In an email to Digital Trends, Capcom USA confirmed that they support the 'Stop Online Piracy Act.' If you don't know what SOPA is, you can refer to another Digital Trends article where Sony, EA and Nintendo drop their support of this legislation.
Capcom USA has confirmed with Digital Trends that it supports the contentious Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA). Nintendo, Sony, EA, and other members of the pro-SOPA Entertainment Software Association have so far remained silent on the issue.
Capcom USA supports the controversial ‘Stop Online Piracy Act,’ better known as SOPA, Digital Trends has confirmed. The endorsement verification follows a flurry of confusion surrounding support of the bill from other major game developers, including Nintendo, Sony Computer Entertainment America, Sony Online Entertainment and Electronic Arts.
Capcom, Nintendo, Sony, EA and 29 other game manufacturers are members of The Entertainment Software Association (ESA), a Washington D.C.-based advocacy group that regularly lobbies Congress on behalf of its members. The ESA has endorsed the bill, and appears on the House Judiciary Committee’s official list of SOPA supporters.
Last week, Business Insider erroneously reported that Nintendo, Sony and EA had quietly rescinded support of SOPA — a detail that Digital Trends, and hundreds of other publications repeated. The BI report was based on the fact that their names did not appear on an updated version of the Judiciary Committee’s official list of supporters. The problem is that their names never appeared on that list — only the ESA did — making their removal impossible.
For the full article check it out over on Digital Trends.
Capcom's Christian Svensson replied to a question about his thoughts on on a previous, similar bill titled S.978 on the Capcom-Unity forums.
Tip submitted by metalmusicman, Mazroth, Saxwolf, ferro and some anonymous submitters.
Posted by ZOMBIEMEGAMAN on January 4, 2012 at 2:24 p.m. #1
Capcom is on a roll for pissing of its fans. Stocks have dropped and they're losing money but they keep trolling.
Posted by ve12sus on January 4, 2012 at 2:26 p.m. #2
This is terrible. I'm a huge Capcom fan and now I can't buy anything of theirs. SOPA is no joke folks.
Posted by Oroku_Saki on January 4, 2012 at 2:26 p.m. #3
Time to send some more e-mails.
Already been sending them to the other ESA members.
SOPA is a piece of crap law.
Posted by houtori on January 4, 2012 at 2:30 p.m. #4
CAPCOM STOP IT PLEASE. SOPA will totally kill the internet. I cannot even believe they think its a good idea. Just because SF4 got pirated sooo much on PC they think they should support this retarded act? There is plenty of other ways to stop piracy. Not SOPA. SOPA will kill thousands of sites! maybe even ones like event hubs! :O oh and just so capcom knows. If it were not for SF4 being free for PC. I never would have gotten hooked on this game in the first place, never would have bought my arcade sticks(2), or my copies of SFIII(2), SF4(4), fightpads(2), and all the merchandise I now own. If anything, easy access to that game only got capcom more money! I wish they would understand that. ALso, I know that is not the only reason they support SOPA, I'm just trying to make a point.
Posted by raven8200 on January 4, 2012 at 2:32 p.m. #5
is anyone really surprised by this? especially after the drm capcom loves to put in its downloadable games, on disk dlc
Posted by GokaiGreen on January 4, 2012 at 2:33 p.m. #6
Welcome to China # 2
Assisted by Capcom
Posted by LxCx on January 4, 2012 at 2:34 p.m. #7
Piracy is a problem, but SOPA sure as hell isn't the answer. There are much better alternatives to protect your IP than giving corporations control over what sites are allowed to exist.
Posted by Armourx on January 4, 2012 at 2:35 p.m. #8
Kind of funny, just this week bandai stopped their anime in the US (or something to that effect) because of online pracy. Hmm
Posted by xsickzackx on January 4, 2012 at 2:37 p.m. #9
i just tweeted ono. ha i dont know what else to do but this is some bull%%%% we should give hell to every company who has supported this tyrannical legislation
Posted by ItsMahveIBaby on January 4, 2012 at 2:37 p.m. #10
First Megaman, now this? Capcom is itchin for bankruptcy.
