Niitsuma likely responds to TAC infinite reports for Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3, adjusting mechanics

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, Niitsuma. Leave them in.
Seriously man, don't patch it out. I don't want to "wait patiently", just leave it in.

And I said is earlier in the other article, that he would patch it out, if people got too vocal.

Hopefully this means Marvel isn't going to continue to be neglected by Capcom like it seems.

i was looking forward to seeing how exactly it affected the game before having an opinion on whether it should be patched or not. oh well i should still learn one or two of them just to piss my friend off :)

F*cking liar. http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2012/ju...

Why patch it? Just leave the game alone and move on. A lot of people actually prefer the infinite's in the game.

@4 There is a difference between balancing and patching a glitch.

@4 im not too sure thats a lie. it does say "probably not". even the article title says "its not like Ono's blatant lies about Sf4 in the past. "UNLIKELY to be balanced".

Well, it was fun while it lasted.

lmao when it came to fixing the costume glitch where people could access the "DLC" costumes through a glitch, Niitsuma said:

"Regarding the DLC costume glitch, I have contacted a supervisor and we will initiate a quick fix"

But regarding a potentially game breaking glitch (which some may dispute granted), his response is:

"Please wait patiently"

DAT CA$HCOM PRIORITIES FOLKS!

@4 fixing a GLITCH is different than patching the game

Darn.

Awww why these cry babies are bitching? Lol learn new big dmg combos and stop going for cheap stuff you want infinites go play MvC2

Patching a glitch is exactly the same as patching any other aspect of the game: you're taking away specific character advantages to "balance" out the field.

This wasn't gamebreaking by any means, because the infinites can be dropped easier than regular combos that do more damage. With the scaling and lack of X Factor, you have to keep it going for 30 seconds to a minute to kill someone...once. And what penalty do they suffer for eating it? 5 bars for the next incoming character who has to avoid a 50/50 mixup regardless. That's without even mentioning that the TAC itself is a gamble.

@ItzBoshyTime

Technically he did say wait patiently, and did not give us a specific time frame. Maybe he might make us wait patiently into the next year! /chuckle

@Gokai - While I do sympathize with you given we share some similar opinions on the game, it's not gonna happen. They said a while back that UMvC3 is done -- no more DLC, no balance changes, or whatever. The only thing conceivable, are patches to remove infinites if some were found, and it seems over half the cast just recently has been found to have one (by TAC, mind you).

People are content with the game as it is.

I like how when people cried about Wesker, everyone complained about how long it was taking for the patch. Now that there's cheap infinites for several characters in the game, everyone wants them in so the game can devolve into broken mvc2 bs, and when nitsuma mentions that he's merely looking into it, the crybabies come out in full force, even being salty to the point where they call the man a liar because he actually wants to FIX something in the game! WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU BASTARDS???!! YOU'LL CRY ABOUT ANYTHING!!!

aww man, cry babies got their wish, I hope atleast some TAC glitches remain

before this announcement everyone sounded like what you guys call "crybabies". the people cried about keeping the infinites but dont make it seem like you guys didnt cry to get the infinites banned and patched. i just think all the "crybaby" call outs are quite ridiculous tbh.

"please wait patiently......while i f'ing churn this new update out before EVO TO SAVE eSPORTS FROM INFINITES!!!"

also....i wonder if people are only okay with the infinites because it's Mahvel. like peeps were hating on SFxT infinites, but was that because they were easy or was it that they just wanted to hate on SFxT?

i only wish infinites were banned because 1. it'll get pretty boring if everyone ends up just using them, and 2. the non-FGC viewers (as well as some FGC fans) will not like what they see. Mahvel is exciting as is, with the interesting combos, resets and tricks, but i would think infinites make the game SEEM scrubbier than it really is (obviously some of these are not easy to perform for longer reps).

Tears all over the comments section. Just goes to show you that even in the face of GOOD news, people will find something to cry about.

@17

LOL we really are insatiable. Can't even argue with that. It is impossible for these developers to know what we want, because WE don't even know what the fvck we want! It's still easy enough to break people off without the infinites. Big deal. Infinites would only devolve the game and stunt creativity. Learn how to play the game the way it was intended to be played. How can you tell who's truly the best if you just want to infinite all match? Would you actually feel like someone is better than you just because you pressed down S too late and you didn't reverse the TAC for some reason? Would you actually feel like the better man for winning that way?

High Level Marvel=Easy way out or bust.

