Users hacking Street Fighter X Tekken to use DLC characters in online matches

Here swings the mighty XBL/PSN ban hammer...

SFxT Capcom's biggest blunder

It's on the disc, I say its fair.

hahaha thats sounds nice!!

yet he still got ass raped

These people must not care when they do this, all it takes is a MS rep to watch a replay with the characters or someone to report their gamertag for game tampering and their xbox will be banned from xbl indefinitely.

Cool!! Serves them right! Thank you Crapcom!!

this game is a complete and udder mess. i think because of all the negativity coming from this game it will die out really really quick.

Thanks alot for ruining it for all of Us.
Now they'll probably come up with some counter tactic to Solve this issue. So it might be getting worse Now.
Lack of logic, respect and patience is a scary combination.

LMAO

These aren't any new news, I have been watching some streams where people use all the 12 "new" characters.

This is just pathetic. Capcom really should just be ashamed of themselves at this point. Again, glad I didn't pick up this horrible, horrible game.

goddam you capcom making a game and then selling us 80% of it, now I've got to break the law in order to get my moneys worth.

And game developers complain about losing money to piracy all the time, STOP GIVING US REASONS TO DO IT THEN!!!

Is it possible to tell apart someone who hacked the DLC like that and someone who bought it (of course after the DLC come out)? I'm curious if they can do anything about it. :P

It does seem strange that these characters are designed and playable, they are actually being used online, but you sfxt guys won't officially be able to play with them for MONTHS. I hope they continue to support the sf4 series.

hackers ruin everything.

Microsoft needs to do their job and ban those people.

I'm kind of torn in this debate. On one hand, people who bought the game have every right to hack it and do with it what they want. On the other hand, it still doesn't seem right/fair given an argument I made after they announced the Vita version and subsequent 12 chars for consoles.

While I am enjoying SFxT and it's taking some getting used to, I am now under the impression that the game is more of a trial thing, or a BETA (if you will). It's getting about as much of a backlash as SFAlpha 1 did with the chain combo thing, and we later found out that Alpha 1 was unfinished & "rushed."

With the sheer amount of DLC that the video last week said, maybe there is a lot planned for the future. However, the 12 characters thing was HUGE mistake with how Capcom did it, and as much as I support them, I can't defend them on the way they did it. Maybe Chris Sven was poignant when he said he "wished they had done things differently", but sadly, he didn't have any control on what was done, nor did Seth. They screwed up...no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

@Kawalorn the xbox has to be jtaged in order to use the unlock files, xbl usually detects when a modded xbox uses live and will ban it from the online network

I wanna see how quick capcom will be to patch this. Notice how they extremely delay making updates that help the community. But when it comes to fixing something that's gonna affect their income they jump right on it.Face it people capcom doesn't care about the FGC anymore, they found a way to exploit the love we have for fighting games by making us pay ridiculous prices for it :(

GIVE ME CHARACTERS NYAOO! OR GIVE ME DEATH!

Silly kids.. now that you are seeing the characters online are all like babies "Waaa! why he has access to the characters and not me?" wait 6 months and pay your additional $20 dollars... If capcom do not want this to happen again they need to stop the disc locked content bullsh**t.

Another Wall of complaints about the principal of it all.
If it's so bad then leave it.
We all know that the ones complaining really are the ones enjoying the game.
But my opinion doesn't matter does it.
The mob has made it's mind and following it, without even questioning the reason behind.

It's like watching a U-Country mob, laughable

Seriously I cant blame them, if i found out how to use the characters that are on the disc i played to have access to i would use them as well.

@Saotome2u
before i even make my response i want to say i don't support capcom with the on-disc dlc, and i don't like having my games micro-transactioned to me. BUT according to the law (Digital Rights Copyright ACT/ DMCA) modding your xbox/playstation breaks the terms of service and you can be sued and or receive time in jail, and if you go about illegal means to access data on the disc that was meant to be sold at a later date you are breaking the law which if caught you can also be sued and or be prosecuted with time in jail(federal).

I can't blame them.

But the banhammer will swing.

if you are only upset about DLC, because it's on the disc, you are literally retarded.
oh you gonna take something out of the game, to sell it to me at a later date? ok cool. wait it's on the disc already? nooooooo!

also what #10 said

@20 Oh so for example it will be impossible to detect like for example... I dunno... on PC? :P Well good to know that it's somewhat unusable on consoles.

I guess Capcom learned their lesson now...

