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Capcom USA VP responds to SOPA concerns

Posted by SFilp
January 5, 2012 at 3:08 p.m. PST
Capcom USA VP responds to SOPA concerns Capcom's Christian Svensson replied to a question on the Capcom-Unity forums today asking "Why Capcom USA support Sopa and Ip protection?"

Guys, a few points:

1. We are members of the ESA (along side pretty much every other major publisher in our industry).

2. We've only ever stated that the ESA represents us in legislative matters (again, like every other publisher). We have not stated any stance on our support (or not) for SOPA. Inferring more than that is bad journalism (which seems to be rampant based upon the rereporting of a six word response to inquiry).

3. Months ago I've commented that streaming folks/video uploading have absolutely nothing to worry about. We've always been very accomodating to our supporters (and as this thread would demonstrate, even our detractors) and I don't ever see that changing.

The ESA is working with representatives to improve solutions to what is a real problem. For more details, Gamasutra had a statement from the ESA that states:

Hit the jump to see the rest of his reply.

"As an industry of innovators and creators, we understand the importance of both technological innovation and content protection, and do not believe the two are mutually exclusive. Rogue websites -- those singularly devoted to profiting from their blatant illegal piracy -- restrict demand for legitimate video game products and services, thereby costing jobs."

"Our industry needs effective remedies to address this specific problem, and we support the House and Senate proposals to achieve this objective. We are mindful of concerns raised about a negative impact on innovation. We look forward to working with the House and Senate, and all interested parties, to find the right balance and define useful remedies to combat willful wrongdoers that do not impede lawful product and business model innovation."

At Capcom, we're game makers, not legislators. We do not have an internal stance on this particular issue and are not planning to. We'll get back to making games. Thanks.

Tip submitted by zUkUu.

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BluePepsi said on January 5, 2012 at 2:58 p.m.

Trying to save face as usual

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EDGEucator said on January 5, 2012 at 2:59 p.m.

@#1
I know right , if people don't know by now that Capcoms word is worthless , I don't know what to tell them.

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JasonLee said on January 5, 2012 at 3 p.m.

Damage Controllllll

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Kimmy_13 said on January 5, 2012 at 3:04 p.m.

The only reason they have to write this is because retards couldn't read that it was the ESA who suported SOPA not Capcom directly. If people could read Capcom wouldn't of had to waste their time writing this.

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brokenTEstick said on January 5, 2012 at 3:04 p.m.

and here comes the PR department...SFxT is ass, SOPA is ass.

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Virtua_Kazama said on January 5, 2012 at 3:05 p.m.

This is what happens when you bring politics into video games. Prepare for a bunch of immature comments and trolling.

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Kimmy_13 said on January 5, 2012 at 3:05 p.m.

@6 hell does this have to do SFxT ?

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Augusta said on January 5, 2012 at 3:06 p.m.

Trying to justify SOPA?
Will never purchase anything capcom related 'New' ever again.
Companies like Capcom simply doesn't care about its audience.

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Ett said on January 5, 2012 at 3:06 p.m.

"We have not stated any stance on our support (or not) for SOPA"

"We've only ever stated that the ESA represents us in legislative matters"

ESA supports SOPA. Capcom is a member so they support as long as then don't take a public stance against SOPA.

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Him said on January 5, 2012 at 3:07 p.m.

"we are sorry, bt we really got to lock you up, but watch our streams and support our games which are now devoted to the casual gamers who wont give light to these games after a few months"

I see what you did there Capcom.

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EDGEucator said on January 5, 2012 at 3:08 p.m.

@#7
I agree 100% Kazama , all the trolls will come out to defend Capcom just because this man opened his mouth & will not use their brains in their responses to said article. Funny if they do , because I'd have to ask where were they yesterday then.

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zUkUu said on January 5, 2012 at 3:12 p.m.

capcom disabled any answeres to threads containing SOPA discussions...
[Quote]"As an industry of innovators and creators, we understand the importance of both technological innovation and content protection, and do not believe the two are mutually exclusive. Rogue websites -- those singularly devoted to profiting from their blatant illegal piracy -- restrict demand for legitimate video game products and services, thereby costing jobs."
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Rogue webstes are one thing, but this bill allows to let any blog, any website with a commentating feature, any social network, any pic/file/video -hoster be removed. this will turn into self-control of said websites that is beyond capabilities. youtube has to VIEW every uploaded video to ensure that it doesn't contain copyrighted material. that basically means you have ~1% of your daily video upload now, with monthly pending ques, for no youtube professionals. including your gameplay material from players. it's one thing that you "allow" your content, but this is of no interest to youtube and co. they'll remove it to be on the safe side. it'll require more then months till it'll get through to them. not to speak of other minor websites around the globe. you call that innovation? I call that simply censorship and limitation of free speech, since even content that isn't copyrighted will suffer tremendously under it.

make a law that specially designates 'pirating websites' that ONLY have the purpose to be a platform to host copyrighted material. there you have your agreement.

