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Street Fighter X Tekken gem stream archive, details transcript

Posted by Catalyst — January 13, 2012 at 2:58 p.m. PST

Updated again: Some additional notes from Doopliss have been added into this story. If you missed any of the stream, notable details were transcribed in this story, also a stream archive is available if you want to watch this hour long stream yourself, just hit the jump.

Capcom-Unity streamed some Street Fighter X Tekken action this afternoon. Multiple Capcom staff members were on hand to run through the game, including the infamous gem system.

They talked various gameplay aspects and how their systems work, plus took some questions from the fans for a little while.

General Street Fighter X Tekken details

• The development staff said that Street Fighter X Tekken is Capcom's most ambitious fighting game project ever.

• If you buy Street Fighter X Tekken — this will be the only disc product Capcom releases. Any updates will be made available like they did for Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition, i.e. downloadable.

• If you're playing by yourself you might get a fight request from two people playing on the same console, there's no way to filter this out when playing online.

• The streamers said they didn't know what Yoshinori Ono was talking about when he said there was a new feature that would be announced today. They apologized and said Ono trolls them too sometimes.

Gem information

• If you block or tech correctly when you have a auto-block/auto-tech gem equipped, you do not lose meter.

• For charge characters, using the easy/super easy input commands does not change the commands for the fighters. So Guile can't do a one button Sonic Boom or Flash Kick. Capcom realized this would be a balance issue and didn't implement it.

• Using easy input gems reduces your damage by 10%. The idea is if you're new to fighting games, you'd start with the easy commands and then slowly take yourself off of them, as you get better at performing moves.

• Speed gems only affect your movement speed, not your specials. So Ryu cannot throw out fireballs faster or anything.

• You can't use the speed gem to perform an El Fuerte Run Stop Fierce infinite, as some people speculated might be possible.

• Capcom has heard the community's concerns about running gems in the tournament scene, they have a lot of plans in the works to address this that they will be announcing soon.

• Select the super easy input gem means you can't perform some moves, he mentioned Ryu's lunge punch is not available with this gem.

Gameplay notes

• It's harder to play with a partner than by yourself, because doing things like switch cancels and what not needs to be coordinated with the other player, timing needs to be very precise.

• In the current build of the game you can have a total of two wall bounces, after the second wall bounce the next attack you try to land can't be another wall bounce attack or it won't connect.

• They've modified the juggle/combo system so there are no infinite combos in the game.

• You can only do one launcher, if you try to do another one, it'll whiff — in some situations. If you do a naked launcher, you can still connect with another one after that, but in most other cases landing two launchers in the same combo doesn't work.

• You can cancel stringed moves into EX moves and supers, but not regular special moves. For Example: s.LP xx s.MP xx s.HP xx EX Hadoken.

• A lot of moves seem to have added effects on counterhit. For example Ryu's far s.HP and Ken's far s.HK crumple the opponent on counterhit. Dashing out of a lvl.2 charged Super charge gives you counterhit on your next move, and if you whiff a move, you lose the bonus.

• Pandora can be used mid-combo, you just can't cancel into it. Example shown where Ryu activates pandora after EX Donkey Kick, and Ken finishes the combo with a super.

Via Capcom-Unity. Submitted by CountAntonius, Failtron and Rodeddie.

Comments

SakuraFan said on January 13, 2012 at 2 p.m.

Hope Sakura makes an appearence ! She has to be in SFxTekken

Him said on January 13, 2012 at 2 p.m.

Oh shizz, they are going to stream a build with gems!? I can't wait to forget about this stream

Oroku_Saki said on January 13, 2012 at 2:01 p.m.

So many streams, so little time.

Speaking about gems, what are James Chen and UltraDavid up to¿ Haven't heard those guys in a while.

Captainbuttocks said on January 13, 2012 at 2:01 p.m.

wonder what the NEW FEATURE will be?

Guntank said on January 13, 2012 at 2:01 p.m.

7PM EST for those who don't use Daylight Saving times right?

Virtua_Kazama said on January 13, 2012 at 2:02 p.m.

So they got a new build. Let's see how it works out.

