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Updated: 2 player Street Fighter X Tekken co-op mode on Xbox 360 won't be fixed, problem on Microsoft's end

Posted by Jonathan 'Catalyst' Grey • March 6, 2012 at 3:20 p.m. PST
Updated: 2 player Street Fighter X Tekken co-op mode on Xbox 360 won't be fixed, problem on Microsoft's end Updated: Svensson has posted a new comment on this matter at hand.

Bad news for people hoping to play the 2 player co-op mode in Street Fighter X Tekken with an in-person friend against others online on the Xbox 360, as Capcom USA vice president, Christian Svensson, recently explained the situation.

Will 2 player local co-op on Xbox Live be patched in for the 360 version of Street Fighter X Tekken? — Weegee

Svensson: It will not be patched and apologies for the manual inclusion. Seems it was an oversight. The difference has to do with how Xbox Live differs from how it handles online and offline accounts.

According to the team:

"PS3 version: It is possible to mix and match online and offline players for scramble battles and pair play battles. Two local players can play on the same PS3 using 1 PSN ID, and play against other players online.

360 version: It is NOT possible to mix and match online and offline players for scramble battles and pair play battles. So you either have to have all players be offline and local (so 4 players, 1 Xbox) or have all the players be online (4 players, 4 Xboxes)."

The reason for this difference is because of the architecture differences between gamertags and PSN IDs. I’m not sure of the technical details, but basically it amounts to: Sony made it so you can mix and match online and offline, and Microsoft made it so you can’t.

Svensson: I'm going to be looking into this issue further btw. I'm also a bit confused by the feedback from the team.

Source: Capcom Boards, submitted by ZBD18 and an anonymous reader.

Comments

Ing_Goodface said on March 6, 2012 at 9:46 a.m.

God damn it, Microsoft.

#1
Tabris said on March 6, 2012 at 9:47 a.m.

I don't see why they can't do what you do in CoD, Halo, GoW, etc. where one person signs in on a guest account.

#2
Jookey said on March 6, 2012 at 9:47 a.m.

Microsoooooooft!

#3
Oroku_Saki said on March 6, 2012 at 9:47 a.m.

Yep, you must all be paying for "Dat" Gold account. ¬_¬"
Not to start a console war, but it seems Sony has the better perks for this game.
SMH, tsk tsk.

#4
Von_Kunlun_BOOF said on March 6, 2012 at 9:48 a.m.

Microsoft: Only gives exclusives and sh!t to FPS.

Sony: Only gives exclusives and sh!t to fighters.

How about they try fixing the sound on the game? OR we can get DLC that makes it so the sound functions properly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h472Nm...

#5
cmack92 said on March 6, 2012 at 9:48 a.m.

lmao i guess no excellent SFxT adventures wit gootecks and ross unless they have a ps3

#6
RebornOdin said on March 6, 2012 at 9:50 a.m.

#5

Uh, how is this "exclusive" to PS 3? You do realize that this was completely out of both Microsoft and Capcom's hands right? You do realize that the Xbox 360 came out in 2006, right?

Psst, nothing like this has been close to being done before outside of MK 9. What, you think Microsoft anticipated this would happen? How cute.

#7
zferolie said on March 6, 2012 at 9:51 a.m.

Ah good old microsoft. Finding something else that the PS3 does better. Not that the frat boys and their core audiance cares, too busy playing Call of Duty 65: The Spanish American War.

#8
Squid_Biskets said on March 6, 2012 at 9:51 a.m.

Great...

#9
Pikalew said on March 6, 2012 at 9:52 a.m.

Pretty sure Mortal Kombat had the ability to play two people at one xbox vs 1 or 2 online. Not impressed. It's as if capcom are actually trying to make people not buy the game.

#10
RebornOdin said on March 6, 2012 at 9:53 a.m.

#8, #10

Aw look, two people that have no idea what they're talking about, how cute.

It's cute both of you have no idea how consoles work, or how you think it's as simple as a button press to magically fix any issue.