Posted by JDragonX on January 4, 2012 at 2:37 p.m. #11
Let's not forget that CAPCOM is a major corporation. A successful one at that. Of all the markets, the gaming market was the only one to not sink with the economy and instead floated above the rest.
This is not a surprise for me and SHOULD not be a surprise for you all. As much as I love their games, I can't say that I LOVE CAPCOM. Their interest is in their wallet.
SOPA sucks dick.
Posted by BestAlgorithm on January 4, 2012 at 2:38 p.m. #12
I'm just gonna wait a week and buy SFxT used. No biggie.
Posted by RedCyclone on January 4, 2012 at 2:38 p.m. #13
This is awful, we should boycott SFxT in protest.
Or if we really want to stick it to them, boycott a game people want to buy.
Seriously though, Capcom should be ashamed of themselves.
Posted by 3DJr on January 4, 2012 at 2:40 p.m. #14
I dont understand why Capcom would support it at all. The growth of the Capcom fighting community owes most of its efforts from streaming and video uploads.
Box, Cross Counter and Machinima would not have had a chance to get of the ground if SOPA was in effect back in the day. Future entertainment will be drastically handicaped if Capcom gets their way.
I didnt think Capcom would be this nearsighted, especially after commissoning Maxamillion to do his assist me videos for the UMVC3 new characters.
So stupid...
Posted by SAMURAI on January 4, 2012 at 2:46 p.m. #15
I'm afraid my English is not good enough for this. I don't understand this.
Posted by darkneji on January 4, 2012 at 2:48 p.m. #16
It's unfortunate that capcom supports sopa, however I can't say that it's all too surprising to hear considering the sheer amount of piracy occurring in the gaming market.
Hopefully the outrage that is sure to come from disgruntled fans and supporters (or ex-supporters) will get capcom to rethink their position on the bill.
Despite my disappointment on capcom's stance on sopa, they still make good games and unfortunately I still want to buy them which will support them even though they aren't supporting us.
Posted by h1tm0nl33 on January 4, 2012 at 2:49 p.m. #17
I guess they REALLY don't need our money all that bad.
Posted by TheFluffyBunny on January 4, 2012 at 2:51 p.m. #18
The reason why other ESA companies remain silent is because it's the smart thing to do. Capcom and the other three are the type of companies who welcome bad press days with open arms.
Well, at least we know where they stand on the issue, and that they are perfectly willing to piss off a large number of people who don't pirate their games if it means possibly making a few more dollars.
It comes off a bit hypocritical, considering how Capcom releases a full-priced beta for a game only to release the "real" game 9 months later. Capcom would be quick to tell you that they hate being robbed, and yet they seem to think their consumers love it.
Posted by Jedda678 on January 4, 2012 at 2:52 p.m. #19
America is so stupid right now. Congress and other government officials don't listen to us anymore. They only are concerned about special interests groups who shell out the big bucks to get their attention. What's worse is that with the big election up this year you think they'd find ways to push this off or even edit it to appease us voters. They can get all the money they want, but they won't be in office again if they don't keep us happy.
Posted by DestinyZX1 on January 4, 2012 at 2:53 p.m. #20
One more bad move that CAPCOM has done... and it's a really bad move to boot.
Posted by TheDoK666 on January 4, 2012 at 2:53 p.m. #21
capcom supporting SOPA? let's boycott them!
Posted by NINJA on January 4, 2012 at 2:54 p.m. #22
How can a company as experienced and as historic as Capcom support this bullsh-t. I bet this was some random suit there that decided this for himself.
Can't believe this.
Posted by Skeez on January 4, 2012 at 2:55 p.m. #23
The irony is that studies have been done that show that piracy does next to no harm. In fact, in some cases, pirates actually HELP a company make more money.
To put so much effort into SOPA would seem pretty counter intuitive.
Posted by DarknessFallz on January 4, 2012 at 2:57 p.m. #24
I'm not surprised by this considering Capcom has become a super money grubbing company. SOPA and the NDAA are such absurd affronts to the constitution its baffling.
Posted by error3 on January 4, 2012 at 2:57 p.m. #25
canceled SFxT pre order
Posted by SHOGUN on January 4, 2012 at 2:58 p.m. #26
Well since Obama already signed the bill for National Defense Authorization Act to be passed, it's more than likely this BS act is going to get passed too down the line. F*ckin lobbyists.