Buttery_Scoop said on January 13, 2012 at 2:05 p.m.

someone please record it! I'm stuck at work =/

Summoner said on January 13, 2012 at 2:05 p.m.

WTF where are new characters announcements? how much more we have to wait? its like three months without serious reveals, only hints, accidental leaks and teases...when the hell they're going to show us those six characters from puzzle teasers?...Law, Paul, Ling (can't f*king spell her first name its too damn complicated...), Balrog, Vega and Juri? what about gameplay footage of accidently revealed M.Bison (dictator)? what about other sh*t load of characters that are left to be announced...and we have like how much? two and half months left??...what are they thinking?!!

MadMetalSlayer said on January 13, 2012 at 2:06 p.m.

a stream about the damn gems...
smh

chilldoman said on January 13, 2012 at 2:06 p.m.

*sticks loaded gun in mouth

#10

DarkRyu94 said on January 13, 2012 at 2:08 p.m.

I DONT CARE ABOUT GEM SYSTEM ANYMORE!!! JUST SHOW ME NEW FREAKIN CHARACTERS!!!

#11

FatMus2 said on January 13, 2012 at 2:14 p.m.

Is the new feature...Replays? And I'm not talking about replays as in whole matches, I mean like in Tekken (and SF EX) where after a K.O there's a short replay at a camera angle of the last 5 seconds or so.

#12

NoizyChild said on January 13, 2012 at 2:15 p.m.

We'll get reveals next week, crying children.

In the meantime, take the time to actually see the gems in action and determine if they're actually something to cry about, or if you've all been blowing smoke since October.

#13

doublef said on January 13, 2012 at 2:15 p.m.

the only way they could make this stream worse is if they brought in that dumb girl from X The Line.

i'm not necessarily mad about gems. i just think they're stupid and pointless. Heroes and Heralds actually got it right by:
1) making it a separate mode
2) making the abilities really varied and interesting (instead of SFxT's stupid "800 possible variations of meter boost gems")

#14

Summoner said on January 13, 2012 at 2:15 p.m.

#12 if that is "new feature" than i think i gonna crack my head...

#15

darkneji said on January 13, 2012 at 2:30 p.m.

The gem system reveal will be cool and all...
But I want more characters!!!!

Where are you Lee, Dragunov?...

#16

icejohn said on January 13, 2012 at 2:31 p.m.

zzZzz huh...? what? where am i? its been three freakin months,are we finally going tobe able to see some characters?

noo only gems? good night.

#17

Getdownbrown83 said on January 13, 2012 at 2:35 p.m.

@1 im with you all the way

#18

xShonuffx said on January 13, 2012 at 2:39 p.m.

@8 im more concerned about the gameplay, not characters. Thats the problem with the young FGC today. Everyone is obsessed with characters, i think we should focus on making sure we get a solid fighter. They can always add more characters later.

#19

Summoner said on January 13, 2012 at 2:44 p.m.

#19 listen i don't care what you think, i've been waiting for reveals freaking 3 months!! you don't know what it feels like, when you're hyped about something you count each hours and minutes till you hope you see it...so STFU

#20

CammyLionHeart said on January 13, 2012 at 2:47 p.m.

I agree with #8 entirely (first post not second one)

#21

SakuraFan said on January 13, 2012 at 2:49 p.m.

I did this: http://twitpic.com/86wr40/full the girls I want in SFxTekken... agree?

#22

Summoner said on January 13, 2012 at 2:53 p.m.

#22 if you'd add Rose and Christie there i'd...

#23

SakuraFan said on January 13, 2012 at 2:56 p.m.

#23 Thanks, but these are the ones I care the most

#24

Summoner said on January 13, 2012 at 3:02 p.m.

#23 i didn't ask what you care most...you asked if anyone agree, i said i'd agree if that was the case...

#25

SakuraFan said on January 13, 2012 at 3:02 p.m.

@25 Whateva!

#26

Graphf said on January 13, 2012 at 3:03 p.m.

bison gameplay? missed the stream.

#27

Summoner said on January 13, 2012 at 3:03 p.m.

#26 aha...go f*ck yourself...

