Capcom explains why Street Fighter X Tekken's 12 DLC characters were on disc, fighters available in the fall

Soon AFTER? Why not just release them over the next few months? They are already complete and leaked, might as well start putting them out there now.

here it comes

"exciting DLC"

/headshot

inb4excuses

So they're charging us twice to play everything on the disk?

In before the, "but it's not DLC, if it is already done on the disc."

*Waits for tears*

Frauds all of them!

It's fine that they want to have DLC, and release it at a later date, but they should be upfront about why they are doing it that way: It costs them money to send updates and content over PSN/XBOX and including them on disc would be cheaper, thus saving them some money.

But they are still trying to sell us what already exists and is there. They aren't giving us the full roster unless we buy it. If you play seriously you have NO choice but buying these characters or else you are at a major disadvantage. It's not like there are just two characters like Shuma or Jill were for marvel meaning it wasn't a big deal on not buying them.

Capcom pretty much dodging the issue.

*Waits for Christian Svensson to call everyone a bitch*

I'm also really curious about why they're calling it "Downloadable Content" when it's already on the disk. There is no download, it's already there.

if anyone here tried to play MK9 online, you would welcome on-disc DLC.

also have fun waiting for your "ultimate SFxT" or whatever.

Perfect press release. And I do wanna repost my thoughts on the matter for all the eventual legal-illiterate rants in this comment section:

"If only you people were so passionate about bank/credit card/gas companies and what they pull every year.

Some of you are talking about suing Capcom. Pathetic. I bet you never raised an eyebrow at the lives the aforementioned companies destroyed in the last ten years, or how they rip you off even without you knowing it. Even now, as we speak."

Man..Capcom has some of the greatest creative minds in the business. It is really too bad that this creativity has to be overshadowed by their business practices.

@12: What would be the appropriate term for this?

... So we need to wait... TILL THE FALL... to play as these 12 characters?

... that's ******* stupid

I know why you put the DLC on the disc, Capcom. I'm not stupid.

What I wanna know is why not just have them in the game from the get go and worry about DLC characters 6 months later?

@DestinyZX1

If you're going to use DLC then call it disk-locked content. A better term would be "Screwing over the consumer content" though.

There goes the free DLC for anyone who were dumb enough to think that would be the case. "nooes theyz natz gon' charge us knowing da Viter version wats gon' b free."

Everything you need to enjoy this game for months (and years) to come will be accessed by the retail disc available this week

that kinda leaves me numb. does that mean ALL FUTURE DLC is on the disk, meaning there is nothing else to come?

@19

Answer = $$$

Makes sense but waiting until fall is a bit lame.

@14 teenagers always rant. they don't know how the rest of the world rips them off. all they see is VIDYAGAYMES and how they have to spend their hard earned pocket money(earned by existing) for that.

their perspective will change too when they grow up.

So Megaman and Pacman are coming to xbox? Because this logic makes no sense if they are on the xbox version but can't be used. Plus you know people will just hack them when they come out and get the dlc free.

So basically we are going to be paying for PERMISSION to play with what already exist. FAN tastic.

at least give us day 1 dlc, i dont wanna have to wait until september/october to play as guy. damn.

Typical scumbag marketing. First they put development time to make these "DLC" characters before SFxT is even out. Meaning if the team that worked on SFxT also worked on the DLC that SFxT could of been out earlier. What ever happened to releasing the core game, then using the profits you got from selling the core game to pay developers and animators to CREATE THE DLC?!

The 12 already completed DLC characters will be unlocked AFTER the vita version is out, meaning all this is just a ploy to get you to buy the vita version that no one would buy normally. Thanks Capcom.

@19 You're not stupid, but apparently many others are since they jumped on the bandwagon of rage.

Regarding the second issue, I wouldn't mind knowing myself.

@13

This. A thousand times this.

damn....dlc makes me mad. look at Lili- she's not amused. http://i.imgur.com/LPnYR.png

Capcom, stop calling this bull crap, DLC! It's called PULC, Paid UnLockable Content! Damn Shame!

guys lets just boycot capcom. this is just too much

Woah woah WOAH!!! So let me get this straight, Vita version includes all 12 at launch, then they come out as DLC for consoles, they BETTER givem out for free cause it is disrespectful that just when the Vita's getem for free, we gotta pay?? I call BS!!!

QQ QQ QQ QQ. you know why they dont? cause you people are NEVER happy no matter what.

Some of you boggle my mind. There is already more then enough characters to justify the $60 price point. Would you rather have 12 new characters in the fall or none at all? Second, you really do take advantage of the fact that capcom answers your concerns in the first place. They really don't have to and the game would still sell. -_-

not a word about balancing or tweaking.