Actually, they should have learned from cabinets of SSF4 AE. People hacked their way to into Oni and Evil Ryu before their official release. It's no different they hacked their way into the unlockable contents already in the disc.

GG capcom

@CBX #20
Hm, ok. Might be my own ignorance then. I kinda likened hacking your PS3/X360, games, etc. to jailbreaking/hacking your smartphones, which is now legal.

Nonetheless, I think the majority of can agree, that Capcom didn't go about this the right way, and I agree. Locked content on disc is really not DLC.

@19

Lol good grief. There is no reason to be torn. They HACKED the game, which is a term that seems to be thrown around lightly. They literally broke into the system and obtained content illegally that they weren't granted access to. It doesn't matter if you own the disc. You pay for what they allow you to use on that disc.

Now of course, having content locked on disc is something that capcom obviously expected, and they considered dealing with some hackers compared to having mass incompatibility issues to be the lesser of two evils for everyone involved, and i agree. As far as these hackers, I have no problem with them personally if they are just opening content as opposed to hacking and changing attributes to their advantage, but they obviously run the risk of the banhammer.

For Capcom's sake, I hope they just go back to their usual routine of full game updates ala Ultimate, or damn near every SF series they have every made, just to keep people from crying. SF2, Turbo, and Super on SNES with like a year apart from each other. Champion edition on Genesis. 3 versions of SF3 with two disc releases on dreamcast. SFA 1, 2, 2 gold, 3, 3 upper...my point is, this is nothing new. In that list, there are like 10 games, and only 3 or 4 are legit different games.

Look at Blazblue. We have had 3 different disc releases at full price points (which usually quickly dropped) over the last couple years of basically the same game with balance changes and a couple of added characters. I never hear people complain about that.

If nobody had hacked the disc and this whole thing had been a secret, and people found out later that they were giving us 12 characters for only 20, people would be elated! Though frankly, the loudest complainers seem to be on EH anyway. Not even SRK or gamefaqs posters complain so loudly.

@CBX:

Does it matter if you're doing it for your own personal use? Meaning, as long as he's not selling your "service" (hacking the game), you're not in trouble?

@cbx your also forgetting 1 VERY important detail which is also included that very same law only applies when the said hacker is distributing the means and or technology used to hack the files in other words someone like me who has hacked the game can hack it all I want because it's mine (in a manner of speaking) but when I go online and use or play the content then I'm in trouble or if I was to openly tell people how to attain the product through hacking means then I could be sued because I've hacked many a game and only to get a taste of what I paid for but I've NEVER gone online and used it to be unfair but also because I don't wanna get banned or arrested

This is actually my only real problem with the "DLC" characters. Other people who hack their system/disc can access this content early. It's unfair to us who actually wait and get the content legitimately. Capcom really should do something about this. Microsoft/Sony banning the people who use them online has no penalty for those who hack and stay offline. These people get months of practice with characters before everyone else, that's my only real problem with it.

@RandomJohn

Doesn't matter if your doing it for your own personal use or not the fact that you are accessing content that is meant to be sold at a later date without paying for it is the same as stealing.

@keebler
No no, I get your point completely. My main issue is that it's just locked content on disc, not DLC. How could Capcom not expect that hackers would dig through the contents to find hidden stuff. It happened with MvC3, SF4:AE, so of course this happened.

I'm not really complaining/whining about it. $20 for an "updated" game later this year is......kinda....fair? *shiver* I personally thought it would have gone over better for it to be around $15 instead, given what's happened. But like I said, I'm really convinced now that SFxT is more of a trial run for future collabos given that, on some level, it does feel unfinished, despite it being fun.

I'm gla people hacked it and all but now they are being retarded this is like robbing a bank and going shopping the same day I don't really know if what they are doing is illegal but dang just use them offline and lay low I really don't want to see people get involved with the law side but ssdd taking risks

I hope they get banned and then prosecuted.

BTW - they are idiots for going online with the characters, since it is pretty easy to track who used these hacked characters in ranked matches.

Good. They paid for this content when they bought the disk. Didn't Game Genie allow us to "modify" our game playing experiences in the 80s and early 90s?

Its not the players fault Capcom didnt take safety measures to ensure this wouldnt happen. Oh well, serves them right for ripping us off.

@40

Anyone with even the slightest bit of common sense would know that this is illegal. Breaking the game like this actually ruins it for everyone.

Hope they'll think that it'll all be worth it when the ban hammer strikes them down.

GETDOWNBROWN83 - U STUPID

ENJOY THEM 12 CHARACTERS FOR AS LONG AS IT LASTS ...