#28

SakuraFan said on January 13, 2012 at 3:07 p.m.

@26 haha immature.

#29

SHOGUN said on January 13, 2012 at 3:08 p.m.

@ 20, 23, 25 and 28

You're sad and pathetic. It's sickening. Kappa

#30

Summoner said on January 13, 2012 at 3:12 p.m.

#30 excuse me someone asked you?

#31

SakuraFan said on January 13, 2012 at 3:12 p.m.

@30 Agree with you, no need to waste time with people that have to cuss in order to feel superior... it just makes them immature.

#32

Summoner said on January 13, 2012 at 3:15 p.m.

#32 all those immature or whatever arguments are usually comes from the likes of those, who're immature themselves...because all you do is copy paste and reapeat the same freaking phrase for a hundred's time "immature"...

#33

zUkUu said on January 13, 2012 at 3:15 p.m.

can't combo into normal special moves?! that makes nearly half of them completely useless without meter... lol

#34

Summoner said on January 13, 2012 at 3:16 p.m.

...or is it too "immature" to you to type anything besides that? last time i checked "mature" people had better imagination and ability to express their opinion...

#35

SakuraFan said on January 13, 2012 at 3:23 p.m.

It's immature to cuss without necessity. Period.

#36

Paine said on January 13, 2012 at 3:26 p.m.

Ryu has a lunge punch? The hell?

#37

Neelram said on January 13, 2012 at 3:27 p.m.

I Hope Sakura,
I hope Cammy,
I hope Gouken,
I hope Akuma,
I hope my charachter get buffs so I can play with 1 hand, and win All, get 6000PP and say OMFG SF4 is sooooooooooo good!!!

Can't combo? Can't do this? I'm sooooo good can't link, Ono fix it please!

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :P
Pathetic little people, who wants 5 minutes of their fame on EVENTHUBS!!!.... real life boys, this is really real life. Gratz!

#38

phantomprince29 said on January 13, 2012 at 3:28 p.m.

presentation isnt all that good... should have been better prepared...

#39

AnaboliChris said on January 13, 2012 at 3:31 p.m.

LOL@ all the people that only cares about characters and not the engine/mechanics.

Go play MUGEN.

#40

Catalyst said on January 13, 2012 at 3:35 p.m.

Let's play that video one more time.

#41

neon6 said on January 13, 2012 at 3:49 p.m.

what's the new feature

#42

SHOGUN said on January 13, 2012 at 3:57 p.m.

Umm....gems...

#43

SHOGUN said on January 13, 2012 at 3:58 p.m.

"• Capcom has heard the community's concerns about running gems in the tournament scene, they have a lot of plans in the works that they will be announcing soon. "

I bet they will release a Premium DLC gem that speeds up the selection process for tournament purposes.

#44

EdgeMasterr said on January 13, 2012 at 4:04 p.m.

HOLY CRAP THAT stream was boring -_- No new feature and a shy commentator with 2 noobs playing.... The commentator said: "There is no focus attack....but the dash cancel out of normal is like one..." NO ITS NOT ... Son, I am disapoint.

#45

icejohn said on January 13, 2012 at 4:05 p.m.

ono trolling
new feature my azz!
seriously was there anything in that stream we didn't know for months!

#46

OSM said on January 13, 2012 at 4:05 p.m.

The more I learn about this game the less I care about it. I'm definitely not buying it anymore.

#47

doublef said on January 13, 2012 at 4:08 p.m.

so they're defending this inability to filter out 2-player opponents because it's "harder" for the 2-player team?

Ok.... but what about the fact that learning your opponent's tendencies during a match completely goes out the window when you have to fight 2 different people at the same time.

Maybe the first guy is really patient, and i think i'm fighting a patient person who won't wakeup DP. But when the other char is tagged in, he starts doing wakeup DP's like crazy. then i gotta wonder if there's 2 people fighting me or 1. And NONE of this i can put filters on during matchmaking. That is f*cking STUPID

#48

mmatt said on January 13, 2012 at 4:09 p.m.

To be honest the best part of that stream for me personally, Was seeing rufus in a match. Shame we didnt get to see much of asuka because of the awful player. Was hoping for a character reveal.