[Quote]"Our industry needs effective remedies to address this specific problem, and we support the House and Senate proposals to achieve this objective. We are mindful of concerns raised about a negative impact on innovation. We look forward to working with the House and Senate, and all interested parties, to find the right balance and define useful remedies to combat willful wrongdoers that do not impede lawful product and business model innovation." [/Quote]

the bill in it's current form is allready READY TO PASS in their opinion. you're anything but mindful. you're simply IGNORING any concerns. and let the senate, who doesn't has any clue it seems what they're trying to achive, do the work and take the blame.

[Quote]At Capcom, we're game makers, not legislators. We do not have an internal stance on this particular issue and are not planning to. We'll get back to making games. Thanks.[/Quote]

you simply push your guiltiness away. you allready have taken side automatically with being with the ESA - that is, if you don't dissociate from their support. being silent counts as supporting if you under their wing. at least make an official statement raising your concern wishing that they'll back off, or simply quit or threaten to. ANYTHING.

if half the ESA members raise their voice, the ESA will back out aswell. Please capcom, stand in for your customers.



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zombiebrian said on January 5, 2012 at 3:13 p.m.

Sounds like "cant we just blame our lawyers" to me. If capcom truley listened to the fans as they often state they would talk to the esa about the issues sopa as it effects its fans rather than release a statement that excuses itself by pleading ignorance.

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Kimmy_13 said on January 5, 2012 at 3:14 p.m.

@11 I came out to defend Capcom because they're one of teh few game devs actually decent games consistantly. Reason I didn't post yesterday is because the retards who can't read were out in force blinding hating, when if they could read they'd know it's not Capcom who is suporting SOPA its ESA. There was one idiot dumb enough to think it was Onos fault.

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3DJr said on January 5, 2012 at 3:17 p.m.

Christian Svensson: "We'll get back to making games. Thanks."

The ostridge technique of head burrying will not cut it on such a gravitas situation. Especially when it affects how the games they make will be used.

Until Capcom gets off the ESA representative bus, they are still headed to the SOPA destination.

Capcom needs to grow some balls, make a stand, and get a new spokesman.

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EDGEucator said on January 5, 2012 at 3:19 p.m.

@14
Lol Ono ? He has almost no say if Capcom supports sopa , it's the mangers , higher ups , vice presidents & presidents of Capcom swaying & making the decision. (Maybe Kenzo as well if he was notified before hand.)
(Also i meant to respond to #6 not #7. My bad Kimmy.)

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MajenX said on January 5, 2012 at 3:20 p.m.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entertai...

I suggest you read this. It doesn`t really help Capcom`s case much, but at least it spreads the blame around a bit. It seems most publishers are ignorant morons.

Not just Capcom :)

I hope they retract they`re membership from the ESA (at least until the ESA stops supporting SOPA)

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doublef said on January 5, 2012 at 3:22 p.m.

SOPA 2012 Edition?

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kdavis851 said on January 5, 2012 at 3:22 p.m.

@15

None of those companies the make up the ESA are going to break off from it. Even the companies that said they were "against" SOPA, are still members of the ESA, which according to the logic of this thread, means they still support it.

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zombiebrian said on January 5, 2012 at 3:23 p.m.

@mark why do you think?

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MonkeyCha0s said on January 5, 2012 at 3:28 p.m.

i had a feeling a post was deleted. #7's wrongful reply to 6 and #11's wrongful reply to 7 threw me off for a second. but thankfully #17 made things clear for me.

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3DJr said on January 5, 2012 at 3:29 p.m.

@20

Its like what comment #12 says: "If half the ESA members raise their voice, the ESA will back out aswell."

Capcom can still be represented by ESA, but take a stand against what the ESA supports. Especially sine the ESA is representing the game publishers. They should do what the publishers want. If the publishers dont support SOPA (and make it clear) then why the hell would the ESA continue to do so?

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orphen446 said on January 5, 2012 at 3:33 p.m.

I think alot of people are over reacting. Capcom is a multi-million dollar business. They are in the business of making money. I think the bills real target are people that are keeping them from accomplishing that goal. I don't think they will be going after streams, going after bloggers , etc. Especially since capcom has been investing and supporting us more in that aspect.

Now, sure it could happen, this bill can turn them into tyrants, but its probably not likely. They will attack those who pirate the game, and if your not one of those people, your gonna be fine.

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tuxjay said on January 5, 2012 at 3:35 p.m.

I will not tolerate this fence-sitting.

