Cross Counter s8e2 - Cross Counter Cross Cross Tekken?

Mike Ross naked

Since this is about Cross Assault, I guess I can go ahead and leave this here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGxZoe...

Flash metroid on blast.

lol funny show as always. So if I watched it right, gems gives more depth. So with time, post release of the game, the DLC gems will add even more depth to the game!

So the more money you have, the more depth the game you will experience! The more gems, the more options, the more depth of the game you will experience ..essentially the more advantage. Thanks Gootecks and Mike Ross for clarifying it for everyone.

Now I question myself, is this a fighting game or one of those role playing games online where you buy items to keep ahead of everyone?

If it's not called 'Totally Outrageous Adventures of Gemtecks and Mike "Gems" Ross" I'll be very disappointed.

I hope these guys are collecting a check from Capcom. I'd hate to think they're shilling for free.

Multiple people saying gems are fine=capcom must be paying them

okay

Did anyone else get disappointed when at 8:50 it said M. Bison? Only to realize it was boxer?

@8
so when gems come out and gootecks and mike say they like it, theyre automatically sell outs right? then you will never support theyre videos or laugh with them because of your conspiracy theory?

dumbasses did it to maximillian, why not do the same for cross counter?

Zangief isn't supposed to be fast. That is the point. Not even Gooteks or Mike Ross can sell this idea of Gems to me.

This game will definitely let they're show run smoother and be funnier because of the 2 on 2 tag team. No more passing the stick after the other is done, it'll be interesting to watch their team chemistry get better.

Thats why I don't get all the hate people are throwing at this game. So many different mechanics and depth in this game it's ridiculous. To those that say they're gonna skip this game, I'm sure you'll change your mind after you see everyone else enjoying the game so much.

Capcom is so lucky to have these guys. I don't think the American fighting community would be nearly as big or as energized without them.

i LMAO at 14.00 couldnt put it better myself. yalls should just pro-order the game from newegg and get 25% off while you can if you dont care too much for the per-order gems infact you should per-order from their cause you save 15$. which you could buy all 3 packs when they come out(if their 5 bucks each that is).

I really think these guys are missing the point. Reasonable people will have NO problem with the GEMS.

They are a game mechanic like any other. Groove, Focus, Parry .... Whatever!

There are two points that need to be made, and they've misses the boar on both of them.

1) Paying for attributes is fundamentally WRONG and helps to set a NEW (terrible) standard for DLC in games! Cosmetic = Win..... Core Gameplay = Really Bad!

2) Fine, the support Gems are for beginners. But button mapped combos, Auto block and Auto Tech are just taking a step too far. On top of that they've offered no option to filter out opponents using Tool assisted combos. Add a good tutorial and teach the how to Fish, not just how to eat Fish! Because those Training wheels are never coming off.

I can't believe that as innovative as Mike and Gootecks have been in our community they can't see that some concers are reasonable. Based on their impressions I'd say they think anyone with concerns about the game must be Whiney Nerds? Weird.

I think these dudes are simply blinded by stardom. They used to be regular Joes. Now Capcom invites them to Special Screenings of the game on a show about the game. Wtf do you think they're going to say?! No doubt they love it.

Mike Ross said it was "The Best SF game he'd EVER played" 6 months ago! Nothing can shake these guys opinions.

I'm buying the game. I have some level of confidence it'll be good. But to act like our concerns aren't valid, or we're Nerdy if we care? Mike and Goo lost some respect points on this one IMO.

Peace.

Yeah thanks for this vid I was desperate to hear what a couple of Capcom yes men thought of Street Fighter X Tekken

Sorry for missing a few letters I'm my typing. I'm on a phone lol. That was "Boat" not "Boar" lol.

#11

You're pointing at the wrong guy, buddy

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Hey, its time to just ignore capcom and let them do what they do. if you dont like the game then dont buy it, stick with SSF4AE which will be around for years to come. Yes Gem gives annoying advantage and can be ridiculous but I dont understand the gem idea, it will have been better to have the player customize defence, attack, speed and agility pre match instead of Gem bull crap, but capcom is making their choice and as long as we are not forced to buy the game then we should just watch them

good stuff....good stuff
i am most excited for this, skullgirls, and vf5fs... man 2012 is gonna be beast for me and these games.... im not 100% for the gems, but i do like the gameplay

I agree with mike and gootecks the gem system was never something that was OP it just changes stats around and its like what ono said about my ryu is different from your ryu which is good

Some of you guys are too funny. So there's an issue to paying for gems because your paying extra to having an advantage right? Yet you very same people are fine with re-releases that you have to pay extra money to even play online! At least those people who don't pay can still have fun. Some times people can't think straight.
And things like auto combos require meter so It's not a big deal.

maybe they actually like the system and no one said they were getting paid by capcom to say so.

rumors will be rumors and nothing more

If someone doesn't have the same opinion as you about this game they're secretly getting paid under the table by Capcom right?