"By including these 12 characters on the disc, the idea was to ensure easy compatability between players who do and do not choose to download the characters when they arrive as DLC."

Or you can give us them from the get go considering this is a full prize game you know Cashcom. That would make it very smooth.

@Soul

I think 30 characters is enough to justify the $60. Nah, 20 characters. Nope, just 10.

What's the minimum number you would accept for $60?

This is nothing new at all. Have you seen COD? They have map packs already being made on the disc, only you have to wait for it to be released in the future. Think of it as a DLC unlock key, you unlock it by purchasing the content.

Ok so 38 characters in a Dream Tag Fighter between SF and Tekken is enough? Is that really " The Largest Capcom fighter roster to date " - Seth Killian. If so then you better add 8 more on top of that 12.

you people are so stupid. complaning about the prices...they brought back some amazing characters. Tons of gameplay modes. not only that its oh I dunno...only one of the MOST antcipated clashes of ALL time. just STFU you know your gonna buy and play it anyways quit trying to sound like it really bothers you on forums JFC

I really thought they would release 2 per month, I don't want to wait half a year for characters we already know are there :(

@30

They're not releasing them right away because they want you to buy the Vita version. Look at it this way, they can't release the Vita version and the PS3/XBOX360 version at the same time, because no one would buy the vita version. So what do they do, they release SFxT for consoles first. Then they wait a couple months (who knows the vita version is probably already done knowing capcom) then they release the Vita version with all the extra characters so you buy the Vita version if you want to play them earlier. Then after they've sucked every penny out of your pocket they finally release the characters that were already completed months before on your disc for more $$$

Lmfao. What a joke.

My biggest problem with this DLC crap is the tournaments. Why hasn't anyone mentioned that fact that for a tournament all the characters will have to be unlocked on every console. Sure you can load them on to 3 consoles or whatever with one account, but tournaments are so big nowadays... Tournament organizers are going to be forced to buy multiple couples of every character or just not have them in the tournament. What if a tournament doesn't load the characters, players who use them will be screwed, and if they do load all the characters, the organizers are going to have to dish out... I don't even wanna think how much money will be spent among all the tournaments just so players can use the characters.

According to Capcom DLC doesnt mean 'Downloadable Content' but DISK LOCKED CONTENT!!!

Day 1 pirate. Don't tell me pirates are ruining gaming, publishers like crapcom crapping all over their fans are.

I like how the explanation is pretty much what everyone defending them said it would be, and how it fixes NOTHING.

@Algorithm, it depends on the game really. BlazBlue started with what, 13 characters? Each character was very unique so those 13 characters justified the price. In SFxT we have a large cast to start with, and though they don't all have characteristics that completely distinguish them from eachother, at the very least the games characters are highly stylized and graphically there normals, specials, and supers are unique enough. I'm thankful that this game is coming out, it really is time to get hype.

Just because this practice has been done to death doesn't mean it's acceptable. And it certainly hasn't been done to this degree. The issues for the characters are minor at best (Elena's cross art inflicting tons of damage is easily fixed). I'm not paying for something a hacker can fix for free.

The funny thing here is that no matter how much hate CAPCOM gets for stunts like these, people would still buy the game anyway, and CAPCOM will continue to push the envelope even further.

Me personally don't care if it's on the disk getting it anyway 60 as it stands with all the features isn't a rip off I think now I ain't getting any gems but characters heck yea I make my own money and I have a choice like everybody else whether you want the extra content or not kof DLC prices for 1 character was way high halo releases mappacks for the price of a complete game And fighting games can give you years of fun I still pop in my old games so if I spend 100 dollars and play the game for 12 years cheaper than going to a bar for 12 years

Posted by Stitchking on March 5, 2012 at 8:03 a.m. #464

If they want to get mad that's fine. But, make sure you know what's going on before you do. Most of the time you need to install the game to your hard drive{for PS3, I'm not sure for fighting games on XBOX360). And that alone takes at least 1GB of space. And I'm sure some people have those 4BG XBOXs that came out about a year ago. And taking into account that each of the Mortal Kombat characters took about 70MB each then multiply that by 12 and have close to a GB of space. Also, cost money to have DLC kept on the servers and I'm going to assume the larger the DLC the higher the cost. So its more cost effective to put the bulk of the DLC on disc if possible.

@10
Wow. right over your head. You don't have to buy them!

This is a lot like Ultimate. Release 1 game, Evo happens, release 12 new characters, maybe even a balance patch.

Whatever the case, excited a fkkk. Looking forward to Evo 2013 when the entire cast is playable.