To regular players, it's pretty tough. If you're Top 8 mainstay, or in that range, you should be ashamed for dumbing your game down to something so simple.

This sucks.

SFXT has Cats, Pac and Kaz infinite: Broken trash game!
Marvel has multiple characters with infinites: Keep them in!

okay

@ Gammabolt Good post.

Please add the lightning from Primal Rage to fix this.

I love all these "experts" of Marvel now. Where was all this "outrage" or MvC2, right most of you never played it? Even top players said that was part allure about how broken the game is.

"Please wait patiently," he says while we have to sit here and listen to insistent whining from community that 1 said the game was broken because of Sentinal, Then because of Tron and Hagger assists, then Wolverine's dive kick, then because of Phoniex, then because of Wesker, Only reason it wasn't Vergil's turn this time was because this came up.

This is not a balance change, this is a potential fixing of an issue. If you think a top 8 player will hedge 15k pot on an infinite then you are either completely insane, a moron or both. You know who bitches about this? Online players, where this is even LESS likely due to horrible lag. Get dunked trolls.

@13 If it's so bad and so much better to do everything but the infinite's then what is the big problem with patching them out?

Marlin Pie will not likely drop these combos. Just because it can be hard to do doesn't mean it isn't an issue.

Stop coming up with BS excuses. Phoenix teams could choose to abuse this. Everyone keeps forgetting that BOTH players gain five meters.
It will be too good if everyone gets these combos down.

@23 TRUE.....Noel Brown was one of that bitches that said that he was gonna practice the infinites and because of the infinite he was gonna use Frank again....i hope they patch them soon

Mr. Cannon said it best, "Stop dropping combos, then come talk to me about infinites.

ITS A GLITCH!! take it out

@23
Truer words were never spoken.

LOL at people wanting these left in. Preposterous.

Some infinites are 30 minutes of practice and you pretty much wind up with a 67 percent probability of getting a ToD and 5 meters (and max level Frank if applicable) in one combo. One.

These are a broken mechanic that could really crap up this game. It is odd to me that anyone would want these left in.

@26

pay attention

Didn't mind the infinites too much they have the potential to make alot of unplayable characters playable since I'm sure with a little work the whole cast (including the roll tiers) will have one. It's just the fact that they make the game as exciting to watch as SFxT, (dance around till you get a clean hit TAC to mvc2 esque iromnman loop until dead, dead character mixup into TAC, wash rinse repeat) I know that's basically Zero's game but that will suck to watch if that's all this game becomes.

Plus this makes Phoenix way more viable than she deserves to be, and her vanilla version seems fair now after all of capcom's work to make the bitch not be game braking like she was. Most the one touch kills require tons of meter, this is basically guarantees the soulless ginger rising off any random clean hit at half screen or any where for coast to coast combo characters.

"Oh you have to guess right on the TAC to do the infinite"

Yeah good luck with that. Ever play a good Seth who puts you in a true 50/50; these combo's are accessible from all three TACs it's not possible to consistently guess right when your opponent doesn't care which one of the three to go for.

This is good, and we should hope it gets patched before EVO. The game's still young with plenty of 1TK's and seemingly broken tech to be discovered that will take far more skill to pull and be way more entertaining watch than these infinites. Coming from MVC2 my original mindset was hell this is good, but this isn't MVC2 where every character in the game has an infinite but since they're free to Sent/Cap they're un-selectable. This game has way more potential, lets keep the ginger at bay just for a little while longer.

If he's not going to bother adjusting other aspects of the game, then he might as well not address this issue either. The fact that UMvC3 had no further DLC or patching plans was pretty silly to begin with.

Why people always complain about Zero? Vergil is a character that has only one combo at least you can he creative with Zero

To build 5 meters from this is really the big problem here. It makes already high tier meter sponges like Phoenix, Morrigan, and Vergil just insane.

He had better be talking about Hsien Ko and Arthur, they are cheap as h*ll.

Ah, awesome, bout time it got fixed, infinites break games. And while he is at it, fix the damn zeros loops, that thing is broken as hell...

i don't really see the point of taking the infinites out. this game is already, for the most part, one touch kill, so i don't think we'll see players going for the harder to execute inifites rather than their bnb combo that will kill anyways. that being said, infinites should be there for swag purposes.

#39

I don't play him and I don't complain about him. I think he's an awesome character with cool moves. Somebody has to be the best.

Zero just has so many tools. He has little to no limitations, one of the best incoming mixups in the game, an X-factor-cancel frame kill, and has, hands down, the best neutral game in Marvel. Vergil is amazing, and I use him now. But he has enough limitations to keep him from getting to Zero's level.