Unless Capcom grow a pair I will never buy another game of theirs again.

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AnaboliChris said on January 5, 2012 at 3:40 p.m.

Buy SFxT and you're supporting capcom that supports SOPA that supports the removal of your internet freedom.

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flungdungfar said on January 5, 2012 at 3:42 p.m.

Just like I stated before and what Sven confirmed in this post. They encourage you to upload videos and stream. It's free advertising for them and generates more interest and sales. IF you think Capcom will shut down streamers and youtube uploaders then you are just being paranoid.

And to the people who say they will never support capcom by not buying their products then what is it you plan to do? Pirate the games? LOL. If so then it makes sense why people hate SOPA so much. They wont be able to pirate stuff anymore and god forbid they have to actually PAY the company who made the product. OHHH NOOOOO.

Wait what? Companies are in business to make money? who woulda thunk? /sarcasm

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flungdungfar said on January 5, 2012 at 3:45 p.m.

@27 lmao you make like capcom is the only member of the ESA and that buying a capcom product will end the internet due to SOPA.

your logic is flawed.

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Xykes said on January 5, 2012 at 3:45 p.m.

This is what happens when websites report inaccurate information.

BS spreads like wildfire to the point that the company itself has to step in and correct the BS.

And, then idiots here don't believe the company when it defends itself against the BS, which was inaccurately reported in the first place.

Bottom line...stop singling out Capcom as a SOPA supporter. They have not said they themselves support SOPA, they are simply part of a group that independently decided to support SOPA on its own...just like MANY OTHER VIDEO GAME COMPANIES like Namco, Nintendo, EA, etc, etc, etc.

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AnaboliChris said on January 5, 2012 at 3:46 p.m.

@29, better start at one company to set an example. Better start somewhere than no where. Guess your logic is flawed.

"First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

Something to consider guys. The end of freedom on the internet. This is the first step. Speak out now! Call and send emails now! Let companies know you won't buy their goods and then actually stop buying them. The choice is yours. You can make a difference. "

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2012/ja...

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dunhei said on January 5, 2012 at 3:48 p.m.

Capcom is a member of the ESA. Unless they state otherwise they are represented by the ESA and the ESA supports SOPA.

As stated in another article, I will no longer be buying any Capcom games or watching Capcom games' streams.

This can, in a way, be good for the FGC because maybe it will allow other game companies to get some spotlight, and break down the Capcom monopoly a little bit. That might make them rethink their money grabbing schemes, too.

KOF13, SFV, Persona fighter, HERE I COME!

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dunhei said on January 5, 2012 at 3:49 p.m.

Also I'd like to state that Activision and Blizzard do not support SOPA, but Capcom does.

This makes me rethink the whole Esports debate. At least their games' company isn't stabbing them in the back.

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kakashiisagod said on January 5, 2012 at 3:51 p.m.

Hey Capcom. As the battery on my Macbook dies, while trying to make sense of your candy coated BS I cant help but wonder why your continue to kick yourself in the nuts. This guy seriously needs to stop talking, hes pissing the community off left and right, ala Megaman or anything else which fans vocalize. Twitch.tv switched servers over the SOPA controversy. This issue worries a lot of people. Capcom's damage control methods needs to change. I know Seth is busy, but he does 8.95times better of a job and calming the storm. Wise up Capcom, lots of good games coming next year, many of which wont have gems.

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AnaboliChris said on January 5, 2012 at 3:52 p.m.

Not to mention MLG dropping out of GoDaddy hosting because GD supports SOPA

http://www.slashgear.com/mlg-dropping...

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dunhei said on January 5, 2012 at 3:53 p.m.

Actually apparently Namco is also a member of the ESA so I supposed its only KOF13 and Persona for me. Oh well no big loss.

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EDGEucator said on January 5, 2012 at 3:54 p.m.

@#28
Read #27 , have a seat & reflect in your overly aggressive fail.
@30
What do you expect ? This a mainly Capcom fighting site. I'm sure people don't support other companies , but since this is a Capcom site it makes sense to let their voice be heard in this specific area. (Example:Say Nippon Itchi supports sopa & i go to Rockstar's official site/forum to complain & say I'll never buy another GTA or any other product they manufacture.)
@31
Exactly.

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SSFVAE2020 said on January 5, 2012 at 3:58 p.m.

Capcom needs to take a firm stance against SOPA. SOPA, as the bill stands, is a complete violation of freedom of speech. The government hardly have the power to censor people. Why the heck should the entertainment industry have the right to censor the internet without due process? That's just wrong. No way will I ever support such a bill. CAPCOM, the ball is in your court. You will loose lots of fans b/c of this.

Capcom cannot play ignorance and push the blame on ESA. By default, being part of ESA makes you a conspirator. Game publishers need show that they care about their customers and convince ESA to drop support of SOPA.