Posted by SAMURAI on January 4, 2012 at 2:59 p.m. #27
Can someone explain in simple words what is going on? Why is this so bad? I really don't understand anything from this article.
Posted by VanZan on January 4, 2012 at 3:02 p.m. #28
In the past i bought Capcom games.
Now i will pirate them.
Good job Capcom.
Posted by PokPok on January 4, 2012 at 3:02 p.m. #29
Jesus what the hell are they doing?! SOPA will kill the internet also Anonymous can get behind their asses pretty quickly
Posted by Redrapper on January 4, 2012 at 3:02 p.m. #30
In an email with Digital Trends, a spokeswoman for Capcom said only that, “The ESA represents us on these matters.”
In an email with Digital Trends, a spokeswoman for Capcom said only that, “The ESA represents us on these matters.”
In an email with Digital Trends, a spokeswoman for Capcom said only that, “The ESA represents us on these matters.”
^^ This is the extent of said e-mail that allegedly says Capcom blindly supports SOPA. They're response essentially is: Deal with the firm, not us. FYI, you should probably read the rest of the article, like the giant thing Christian Svennson wrote in regards to the anti streaming bill-- like him giving us click through licenses which would enable us to stream.
Posted by SHOGUN on January 4, 2012 at 3:04 p.m. #31
@27
In a nutshell, it could mean streams as we know them now or the archives we watch them on, on youtube or any other video containing copyrighted material, could cease to exist
Posted by GokaiGreen on January 4, 2012 at 3:06 p.m. #32
The end of the world isnt looking so bad now is it?
Posted by Ett on January 4, 2012 at 3:09 p.m. #33
As far as I know Atlus doesn´t support SOPA. Please Switch too KOFXIII.
Posted by akumous on January 4, 2012 at 3:12 p.m. #34
I am not the least surprised and no one should be since Capcom went crazy over the premature release of Oni and Evil ryu and demanded the arcades to take them off. Companies, like Capcom, just want to control the internet and have us paying for everything.
The internet should be free because it educates us and create massive awareness. There is no clear solution to piracy and they probably will never will...companies should offer great value to their customers and stop with this DRM crap because it undermines the "paying customers."
Posted by SubhumanX on January 4, 2012 at 3:12 p.m. #35
This makes me Sad.
Posted by LxCx on January 4, 2012 at 3:12 p.m. #36
@30
Regardless of how Capcom may assist us in terms of keeping us safe from issues with THEIR products, supporting SOPA in general is a very bad thing.
SOPA would affect much more than just my SF game, thank you very much.
Posted by J on January 4, 2012 at 3:13 p.m. #37
Not buying a single Capcom product until they change their stance on this.
Posted by GokaiGreen on January 4, 2012 at 3:17 p.m. #38
LMFAO!!
U actually thought Capcom thought differently!?
HAHAHA!
Posted by AnaboliChris on January 4, 2012 at 3:18 p.m. #39
SOPA and NDAA are both very scary. I suggest everyone to keep an eye out for these two and keep up to date. NDAA years after years has been becoming more of a reality.
Both will take YOUR rights away. So much for living in the land of the free.
Posted by Gamogo on January 4, 2012 at 3:23 p.m. #40
lol Capcom. Merge with EA and get it over with.
Posted by Anomaly on January 4, 2012 at 3:24 p.m. #41
@27
"Stop Online Piracy Act" might sound like something for good intentions, but it's actually a bill that would give the government the power to censor anything on the internet without trial. So they can take down any website, video, or image that they don't agree with. This would give them control over the biggest outlet for the flow of information, which is a pretty scary thought.
Posted by SAMURAI on January 4, 2012 at 3:30 p.m. #42
@ 31 & 41
Thanks guys.
Streams, archives and even youtube replays could be forbidden? Damn, that sucks.
Posted by FightThePower on January 4, 2012 at 3:35 p.m. #43
I want to say something to you all but it's a waste of my time it really is so good luck crying like 3 year olds that all I got to say sadly and don't say I'm defending SOPA because I'm not if you do BURN IN HELL yes I mean it.