#43

The fact that they have to "hack" into the system to unlock these characters meant they DID in fact take safety measures. Not very good ones, but they are sufficient as most people cannot access them and those who do are opening themselves up for liability.

ILLEGAL - ILLEGAL -ILLEGAL

IT WAS ILLEGAL FOR WOMEN TO VOTE TOO

U MAD ?

Screw this DLC crap.

Good for these people. I wish them the best... hopefully they can somehow hurt Capcom.

@47 "was" as is in past, now legal. what these guys are doing is illegal.

@47

Are you under the impression that those two things are equivalent?

I really don't blame them for hacking the characters. Capcom really f**ked us on this one

@39

Sorry, i was really only addressing you specifically with my first paragraph. The whining part was toward the general posting populace lol.

But to those of you saying that it's unfair hackers get to access first, I understand your complaint. The issue is that without the on-disc setup, we would be prone to compatibility issues later. Both AE and Mortal Kombat had issues with it. And Ultimate completely segregated vanilla users. I think Capcom's thought was they understood people would be annoyed at having to buy another whole disc, or having to be separated from people who choose not to download, so they opted for this on-disc right. In their defense, which is better for the masses? A very very small minority of hackers with access to characters? Or possibility of even more online issues with everyone? Obviously, Capcom is just trying different routes to end up at a place that works for everyone while also achieving their own goals.

Aside from Microsoft and Sony possibly banning people's accounts that go online, I could see some of capcom's future updates (such as the one to fix the online sound lag) containing something that would conflict with someone that hacked the disc.

@43

Game Genie is totally different. I can guarantee you if Game Genie had the ability to unlock content that you were supposed to pay to access, it wouldn't have existed. Talking about Capcom not taking "safety measures"...I bet you are also one of the types of people that raised hell when they trying doing rather restrictive measures on AE PC due to piracy. Guess Capcom cant win with you eh? Your last sentence speaks volumes of either your idiocy of the system, or just a broken moral compass. It's literally the equivalent of thinking Gamestop is overcharging you for a game, but they left copies of the game in the cases near the door and easy to steal. Serves Gamestop right for trying to rip them off though.

#51

I'll use a better analogy.

It used to be illegal for blacks to vote.

Hackers = blacks

Accessing locked content = voting

Capcom = the plantation owner

2k bp and the guy sucked pure anal ring with blanka...

you know if i had the tools to do this whole hack thing, i would like doing this, seems fun.

The Disk, $60
The addition Characters, $20
Beating someone online with them hacked for free...Priceless

I wish they'd just give us the DLC characters for free. I bet a lot of people would buy the game if news of that got around. $60 > $20

All I can say is hell f*cking yeah. Play the sh*t out of the characters, get your moneys worth!

@17

They didn't ruin anything, Capcom didn't want this to happen? Simple DO NOT includem in the disc and no one will have anything to hack from it. Why can't video game companies understand that pirates and hackers have been around since FOREVER and NO ONE will stop them.

@53 finally somebody that thinks :')

#14 thank you I couldn't agree more I did buy this and I have to say now you wonder why piracy exist because these COMPANIES are ass at satisfying customers like they claim to do that was the past you had bs but now most COMPANIES care not of the consumer but management cares about them pockets well guess what karma works two ways screw consumers and you better believe someone is going to find a workaround to get it for free.

@53

OMG the IGNORANCE!! Compatibility issues?? Do you know what a damn MANDATORY PATCH is??? Simple as that, it is done with the rest of the games (Forza, SSF4 new costumes, MK9, BB, etc...). Why do you people always fall for PRs crappy nonsense?

@54 I'm gonna go ahead and say slavery where women were raped children murdered all all other heinous acts as a result of it would be a very poor uneducated analogy for anything about a damn video game

And this is why you don't put the Super version on the SAME DISC and force people to wait for half a year. Now hackers are getting to experience the ultimate version of the game long before fall while the loyal fanbase has to wait.

Capcom also poorly hid these characters away. As Keits said, enjoy getting blown up on the release day of these characters because the hackers are much more familiar with them.

@45 oh I will enjoy them for the next 5 or more years - haters gonna hate

You guys blow my mind. It's funny how no matter what Crapcom does to you, there will always be people to defend them. Crapcom is milking you guys blind, selling things that are already on the disc at a later time, for $20.