Until then, I will not buy anything that supports SOPA. That means no movies, music and/or games from companies that support SOPA. Capcom is on my blacklist.

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Utsusemi said on January 5, 2012 at 3:59 p.m.

"We'll get back to making games. Thanks."

Could be translated to We'll get back to making money now, Thanks.

When I pointed out how Sven acts I got attacked, and now you all see it.

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Ett said on January 5, 2012 at 4 p.m.

@25

No one thinks Capcom is going to every shutting down streams or youtube channels if SOPA passes. Its about the power the bill gives the US government and corporations to control the internet. This is about much bigger issue then capcom games . If we can get Capcom to speak out against SOPA like Epic maybe more ESA members will follow and ESA will drop its support. And many after the ESA others will drop its support.
We have too start somewhere and I chose too NOT buy games/books/movies or use service from SOPA supporters.

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jackpot69 said on January 5, 2012 at 4:03 p.m.

i say, lets jump in the SFxT boycott bandwagon people!!

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AreYouSeriousBro said on January 5, 2012 at 4:08 p.m.

Now correct me if I'm wrong but aren't all these gaming companies somehow a part of the ESA. Like how is saying I won't buy a Capcom game I'll stick to KOFXIII logical?

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flungdungfar said on January 5, 2012 at 4:11 p.m.

LOL all these people frontin like they aint gonna buy anything from capcom and in 2 months they will be the first one at midnight release for SFxT.

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Ett said on January 5, 2012 at 4:12 p.m.

@42 Atlus is owned buy Index Corporation which is not part of the ESA and doesn't Supports SOPA

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flungdungfar said on January 5, 2012 at 4:14 p.m.

#41 go ahead. while u boycott SFxT everyone else will be enjoying the game while your pride and ego gets in the way of just enjoying a video game.

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AreYouSeriousBro said on January 5, 2012 at 4:15 p.m.

@44 Thank you

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AnaboliChris said on January 5, 2012 at 4:20 p.m.

@#45, its not that hard to not buy a game. Unless of course you have no self control boy.

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2012/ja...

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ShinjiMimura said on January 5, 2012 at 4:23 p.m.

Ah, ye olde Internet-dwellers. Every time Christian (and Seth) says anything, it is completely rational and thought-out.

The Internet's response?

"We are ungrateful. We are whiney. Svennson is just trying to distract us. We don't do our research properly.

Sincerely, the entire Fighting Game Community."

Stay free guys

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Graphf said on January 5, 2012 at 4:25 p.m.

corporations don't need any more favors or any more power. Jesus when will people understand?

There are already things in place to stop piracy. Anybody here ever had/seen a youtube video taken down?

How much power do these corporations want over us? When will it end? How far will they go?

As far as we let them.

Write, email, call government, companies and anyone else you can think of. Make YOUR voice heard. It only takes a few mins.

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WorstGiefEVER said on January 5, 2012 at 4:25 p.m.

The story was a joke in the first place, and a paltry attempt at journalism. He basically misquoted capcom and misrepresented them, and it was foolishly repeated on this site. While I'm sure the guys here are not professional journalists and that's fine, the original writer of the story needs a slap in the face.

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AnaboliChris said on January 5, 2012 at 4:26 p.m.

#48 didnt even read the article.

Stay dumb fella and keep supporting bills that removes your rights.

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cab1020 said on January 5, 2012 at 4:27 p.m.

@43 Well SFxT is released on my b-day, so naturally I'm going to get it. DMC HD Collection will be my last purchase of a Capcom game I make if they keep this up.

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m0xsanity said on January 5, 2012 at 4:32 p.m.

I tried to give capcom a chance to give they're side of this whole sh*tstorm... They failed at a solid reply. The evidence is insurmountable saying that streamers like me you "wont be affected" is utter bullsh*t the law states that ANY copyrighted material can be yanked down WHENEVER they want. Now how does that not affect us?. If im misinformed please let me know but for now i hate to say it but i WILL NOT be purchasing a copy of SFxT.

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superray21 said on January 5, 2012 at 4:36 p.m.

SOPA = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C-PUk...

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AnaboliChris said on January 5, 2012 at 4:36 p.m.

#52, You are naturally buying the game because its your birthday ?? -_-

So you're justifying buying the game because its your bday. At least say that you like the game. Just because its your birthday is no excuse. Better to just say that you like the game. What if the game is delayed a day before or a day after making it no longer released on your birth date?

Thats like me saying, hey I will pick up that poo dollar because it appeared on my birthday. Even though its got poo on it, its still a dollar!

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EG2 said on January 5, 2012 at 4:58 p.m.