Posted by YUENNN on January 4, 2012 at 3:37 p.m. #44
Major League Gaming removed themselves off of GoDaddy's servers because they support SOPA. By Capcom "agreeing" with this act, what does this say for this site, Gamebattles and SRK?
This type of crap is something from a bad nightmare.
Posted by efehs on January 4, 2012 at 3:38 p.m. #45
screw capcom, I'm buying Mortal Kombat
Posted by ShadowoftheDarkgod on January 4, 2012 at 3:39 p.m. #46
Sons
Of the
Patriots
Act
Times has changed...
Posted by Gamogo on January 4, 2012 at 3:39 p.m. #47
SOPA seems to me wholly unconstitutional in the United States. The idea of this actually being passed strikes me as pretty remote to be honest, no matter how many big players stamp their feet and argue for the continuation of dated and archaic business and distribution models.
For this to even be enacted suggests a pretty big shake-up is coming in the form of amendments and so on. It also seems to be a very caged-in concept, which will mote in US-centric internet activity (and all the media and so on that comes with it) big time. Sounds to me like a gigantic pain in the ass and definitely goes against a lot of the USA's founding principles.
That's not to say there isn't some serious issues pertaining to copyright theft and so on online, but I think this needs a much more thorough dialogue before these knee-jerk sledge-hammer policies get pitched at a clearly ignorant congress and an equally confused general public.
Posted by FightThePower on January 4, 2012 at 3:42 p.m. #48
@GokaiGreen Stop Trying to be funny it makes you look stupid
@32 Good to know you suck dick :) even thought I love Atlas and that game I don't suck dick just saying sorry NOW I'm done.
Posted by bagumain on January 4, 2012 at 3:43 p.m. #49
Just canceled my preorder for the collector's edition of SFxTekken. I'll be pirating the game now, Capcom (not joking, promise). Nice work! I'll also be pirating all other major Capcom releases, including Resident Evil: Raccoon City, as well as ones I never intended to play otherwise (Asura's Wrath).
If Capcom cared about its fans, they would pressure the ESA to stop supporting SOPA. But, in reality, they actually don't care for much more than the money--they'll pretend to care about the fans when it's convenient and is easy PR, but apart from that, when it comes to something major, forget about it.
Posted by AnaboliChris on January 4, 2012 at 3:44 p.m. #50
Vote with your wallets everyone. You'll have to put aside that precious game and think about the future. Dont support a company(ies) that will essentially take away our rights if SOPA and/or NDAA pass.
Buying a game(s) and supporting a company that wants to remove your rights is wrong.
I know it isnt easy but keep in mind whats more important:
A game that will temporarily fill your want
or your internet rights.
Posted by SAMURAI on January 4, 2012 at 3:51 p.m. #51
The problem is that Capcom can do whatever it wants. They release MvC3, everyone buys it, a few months later they release UMvC3 and guess what? Everyone buys it.
Same with SFxT. No one wanted those gems. But Capcom knows they'll make money with those gems. And everyone WILL buy that game and all the downloadable gems.
I'm boycotting that game. I only buy Street Fighter.
Posted by Stitchlink on January 4, 2012 at 3:52 p.m. #52
Looks like I'm going to KOF. F-ck Capcom
Posted by Youone on January 4, 2012 at 3:55 p.m. #53
Everyone posted is a retard, Capcom is a member of ESA (ENTERTAINMENT SOFTWARE ASSOCIATION) they are the ones who are supporting SOPA.
Posted by Goiko84 on January 4, 2012 at 3:59 p.m. #54
Theyre doing this cause some people are trying to sell game footage like those fools at cross counter they should go after them
Posted by GokaiGreen on January 4, 2012 at 3:59 p.m. #55
If you want to sign a petition to VETO (Stop) SOPA from stealing our privacy and our beloved sites.
You can sign HERE -> https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions...
Just sign up for an account in one minute and hit the green button in the middle of the page.
Posted by bananainsaneface on January 4, 2012 at 4 p.m. #56
"The problem is that Capcom can do whatever it wants. They release MvC3, everyone buys it, a few months later they release UMvC3 and guess what? Everyone buys it. "
UMvC3 did horrible in sales. Not everyone will buy their BS.