#11
Squid_Biskets said on March 6, 2012 at 9:53 a.m.

So wait, why can I play Gears of War 3 and Halo Reach online with a buddy sitting next to me, and not this game?

#12
smok3yhaze2 said on March 6, 2012 at 9:54 a.m.

This is some BS. They should give us some dlc characters for free then.

#13
icejohn said on March 6, 2012 at 9:54 a.m.

lol they sure like to tell you this stuff late

#14
NyuBomber said on March 6, 2012 at 9:54 a.m.

@5 Previous newspost shows they're aware of the online sound issue, which they say is due to how the new netcode handles lag, and are looking into a fix.

On-topic: Uuuugh. S'all I got to say.

#15
Jookey said on March 6, 2012 at 9:54 a.m.

@7

Actually the 360 came out in 2005

#16
Wedge said on March 6, 2012 at 9:54 a.m.

Yeah a bunch of other games have the capability of doing this on 360, Svensson is talking out his ass as usual.

#17
RebornOdin said on March 6, 2012 at 9:54 a.m.

#12

Maybe it's because those are two completely different games with different network structures?

Maybe it's because you're using just one gamertag when you do that?

#18
Asmiliz said on March 6, 2012 at 9:55 a.m.

I bet Gootecks and Mike Ross are raising their angry fists into the air right now.

#19
Mr_Bogard said on March 6, 2012 at 9:55 a.m.

This is BS. Like post #2 said you can do it under a guest account in Halo, COD, Gears, etc. This is typical Capcom BS. It's probably another timed exclusive contract with Sony.

#20
TwoCoins said on March 6, 2012 at 9:55 a.m.

Umm...did MK9 have this available?

#21
RebornOdin said on March 6, 2012 at 9:55 a.m.

#17

Hey kid, no, he's not. It's called you don't know how the network infrastructure works.

Psst, you only use one gamertag on Xbox 360.

#22
Whengameswerefun said on March 6, 2012 at 9:55 a.m.

#6 it is still possible but they would have to be on seperate xbox consoles.

#23
Sakura said on March 6, 2012 at 9:55 a.m.

Gotta love how they wait until post launch to bring up this little detail...

Glad I didn't pick up this game at launch, cause this would have been a deal breaker.

#24
thekidba1 said on March 6, 2012 at 9:55 a.m.

hahahahaha xbox always getting the business

#25
Dafamx said on March 6, 2012 at 9:55 a.m.

LMAO, nice one Capcom.

#26
thepurist said on March 6, 2012 at 9:56 a.m.

I'm glad I always pick my fighting games for my PS3 rather than my X360.

#27
MJTH said on March 6, 2012 at 9:56 a.m.

@ #6 Yeah looks like the Cross Dimensional adventures of Gooteks and Mike Ross may be a no show :(

#28
Mr_Bogard said on March 6, 2012 at 9:56 a.m.

Yes...MK did have this. Capcom is just BSing right now.

#29
Asmiliz said on March 6, 2012 at 9:56 a.m.

#21 Yes it certainly did. I havent thought of that. Hop somebody tells capcom, cause Microsoft isnt going to fix anything.

#30
Squid_Biskets said on March 6, 2012 at 9:57 a.m.

OH and Mortal Kombat!!! You can play that with a buddy on your couch, and both go online together.

#31
OllyA said on March 6, 2012 at 9:59 a.m.

what a load of bullsh*t, Mortal Kombat allowed this...

#32
maxs2d2ace said on March 6, 2012 at 9:59 a.m.

well you get what you advertise for lol.

#33
BLAFY said on March 6, 2012 at 10 a.m.

@2 you are exactly right, that was what I was thinking. Just sign in as a guest and it should work, but I guess not.

Also I hate that you have to sign in as guest when you have you and a player next to you play the same game. Its so stupid, I guess ps3 has the best and original idea.

