tier said on May 21, 2012 at 10:29 a.m.

I think there are far too many factors in Marvel to come up with an accurate tier list.

A team-based tier list that takes assists, order, and match-ups into account would be far more accurate for this game, but near impossible as there are thousands of possibilities.

#62
sarif2soon said on May 21, 2012 at 10:30 a.m.

@61
yeah, right :P

#63
sarif2soon said on May 21, 2012 at 10:31 a.m.

EVERYONE here is qualified to make tier lists, but not pro players, NOOOOOOO.

#64
mfinnegan73 said on May 21, 2012 at 10:33 a.m.

Sentinal is high I know it is his opinion but his opinion is wrong.

#65
NyuBomber said on May 21, 2012 at 10:37 a.m.

I like Noel's list better, but would make the following changes for my opinion:

She-Hulk swaps with Sentinel.
Chun goes down a tier.
Iron Man goes up a tier.
Thor goes up a tier.
Storm swaps with Haggar.
MODOK swaps with Ryu.

#66
Vurzie said on May 21, 2012 at 10:38 a.m.

I think it is mostly the online warriors and Maximilian fanboys that think that Wesker is ss tier, no way in hell is wesker better than Viper, Vergil, or Zero. To be honest I think Wesker BARELY makes it into top 10.

#67
HolyGhost said on May 21, 2012 at 10:39 a.m.

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#68
tequilasauer said on May 21, 2012 at 10:40 a.m.

#62

That is the beauty of the game. It's more than just "Fei Long beats T.Hawk 7-3" or whatever that matchup is.

I think the idea of ranking characters on here isn't just how good they are on the battlefield going nuts, but also how well they fit on teams and contribute. It's why Doom is so good. I rock a Spencer/Vergil/Wesker team, but I'll tell you right now, a team like "V.Joe/Hsien-Ko/Skrull" scares the piss out of me, and yet the parts of that team are not that great, but the sum of the parts is pretty scary. It's what is great about Marvel 3, unless you are just REALLY bad at constructing a team, tier lists really don't matter too much.

#69
SteadiestShark said on May 21, 2012 at 10:44 a.m.

Of course Noel Brown would put ALL of his characters way lower than they should be.

I guess he just can't handle the fact that he uses an extremely strong team and that their abilities are a huge factor of why he's able to do so well.

It's nothing to be ashamed of, but don't lie about it.

(Obviously he needs skill to utilise their abilities...well, except for Wesker...and maybe even derping with Wolverine whilst being covered by Frank West's assist over and over)

#70
HolyGhost said on May 21, 2012 at 10:46 a.m.

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#71
HolyGhost said on May 21, 2012 at 10:48 a.m.

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#72
HolyGhost said on May 21, 2012 at 10:55 a.m.

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#73
ButterKnife said on May 21, 2012 at 11:07 a.m.

The has faults/well-rounded part of Noel's list makes no sense to me. It's like he ordered them at random. Rocket Raccoon well-rounded?... As good as he is for his assist, well-rounded is not a word I would choose to describe him.

#74
bobdole0 said on May 21, 2012 at 11:17 a.m.

the well-rounded/faults thing is part of the tier chart creator. fchamp has it too but covered it with the mid tiers. im pretty sure noel just ignored it

#75
gtfopanda said on May 21, 2012 at 11:19 a.m.

Poor Wright, was it necessary to destroy his only great tool?

Viper on top seems odd though.

#76
iMTopTier said on May 21, 2012 at 11:19 a.m.

Lol @ at people saying that Zero needs assist
He might needs an assist to do 1m with one bar but not to be a good character and i can say it cuz i use him as my anchor since vanilla....he is top tier but now people will use him more because a top player said he is top tier

#77
iMTopTier said on May 21, 2012 at 12:03 p.m.

@68 you gotta be a lv4XF Wesker user if you think that Wesker is better than Viper.....Viper doesnt needs assist to kill a character if you know her air BK cancel and her TK cancels. I use Viper since vanilla and being hard to use is one of the reasons she is top tier

#78
GaryTheStreamMonster said on May 21, 2012 at 12:11 p.m.

@77

Zero doesn't need assists to crack one mil

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9lHNW...

#79
pandaman64 said on May 21, 2012 at 12:23 p.m.

@77 - people have been saying zero is the best character in the game since literally the week after UMvC3 came out.

@78 - "I use Viper since vanilla and being hard to use is one of the reasons she is top tier"

lolwhut?

#80
iMTopTier said on May 21, 2012 at 12:25 p.m.

@79 my bad lol
@80 keep using Wesker

#81
BushinryuBro5 said on May 21, 2012 at 1:29 p.m.

Wow. I agree with #68. Just cause Champ loses to MarlinPie he puts Viper on top? Any character could be good with the right player and assists. I am still waiting for a godlike Phoenix Wright player to beat champ down so he moves the lawyer up a few tiers for no reason. -_-

#82
Rahavic said on May 21, 2012 at 1:39 p.m.

@59 Wtf is with ppl having Strider that high up and in top 10? I play Strider, you guys are all out of your minds for real. He is not top 10, top 20 maybe thats about it. Take Strider out of your 10 spot and put in the best zoner in the entire game Hawkeye and I agree with your list.

