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Sven talks Super Street Fighter 2T HD Remix and desire to create more 2D games

Posted by Nyoro
January 6, 2012 at 12:29 p.m. PST
Sven talks Super Street Fighter 2T HD Remix and desire to create more 2D games Capcom Senior VP Christian Svennson answered some questions from fans today in Ask Capcom.

In the forums he discusses two things; one being some interesting facts about HD Remix and the possibility of creating more 2D games and the other being a firm stance on present PC game development when it comes to Games for Windows Live. Hit the jump for the second Q&A.

Please do another HD remix, maybe the alpha series (SFA3 max with Balrog etc). All the people I play HD remix with agree IV is lame. - Oliver

Svensson: Oh, man. I can't overstate what a tricky project HDR was. I'm happy with the outcome (critically, community wise, sales wise) but it was a really hard tightrope to walk and some points in development were really scary (like when we threw away about 2,500 frames of animation in various stages of completion because we weren't happy with them and started again).

And the consumer expectation bar has moved considerably. The costs of doing a project like that today, with the attention to detail/features that SF3:Online Edition had, it would be difficult for sales forecasts to shoulder.

That said, we'll see what the future holds. Creatively, I'd like to do more 2D stuff in the future like this.

Of the previous years Games for Windows Live supporters among publishers and developers, it seems that Capcom are the only ones still supporting it.

Now I do know about the issues people have with Steam and Steamworks, and I´m not interested in defending it. I would just like to know, do Capcom still feel that Games for Windows Live is they way to go with their PC titles, or are you exploring alternatives to it? - Yachmenev


Svensson: We'll see what the future holds. Too soon to say one way or the other. I can say our titles nearest the door will continue to make use of Games for Windows Live.

Please leave your feedback in the comments.

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Oroku_Saki's avatar
Oroku_Saki said on January 6, 2012 at 12:22 p.m.

New 2D fighters¿¿¿¿
Yes please.
On Steam without Games For Windows Live whatever¿¿¿
Yes please.

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Model_M said on January 6, 2012 at 12:22 p.m.

"The costs of doing a project like that today, with the attention to detail/features that SF3:Online Edition had, it would be difficult for sales forecasts to shoulder."

And thats why SNK is the sh!t.

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zUkUu said on January 6, 2012 at 12:24 p.m.

how is the stance of eventhubs on SOPA btw? :3 *obvious question*

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TwoCoins said on January 6, 2012 at 12:26 p.m.

Basically saying, we want to make money by not putting in the work.

general consensus - we know this.

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leGENdarykiryu said on January 6, 2012 at 12:35 p.m.

Personally if it's possible I think they should do SF4 Engine versions of past games. I mean don't get me wrong. I would kill for a HD version of Alpha 3. But I think some games would work well under the SF4 engine. Have the exact same cast as the game in question, let's use Alpha 3. Try to make the same frame data and have the same type of supers. I think that would make for a good game.

But that's just my opinion.

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Xykes said on January 6, 2012 at 12:44 p.m.

#4

But, they DID put in work. Lots of work. Much of which was thrown out and wasted. It's understandable that they would want to be more efficient/intelligent next time.

And, yes, business is all about making money with the least amount of work...otherwise, your company dies, and no more games. Yay!

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Kenshiro said on January 6, 2012 at 12:54 p.m.

#5 Then you would have even more players unhappy about the way their favorite characters transitioned from 2D to 2.5D. We DON'T need more whining tbqh.

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foolly said on January 6, 2012 at 1:03 p.m.

@ leGENdarykiryu i agree and think its possible but from reading his 1st paragraph, i doubt they will feel its worth the trouble and resources to use the sf4 engine/graphics on a very old game/remake. they could lose A LOT trying to please a potentially very small fan base. i would love the idea though!

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bokosaki said on January 6, 2012 at 1:03 p.m.

So they threw away 2500 frames of animation and still came up with that kind of crap? Sure don't do it please, I'll be spitting blood from my lung if A3 ever gets a HD version like that.

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Batsu said on January 6, 2012 at 1:05 p.m.

So when are we going to see the Vampire Savior HD Remix, or are you to b!tch-made for that, Capcom?

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jaib83 said on January 6, 2012 at 1:05 p.m.

Please don't make another HDRemix
Street fighter II HDRemix was horrible, awful hitboxes, animation.

Thank you Cashcom America

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akumous said on January 6, 2012 at 1:14 p.m.

Wow Capcom's representative make it sound so complex, time consuming, and costly to produce a 2d game from the ground up or remastered remake. OK, Capcom, then why lesser companies in terms of profitably and recognition - Atlus's Blaze blue series and SNK's King of Fighters series - produced their games with high production values in a quicker cycle?

Capcom is a cheap company that doesn't want to invest in there in there games...however it should benefit them since they recycle their titles consistently. I am still on the list for wanting to see a truly high definition SF title with comparable animation to 3rd strike.

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neon6 said on January 6, 2012 at 1:17 p.m.

not gonna happen

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Pmagic said on January 6, 2012 at 1:41 p.m.

capcom would do this but the people who complain are a small amount, so they still make money from the casual fans.

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Lemres said on January 6, 2012 at 1:47 p.m.

YES!!! Give us Alpha3 Max!

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Creeper said on January 6, 2012 at 1:50 p.m.

"And the consumer expectation bar has moved considerably."

Yeah, it's been raised by BlazBlue, The King of Fighters XII(I), and last but not least SKULL-FREAKIN'-GIRLS.