#49

Zain23 said on January 13, 2012 at 4:09 p.m.

wow im sure a lot of people including my self only wanted to watch this for the new feature info and not the sh*tty gem system BS they keep cramming down our throats. this was a waste of time, really starting to hate how capcom are becoming so eager to "surprise" the public by not revealing anything and trolling us with stupid teasers that include characters that wont even be in the game.

#50

Aqua said on January 13, 2012 at 4:09 p.m.

you forgot to mention:
* PC support will be an afterthought and just as terrible as before

#51

Captainbuttocks said on January 13, 2012 at 4:10 p.m.

well if you charge and cancel, the next hit seems to crumple like a focus attack level 3... seems like a good way to land an "ultra" or whatever the heck they call it....too many names of moves lol. cross assault super bonus charge move!

#52

Eternal said on January 13, 2012 at 4:10 p.m.

The new feature is that they showed how little they understand.

1. No option to filter out 1v1 vs 2v2 or 1v2 battles
2. Claim that "they made sure that there are no game breaking gems" (yeah I guess every other time fans have discovered a way to break a game it was intentionally put in by Capcom like all of those MvC3 bugs.)
3. Claim that there are no infinites (yeah, right. There are infinites in SF4 which has a much tighter juggle/combo system than SFxT. First week Desk is going to find an infinite just watch)
4. Insulting PC gamers on stream.
5. Ono trolling everyone including capcom itself by claiming there would be new features announced in the stream.
6. Not answering ANY questions about Premium DLC gems/exclusive preorder gems.

Stay classy Capcom.

#53

neogeo_city said on January 13, 2012 at 4:12 p.m.

i guess i played ssfiv so much (which i loved) that im not excited about this like before ...i dont know wether its cuz capcom didnt announce stuff for some time or the game looks like the one before...and all of the gameplays i watched of this title are not attractive ( also im not of a fan of mvc 3 cuz of the combo and tag stuff) ..Ono said at the beginning and emphasized that this is completely different....i still dont know wether this is my kind of game
i really hope it is

#54

Zain23 said on January 13, 2012 at 4:14 p.m.

also the stupid thing is that he said once you dash out a level 2 charge move, your next hit will become a counter hit, but you could clearly see in the stream that if he whiffed the first hit after the dash from charge, he loses the capability of a counter hit. im sure that was taken from tekkens counter hit charge where you press all four attack buttons for a charge for a counter hit, but this one looks crap IMO

#55

Captainbuttocks said on January 13, 2012 at 4:14 p.m.

I think the SF X TEKKEN system that people want is already in SF4. That game works... and this new game seems like a patched version of it with new chars from another game.

#56

TrapcomLovesKayo said on January 13, 2012 at 4:16 p.m.

Capcom unity just banned me from there streams

#57

neogeo_city said on January 13, 2012 at 4:17 p.m.

#56 i agree..i always felt like the tekken characters are sfiv but in alt. customes

#58

Protoman said on January 13, 2012 at 4:18 p.m.

Good summary of the stream.

I'd like to add though the last point made under gem information regarding easy inputs for Ryu, is that actually a Gem? From what I understood in the stream easy inputs was something you could enable from the character information menus. I might be wrong though, as they had to hide the game stream a lot to prevent spoilers.

#59

aridarron said on January 13, 2012 at 4:19 p.m.

@38 ummm....the stream was about SFXT not SF4, what are you talking about?

Seriously Ono needs to stop his trolling, it's really annoying now, they need to get their act together, if you say you're gonna show us a new feature, make it known it needs to be shown.

#60

Captainbuttocks said on January 13, 2012 at 4:20 p.m.

#58 like Lily, seems like a better version of cammy with DKs and the spin knuckle being actually useful. lol

#61

SHOGUN said on January 13, 2012 at 4:21 p.m.

• You can't use the speed gem to perform an El Fuerte Run Stop Fierce infinite, as some people speculated might be possible.

Is El Fuerte even in this game?

#62

Captainbuttocks said on January 13, 2012 at 4:22 p.m.

#62 God i hope not!