Lol at everyone salty about these infinites being removed.as many have said before,leaving them in will destroy all creativity this game is capable of,as well as turning new players off from this game.its a real hype killer imo.if you all want your precious infinites so damn badly,go play mvc2!the fact that people complain about this stuff in other games but they wanna leave it in umvc3 is completly idiotic./End rant.

Yall overreact about infinites. It would NOT destroy creativity. Half of the time people would drop them, and people would probably rarely try them unless they're using a Phoenix team and are consistent at infinites. If they were left in it would just add excitement when someone actually hits one, which would be rare. But instead everybody had to report them because they suck at the game and don't understand how unimportant the infinites are.

Keep in mind that there is the potential against high health characters to just keep resetting this as damage scales down to next to nothing. Burn nearly all the time off the clock, then bring in a character with a spammable super that can tick whatever remains on the clock off, eg: Morrigan.

So you could see Chris G TAC into Doom, Doom infinites for however long it takes to kill someone with high health like Nemesis or Thor, maybe it takes all match and Chris G runs out the entire clock with one combo. OR the next scenario is it does kill. Now comes Morrigan with 5 bars. He starts spamming Astral, running the soulfist obstacle course, which nets another 2-3 meters even if nothing hits, that he can additionally spam.

So Doom infinite, 7-8 loops of astral. Time ticks to 0. That's this match, and it could potentially be a lot of matches.

I dont care if there in or not,iam decent enough at the game that i can figure something out defense or offense for them,but if you really want this game to have a longer life span Niitsuma ADD MORE CHARACTERS!!! Let the roster finally surpass MvC2.:Venom & Cap Commando THANK YOU!

In or Out i dont care. Use it while it lasts like magneto alternate. It's here to stay for evo so it'll be interesting to see if anyone is dumb enough to go for it all the time.

#48

Because you need to be decent at this game to defend against random TACs? It's a coin flip. You either guess right or you don't and if you don't you hope they mess up the infinite (that's if you're playing someone who can do it, but TACs are annoying to begin with).

I'm sure Magneto and Doom will probably keep their infinites after the "fix".

#48

You must know something the best in the world don't. Anyone can get hit by this. And these TACs will turn hits into one-touch kills that normally wouldn't have been one touch kills. Then the person you're playing infinites you, brings in Vergil who now has 5 meters to spam swords and I don't care how decent you are, one of those 5 meters will net that Vergil a hit, now you're back in a TAC.

My best wish is that EVO bans this or that the players don't attempt it. EVO is looking so hype right now and I'd hate to see this happening every other match, even if it's not successful, the mere attempts will be buzzkills as well.

Dont you dare patch that s***! Get your f***kin hands off our game Niitsuma!

Infinites may, pleasantly, go die in a fire.

Good to see someone is looking into the matter. I was considering "retirement."

@53 Wow.

Fix Zero. He's more broken than these infinites. So far, only Doom and Magneto can do it in different directions; everyone needs down. It's so easy to defend. AND it's hard to do (same excuse of lightning loops).

@ tequilasauer You're dead on with your analysis. If this stays in Vergil (Swords) , Morrigan + Doom (Astral Vision) and Phoenix (DPR) will be S tier far beyond everyone else. Those three (Dooms just there for missiles ) with 5 bars become game breakers. And you thought you saw a lot of Sf X Tekken timeouts? Morrigan will bring the pain after half the time or more has gone by with the length the infinite would take to complete.

Frank won't be far behind either

@ keyzerjose I agree some people dont think this is too bad but you let players really sit down and think about this and how to really exploit it.

@53 Umm thats Niitsuma's game, not yours my friend. If he says no infinites, then there is no infinites.

I don't have a problem with it but im also not on either side of the argument, I just hope he adds more content on the way but I won't hold my breath.

Since they're probably going to patch it anyway, they might as well do the ff.

-remove X-Factor
-add guard breaks
-add double snaps
-add invincibility to all assists
-give Iron Man his old infinite back

LOL he just gave you gold. start laughing now

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeesss. Patch iiiiiiittt!

"Infinites could make lower tier characters viable."

Right. Remember that one tourney where Chun-Li destroyed everyone with the TAC infinites she's had since vanilla? Me neither. The TAC infinite won't changes the tier lists as much as some of you guys expect because to enable decent use of it, you have to actually use that character on point.

@62

I hope this is a joke.

Will be patched in UMVC3X