"Bottom line...stop singling out Capcom as a SOPA supporter. They have not said they themselves support SOPA, they are simply part of a group that independently decided to support SOPA on its own...just like MANY OTHER VIDEO GAME COMPANIES like Namco, Nintendo, EA, etc, etc, etc."

@30 wow. Is this ever an ignorant statement. Capcom is paying to be a part of this organization that is staunchly in favor of this bill as written. They can say whatever they want, but it's meaningless as long as the group they're a part of to represent their interests is pro-SOPA. Their words are meaningless when their actions betray them. Until ANY of these ESA member software companies come out in opposition to the bill, their support of ESA's stance is implicit.

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dunhei said on January 5, 2012 at 4:58 p.m.

LOL @ the generic "you guys are a bunch of whiners be grateful that Capcom allows you to buy their games!" comments.

Also its kinda funny how some of these comments seem to think SFxT is some kind of irresistible game, we all HAVE to buy it. Man that game looks like crap and everyone knows it. Its not going to succeed and something else will take its place as the next big competitive game.

Right now KOF13 is in EVO and is going to be at every 'Road to EVO' major as well as have EVO seeding points. That's plenty of competitive fighting game for me.

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SnakeX said on January 5, 2012 at 5:04 p.m.

Lol, some of these comments. I really wonder how many of you actually know what SOPA is, or if you actually read any of the news post or Sven's statements.

Capcom saying they don't support SOPA would make no difference because they are part of the ESA. If you want a real difference to be made, you need to take your grievances up with the ESA because they are the ones that deal with government side of things. Boycotting a company that is part of the ESA hurts that company, not SOPA. SOPA will not be stopped just because you claim you're going to stop buying Capcom products. That isn't how it works.
There's nearly 3500 companies (many of them representatives like the ESA) that support SOPA. Educate yourselves and look at the big picture if you actually want something done about SOPA. Or you could just continue being the same irrational commenters most of you have always been and not actually do anything at all but spout hate. Your choice.

Also, LOL at AnaboliChris using a poem about NAZIS to make a point about SOPA. Way to break out Godwin's Law, pal. That makes you look reeeeaaaal rational. :|
Glenn Beck would be proud of you.

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Hakansoilbarrel said on January 5, 2012 at 5:11 p.m.

(I told everyone to calm down, but it's too late -

bridges have been burned :(
)

#57
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AnaboliChris said on January 5, 2012 at 5:13 p.m.

#59, I suggest you take your own advice and educate yourself on the subject.

Btw I find that quote very fitting. You would think so too if you knew a thing or two about SOPA.

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phantomprince29 said on January 5, 2012 at 5:14 p.m.

@ 59
i have to cosign ur post..... true words man

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gtfopanda said on January 5, 2012 at 5:20 p.m.

A good read, for those interested

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/...

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Vandal_Vortex said on January 5, 2012 at 5:24 p.m.

I kinda want to see what exactly happens if SOPA passes, might do something about my boredom *shrugs*

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Smorgasboard said on January 5, 2012 at 5:41 p.m.

If you really want to oppose SOPA, write to your politician and get them to oppose it too. They are the ones who ultimately decide whether the Act is passed or not.

Go to www.gamepolitics.com if you're interested in more information.

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roknin said on January 5, 2012 at 5:42 p.m.

Agreed 100% with SnakeX. Boycotting Capcom isn't going to do a damn thing aside from ensure its a lot more difficult for the games we want to be released down the line.

What Sven is saying isn't just lip service, it's how things work.

If you really want to make a difference in all of this, then speak to your representatives, write letters, actually look at the law and get involved. Boycotting Capcom, Nintendo, Sony, etc. won't do a damn thing, even if they were vocal about their support of SOPA (which to my knowledge, they haven't been).

All these boycotts and irrational "yelling" is a waste of energy. Direct that energy at the actual problem.

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THE_GODDAMN_MASTER said on January 5, 2012 at 5:46 p.m.

Is anyone really surprised Capcom doesn't care about their fans? Really?

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kdavis851 said on January 5, 2012 at 5:48 p.m.

@65 and 66

The right idea.

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Crysalim said on January 5, 2012 at 5:48 p.m.

Oh man, I'm sleepy... wait no, it's just that I'm trying to actually read Svensson's monologue.

And lets be honest. The guy does not talk with people, he makes speeches and stands on a box. He has nothing to do with the games that are made at his company and yet he is Capcom's singular voice in America.

He is the reason people call Ono-san a troll. He reprimanded Seth Killian for getting too close to the fans. How did he get the job?

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Osbjorn said on January 5, 2012 at 6:01 p.m.

Why can't you people see the glory of SOPA
Have your eyes been blinded
SOPA is our savior
Praise SOPA

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Batsu said on January 5, 2012 at 6:05 p.m.