Posted by AnaboliChris on January 4, 2012 at 4:02 p.m. #57
SAMURAI, it really isnt that hard to boycott a game when something doesnt please you.
I've been a long time fan of SOCOM from ps2 days bought all from Socom 1 to Confrontation on Ps3. The recent Socom 4 game was total garbage and stole a lot of mindless game elements from CoD series which did not please me.
Result was: I never bought the game even though I was a Socom fan. Though I will look forward to Socom 5 if announced and if a lot of game issues has been addressed.
Point is, its not that hard to not buy a game! You are not missing out on anything! Dont feel like your missing out if you dont buy SFxT. If you dont like it, dont be forced to buy it just because the majority might buy it or pros will be buying it.
The pro players will def buy it because they compete and make money playing video games. Dont let them influence you.
Posted by neon6 on January 4, 2012 at 4:03 p.m. #58
Copyright holders already can prosecute people who are using their IP's without their permission, this law just makes it so the copyright holders have a little bit more backbone in case. The way I look at the law is, if you aren't hosting the master server of a pirate site like TPB or Kickasstorrents or anything like that, then what do you have to worry about? The law only effects people who *HOST* the actual pirate sites.
Posted by neon6 on January 4, 2012 at 4:06 p.m. #59
The government is not going to kick in your door if you're hosting the master server of some big name pirate site, you'll just get sued for X amount of dollars by company X and the U.S. government will just get a court order against the website/s and shut down the site and it's financial activities. But you're turning this into this big authoritarian conspiracy where children get thrown in the slammer for doing a playthrough of Mario, and that's just complete and utter hogwash. You're either a shameless liar or an imbecile with a big mouth.
Posted by Vandal_Vortex on January 4, 2012 at 4:06 p.m. #60
when I get a better pc, I'm most likely going to pirate because 1. I'm not wasting any money on something potentially sh*t like asura's wrath and dmc
Posted by Vandal_Vortex on January 4, 2012 at 4:07 p.m. #61
and 2. I don't like wasting money in general
Posted by ilitirit on January 4, 2012 at 4:11 p.m. #62
I just logged in to say fck Capcom USA.
Posted by kakashiisagod on January 4, 2012 at 4:15 p.m. #63
Megaman doesn't support SOPA, look what happened to him. But seriously, many of the corporations mentioned are control freaks and they put Dlc on the disc. The viral marketing that places like Youtube and twitter have given these companies can and will be destroyed by SOPA . They will only hurt themselves by supporting this bill. If your on the fence about this bill read up on it, its scary stuff.
Posted by AnaboliChris on January 4, 2012 at 4:16 p.m. #64
"Megaman doesn't support SOPA, look what happened to him."
Lol'd, cheers.
Posted by EnsignHiro on January 4, 2012 at 4:16 p.m. #65
capcom is so stupid why support something that will in the end make them lose even MORE MONEY?! seriously at least Sony who got hacked a bunch of times and nintendo who also got hacked last year stopped supporting SOPA. honestly i highly doubt the bill will pass and even if it does expect many anti sopa like methods to surface the internet. I can tolerate the trolling they do to hype games and all but this time i really disagree entirely with them supporting SOPA. its ok to add ways to stop piracy by adding anti piracy ways on your game disks and what not but when you try censoring the internet your going too far as NOBODY owns the internet!
Posted by EG2 on January 4, 2012 at 4:19 p.m. #66
"Everyone posted is a retard, Capcom is a member of ESA (ENTERTAINMENT SOFTWARE ASSOCIATION) they are the ones who are supporting SOPA."
Sorry, but you are. You said it yourself. They are a member of the organization that supports it. That's all there is to know. Until they drop membership, ESA represents their voice, and ESA is in favor of SOPA. If they're against SOPA, they're more than welcome to drop out. Until they do, their support is implicit by being a member.
Posted by hey on January 4, 2012 at 4:20 p.m. #67
Not okay. At all.