#63

neon6 said on January 13, 2012 at 4:23 p.m.

@57 was it something you said?

#64

TrapcomLovesKayo said on January 13, 2012 at 4:28 p.m.

@64 Ya I said Ono should die of Aids

#65

aridarron said on January 13, 2012 at 4:29 p.m.

@52 what's great about it is you can probably hold it until you are ready, with all the other things involved in the game, people may forget about it during a match and get crumbled

@53 couldn't have said it better myself

#66

xShonuffx said on January 13, 2012 at 4:34 p.m.

@54 I think the reason is because unlike most games they annoucne they revealed the game very early (like 6 weeks in development) then updated as they went on. So the hype is toned down. Thats why people are hot over gems and thats why people seem a little fustrated on the mechanic decisions.

Usually they wait till like 6 to 8 months before release to hype up a game but this game is different.

#67

SakuraFan said on January 13, 2012 at 4:36 p.m.

The only good news about this video is that they won't make us buy multiple copies of the same game just for DLC

#68

Virtua_Kazama said on January 13, 2012 at 4:44 p.m.

All I gotta say is this...

TROLLONO STRIKES AGAIN!!!

But seriously, some of the information is very informative. But yea we got trolled by Ono... again.

#69

armordinejad said on January 13, 2012 at 4:47 p.m.

BOYCOTT CAPCOM BOYCOTT CAPCOM BOYCOTT CAPCOM BOYCOTT CAPCOM BOYCOTT CAPCOM BOYCOTT CAPCOM BOYCOTT CAPCOM BOYCOTT CAPCOM BOYCOTT CAPCOM BOYCOTT CAPCOM BOYCOTT CAPCOM

#70

29once said on January 13, 2012 at 4:50 p.m.

This was easily the worst stream I've seen in my whole life. No new information, clueless hosts, and terrible gameplay. And playing Ryu/Ken... like we haven't seen those enough already.

#71

Doopliss said on January 13, 2012 at 4:53 p.m.

There were some new tidbits, being able to cancel EX moves from strings for example. And an example of mid-combo pandora.

#72

Protoman said on January 13, 2012 at 5:11 p.m.

@59

Nevermind, just doublechecked the Gem list and easy input is on there.

#73

GokaiGreen said on January 13, 2012 at 5:28 p.m.

Until now I Speculated but the main NEW thing that Capcom puts in every fighter to annoy people is Crumple.

Slowing down the game flow and making moves too good for no reason.

#74

Him said on January 13, 2012 at 5:29 p.m.

I'm not trying to be a fanboy, but when Tekken x Street Fighter comes out, this game is going to be forgotten

#75

Doopliss said on January 13, 2012 at 5:44 p.m.

@75: Hard to say at this point, because frankly, we know close to nothing about it. But you might be right based simply on the time between them though.

#76

aridarron said on January 13, 2012 at 5:45 p.m.

@75 you're not being a fanboy just a realist

#77

rlt4life said on January 13, 2012 at 5:54 p.m.

Waaaaait a second.

So when Ono made the tweet about a new feature, everyone was all " DIS GAME NO NEED NO MORE IT FAILZ"

But now that it's seemingly not the case, he's a troll? What the fail, man..

#78

larryb1988 said on January 13, 2012 at 5:58 p.m.

No matter whats in the game, I'm gonna get it. Gems or no gems, butts will be gettin kicked lol. So I'll be waiting.

#79

brickattack said on January 13, 2012 at 5:59 p.m.

we are all to blame.

we responded so faithfully to the mvc3/ae hype that Capcom thought they would step it up thinking it will lead to more sales of sfxt.

making themselves look like cock ends.

Whatever happened to the days when it was all a surprise when the game came out...?

Nowadays - we've all watched a million games online before we even get chance to hold the box in our hands.

Kinda takes the fun out of it Capcom - typical of any industry: take a good thing, turn it into a cash cow and then milk, milk, milk till everyone loses interest.

I don't mind the money - but the bullsht is getting boring, FAST!

#80

Doopliss said on January 13, 2012 at 6:01 p.m.