#83
Rahavic said on May 21, 2012 at 1:41 p.m.

Also Trish is always top 20 no matter the tier list. No she's not top 10, hell she might be exactly number 20, but the fact that she complete wrecks almost every top tier character outside of Magneto and someone using Vajra assist makes her solid top 20. These guys have her way too low for someone who has an 8-2 matchup against the likes of Wesker and Spencer.

#84
tequilasauer said on May 21, 2012 at 1:52 p.m.

#83

Because Strider with Orbs and X-Factor is DarkPhoenix-tier. He has the potential to wipe out your entire team within seconds.

He also has that assist that is so annoying. I thought about sticking Hawkeye tied for 10th and I used to have him in the top 10. I think he's an awesome anchor because Gimlet is one of the best supers in the game and he has sick traps, but I think he has a hard time really doing serious offense outside of zoning and Gimlet. He's so good though, as I think about it, I do wonder if he should be higher.

#82

Viper is one of the best point characters in the game and has one of the absolute best rushdown games. Getting her off of you is like trying to restrain a rabid badger on a quart of Redbull. She does need a solid assist character, but there are lots of those. And she has the lowest minimum damage scaling of the top tier characters so she does tons of damage late combo.

#85
tequilasauer said on May 21, 2012 at 1:56 p.m.

#78

I have Wesker lower than Viper, but the argument could easily be made that Wesker is better. The thing about Wesker is that he is absolutely the most versatile character in the game. On the battlefield, he is not too big of a problem to handle, but look at what else he can bring to your team. He has an OTG assist, a mashable super that can synergize with almost anyone in a DHC AND gives him a buff (glasses off), one of the best X-Factors in the game, tons of health, very good (not great) normals, a good teleport. He's extremely solid. In fact, his only real downside is that he's not too difficult to lame out and we've seen him so much that people have really had to learn how to handle him.

#86
HolyGhost said on May 21, 2012 at 2:17 p.m.

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#87
xBMxSage said on May 21, 2012 at 2:21 p.m.

@83 - You obviously haven't maxed out his mixup game potential. Strider is without a doubt top 10.

@66 - I take it you haven't seen a real Chun-Li in action. She either needs to go up one or stay in place and have others moved down. There are a number of characters on Noel's list that are not at all better than her.

#88
AeriALs said on May 21, 2012 at 2:25 p.m.

Tier-List isn't based on difficulty of a character. It's defined by how the character stands vs the rest when fully utilized. Just because wolverine is herp derp as f*ck and viper is very hard to use, doesn't mean wolverine is better. Viper has all the tools+more, just takes skill to utilize it.

#89
RuinedFaith said on May 21, 2012 at 2:28 p.m.

#42

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuGZQ4...
Why M.O.D.O.K. is sick.

#90
4everbuffy said on May 21, 2012 at 2:33 p.m.

Dark Phoenix should be on that list. She would be SSS tier. Even in this game, Dark Phoenix can kill any character without the help of assist like the most so called top tier needs.

#91
mcboone said on May 21, 2012 at 2:55 p.m.

lol @ noel browns list..... sentinel and dr strange D tier??? yeaaaaaa... but the top half of his list is good. i would have the top half of noels list with the bottom half of Fchamps.... that would be about right

#92
MrPavy said on May 21, 2012 at 4:25 p.m.

Doesnt matter cause people would just put Wesker on every single team since hes so easy to play

#93
kdavis851 said on May 21, 2012 at 4:29 p.m.

@89

This guy gets it.

#94
keyzerjose said on May 21, 2012 at 4:43 p.m.

@ 89 and 94 Agreed. The only time execution level should be taken account into a tier list is if there is a tie. Otherwise you have to assume the player is using the character to its full potential.

#95
Getdownbrown83 said on May 21, 2012 at 5:27 p.m.

i am very happy with the balance of this game. cuz many/most of the cast can become killers in the right hands in the rght team. i hope they leave this game alone and let it get its 10.

#96
bullitt23 said on May 21, 2012 at 6:24 p.m.

flipino champs looks more correct

#97
iMTopTier said on May 21, 2012 at 6:32 p.m.

People just use Wesker because he is brain dead does a lot of dmg with his own XF and even a noob can do his advanced combos

#98
ddferh said on May 21, 2012 at 6:48 p.m.

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#99
HyperViperNZ said on May 21, 2012 at 7:04 p.m.

@58
Yup, Zero needs assists to become and actual threat and I agree with everything, he is very team specific. Poor damage and health. Relies on assists to cause any major damage and to keep his combos up.

@60
Agreed completely

@68 HolyGhost
You're joking right? Viper is one of the characters the DOES NOT need assists to cause major damage because her movelist is so versatile, she has just about everything needed at her disposal to keep a combo going. She does average damage, not low damage. I've played people that complain that she does too much damage for a character with so much actually. Her dash is actually pretty good. One of the better ones. Not as great as Magneto's but still pretty good. I wouldn't say she "wastes" bars as she uses them effectively within combos to allow mixups and more damage. She gains meter very quickly and almost as fast as she uses it. Her X-factor is great as it makes her extremely fast and her combos can easily kill any opponent in one combo. Pretty much everything you said about her was wrong except for that "she is hard to use".

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