#59 - You obviously haven't read the bill. It's not about legally going after piracy. It's about giving media companies the ability to wipe domain names off the map by merely making a copyright claim against, with no due process or ability to respond. In other words, someone in these comments could merely link to copyrighted material and that could be used to delete the eventhubs.com domain from the record so people are unable to access it unless they know the server ip directly.
Posted by bahamutknightzero on January 4, 2012 at 4:21 p.m. #68
Out of all these posts, #53 is the only one that seems to know what the hell is going on.
To everyone else, READ CAREFULLY!
Posted by BloodyNights on January 4, 2012 at 4:23 p.m. #69
I also logged in to say F*#k Capcom USA
Posted by bahamutknightzero on January 4, 2012 at 4:23 p.m. #70
#66 Way to be mature there. It's not as easy as breaking off from the ESA.
Posted by lorcraven on January 4, 2012 at 4:28 p.m. #71
lol ironically i am now tempted to start pirating and sticking to pre owned capcom games now out of spite, but yes im sure as many people have already mentioned, piracy is bad, SOPA is worse, and will not affect piracy that much, pirates will just have to work a little harder, piratebay isn't the only source of illegal software you know.
To recap, pirates not too worried bout SOPA, legitimate buisness and the general public are afraid of it, real backwards goverment we have.
Posted by Hakansoilbarrel on January 4, 2012 at 4:29 p.m. #72
(Woah, woah, woah kids. Some people said they're never supporting capcom again, or going to pirate, or going to switch companies. Slow your roll and give Capcom a proper chance to respond.
PS: I'm clueless, summaries would be nice....)
Posted by AnaboliChris on January 4, 2012 at 4:34 p.m. #73
SOPA's real intent is to control the internet. Its secondary resulting effect is removing piracy.
Posted by SaitoKojima on January 4, 2012 at 4:36 p.m. #74
I guess SFxT and Resident Evil: Revelations on 3DS will be my last purchases towards this company, for sure now.
Unless they truly revive the Megaman franchise, those two games are the only thing this company has left, in my eyes. Cause we sure as hell aren't getting any new Ace Attorney, Monster Hunter, Rival Schools or an actually GOOD DarkStalkers any time soon. (We all know that the new DarkStalkers is gonna be just as flawed as these past few fighters Capcom's been making. And heck, I'm only getting SFxT because I am using it as their final chance before I say "Forget this company" and move on to better stuff for good like KOF.)
inb4kofsuckzcomments
Posted by SuperStraightFighter on January 4, 2012 at 4:39 p.m. #75
@53, @70
ESA also listed EA and Sony Entertainment as members on their site but the two companies droped support for SOPA act, can you explain whats going on there because I really dont understand?
Posted by Beta8 on January 4, 2012 at 4:39 p.m. #76
I just canceled my preorder for Steet Fighter X Tekken...
Posted by Phynx on January 4, 2012 at 4:41 p.m. #77
EA, Sony and Nintendo have all backed off from supporting SOPA, contrary to the post.
http://www.electronista.com/articles/...
Posted by SuperStraightFighter on January 4, 2012 at 4:43 p.m. #78
Also Nintendo is part of ESA but they droped out of support for SOPA as well, so Capcom's support for SOPA solely because they are part of the ESA doesnt make sense to me.
Posted by Alfrebaut on January 4, 2012 at 4:44 p.m. #79
Welp, I guess it's time to learn KOF.
Posted by SuperStraightFighter on January 4, 2012 at 4:46 p.m. #80
@Neon6
You really need to do some research about this bill, it has a greater effect to the internet than you thought.
Posted by Bleeble on January 4, 2012 at 4:46 p.m. #81
As much as I love capcom they have just been screwing up major lately.
Posted by Graphf on January 4, 2012 at 4:47 p.m. #82
First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.
Something to consider guys. The end of freedom on the internet. This is the first step. Speak out now! Call and send emails now! Let companies know you won't buy their goods and then actually stop buying them. The choice is yours. You can make a difference.
Posted by SuperStraightFighter on January 4, 2012 at 4:50 p.m. #83
I personally would not purchase future Capcom products including sf x tekken until they stop supporting this bill, I however will enjoy the stuff I already purchased like sf4.