All DLC means is additional content to add to the core game. Alot of companies have on disc DLC. Its just not meant to be part of the main package is all which is why its locked.

I could've sworn this was explained already when Marvel came out. How quick people forget. Sucks you'll have to pay probably a total of 100 dollars tops for a game for the year.

Its really not alot of money considering everything else people waste money on without even realizing. Everyone would have just been fine if it wasnt on Disk. You'd have to pay for the characters regardless.

Regardless, I'll be buying it. Don't complain just dont buy it. Capcom isn't going to stop doing this regardless

@Soul What is the minimum number of characters you'd pay $60 for in SFxTekken?

Bit of a jipp this is. They are squeezing every penny out of a loyal fanbase.

But I will pay. Their games are great, I can justify spending that little bit more for DLC. I do agree tho, its not like other DLC, you kinda have to buy this if you want to play this game half-seriously.

@Kreative

No, DLC means downloadable content. Downloadable, not extra. The hint is in the name.

A very poor reason, especially since NetherRealm handled this issue much better than Capcom did... people would probably feel less cheated if they released a compatibility pack like NR.

In short: Hello customer, no "SUPER" version, but you must buy the game twice. Have fun with our Beta, you idiot.

I'm not doing this but this person speaks the truth. " Day 1 pirate. Don't tell me pirates are ruining gaming, publishers like crapcom crapping all over their fans are."

Hackers already said a FULL version will be out soon. Wouldn't be surprised if a lot of ppl tool that instead.

@BestAlgorithm
didnt several people answer your questions yesterday? "flung" something, was going in yesterday and you still dont get it. i got it pretty fast but damn dude. stop being so stubborn.

DLC is going to be like $15-20. If they priced the game with access to 60 characters for $80 most people will say hell no due to sticker shock.

You charge regular price then 6 months later give access to more content the initial purchase is spaced far away enough that most people actively playing the game will pay the additional $20. While at the same time re-energizing the game like SF4 to SSF4 to SSF4AE did. These types of games need updates to stay fresh.

Marketing wise it makes sense cause at least half the pissed off ppl here will still buy the game AND pay for the DLC. It doesn't make the tactic suck any less for the consumer though.

oh and new years eve i believe a law was passed that american citizens could be detailed indefinetly without trial and they are trying to pass a law for marshall law maybe people should be protesting that instead of a capcom game that they have the choice to spend there money on to me looks like all these activists are fighting the wrong war here lol jokes

What irks me is that they still haven't announced the pricing for these potential DLC characters/Gems/Alts. On top of that the Vita version will have all 12 characters included at 1 price where we will probably have to dish out $40- $60 for these characters. That's what's bothering me.

DLC content is fine but to have to shell out more money than another console who has it all intact day 1 is really stupid. I don't plan on spending $300 on another gaming console just to play SFXT + new characters are they stupid? Well Apparently not. As much as a fan of the fighting genre this is a slap in the face. Gems will cost you alts will cost you heck pretty soon breathing fresh air will cost you.

@Monkey

I got what he's saying and I explained why it's stupid. What aren't you getting?

Please explain why you want to support corporations rather than consumers.

in other news, here is some Lei / Bryan vs Sakura / JACK-X gameplay:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X11-1O...

@Beast

Regardless of what the acronym means. Its content not necessary for the game to function.

This is a terrible scam. I hope the guy who hacked the discs releases his methods, then they can see how we feel.

@Getdownbrown83

What makes you think people aren't doing both?

You notice they didn't mention Pac-man or Megaman? So they must be timed exclusives to Sony... 360 owners might have to wait a year to get their hands on them. Anyway I feel proud to be one of the early people to bring the scam to the public eye. I just feel bad that I get to play the game with all the fully goodies and you guys will likely have to wait a good 5-6 months. If you're lucky there might be a PC hack soon after it launches.

Anyway now that this is all done I can get back to playing the damn game.... Kazuya is so beastly!

@27 I'm not sure if you've ever read a EULA, but that's exactly it. You own the right to play the content on the disc, but what content that is it up to Capcom. Oddly, this has always been the case, but the extra content would just end up as garbage because there was no way to deliver the finished product post-release as there is now. The funny thing is, by doing this they've pretty much ensured that there won't be another disc released (yay!), but by leaving enough of the data on disc (really, ALL of it is obviously not done) people feel alienated (boo!) and they can't win because on-disc dlc is the core game and people won't stand for it.

@68 if people are okay with something as "minuscule" as this, chances are they don't care if their govt. f*cks them either. As above, so below.