Voices on Eventhubs make me sick and only have themselves to blame. Everyone who commented, save for me, are going to turn around and by Capcom's next Street Fighter or Capcom VS/X God Knows What.

Sheep and clowns, the whole lot of you. Things are only going to get worse from here.

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dunhei said on January 5, 2012 at 6:08 p.m.

@59

What is ESA? Its just a bunch of companies coming together to get their say in government. One of those member companies that is standing by and actively funding ESA's activities is Capcom.

The only way you can tell a company you don't like what they are doing is by voting with your $. So I'm going to tell Capcom to change their ways by not buying their games anymore.

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keebler said on January 5, 2012 at 7:18 p.m.

@65 and @66 have the right idea. You know, I agree with most of what Svensson said, but the one thing that i agree with 100% (and anyone who actually pays attention to various sources in the media on a daily basis has seen this, especially if they watch anything about politics), is that bad journalism is incredibly rampant.

One single spokesperson says the ESA represents them on these matters, doesn't give a stance for Capcom themselves, and all the sudden all of these idiotic articles surface, often by people with absolutely no legal credentials. Word spreads like wildfire. I read alot in the political arena (i'm a glutton for punishment), and it is so annoying to have to sift through all of the opinion articles that are trying to masquerade as fact through soundbytes and blurbs and items taken out of context.

As far as Capcom is concerned, they don't have a stance. They aren't legislators. As far as how SOPA would effect them, they would have the power to protect their IPs with a questionable amount of power. The thing is, Capcom has always had the power to stop you from streaming, to stop you from posting fan art, to stop you from making tutorials on how to play games, all of that. Do they? No they haven't. They RARELY step in unless it's blantant piracy or leaking confidential information. Why would Capcom, or any other company in the ESA, care if SOMEONE out there could abuse the power? All they see is that it gives them tools, perhaps too many tools.

Now i understand SOPA is something we should be against, but divert your attention to the groups that matter. Write your congress reps. Hell, write a letter to Capcom with your concerns if you have them. But why the hell would you boycott them?

This happens all of the time in politics. People or groups do things and find scapegoats, the media advances these falsehoods as long as it aligns with their viewer's biases and agenda, and you end up with the masses crying about falsehoods and blaming the wrong people, while the people truly in control work like puppeteers and go unnoticed.

@59

I think you have a misunderstanding of what some of the ESA's actual functions are. It's more than just some lobbyist group. There is a reason the big developers are a part of it. Go read up on it a bit.

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StellarSTLR said on January 5, 2012 at 7:25 p.m.

@flungdungfar

Troll

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ShinjiMimura said on January 5, 2012 at 7:37 p.m.

@51 and anyone else

The bill doesn't remove your rights. Nice research bro.

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keebler said on January 5, 2012 at 7:57 p.m.

@75

Rights are one of those funny things that everyone knows they have some, but many people don't exactly know what they are, and they think someone is always out to take them away, lol.

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irrenmann said on January 5, 2012 at 7:58 p.m.

Wonder who the pirates were causing all the problems? Check out everyone above who is enraged, and there is your answer. Since they already got—months ago—a guarantee from Sven that the passage of this bill won't be allowed to interfere with streaming and such as it exists now for the community, why else would they be so angry?

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Solless said on January 5, 2012 at 7:59 p.m.

One thing I've noticed from just about all these comments and stuff is that they all say that 'SOPA will kill the internet!' or something really close to along those lines.

But I have to honestly ask, does anyone on this site actually have any reasonable idea what the latest build of the bill actually is right now? Quick! Someone contact UltraDavid for legal advice and review!

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Bocom said on January 5, 2012 at 8:08 p.m.

#75, the same could be said to you, "bro".

I've had a problem with Christian's post all day, because it doesn't matter if Capcom won't stop you from streaming and uploading videos, because if the sites you use to do all that disappear, how are you supposed to upload videos and stream at all?

It doesn't matter if Capcom claim to not support SOPA, they are members of the ESA who do support SOPA. By association, they support SOPA. That's a fact.

When Capcom have no stance on it, they are ignoring the issue. Except they do have a stance; the one that ESA has on them.

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ShinjiMimura said on January 5, 2012 at 8:33 p.m.

@79

"because if the sites you use to do all that disappear..."

They won't. Like I mentioned, do your research.

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R4HU1 said on January 5, 2012 at 8:53 p.m.

BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT

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Ada_Love said on January 5, 2012 at 9:06 p.m.

I remember when the only thing political was politicians...
I disagree with the SOPA, but I have no ill-will towards Capcom for being a part of the ESA.
It isn't Capcom's job to have a political point of view.
They make games...nothing more...nothing less.