I am Renic. Allow me to wave my arms around wildly during every word!

#16

You DO realize that those button mapped combos cost meter to perform, right?

I've said it before: If you're fighting someone that needs a button to perform a basic 3-hit to launcher combo, you have nothing to worry about.

#21

Right. So instead of gems that come with set and timed bonuses, you'd rather it so that someone can set their attack power astronomically high and literally OHKO you throughout the entire match.

People, leave the game design to Capcom. They've been making fighting games since the late 80's. They know what they're doing.

Real Talk.

You guys can call me an idiot now cause we do this s--t for free. Capcom hasn't given us a dime. But I vouch like crazy for this game.

Ask Kensou from planet zero, we talked about it in the car when he picked me up from the airport. This game is amazing.

@28

I guess that's hopeful thinking on your part. I play "simple controls" on iPhone because of the Virtual Pad (I don't like it) and you'd be surprised at the amount of BS I can pull off.

The FG community cannot even accept Tool Assisted Combo Videos, and now they're ready to accept tool assisted gameplay?

Threat or Not, it's just stupid $hit IMO. Guess we disagree.

Btw, I'm not worried about losing to anyone, "Tool assisted" or otherwise. The idea is offensive.

You play COD? I guess I should get Auto Aim because I'm not good at aiming my gun? How Effin lame would that be? Maybe if I had half the Ammo it'd be ok? Nope! Because I'd just figure out a way around it. Like re-supply. Pick up a different gun?

You see? It's mental! Maybe I should just learn to AIM THE DAMN GUN!

@30

Hey Mike, address my post instead of the ones claiming "you get paid".

Try addressing real issues like Paying For Attributes. Or if YOU feel that Button Mapped combos are good for FGs or New players!

BUTTON MAPPED COMBOS! Am I in the Bizzaro world?

yo did ya all see that? when theyre playing sf x tkkn? they just gave the bison spoiler lol

#31

If it COSTS YOU METER to do those button mapped combos, taking away a SIGNIFICANT ASSET to your gameplay, then wouldn't you say that's enough incentive for people to learn how to do them manually?

And tool-assisted combo videos are accepted all the damn time. Hop off of your high horse, take off your tinfoil hat, and calm down.

I haven't seen this much shilling since I won the jackpot at some UK slots.

So Mike and Ryan are cool with the idea of premium DLC gems that affect gameplay and the precedent that's going to set for future fighting games?

@34

Lol, because without Meter I simply cannot play:( Wrong! I could body you in SF with no EX meter or Ultra. I'll put my handicap on 4 for you:)

There is no need for me to "come off of my high horse", I've earned my High Horse seat through hard work and practice!

If you need Auto combos then so be it. In a different mode reserved for people to learn how to play.

Shill it up guys. Hope your conscience is clean when you lay your head down on those capcom branded money pillows.

@36

Right! Your one of the rare ppl that has a brain!

#39

>Claims to have a brains
> spells people "ppl"

lol

And I can add myself to the durr school of grammar and spelling :< dat brains

@40/41

I said he has brains. Not me.

Or

I'm so smart I was in a hurry to go think. So I put "ppl".

@36

Mike and Ryan are cool with a fun game. That's it. I understand the concerns of fans and I'm disappointed in some of Capcom's decisions with the roster, gems, etc. But, at this point, the concerns are grossly exaggerated. Just relax. Pick up the game. Have fun.

#42

Was trying to prove a point, if you're going to make baseless assumptions (or praise some one who does) then I shouldn't have to put effort into my posts either.

I know it's just a "joke" but to try and bash someone just for thinking differently than you...that's just silly, am I wrong?

There is a reason Gief is as slow as he is. Instant S tier for Gief in this game based on the fact alone that you can not only make him faster but increase his defense as well, I'll play him day 1 though so I can be a tier whore and win from the beginning of the game and be able to say things like, "I've been maining him since day 1, err uhh....I mean SF2!!"

#43

The problem is that they spent 10 minutes making fun of people who don't like certain aspects of the gem system without getting to the heart of the matter: premium DLC gems that impact gameplay. If you're going to take the time to defend the gem system as they did, then you shouldn't neglect to mention that aspect of it.

@44

I don't know man, your thinking has got me going in circles. I was praising him for seeing through a line of BS.

What frustrates me is the the "Pro" community seems to think we're all a bunch of mindless nerds that are afraid to lose matches to Gems and Auto Combos!

But there is a deeper issue. Paying for a Gem Boost Jump today could mean paying for Whatever tomorrow!