Honestly, my opinion on this subject is who cares what Crapcom's original plan was. If you want the characters take them. In essence this can be considered "stealing" but this isn't actually hurting anybody, since you already own it. This new business model of games as a service is stupid, and I own what I paid for, not what is advertised. This will only stop once you people stop following all of the stupid rules that people have conditioned you to follow.

tl;dr. If you have the means to access the characters, do it. Let all of the people whine/get angry at you for being able to do something they can't. They will eventually break down and hack it themselves.

The banhammer is useless.

If I was smart enough to find the DLC on the disk and unlock them, I'm sure I would be smart enough to find my xbox ID tag and change it to something else when/if I get banned.

Message to Capcom: If you don't want people getting your DLC for free, don't put it on disc.

@56

It's also painfully easy. If you did some Google work, you'd see that Capcom made it easy for anyone with about $70-80 in their pocket or a flashed console access the characters.

lol. that is all I have to say

Xbox ban hammer and capcom ban hammer time "Unauthorized copying, reverse engineering, transmission, public performance, rental, pay for play, or circumvention of copy protection is strictly prohibited"

When you screw over fans, they screw you back over. Maybe we should ban Capcom

TUTORIAL ON HOW TO HACK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74JLTO...

@68

Exactly, oh and for people who talk about the IP license crap and access to data, I do not care what any of you guys say. I bought the disc so the disc is MINE and I have the RIGHT to sell it, burn it, throw it in the air, play it, play catch with it, go swimming with it, oh and guess what, HACK WHATEVER DATA IS INSIDE IT, I bought the disc so I do whatever the hell I want with MY disc.

I wish they release an easy method to hack the characters, costumes and gems.
If that happened, it would be fun to see who would wait to buy the Disk Lock Content. That will really happen in the PC version, if there is one of course.

Capcom actually killed the game for me. I'll wait for the NAMCO version with cross fingers, hoping they don't mess up.

A lot of people here don't know about hacking.
These hackers put the screws to Capcom and they deserve it.

@71

"Unauthorized" reverse engineering? LOL, I wonder who the hell makes these stupid laws. If I buy a Toyota today, they are not authorizing me to say change the engine or open it and change some parts, yet if I do it's NOT illegal. Company based laws are so stupid.

Capcom is stupid. Since their so money greedy, They should have put the 12 characters there since the beginning. I bet doing that would have gotten them more sales and money from that game than it does right now. Why I say that? Because if my calculations are correct, way more ppl would have bought the game if they release the game with the additional 12 characters on it from the start. Don't get me wrong, this is a good game, but they should have done this from the start. Besides, who the hell would pay for colors? If they put the custom colors and 12 characters on the disc from release, this game would have had a even more sale from then the start.

DAM

Blanka looked so weak, hope he still does decent damage.

@34

BlazBlue was never offered for full price after CT. CS was 40 bucks and added a ton of features and revamped the whole cast and engine/gameplay mechanics. They added a new storyline, new modes such as legion mode, new characters, revamped moves for every character along with more moves, challenge/trial mode with viable combos, tutorial mode that teaches you the basics of fighters, tutorial on how to use each character in the game in a competitive fight...I could keep going.

After that, CS2 was free with balance tweaks. BBCS:EX came out at 40 bucks and is jam packed with features.

The only complaints about BB was the overpriced DLC characters for 8 bucks each. However, they had a lot of work done on them and were very unique...They also came with BBCS:EX.

BlazBlue is barely the same game as it was in CT.

Why not just have the DLC characters online and not on the disc? Is it that difficult? That way, they can avoid looking like avaricious tyrants!

Also, the spelling in a lot of these comments is pathetic. One guy used "udder" when he was trying to say "complete and utter mess."
Hahahahaha.

I don't think the game's a mess. I think it's fun. I don't know what more you want.

wither you are for or against this, its against the TOS for XBL and PSN, thus the ban hammer shall swing hard.

some will see this as a protest, others as a troll on those who can't use them yet. but hey one mans terrorist is another man's freedom fighter I suppose.

what the hackers are doing is for sure illegal, but do you righteous fools really think Capcom was going to come out and say, "oh the DLC is all on your disc and we're going to charge you another $20 to unlock the rest in another 7 months."? You're idiots.

The hackers aren't doing this for any kind of personal gain, or to get stuff for free. I'm not calling them angels of mercy either, but they are exposing Capcom in their business practices and we the people can decide whether What capcom is doing is right or wrong.

I think Capcom is wrong and to a point doing something illegal as well, false advertising. They are calling the locked content on the disc "Downloadable Content". By definition DLC is something apart from what is on the disc. And of course Capcom is not the only one guilty of this, but this is the Fighting game communnity so this is our primary example.