#34
Benneh said on March 6, 2012 at 10:05 a.m.

not really sure I see how this is microsofts "issue", if it's a feature readily available in other games. Did they not test for this? It's one of the major "features" of the game, why wouldn't they test to make sure it worked properly? If it's a problem with a netcode, then i mean i don't really know im not a developer. this is just kinda sucks.

#35
hydramarine said on March 6, 2012 at 10:07 a.m.

Why does the second person even has to use his own account. Have him appear as nobody with no username, who cares. As long as 2 people local can play online.

Am I missing something here? Weird design decision.

If I cant get BP from those matches, more power to me. I should still be able to play as a nobody.

#36
Ing_Goodface said on March 6, 2012 at 10:07 a.m.

And did anybody notice that the back of the Xbox package says '38 characters'? God damn liars.

#37
Atrkl said on March 6, 2012 at 10:07 a.m.

This is absolutely ridiculous, Capcom should be completely ashamed of themselves for this. Disgusting.

#38
Kuei said on March 6, 2012 at 10:10 a.m.

This is utter bull$hit since you can play 2v2 online in MK9 and a lot of other games where only one account need to sign in. It's just that Capcom is too lazy to do it

#39
Von_Kunlun_BOOF said on March 6, 2012 at 10:11 a.m.

RebornOdin gets "stingy a55hole who thinks he knows everything" of the year.

#40
Beshoul said on March 6, 2012 at 10:11 a.m.

#35

"Did they not test for this? It's one of the major "features" of the game, why wouldn't they test to make sure it worked properly?"

I absolutely agree! What the f*ck were they doing?!

#41
Nader886 said on March 6, 2012 at 10:11 a.m.

DAMN YOU CAPCOM!!! im mk did it on xbox 360 then so can you!!!

#42
infr4mer said on March 6, 2012 at 10:12 a.m.

capcom. all of this stuff is possible to fix, it just matters on how hard you try.

#43
maxs2d2ace said on March 6, 2012 at 10:13 a.m.

#38
hey hey hey bro, i thought you thought "their tactics are perfect ;)" bro. hmmmm

#44
SsjBizzle said on March 6, 2012 at 10:14 a.m.

Blame MS? Blame Capcom, how lazy is this to not know? And why is this the ONLY game that has this problem? Man...This is some BS right here. So were getting 12 less chars..and now half the modes, good shi-.

#45
Maryokutai said on March 6, 2012 at 10:15 a.m.

@11: There’s no need to know "how consoles work". If there are games out there which offer such a feature on Xbox, it’s possible, simple as that. So when Capcom says it doesn’t work for whatever reason they made up, they’re just making excuses.

#46
zferolie said on March 6, 2012 at 10:15 a.m.

@11.

I majored in video games design for a few years, and work as an IT tech now. I know how systems work, and it's not just a simple button press. Honestly, I was more attacking the core, rad, CoD only gamer then microsoft itself.

This issue was I guess caused by Capcom not looking at how the 360 work, and adjusting their game accordingly. I have seen online and offline gameplay on the 360. Hell, I did that all the time in Halo! I Think Capcom mainly focused on the PS3, and not the 360.

And can you blame them? In japan, capcom's home country, 360's are unpopular, compared to the PS3, that and it seems that Sony is willing to pay Capcom more, or work with them more then Microsoft, given the lack of exclusive characters, and Pac Man and Mega Man being Sony only for awhile. No wonder they messed this up.

#47
AnaboliChris said on March 6, 2012 at 10:16 a.m.

lmfao. guess ratings will be lower now.

#48
BLAFY said on March 6, 2012 at 10:16 a.m.

Yes you can play 2v2 online in mk9

2 people in one home vs another 2 via online is possible.

DLC
Online not right

Super Super version soon

I know they said that they were not going to do another but I feel they may.

EXAMPLE 1
SF4 had a small online issue which was there were no lobbies only you and one other person. Later came ssf4 and they finally fixed the online problem

EXAMPLE 2
MVC3 had an online problem, you could not watch the current match as you wait your turn to play the game. They fixed that problem in UMVC3

Today now they have this problem, I knew something was going to happen wrong via online with this game. So its not microsoft fault its capcom, maybe they just dont get along with microsoft.