Shirts and Pants are ok! I have a boat load of money and I'm ready to spend it ALL on COSMETIC DLC! But NOT gameplay DLC!

Maybe Gems are minor. Maybe we set the standard today and the next 'Not so minor' DLC won't happen. But they should at least address the concern instead of missing the point entirely!

Sol good anyway. Game looks fun. That's what counts at the end of the day I guess... I'm pooped on these issues.

This is a solid submission video! Go go Ken Masters!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ob2r...

I <3 GEMS

#37

Funny, I didn't know you could change your handicap in online or tournament matches.

If you're bitching and moaning about people using auto combos that cost meter and do less damage, then it's safe to say that you aren't as good as you think you are.

I swear I saw an interview that said there's going to be no paid gems.

@50

Are we going to meet online or at a tournament? I'll just come by your house and Mad Dog you.

Get real kid.

@aluppoj where u from ?

#52

Troll confirmed. Basis of argument has been rendered null and void.

Proceeding to laugh at and mock target.

Quit complaining. If you don't like it, just don't buy it. Tahdah.

Aluppoj, just ignore NoizyChild..his name explains it all.

@53

Michigan. You?

@54

At least your funny.

hmmm...I'm from Belgium, guess we can't play online huh >.>
You seem pretty confident about your skill so I thought I'd play with you, I might learn some thing or two ;p

OMG I cant stand this.
looks guys i love reading comments on here whether being good or bad, but for the love of GOD plz quit saying"
If you don't like it, just don't buy it" frase. a 2 year old knows that for crying out loud. they know it, you know it, and i know it. its not going to plz anyones judgment ok.*goes back to drinking tea*

children are sometimes more mature than adults =)

@59

Are you on PSN? I'll play you assuming our connection is good. And yes, I'm pretty confident. I'm no pro... But I've played my fare share of Bad A$$es and alway performed well.

Yes, well we can try, hopefully the connection is not that bad. I have a friend from the states and we can play most of the time without too much lag.
My psn is the same as my name =)

@59 btw, I don't know if you judge people based on their PP, but my pp is 3400 in SSF4 and 2300 on AE
I'm not a pro but I've done well in local tournaments =)

@64

I'll send you a friend req ASAP. You sound like you've got some skills also. I'll look forward to these matches.

Who's your main?

Unlike everyone else, I hated this game the moment it was announced and still do. People just don't know what this game is doing to the genre over all, even before the gems.
This game, at this time is just fundamentally wrong. Capcom's killing everything else that isn't Street Fighter or Capcom VS. They even ruin the renaissance for their rivals.

Mark my words.The decline of the genre officially starts with the release of this game. The next Street Fighter and Capcom VS God Knows What immediately after this, will send us back to the dark ages. Those who pay attention to the bigger picture know what I'm talking about.

@65 My main character is Guile, but I often perform better with other characters, guile is kinda lame and I hate to play lame XD
Don't expect too much of me tho, I can easily compete with the best players from my country, but that means nothing since there aren't many players here in Belgium in the first place.
Nyways see ya on psn =)

@10

No, I main boxer though and hate dictator as a character...

@66

I am still not sure about it, probably as I have always found Tekken's game play to be a pile of garbage, and those lame characters are now in it obviously.

Yes of course. Paying for extra gem gives you an advantage. That makes perfect sense.

Except no. The gems are meant to be balanced. The pay ones are necessarily better. It's like complaining that Jill is pay DLC in MvC. Get her if you want to play with her, she's not broken, just another character. Same with the more exotic DLC.

As for people STILL complaining about autoblock and autotech... are you guys idiots? Did you not watch the Cross Counter video? It COSTS METER to autoblock. That's a complete waste of meter, it's a pointless gem.

Just want to point out that the pre-order gems are NOT THAT GOOD.
They are slight variations on the pre existing gems, with different usage conditions. The only ones that are different are the ones with 2 effects, which cost 2 gem slots instead of 1.
Not a single one of these gems are game breaking, and the only gems that have any power either have negatives, such as the Iron Wall Lv.2: Defense Up +20% Attack Down -10%, or require the use of Pandora, such as Divine Speed Lv.3. (Neither example are pre-order gems, just easy examples to use).
All this crazy talk about paying to win is bull crap. All the pre-order (which will end up as dlc gems) aren't unbalanced, and are only there to give people options in how they use gems. You will not be disadvantaged by not getting these gems and people who own these gems have no advantage over you.

a couple questions come to mind when reading some of these comments

1. Concerning the "Pros" endorsement of the current game being completely awesome, i dont see who else (if not a professional player familiar with the basics of fighting games in general) can tell you how good the game is. Scrubs points are invalid, "Pros" are getting paid by capcom, etc. Have you considered the thought that maybe you wont get a satisfying answer unless its your own once you've played?