Posted by Chronoless on January 4, 2012 at 4:52 p.m. #84
I think Capcom thinks that supporting this bill will allow them to gain more money because they didn't make enough money when they release patched games, because people would just download them instead. Well I think Capcom just need to learn to use DLC or finish games instead of giving their fans a haft ass not completed game in the first place.
Posted by LxCx on January 4, 2012 at 4:58 p.m. #85
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJIuYg... i'll just leave this here.
Posted by Mistermind on January 4, 2012 at 4:59 p.m. #86
Capcom is a corporation, and as any other corporation in the entertainment industry, they will support SOPA. This will be a huge battle between corporations and users. Here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HriNzs...
TotalBiscuit opinion will clarify any doubts you still might have.
Posted by TomBadguy on January 4, 2012 at 5:11 p.m. #87
Boo Capcom! This really disappoints me. I'm like half tempted to stop playing Capcom. Damn, what a drag.
Posted by SAMURAI on January 4, 2012 at 5:15 p.m. #88
Let's support SNK and ask for
Posted by SAMURAI on January 4, 2012 at 5:16 p.m. #89
Let's support SNK and ask for a new Samurai Shodown in 2D.
Posted by jtir123 on January 4, 2012 at 5:25 p.m. #90
Bad move.
I am disappointed.
Posted by EG2 on January 4, 2012 at 5:53 p.m. #91
"Boo Capcom! This really disappoints me. I'm like half tempted to stop playing Capcom. Damn, what a drag."
Hal-tempted? Sounds like you'll show 'em.
Seriously, read up on this bill before blowing this off. It's actually very alarming.
Posted by HellaDarknEvil on January 4, 2012 at 5:56 p.m. #92
Other well known companies that are members of the ESA are:
Disney Interactive Studios, Inc.
Eidos Interactive
Electronic Arts
Epic Games, Inc.
Konami Digital Entertainment
Microsoft Corporation
Namco Bandai Games America Inc.
Natsume Inc.
Nintendo of America Inc.
SEGA of America, Inc.
Square Enix, Inc.
Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc.
Tecmo Koei America Corporation
THQ, Inc.
Ubisoft Entertainment, Inc.
Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment Inc.
Just Capcom though right?
Posted by JEABOI on January 4, 2012 at 6 p.m. #93
Actually, EA, Sony, and Nintendo withdrew support.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/...
Let's hope all other game companies withdraw too. I couldn't care less about Capcom to be honest and they would be easy to boycott, their games have been lackluster as of late and the only Capcom game I'm excited about is a collection of 3 older PS2 games that I've beaten before.
Posted by kazukifafner on January 4, 2012 at 6:08 p.m. #94
@92
1) Capcom is getting attention at this moment because they confirmed their support recently. It's got nothing to do with other companies, so there is no reason to bring them up.
2) Capcom is getting attention because they specifically confirmed that they support SOPA. Other companies that are a part of the same organization may have either withdrawn support or have simply remained silent on the issue.
Posted by HellaDarknEvil on January 4, 2012 at 6:09 p.m. #95
Sony, EA and Nintendo are still members of the ESA, therefore they still support SOPA.
Posted by HellaDarknEvil on January 4, 2012 at 6:12 p.m. #96
In an email with Digital Trends, a spokeswoman for Capcom said only that, “The ESA represents us on these matters.”
That's confirmation? lol
Posted by kazukifafner on January 4, 2012 at 6:15 p.m. #97
@95
Incorrect. The are a part of an association that, at present, supports SOPA as a whole.
However, that does not mean that all entities that make up the association will support the measure. In fact, the more companies that do withdraw support of SOPA, the higher the likelihood that ESA will as well.
An association is made up of companies. The companies involved do have power, especially if many of them (especially big companies) are in agreement on an issue.
Posted by kazukifafner on January 4, 2012 at 6:18 p.m. #98
@96
Not only is that confirmation. That is irrefutable confirmation, unless that Capcom claims that the spokeswoman no longer represents them.
The ESA's current stance, as a whole, is that it supports SOPA. For Capcom to say that "ESA represents us on these matters" means that they support SOPA.