Look what's going on with EA and the Mass Effect 3 situation. There's a big complaint taking place with EA making big public promises of multiple endings, yet the ending is exactly the same for all players, even if you have a character that started from the first game.

Yeah these game companies are businesses out for profits, but is us the gamers that give them these profits, so even if Capcom or EA don't fix the the lies they told, we have every right to complain to them to the point of irritation, which is probably worse then them actually just doing something to say sorry and moving on with our lives. I mean look what happened last year with the PSN being down for almost 2 months. You really think Sony could have lived that down had they not done the "Welcome Back" package and publicly apologized?

So please if you think Capcom is completely in the right in all this, then so be it, but don't stifle the vocies of reason. They're working just as much for fairness to gamers.

Lol only gives meore character to dominate online not even a big deal lol. We should stop hating on them because they can use them lol. Its still a video game. The cusmers didn't ask for disc unlocks by cash. Its apart of the original game lol. U kno how mamy games had hidden things on them lol. It don't bother me one bit for them to use the characters one bit. Don't mean I gotta do it also. Next games capcom come out with they just need to forget about dlc charaters is all

@83

Nobody's expecting them to say that from the get go, we all know hackers exist as do they. So it was as SIMPLE as to NOT INCLUDE the chars ON DISC. Leave them out and release them as true DLC and please don't come with the "but big file sizes are a pain", that's a stupid excuse, just let the damn thing downloading while you go to work or do something else besides gaming.

Stay free, Blanka/Jack. Oh wait!

@86

Greatest comment in the history of EventHubs.

Lol, Blanka got owned by Hugo.

HAAAAAAAAAXXXXX!!!!!
*throws computer monitor*

This is very easy to do if you have the right system... configuration. It just involves patching the disc and burning it. These people can get banned, but Capcom won't be the ones banning them. If they are banned, it will be because Microsoft detects them playing patched discs. Otherwise, they'll be free to do as they please. The current, latest firmware of flashed 360s is very good at defeating and avoiding the challenges from the challenge table in the system.

Lol, I remember in other fighting games where people hack charecters to be played. They often were so not finished that it would crash the game after certian things happened, or animations would wonk out cause they didn't exist, and you couldn't take them online cause the code didn't exist to allow it.

What we see here is the characters are so finished as to be playable in every capacity, including online. I was giving capcom the benefit of the doubt that maybe we were waiting a long time because the characters were close to being finished, but not yet finished. Apparently, they are totally done. And so is this game.

I think it's the fact that it's on the disk that makes Capcom look shady as hell. Makes it look like the content was cut in order to artificially mark up the price later. That may or may not have been the case but it definitely looks that way.
They should have:
1) Man up and release the full version on day 1 for the money they wanted which is $80 or
2) still lie to us but don't be stupid enough to put it on the disk. That way it would seem like they are still working on it. It would look like it was legitimate DLC and not this bull "DLC"
Either of those 2 options would have been better than what they ended up doing.

I'm salty as hell but only because I don't have access to them because if I did I'd be using them too I wont lie there. Capcoms fault for putting them on the disc so good luck to those using them.

I'm a Brazilian lawyer (soon to be a judge/magistrate ^_^) and I'd say to a client that he can hack all the way out the content, but he can't distribute the content neither the ways to obtain the content. To me, this specific act of hack is more equivalent to the act of getting a game before the launch than to the act of steal (as some of you guys implied).

I don’t know how you north Americans deal with the IP subject, but the majority of the laws are international, so, I’m pretty sure that it's very compatible.

Well, the Law is an argumentative science, and everybody can try support/sustain their own points, but to me this is the better answer.

About the whole situation, well… I feel avenged!!!! loool... Almost like I felt when they hacked Sony – and I’m a PS3 user! ^_^

I still feel like if the hackers never hacked and they never looked for the chars on disc, we'd be happy, we'd be amazed at the 12 char dlc and everything would be great.

no one told the hackers to hack and find this..they did it on their own to see what they could find. so they ruin the experience for everyone.

there are people who won't even buy the game because of this. the game is GOOD without those new characters/costumes and such. People harp too much on stupid trivial things and won't give a game a chance.

In an unjust world, one has to break the unjust law to attain justice.

cool story....

WHY YOU MAD CAPCOPS?... WHY?

sounds good. i may buy this game (used) yet

CBX
You are a stupid person, and a very narrow minded being.