2. Concerning the argument of OP/abusable gems. The cost of meter and health is actually a big exchange for an Auto-Block. Really think about that. Understood that maybe you're
DESK or Daigo and dont need meter to win. But 99% of the community that has an actual competitive chance in a tourney
know the value of meter and how easy a block/tech throw is. The trade off is not worth it.

I know asking for serious responses on the information super
highway is dead upon entry but im just wondering. lil ol me.

I've played the game at majors...was not impressed to be honest. You will see what Im talking about. The gems dlc propaganda topped it off for me.

I would vote you for President AnaboliChris.
Auto tech and block, no one cares about that.
The DLC is the cancer of this game.
Pay attention guys!

@66

I'm paying attention and I see it too. They are releasing too many of same fighters from the same franchise too fast. Even TVC and MVC have a lot of Street Fighters in it.

There's just so much Versus trash and Street Fighter rehashes that not even those IPs will continue to pull in the numbers after a while. Just look at MVC3. When they finally do try to work with other fighter,s it'll already be too late.

#66

I agree that Capcom has squandered their second chance, but I actually think the decline has already started. It began with AE and continued with UMVC3. The poor sales figures of the latter is a reflection of this. They've gone back to their old ways (endless revisions and recycled content) and they're definitely feeling the pain.

Okay, all these guys were talking about when they were talking about the "scrubs" complaining were the ones that were specifically talking about how things like auto-block and auto-tech could break the game, and there were PLENTY of people that were dumb enough to think so. They didn't even touch on the pricing of gems.

@16
Why wouldn't the "training wheels" come off? Do you really think that when someone feels more confident with teching or blocking or whatever else, that they wouldn't ditch those gems to get their full combo and damage potential and meter?

See, the thing is that Capcom is thinking about their future viability, and that requires having new players come aboard. Alot of you really need to step back and put yourselves in the place of a new gamer. Many of us learned the basics back in SF2. People like to say SF4 is a newbie game with things like easier inputs, but the fact is that SF4 is incredibly complex when you are coming in fresh, because you are having to learn the basic fundamentals that many of you have been practicing for years, along with all of the complex systems that have been implemented over the years.

I find it ironic that some of you want to be able to filter out gems and have stated it by using those assist gems as examples. If anything, i would think the new players having to rely on thoese assist gems would be the ones wanting the filter. How do you think a person with auto block losing meter and having less damage is going to feel going up against a novice player with speed and meter boosts with heavier damage? It's like the equivalent of fighting shin bison in arcade mode lol.

I don't know. I'm looking forward to the game alot. I used to be a yugioh player lol, and i love the idea of customization which is what the gems remind me of. The gameplay seems easily accessible with alot of possibility. It's going to be a great game.

So when Capcom says the gems will be good... They are lying to you.. But when someone else says it... They are being paid to? Makes me wonder if the people who hate the game are being paid by Namco <3

In all seriousness... Good or bad... March will be interesting.

so much butthurt in every damn post about this game. f--kin hilarious cause every single person complaining is buying the game anyway.

of all the gems to whine about you morons are whining about auto-combos and blocking that take meter? pure trolling. anyone who uses those gems is an ass player and you know it. theyre completely pointless. those who are complaining about ultra-fast giefs at least have a point, but im at least willing to try it before bitching about it.

and you jokers seriously think mike and ryan are getting kickbacks from capcom just to say they like the game? get real.

Although I don't share the concerns a lot of these posters have, I do understand them. I also understand them to want people to agree with them, but it's a bit sad when Mike Ross & Gootecks say they like the game to accuse them of being on Capcom's payroll.

Is it so far fetched that they actually like the game that you don't? Obviously, they also have more hands-on time with the game than most of us, so I feel they are in a better position to judge it.

You guys b1tch and moan about the gems as if that's the only thing to this game, which is not the case. Why not be happy you have another game to choose from, regardless whether you buy it or not?

And if you don't buy this game, there will be so many others to enjoy: Skullgirls, SC5, TTT, KOFXIII, TXSF, just take your pick.

"Posted by MikeRoss on January 28, 2012 at 12:44 p.m. #30

Real Talk.

You guys can call me an idiot now cause we do this s--t for free. Capcom hasn't given us a dime. But I vouch like crazy for this game.

Ask Kensou from planet zero, we talked about it in the car when he picked me up from the airport. This game is amazing."

Mike and I had a healthy discussion about the creativity that's presented in the game and we both agree the game will be quite interesting as it develops. It's very easy to speculate and complain about things that we don't understand but it will be a great game for sure when it drops. The game really is amazing just be patient ^_^

If people can grow to accept X-Factor then I'm sure this game's system will grow on people too. If not, well...can't please'em all right?