@Kreative

How many characters are necessary for the game to function? I'm sure the game will play perfectly fine with just Ryu, Ken, Kazuya, and Nina.

Console owners are getting charged extra for what the Vita owners are getting free. There's got to be an AE style disc for the patient folks like me.

the good news is: no GORILLA BRYAN and EMO LARS until fall.

Why is everyone going ape-sh!t like this is the first time it's happened. All of the SFIV and SSFIV costumes were already on the disc. And Capcom isn't even the first company to do it. God of War III, King of Fighters, and Soulcalibur V did too but no one is griping about it. Well at least not that I know of. What I'm getting at is that don't treat this situation like Capcom is the only company doing the on-disc dlc because just about every company every company that puts out dlc has done it.

@#14

Which silly mug is thinking about sueing? He's needs a slap lol

ROFL. It's like some of you are giving birth the minute you find out something isn't free ha

Also, some games have an 'online pass', an activation system for games featuring online multiplayer. If you bought the game secondhand and the code was already used by someone else, then you would to have to purchase an online pass if you want to play online. Think of this as a tax. Games like MK9, FIFA, Battlefield etc has an online pass and if Capcom really was that greedy, then they could've easily charged you to play online if you buy used Capcom games.

@Bstolemychicken

You get it. There are a lot of stupid people here that don't. :/

You could just wait for the PC release. Hacking that would be pretty simple. So many PC players will be playing these characters well in advance.

@ 81

They're alternate costumes. It's still wrong, but many people don't give a crap about them.

These, on the other hand, are practically completed characters. Unlike costumes, the characters you pick change the outcome of a match entirely.

The game as it is now already justifies its full price. The DLC characters do not all of a sudden make the current game incomplete. If there was no DLC characters everyone would be fine with how the game is. Your only bitching because you think your entitled to them.

Capcom never gave you the 12 characters and then took them away. your not owed anything and you dont own the rights to their DLC content just because they choose to save everyone the trouble of downloading a SFIV AE sized patch by sticking it on the disk.

Stay free

@Fightinfan69 - They would be crazy to charge $40 or more for the DLC. They can get away with a disc release update for $40. That is way too high for your average DLC especially considering that the content is already on the disc. DLC content will not go above $25.

Wonder what the highest priced DLC add-on is on PSN/Xbox live

The game is so ass its like Capcom knows ppl will get bored of it quick so they hid a few characters to revive it months down.

Gotta give people an incentive to buy the psp version but yeah, it's about money but it's nothing new by now right?

http://images.encyclopediadramatica.c...

you know what your getting for your money you know what the game comes with its price tag nuff said does it suck yeas does every company in the world do it yea may not be called dlc but its the way the world works these days all these video game companies do this now so is this really a secret you have a choice
@74 if they are good cuz thats the real problem cuz you can choose to buy this stuff at least
or you can get arrested get thrown in a jail no one knows where it is no bail no court probally get beaten and you got no dam choice about that

I don't care bout the on-disc vs off disc debate, the reasons they've explained are true, its not illegal blah blah

The thing which raises my eyebrow

"I can at least say it'll be a great value"

Yeah great value for their wallets. Im guessing they will think we're thankful for the extortion price they and we should be happy for the price but mark my words and remember them, you'll be wondering what the benefit of DLC in comparison to a super, hyper or ultimate version as it will probably equal the same overall, maybe even more if capcoms fair and valued dlc pricing history is to be considered.

This "we've listened to you we're making it all dlc.....but it will cost you the same as the re-editions" is just a clever marketing con which cashcon has thought up to reap more of our money

The only thing that pisses me off is that we can't buy the characters until AFTER the stupid Vita version is out.

Seriously, f*** Sony.

Everyone, go into to your downloads list or whatever and check how many add-on files are listed that are only a few kbs or mbs in size. That's how many games you've played that's done this already.

I'm a legit guy who buys DLC, but this whole failed attempt at "making the game exciting" and prolonging it's lifespan by incuring additional charges to create a complete game experience, several months down the road, with content that already exists... well, it just makes me wanna hack the game to full accessablity, asap.

The desire to hack the game is partly due to entitlement and sense of ownership of the disc purchased. But mostly I desire to do so out of plain ole spite.

This is one of the stupidest things I've seen Capcom do.

@74 so i take it your one of the people fighting the real issues then too along with the war on dlc

Sounds like capcoms just being lazy. Theyll use the 12 characters on disc as the future DLC so they can take it easy and sit back and not do there job knowing that they dont have to work on any DLC for a while.

Nope, just greedy.

Capcom why are you making us pay extra for these characters that are already on the disc?

To make it easier on us when you buy them duh.