Them having an opinion is like a Celebrity talking about politics.
In the end...no one really cares what they have to say on the issue.
Let them do their jobs...and be happy they aren't forcing an opinion down your throat.

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SSFVAE2020 said on January 5, 2012 at 9:23 p.m.

#82, you see, that's the problem. ESA and by association, Capcom is trying to meddle with the way the internet works for the worst. I understand that IP holders should protect their work. However, SOPA does so by restricting our rights. IP holders can take down any site without questions asked. NO DUE PROCESS. How is that fair and just? As it stands, SOPA threatens our fundamental rights. Capcom, and many ESA members are supporting SOPA b/c it helps their bottomline, money, at the expensive of civil rights. NO FREAKIN WAY SHOULD THIS BE ALLOWED.
This situation is bigger than the entertainment industry. We need to spread the word. People need to know the kind of power the bill is given to the IP holders.

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jackpot69 said on January 5, 2012 at 9:29 p.m.

#45 yep i go ahead and skip SFxT, just as never buy capcom vs marvel 3 > ultimate and SF4 arcade. But my pride and ego sure to let me enjoy other great games, not by capcom course >.>

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xsickzackx said on January 5, 2012 at 9:43 p.m.

capcom is part of an organization that is supporting a bill that is unconstitutional and more fundamentally=unjust, so therefore capcom is fair game for any and all criticisms or boycotts. wake up and smell the common sense

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xsickzackx said on January 5, 2012 at 9:49 p.m.

furthermore if it doesnt bother you much then cool, step aside. but why would you try to shoot down people who are standing up for their rights? to me everyone in support of the bill should be harshly punished by all of their consumers

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Solless said on January 5, 2012 at 9:53 p.m.

To all those here bashing capcom for being part of the ESA, here's an analogy for you.

Say your boss at your job has a point of view about politics or races or whatever that you seriously don't agree with, but they go ahead and say 'my store' or 'my company believes etc etc'. You can voice your opinion to your fellow employees, others, your employer, but it still so happens that your employer won't change their views or statements. That's pretty much the predicament I see here.

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Solless said on January 5, 2012 at 9:55 p.m.

P.S. and sorry for double post, but I still have not seen anyone respond to whether or not they know the current wording and status of the bill. We all might be basing opinions on a form of the bill that's been rejected.

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RedPantyAddict said on January 5, 2012 at 10:12 p.m.

Not buying SFxT is not a matter of our ego.

You just don't know anything about SOPA. SOPA is a massive threat to anyone. The stupid law is in America, but they get the right to shot down pages with "potential" copyright issued material or "potential" pirated software on it.

Good bye TUMBLR
Good bye Facebook
Good bye Google+
Good bye Youtube
Good bye OtakuCenter
Good bye MegaUpload
Good bye DeviantArt
etc.

And that's not even the worst thing about that bill.

Did you ever hear from that British student who got pulled under the American law and ended up in jail for downloading 24 songs?
Oh well, SOPA will give America or the USA the right to do that more frequently to ANYONE who has a company in their country who is supporting SOPA.

That's just crazy.
Internet censorship is crazy enough, but the right to pull foreign people under your law is... dunno. Can't even describe how irrational that is. xD

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RedPantyAddict said on January 5, 2012 at 10:12 p.m.

Sorry for any mistakes, although English isn't my native language.

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Honda said on January 5, 2012 at 10:14 p.m.

Really?...laydies and gentleman...this SOPA think its not about Copyright and and illegal copys.... Its about control, its about wikileaks...they are, as usual, using a mask to get to the real goal wich is control of any way of freedom for their own interest.

Blocking a web site should be done by judges orders....not by any controlled group of puppets.

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RedPantyAddict said on January 5, 2012 at 10:16 p.m.

That's why I said "potential".

They can take down any page they think has the potential to hurt their copyrighted material.

That's crazy!

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keebler said on January 5, 2012 at 10:47 p.m.

@85

Ugh, i was waiting for someone to throw the "unconstitutional" buzzword into the ring. Feel free to point out what's unconstitutional. I expect that'll you'll actually bother to quote something out of the bill itself and point to what constitutional law it would be breaking?

Unjust...though i'd rather say unjustified, is one thing, and i'd agree. But lets not use unapplicable loaded dialogue to make a point.

All I'm going to say is, for all of you boycotters, you better get ready to boycott the entire videogame industry, along with many major players in cinema and music. Many are involved in either the ESA, or have stated directly that they support it outright.

@84
Why the heck are you even on a Capcom site then? Eventhubs is basically all the games you claim to ignore.

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Bleeble said on January 5, 2012 at 11:33 p.m.

To all the people saying they will not give any more money to capcom, wouldn't buying their games used accomplish the same thing?

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RoggingCamp said on January 6, 2012 at 2:40 a.m.