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baiken said on January 6, 2012 at 1:57 p.m.

They should stop putting excuses to not go back at 2d sprites. Skullgirls in particular looks way better than HDR (in fact it looks better than any other 2d fighting game) and it will cost the same.

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3DJr said on January 6, 2012 at 2:11 p.m.

I dont think Alpha 3 needs an HDR treatment; the 3rdSOE treament for games produced in the 90s is completely acceptable to me.
My main concern is that port the MAX/Double Upper version of SFA3. 40 characters and online dramatic battles would be awesome. It wouldnt hurt to include Kyosuke too.

If people want an HD 2D sprite based fighter, they should ask Capcom to upgrade a port of Sengoku Bassara X. Those sprites are detailed enough to make a simpler crossover into HD.

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AkumaXoXTenshi said on January 6, 2012 at 2:15 p.m.

People have problems with Steam?! This is news to me! Since when was Steam ever a problem? It's so efficient and has all your games in one spot. Yeah, I guess people who don't like digital content might not like Steam; I can understand that much, but still...

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foolly said on January 6, 2012 at 2:31 p.m.

2D games are not the problem. 15 year old remakes are. skullgirls, the new kof are all new games. maybe u guys should ask capcom to invest in a brand new 2d fighter, not an old remake.

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OSM said on January 6, 2012 at 2:36 p.m.

Keep Udon the hell away from any future 2D projects.

I'd love to see Darkstalkers 4 be 2D.

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BlankaBeast said on January 6, 2012 at 2:38 p.m.

2D 4 Life.

I am all for the 2D fighter goodness.

on PC too!

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KingAdon said on January 6, 2012 at 3:45 p.m.

Alpha 3 HD would be cool.

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soggytoast said on January 6, 2012 at 3:51 p.m.

Here is Capcom's latest 2D project:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbht_b...

I definitely believe him when he says they had to trash all of their animations for HDR and start over again. When you mess up, it looks THIS BAD.

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Aluppoj said on January 6, 2012 at 3:59 p.m.

What a bunch of in spoiled rotten little babies. Street Fighter 4 is an amazing game! You owe your Skull Girls, KOF13, MK to the success/revival of the SF series in 08/09!

Feel free to thank them anytime.

Secondly, he said they ARE interested in making more 2D games! Just not re-drawing more old games! Learn to comprehend!

Furthermore. All of the "classics" you beg for are still available to play on some format, somewhere! Stop begging for a port that you'll drop for SF4 after two weeks. SF3 anyone? If your not playing those games now, odds are a PS3/X-Box port isn't going to change that.

Btw, the classics you beg for.... DS/VS/NW, SFA2/3/Max. These games were all made by Capcom as well! So no need to say "They suck" or anything like that because they've created the masterpieces you all want!

And SF4? The way I see it Capcom's innovating! Who the F else is making fighting games in 2.5D? Why should they conform? SF4 is art in motion. It's the first time the Artists work has been accurately captured using polygons and shaders! EX sure as hell didn't do it! Rival Schools sure as hell didn't do it! Yet you beg for those games!

The EH community is a fickle bunch. In ten years SF4 will be remembered as a CLASSIC! And you'll all beg for a perfect port to your next gen consoles. All the while ripping SF5 a new A$$hole.

Stay Free, Stay Salty. Peace.

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Aluppoj said on January 6, 2012 at 4:14 p.m.

Go scream at the MK guys for doing 2.5D SF rip off instead of doing Motion Capture like they used to lol.

Nope, no one says a word about them. You all loved MK, it's sooo under rated.

Btw, by "Rip Off" I mean the formula for success. Even though they did add "two in ones" and a "Dash".

I guess they are allowed to evolve, but SF has to be stuck in 1997.

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AnaboliChris said on January 6, 2012 at 4:24 p.m.

Aluppoj, id buy you a beer.

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kdavis851 said on January 6, 2012 at 4:46 p.m.

Cheers to Aluppoj.

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Aluppoj said on January 6, 2012 at 5:15 p.m.

Thanks guys.

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lukecage83 said on January 6, 2012 at 6:25 p.m.

I love SF regardless of if it's 2d or 2.5d. I love 3s, I love IV (more into 3s though). However, I would'nt mind seeing Capcom return to sprite work at all, as it is the reason i fell in love with their fighting games.

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danny2times said on January 6, 2012 at 7:16 p.m.

@ aluppoj
i'd let you get me pregnant,bro.

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R4HU1 said on January 6, 2012 at 8:44 p.m.

sopa?

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Kamehamehadouken said on January 6, 2012 at 8:55 p.m.

Vampire or nothing! Capcom can suck my salty balkril then. All fighters are a$$ and unworthy of purchase til I get my game! I'm sick of playing on ggpo, I need something a little more fresh.

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xRELLIKx said on January 6, 2012 at 11:36 p.m.

rofl @ 4

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RyuForever said on January 6, 2012 at 11:42 p.m.

@25 Tonight,you and I will be buying beers for the greatest comment you have posted in this site!

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Aluppoj said on January 7, 2012 at 12:49 a.m.

Lol, damn guys. Should I accept an award for my comment? Lol, but I'm really happy you all agree.

I'll have beers with all of you!

But Danny.... I can't come thru on the "Pregnancy" offer lol. Nice of you to offer:)

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Shep131 said on January 7, 2012 at 10:43 a.m.

I like the idea of having all the old sf games in one place on my ps3 but im not fussed aslong as Capcom keep my fave series alive!

also... well said Aluppoj

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