MK from eLive Pro has posted a short podcast stating that they will no longer support games from pro-SOPA editors. They also posted an open letter to the fans, players and staff members of the community.We love games, we support players but we will always fight for the Internet and for our freedom.
eLive will stop sponsoring teams in events related to pro-SOPA editor's games.
If Capcom, SNK-P, Namco & co. are supporting SOPA, eLive will not participate in tournaments related to these fighting games anymore.
Hit the jump to see what TwitchTV said about SOPA.
I want to give a shout-out to those that thought and still think SOPA is not a big deal Hopefully as more bigger voices are heard, there will be more anti-SOPA supporters.
Again, SOPA is not to be taken lightly.
The Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA), also known as H.R. 3261, is a bill that was introduced in the United States House of Representatives on October 26, 2011, by Representative Lamar Smith (R-TX) and a bipartisan group of 12 initial co-sponsors. The bill expands the ability of U.S. law enforcement and copyright holders to fight online trafficking in copyrighted intellectual property and counterfeit goods.[2] Now before the House Judiciary Committee, it builds on the similar PRO-IP Act of 2008 and the corresponding Senate bill, the PROTECT IP Act.[3]
The originally proposed bill would allow the U.S. Department of Justice, as well as copyright holders, to seek court orders against websites accused of enabling or facilitating copyright infringement. Depending on who requests the court orders, the actions could include barring online advertising networks and payment facilitators such as PayPal from doing business with the allegedly infringing website, barring search engines from linking to such sites, and requiring Internet service providers to block access to such sites. The bill would make unauthorized streaming of copyrighted content a crime, with a maximum penalty of five years in prison for 10 pieces of music or movies within six months. The bill also gives immunity to Internet services that voluntarily take action against websites dedicated to infringement, while making liable for damages any copyright holder who knowingly misrepresents that a website is dedicated to infringement
SOPA is just another attempt to control thus milk the existing freedom of the internet for profit.....
If SOPA wins expect the internet to become another fox news ...
SOPA is not going anywhere, we might as well embrace it. It is harsh and unfair (to an extent, since it basically nullifies the first amendment), but the thieves have fvcked it up for everyone, and that's just what it is.
I don't think punishing these companies is the right idea...its not like any developer has the power to just rebel like google or facebook, for instance...game developers are too coochie to do anything else besides pander to the ESA
@12
SOPA will do more harm to people who actually support games than good of reducing piracy.
Piracy will still be there, there are private trackers and a ton of anonymous ways to share data secretly, it can't be stopped no matter what.
Companies should focus on providing solid online features so people would buy their products to avoid getting their consoles banned via piracy, they should just make sure that people who pirate won't be able to use these features and so far it works pretty well.
@15 a lot of developers who belong to ESA are speaking against SOAP, for example Epic Games, 38 Studios, Trion games, Nival Games. A lot of people a lot of companies/developers etc are starting to take notice to the threat that is SOPA, Sopa isn't just a Anti piracy act, it's something much MUCH bigger, it's about taking about your rights and freedom of speech
@14
it's not a defeatist attitude, the thieves have fvcked it up for everyone, and it is what it is, like I said...I don't like it anymore than you do, I'm just being realistic, there will be ways to find loopholes anyhow...I have no idea how they will do it, but you just know they will find a way to exploit something that's left out in the bill...I just don't expect it to be as bad as anyone else, so I guess I'm an optimist
@20 You should read more about what SOPA here's some helpful links
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=...
SFflip thanks for posting this. I wasn't sure if you guys got my link or not. Eventhubs Rocks!
I have sent messages to twitchTv and others thanking them for taking a stand against SOPA. If you guys have a few minutes of free time send them an email and tell them thanks and let them know you have their back.
@19
Well please inform me, you dick
What I know is that when someone says "The First Amendment does not protect stealing goods off trucks" and uses that as a reason to not consider free speech is that we obviously were not that free to begin with (according to what they consider stealing) and the "theft of U.S. property" is their major concern...they mostly talk about stolen content and selling counterfeit drugs. All of this constitutes as thievery.
#23
That's the factor that people seem to be ignoring here, money. You can gather thousands, millions of supporters, but will that make a difference against the money the "big guys" have invested to support SOPA?
As to #21
Why don't you watch this video and tell me what's wrong with it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFiX6p...
Good lookin' out with the vids Guntank. I woulda responded sooner, but I was gettin' my Tebow on.
Thieves still fvcked it up for everybody, and to make it even worse, they threw the bait out there, and we ate it up. In hindsight we've inadvertently given them a leg to stand on. It's a petty ass bill that has been created on enabling piracy and then condemning us for it, essentially. Now they are just taking their ball and going home, taking everything that makes the internet great with them. They are robbing themselves, so there will be a loophole sooner or later...I remain optimistic, because this is too much money the country is sapping from itself.
Solless you need to get into the real world. LightningBS is right, politics in this country are controlled by dollars, not votes. It sucks but welcome to the real world, why do you think the occupy wall-street movement exists?
The SOPA is going to effect those people that attempt to PROFIT from their streams. Think of organizations like CanadaCup or CrossCounter who charge money to view their content, that is who SOPA is aimed at. If you don't charge money to view the stream, combo video, tutorial or whatever than you have nothing to worry about.
yeah I'm sure the politicians are shaking in their boots now that eLive Pro has weighed in on the debate...
It may be true that politicians often ignore the public in light of huge dollars coming their way. But they generally care a little about what their constituents think. Also people apparently fail to realize that HUGE tech/internet companies are also against the bill. If google, facebook etc weren't entirely opposed to the bill and throwing their weight to defeat it, then maybe you'd have an argument that it's hopeless.