#49
HyperFlow said on March 6, 2012 at 10:16 a.m.

you can do this on Fifa. It is possible so thats not a good enough excuse. Absolutely ridiculous, I was looking forward to that feature. If I didnt want this so badly I would cancel pre order and boycott the game.

#50
Unknown_Unknown said on March 6, 2012 at 10:20 a.m.

Man, Capcom loves you guys soooo much.

#51
Gameplan said on March 6, 2012 at 10:20 a.m.

Damn! Talk about deal breakers.

Still, I don't understand how is this not possible, lots of other games let you do couch co-op online with a single gold account + guest account, i.e. GoW, Halo, CoD, L4D. Even MK let you play 2 local players vs online players. SMH

#52
AnaboliChris said on March 6, 2012 at 10:20 a.m.

#49, Yes they will do a Super edition through DLC much like how AE was and AE2012.

#53
poplin said on March 6, 2012 at 10:23 a.m.

capcom is inexcusably lazy. they just didnt want to bother dealing with guest accounts.

#54
Ett said on March 6, 2012 at 10:23 a.m.

What a load of bull. Many many games have that option for a guest account Gamertag(1) even Mortal Kombat has that options. Just say was extra work too get that mode on the Xbox360 time that was needs too put "dlc" on disk. I don't have a problem the "dlc" But you should make sure that the basic game work as advertised in all the media , site , trailers and even the game manual. before making on disk "dlc".

Better get the fact strait before the pc version because that will mostly be a 360 port so.

#55
SsjBizzle said on March 6, 2012 at 10:23 a.m.

Oh wait..So you can Coop Online with online VS Online? Oh then everythings cool for me. But yea this problem hasn't occurred with any other game as far as I know, so this was just lazy on CC's part IMO to not know or to forget.

#56
TaurusMAGNUS said on March 6, 2012 at 10:25 a.m.

Sooooo, can you still go co-op online if your both signed into different online accounts? If not, then this is definitely on Capcom.

#57
Pat1711 said on March 6, 2012 at 10:26 a.m.

This is complete and utter bullshiznit. Mortal Kombat is able to do same Xbox co-op online perfectly. This is a problem on Capcom's lazy ass end.

#58
bagumain said on March 6, 2012 at 10:26 a.m.

There are a TON of other games that successfully allow guest play with absolutely no problems at all on 360. Capcom said, pre-release, we could play 2v2 online on both systems. As has happened with this company before, the actual truth didn't come out until after everyone's pre-orders had gone through and we already had the game. What's worse is they are blaming the Microsoft infrastructure, when plenty of other games do it with ease? When is Capcom going to honestly and earnestly take some blame for something that's obviously their own fault?

Again: This is not the fault of the 360. This is the fault of Capcom, who can't really seem to do anything right these days.

#59
Kawalorn said on March 6, 2012 at 10:28 a.m.

Um... why would you even need to be logged on 2 accounts or seomthing like that for it to work? Can't it just accept the account of player 1 and not give a damn about who is player 2? I don't see a problem here...

#60
bagumain said on March 6, 2012 at 10:29 a.m.

Accidentally posted earlier than intended with my last post. To close out it out: I'm just glad I didn't get roped into actually paying for this game this time. Good luck getting me to actually pay for a Capcom product again.

#61
Wbzz said on March 6, 2012 at 10:29 a.m.

@45

"Blame MS? Blame Capcom, how lazy is this to not know? And why is this the ONLY game that has this problem? Man...This is some BS right here. So were getting 12 less chars..and now half the modes, good shi-."

WORD!

#62
icejohn said on March 6, 2012 at 10:33 a.m.

fun fact: on of the reasons why Keiji Inafune left capcom was because of capcoms shady business tactics.