Someone will have to buy them first. Which is the funny part, because for all the people screaming "boycott!" and moaning about the Gems, the game will still sell well enough. Nobody votes with their wallet.

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Ryu_Apprentice said on January 6, 2012 at 4:44 a.m.

This is why the mayans predict that the world is coming to an end! OH CRAP they didn't see the world as in "earth" they saw SOPA!

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xShonuffx said on January 6, 2012 at 5:12 a.m.

Wow morons, you do realize the SOPA thing is bigger than Capcom right? It has to do with any and every product played and streamed without permission. This goes beyond games especially fighting games. You guys act like Capcom started this.

ESA or not Capcom can't do anything about this. All Capcom is saying is that as far as THEIR games are concerned they won't take action againts their fans and such for recording and streaming their games so long as the content was revealed officialy but that won't stop EA or Sony from taking action for streaming their products without their permission.

Boycotting Capcom is pointless and your efforts would be in vain. Hurting Capcom is not gonna hurt the Bill, if you dislike the bill you have to get off your lazy arses and speak to your congressman or closest representative and bring the concern to them. Collect legal petitions and start from there. Please look at Wisconson and the Union Busting Bill controversy for reference.

Wake up kids, this is'nt about Mega Man not being in UMvC3 this is a issue bigger than that and blaming Capcom is not the answer.

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Ryu_Apprentice said on January 6, 2012 at 5:31 a.m.

Wow I just read d SOPA act and its bull crap, the law is so vague that it means that capcom has to issue licenses for whoever want to stream and u can be busted without capcom knowledge. But Hey this law will do little to curb piracy.

The annoyin part is that a vid of young guys playin cosplay and shoutin "hadoken! Shoryuken" may end up getting jailed.

I hope this law applies to only USA. Sheesh. Oh well it won't stop me from buying games but damn I'm no longer making tutorials if this law gets passed.

And so ends my gaming career. SAY NO TO SOPA!!

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maxs2d2ace said on January 6, 2012 at 7:13 a.m.

ok how are you going to take the word of a company that is known for i dont know......TROLLING!?

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DRain said on January 6, 2012 at 9:17 a.m.

To all the people saying that Capcom won't take down streams and blogs and whatnot, you're probably right. HOWEVER, that doesn't change the fact that, if SOPA passes, streaming and blogging without permission would still be illegal. It's not a matter of being paranoid or being afraid of actual legal action, but that whole idea of big brother constantly watching over you to make sure you don't do anything they don't like.

Not only that, but SOPA gives the government permission for prosecute regardless of whether the copyright holder decides to take legal action.

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mugeninfinity said on January 6, 2012 at 10:16 a.m.

*everyone re-stating the same thing that everyone else has already said*

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dunhei said on January 6, 2012 at 12:24 p.m.

@94
Nobody is blaming Capcom solely for SOPA. But every company out there that supports that bill is a part of the problem. And they are actively seeking to take away Americans rights and also other country's citizen's rights after America pressures everyone into following suit.

You are right its bigger than Capcom. Other companies need to be convinced too. Thats why hundreds of thousands of customers switched from GoDaddy servers after they came out in support of the bill. Then GoDaddy changed their stance to opposing SOPA in order to prevent more customers from leaving.

See? (Some) companies will do whatever is profitable. And if they know screwing their customers over will lose them money, they will start changing their tune.

Not to mention the fact that I have enough self control to not support some corporation who is actively seeking to do me harm. That's just stupid and pathetic.

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WARGROUND_COOK said on January 6, 2012 at 3:37 p.m.

The Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA), also known as H.R. 3261, is a bill that was introduced in the United States House of Representatives on October 26, 2011, by Representative Lamar Smith (R-TX) and a bipartisan group of 12 initial co-sponsors. The bill expands the ability of U.S. law enforcement and copyright holders to fight online trafficking in copyrighted intellectual property and counterfeit goods.[2] Now before the House Judiciary Committee, it builds on the similar PRO-IP Act of 2008 and the corresponding Senate bill, the PROTECT IP Act.[3]

The originally proposed bill would allow the U.S. Department of Justice, as well as copyright holders, to seek court orders against websites accused of enabling or facilitating copyright infringement. Depending on who requests the court orders, the actions could include barring online advertising networks and payment facilitators such as PayPal from doing business with the allegedly infringing website, barring search engines from linking to such sites, and requiring Internet service providers to block access to such sites. The bill would make unauthorized streaming of copyrighted content a crime, with a maximum penalty of five years in prison for 10 pieces of music or movies within six months. The bill also gives immunity to Internet services that voluntarily take action against websites dedicated to infringement, while making liable for damages any copyright holder who knowingly misrepresents that a website is dedicated to infringement

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