But this time the public is lucky that they also have dollars on their side, and SOPA passing is no foregone conclusion.
Also please never EVER say "well, it probably won't affect us, so oh well." That is the worst mentality you could have. This is clearly a flawed bill no matter how you look at it, and one that is not even remotely justified. If people can abuse the law, the WILL abuse the law.
so for those who don't know why there is so much hullaballoo over SOPA...
Basically, the way it is currently written, it gives jurisdiction to the government and companies to shut down and/or sue any website that contains "infringing content". This means that ANY ONE PIECE OF of "questionable material" can get your website shut down. That means, if capcom wants to, they can shut down this very website. This means that if ONE PERSON posts on youtube a clip from some movie idk, lets say one scene from "the dark knight" then all of youtube can legally be shut down. This is extremely problematic because most of the successful, actually most sites, have USER GENERATED CONTENT. that means we can interact with our websites. WE can post links, we can post pictures, etc but it makes the entire website liable for the stuff that WE post. Do you really think that any large site can really control the literal MILLIONS of uploads PER MINUTE?
picture that your house is hosting a party, you invite all your friends etc, but one of your friends invites a friend you dont even know to your house. He brings a blunt. ONE BLUNT. Now picture the government being allowed to ban you from your own house because of ONE UNINVITED A$$HOLE who brought this blunt. This is sorta what SOPA allows. This isnt even a euphemism or a hyperbole, this is EXACTLY what SOPA allows the way the bill is written now.
The main issue is that SOPA bill, yes it is trying to stop piracy (which im for going against piracy), gives companies or the government FAR TOO MUCH POWER and FAR TOO HARSH OF PENALTIES for copy write infringement. One other issue that makes it even more suspicious is that there are several senators that are trying to push this bill as fast as possible, and many are not even considering amendments. This just generally raises suspicion on whos putting money in their pockets to push this bill, when frankly, many of the senators don't even understand how the internet works. do they know what a DNS is? do they know what an IP address is? why are senators pushing a legislation so hard about something they dont understand? That i would say is the most suspicious part and why so many are opposed to SOPA.
Godaddy has lost a grand number of people from their servers and they "stopped" supporting SOPA. See what the people of people can do? the more people are against SOPA, the more there is support the less chance it will pass.
Politicians will back down if enough people persuade them it has happen before.
Day by day we keep seeing MORE companies against SOPA, sopa chances of passing are indeed high thats why so many are fighting against it.
@26
That video has so many wrong points it's not even funny. they already said they will do a black out on the 23rd.The people investing in the companies with google and others are more than willing to allow this happening because if SOPA passes they will lose FAR more money even face closure with SOPA. They pockets are in danger and they are willing to do whatever it needs to be done to stop sopa.
LMFAO! people are doing it wrong.
Write to congress! Boycotting companies associated with ESA ain't going to do anything to SOPA.
What's even funnier is that twitch moved their domains off godaddy even though godaddy already dropped support for SOPA in december.
By the way, Piracy isn't a problem, just check what Gabe from Value said:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/...
they have "dropped" their current support, but they have not recanted their statements to congress. They spoke in congress supporting it wayyy before, but saying that they dont support it anymore doesn't affect them at all because they havent gone back to tell congress "nevermind, we dont like this bill"
Down with SOPA
Screw GODaddy.com too
This bill will NOT pass.
It needs to be more specific and user centric.
At the very least, get informed about the SOPA and PIPA bills.
I strongly urge you to call/email/town hall your local reps because this is a very clear cut attack on the internet as we know it.
For those of you that are against the bill, but haven't even tried contacting someone to express your opposition--I am very disappointed. One voice alone might not be enough to stop this, but get enough uproar and... well, I hope you heard about Egypt.
How do we get involved in a way to stop this bulls#it? Any info will be greatly appreciated. F*ck communism!
#30
As much as we are agreeing here, I think SOPA will still target non Profit streams and content. The bill's terms aren't crystal clear. It could interpret a lot of things, which is why people fear it.
#34
Did the investing companies state that they would support the blackout? Or are you assuming this? I'll look it up just in case.
#39
LOL " LightningBull**** " , yeah, I'm the salty one here. Like your name, that line was very original.
@35
Yeah, this is one of the bigger problems right now. People are focusing on the wrong thing; they're not looking at the big picture. Attacking a couple companies is fine and dandy, but it doesn't get the point across as well as it could, nor will it actually dissuade congress from passing the bill. In order to actually stop SOPA, it's the government and the representative companies like the ESA that needs to be informed of our stance.
As it stands, should SOPA go through, the sponsored players are the ones that will suffer the most out of eLive Pro no longer supporting Capcom, SNK-Playmore, and Namco games. It's a respectable effort but eLive Pro is focusing on the wrong companies here, especially since it's the ESA that is representing companies like Capcom and Namco in regards to things like SOPA, so if anything they should be taking their grievances up directly with the ESA and not the companies that it represents. There are 38 companies under the ESA's umbrella, Capcom and Namco changing their stance would not affect the ESA that much. Especially when the only stance either company takes is "take it up with the ESA". So...why hasn't anyone done that yet?
As an aside: as far as I know, SNK-Playmore have not said anything about supporting SOPA so they're fine there, but I don't know how many KOF players there are for eLive Pro. It certainly can't be as many as the SF and Tekken players though. I can't help but feel that they're inadvertently shooting themselves in the the foot here. :/
here's something funny not sure how true it is though...
Hell yeah! more people against SOPA!