#63
maxs2d2ace said on March 6, 2012 at 10:37 a.m.

come on guys, capcom still the man right!? *raises hand* who got my back? anybody? (>__>)...(<___<)

#64
Archive1925 said on March 6, 2012 at 10:38 a.m.

Guys, posting your frustrations here isn't going to do any good. You need to flood Ono's twitter, Sven, and Capcom-Unity with your complaints.

#65
Squid_Biskets said on March 6, 2012 at 10:40 a.m.

Guys, go to this post and leave a comment.

http://www.capcom-unity.com/ask_capco...

#66
Zain23 said on March 6, 2012 at 10:42 a.m.

YEEESSS!!! This is DELICIOUS!!!
too bad for the xbox users but screw em, we ps3 users miss out so much on games like cod that i also play so i guess you can call this karma. but thats not really the reason i think this is so delicious , i know how much gootecks and mike ross were waiting to take their tag team online on xbox. but now that they cant, i think they will rather use psn then not do that show at all. which means i have a shot at playing them :D yeahhh booooi!!

#67
Drd said on March 6, 2012 at 10:44 a.m.

Why do Capcom hate us so much? Why?!?

#68
Celticlord said on March 6, 2012 at 10:44 a.m.

You do know you can get refunds for being miss-sold the game ? people got refunds from Ubisoft when they lied about the drm on From Dust

#69
Super_Shoto_Fighter_4 said on March 6, 2012 at 10:45 a.m.

Pretty much sums up Xblox and PS3 players right now.
http://i.imgur.com/ZJQ0N.gif

#70
BLAFY said on March 6, 2012 at 10:46 a.m.

@64
*raises hand*

Um um um ...where is the bathroom?

#71
GVGguy said on March 6, 2012 at 10:49 a.m.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH! As if Xbox fanboys weren't butthurt enough with this game... Allthough I wonder how that'll go for the PC version?

#72
Model_M said on March 6, 2012 at 10:49 a.m.

Just goes to show, the PS3 version is the definitive version of SFxT.

#73
maxs2d2ace said on March 6, 2012 at 10:51 a.m.

#71
=D.....>__> down the corner and to the left..

#74
Doopliss said on March 6, 2012 at 10:51 a.m.

@37: There's 38 characters in the 360 version, 43 in the PS3 version.

#75
Halimbo said on March 6, 2012 at 10:52 a.m.

Capcom have chosen to give this news out on the day of release only...why?

#76
Ett said on March 6, 2012 at 10:52 a.m.

CALL kotaku!!

Serious everyone send this post in to all the tip box of the those scandal loving game websites.
maybe that will force Capcom too come up with a real answer!

#77
Sasuga said on March 6, 2012 at 10:53 a.m.

Dammit now i have to get a ps3 version with the dumbass exclusive characters....

#78
jaib83 said on March 6, 2012 at 10:53 a.m.

I will buy Ninja Gaiden 3 instead, and i will wait for Super Street fighter x Tekken for 40 bucks "LOOOOL" in october/november when all the characters are released, thanks CASHCOM!!

#79
HyperFlow said on March 6, 2012 at 10:55 a.m.

This has pissed me off way more than any of those PS3 exclusive characters. I dont even want them. I want this mode tho for local co-op. Ridiculous. It can definitely be done.

#80
PropLeXed said on March 6, 2012 at 10:55 a.m.

What an epic fail.

#81
Grevier said on March 6, 2012 at 10:56 a.m.

Good to know, Im European and this game will come out the 9, it's gonna be PS this time then...

#82
Jay5669 said on March 6, 2012 at 10:57 a.m.

This may be a stupid question but what if you have 1 xbox and 2 gold accounts on that one xbox, Can you play other people online??

#83
TaurusMAGNUS said on March 6, 2012 at 11 a.m.

@#83

That's What I want to know!

#84
Hellzofwarz said on March 6, 2012 at 11:01 a.m.

Gears of war, Cod, Halo, Mortal Kombat and others have the option to use a Guest profile why does this game not support it?