@80: Uhm, that's not Capcom's fault, that's the internet's fault. They would've done it back then too if they had the means to.

#81

Rugg said on January 13, 2012 at 6:12 p.m.

Just reveal Cody and Guy already, cut the bullsh*t.

#82

brickattack said on January 13, 2012 at 6:13 p.m.

@81 I agree...

Im old school!

I like the surprise. But when theres new info offered i can't help myself.

When they get round to SF5 I'd love it if they'd just be completely silent until launch. Maybe a little teaser here n there... but not this pathetic marketing circus.

Its turning muppets into celebrities - and taking all of the surprise out of the finished product.

#83

LitchiFayeLing said on January 13, 2012 at 6:21 p.m.

#78

Exactly

#83

Not gonna happen. People will whine and moan about Cap not giving out info, call them trolls, then somehow a leak will happen that will tell everyone about everything the game offers and the leaker will get praised and then everyone is going to look at Cap to still surprise them somehow.

#84

Phillyfanboy said on January 13, 2012 at 6:26 p.m.

Games going to be good.

#85

Ninjagoon said on January 13, 2012 at 6:48 p.m.

Looking good so far. Unfortunately, I plan on buying Soul Calibur 5 so SFxT gonna have to wait

#86

Rising_Jaguar said on January 13, 2012 at 7:02 p.m.

#1 and #18 all the way!~
Sakura for SFxTKN!!!!~

#87

ArcShawdow said on January 13, 2012 at 7:46 p.m.

I like how a few months ago all I seen was comments about "when are we going to see gems derp" because everybody was so worried. Now I'm seeing 'yawn we don't want to see this". I've never seen such a pack of spoiled babies than what I see on these SFxT videos.

#88

Dafamx said on January 13, 2012 at 7:49 p.m.

POWER STONE IN THE BACKGROUND!!!!!! AHHHHH! CAPCOM HASNT FORGOTTEN ABOUT THEM?? >.<

...Super off topic..

#89

ArcShawdow said on January 13, 2012 at 7:56 p.m.

I'm loving the original SF2 mix in the background at about 16:30.

#90

larryb1988 said on January 13, 2012 at 8:16 p.m.

#88 u right

#91

mc said on January 14, 2012 at 12:50 a.m.

the upcoming capcom fight club will have the latest build of sfxt playable, so i'm assuming they reaveal new characters today...if so that ono's tweet about new chars revealed next week is another troll post XD

#92

FatMus2 said on January 14, 2012 at 12:51 a.m.

there was a new feature that I didn't see before, specific team character intros. The raven/yoshimitsu one was pretty sweet. However I don't think all the hype was for this :P

#93

crimzonking22 said on January 14, 2012 at 2:13 a.m.

SEAN MATSUDA!! needs to be in this

#94

halo said on January 14, 2012 at 4:17 a.m.

Im happy that Capcom will be releasing each update as DLC add on but i was hoping they would follow the exact same strategy as with A.E. and also release it in physical form for those of us who like to collect or those who don't have access to Live or PSN

#95

danny2times said on January 14, 2012 at 6:10 a.m.

Lmao @ all u little kids saying you're not going to buy it. Hmmm let's see sf has sold millions! There's roughly 30 people on here saying they won't buy it, I think you're put numbered and nobody gives a shoot about it. Chew on that you tubby little pigs!
*shrugs shoulders and sh!ts pants*

#96

larryb1988 said on January 14, 2012 at 6:41 a.m.

Lmao @96

#97

FShoryu said on January 14, 2012 at 7:36 a.m.

So El Fuerte is in? lol

#98

USAgent said on January 14, 2012 at 8:14 a.m.

>DP on the left side

Oh my god my one weakness.

#99

Celticlord said on January 14, 2012 at 3:47 p.m.

Trolling the PC version as usual Crapcom

#100

deltawhite said on January 14, 2012 at 4:22 p.m.

So, even mid-combo, Pandora mode is useless?

#101

Doopliss said on January 14, 2012 at 6:07 p.m.

@101 If you thought that was useless, you need to get your eyes checked. That was like a 70% combo, and that was without attack buffs, and a not-so-powerful super.

#102

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