#85
LordProsper said on March 6, 2012 at 11:02 a.m.

Seriously, I don't see why anyone would even bother getting this game on the 360 if you had both consoles.

#86
Squid_Biskets said on March 6, 2012 at 11:03 a.m.

@ #83

Nope, the feature is completely missing from the xbox version.

#87
Frost said on March 6, 2012 at 11:03 a.m.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand

I don't really care about this game at all (after the whole "finding DLC on disk" issue, I can wait for the DLC/disk update) but I really feel sorry for all the 360 users.

It sucks that such a cool feature (one reason I wanted to get the game) is completely useless to you all coz of whoever's fault it was.

#88
omegax9000 said on March 6, 2012 at 11:06 a.m.

Capcom smokes sonys c0ck! Mk9 prime exp!

#89
gtfopanda said on March 6, 2012 at 11:07 a.m.

This is preposterous, I won't believe it cannot be fixed.

#90
thisguyrighthere said on March 6, 2012 at 11:07 a.m.

i bet if it were a problem about not being able to buy DLC capcom would put every effort into fixing it. instead they give us some bulls--t reason like having the already completed, Post-dated, in-disk DLC

"uh its in the disk because its in the disk"

"online coop doesnt work because it doesnt work"

#91
Celticlord said on March 6, 2012 at 11:08 a.m.

I will get it a month after the PC release just to be safe.

#92
Jay5669 said on March 6, 2012 at 11:09 a.m.

How can this be, You wait till the day of the release and then you drop a bomb like this, bad enough that the 12 dlc characters where found on the disk but now you cant even tag up with a friend beside you, which is what the game is all about, tagging up and beating some ass, I am sick to my stomuch, SORT THIS THE F**K OUT CAPCOM, If Mortal Kombat can do tag online then there is no f**king reason why Street fighter x tekken cant, BULLS**T

#93
thisguyrighthere said on March 6, 2012 at 11:10 a.m.

oh and i cant wait for sven to call you bitches for complaining about them refusing to find a solution for this

#94
maxs2d2ace said on March 6, 2012 at 11:17 a.m.

I wonder what gootecks and mike ross think? since they were hyping that up for excellent adventures.
lol since they don't like psn, no co-op excellent adventures.

#95
kevinbeezy said on March 6, 2012 at 11:24 a.m.

oh cool, thanks for letting me know AFTER i got it for xbox already. Sighh, I knew I shoulda stuck with ps3

#96
StealthyNinja said on March 6, 2012 at 11:26 a.m.

I wasn't even interested in the PS3 exclusive characters....but this? I was so looking forward to kicking some ass with my friends when they come over but nope. DENIED. I could always get the PS3 version, but it's the principle! This was promised to be in the Xbox release, it was even in the instruction manual. You'd think that Capcom's mouth and ass are switched because all they ever seem to say is bulls***. This can be done, it works on plenty of other games, but Capcom are either too lazy, or were too busy doing god knows what to do this. Way to go Capcom. You fail.

#97
CartooN said on March 6, 2012 at 11:29 a.m.

Dont understand how they cant do it when plenty of other xbox live games can.

Your friend signs in on a guest account or using something in game. Then when your online you show up as "Username" and "Username(1)". Why cant this be done for SFxT?

#98
Paine said on March 6, 2012 at 11:31 a.m.

I am extremely glad that most people here aren't frantically dropping to their knees and defending this. There tends to be a lot of empty voices on Capcom's decisions concerning ridiculous business practices, but this is apparently not one of them. Anyone willing to make an online petition? It is absurd that they would falsely advertise their game like this.

#99
Squid_Biskets said on March 6, 2012 at 11:32 a.m.

Could everyone with a Capcom-Unity account leave a message in this thread, hopefully if we make enough noise Capcom will add 2 player co op online to the xbox360 version of the game. It was advertised AND is in the 360 instruction manual.

http://www.capcom-unity.com/ask_capco...

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