Posted by Southeasternoil on January 4, 2012 at 6:20 p.m. #99
Capcom I am disappoint. Back out of ESA unless you want someone get Ultradavid to write the flaws and stupidity of the Bill. No where in the Bill did they mention any long-lasting solution (and by long-lasting I mean more than a week at best) to its original intention of eliminating piracy and copyright infringement. If anything, it is counter-intuitive, counter-productive and will also f*ck up the rest of the world.
Posted by dietsunkists2 on January 4, 2012 at 6:23 p.m. #100
i don't understand the people who say they'll be pirating capcom games because capcom supports sopa. isn't this why major content developers are supporting sopa to begin with? LOL
Posted by kdavis851 on January 4, 2012 at 6:27 p.m. #101
@96
That sounds like a PR statement to me. One of those "we cannot confirm nor deny..." type deals. Doesn't sound like a confirmation to me.
But, until Capcom holds up a giant neon sign saying "We do not support SOPA!!" in size 467 Helvetica font, people will think they support it. Which is a reasonable stance to take, I guess.
Posted by spotlesseden on January 4, 2012 at 6:56 p.m. #102
it doesn't matter to me since i don't download illegal games, movies or music.
Posted by yamazaki on January 4, 2012 at 7:01 p.m. #103
@102 please do the knowledge...
Posted by spotlesseden on January 4, 2012 at 7:02 p.m. #104
please, tell me why this matter to me? i read the entire thing last month. nothing has to do with me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Onl...
Posted by EDGEucator on January 4, 2012 at 7:05 p.m. #105
Capcom supports SOPA. Lets see how many Capcom fanboys , retards , kids , jacka**'s & trolls try to defend them this time.
Posted by yamazaki on January 4, 2012 at 7:06 p.m. #106
do you also think cctv is ok because you're not doing anything illegal?
Posted by icejohn on January 4, 2012 at 7:06 p.m. #107
wow no capcom fanboys defending this BS!? clearly capcom has finally cross the unforgivable line.
FIGHT THE POWER!
Posted by spotlesseden on January 4, 2012 at 7:08 p.m. #108
i don't know what's cctv. so CCTV has nothing to do with me.
Posted by AnaboliChris on January 4, 2012 at 7:11 p.m. #109
spotlesseden, if SOPA passes it will affect everyone including yourself.
It'll affect people that does not pirate anything as well. It'll change how internet is accessed in the U.S.
Posted by kazukifafner on January 4, 2012 at 7:12 p.m. #110
@104
Then clearly you did not think about it carefully enough. That act gives corporations the power to block, suspend, outright remove anything related to their media (since the act is no where near well-defined enough to limit their authority whatsoever). So much as a three-second clip could get an entire video shot down. Want to see a video review of something? Only those "determined to not be infringing" (I'll give you a wild guess as to what that would imply) will be accessible.
In essence, it would actually do very little to stop piracy, and it would also allow corporations to (in effect) censor the internet.
Posted by RyuForever on January 4, 2012 at 7:13 p.m. #111
"In an email with Digital Trends, a spokeswoman for Capcom said only that, “The ESA represents us on these matters.”"
I don't see how that's confirmation of them supporting SOPA.That just basically means that they aren't supporting them from a viewpoint and that they are getting dragged in by ESA themselves.
Posted by maxs2d2ace on January 4, 2012 at 7:13 p.m. #112
ok i just logged in to say...F@@K THIS!
everytime i think capcom is cool they go and some stupid sh^t like this. i dont care if this is a busines. this is America and you dont F@@k with the people. espically your own Fans.
i swear the goverment just trys to control the people >__>
Posted by spotlesseden on January 4, 2012 at 7:15 p.m. #113
how it will affect? as long as still have access to all my websites, and i don't have to pay more then i'm good. If not then, it sucks. But i still don't see how it affect me that much. maybe harder to find porn?
Posted by kazukifafner on January 4, 2012 at 7:16 p.m. #114
@111
No, it means that they support SOPA.
It's business lingo, designed to make it sound less like a stance than it truly is.
>ESA supports SOPA
>Capcom has acknowledged that, on this issue, ESA represents their views
>Capcom supports SOPA
Posted by AnaboliChris on January 4, 2012 at 7:18 p.m. #115
spotlesseden, as someone mentioned above, sites like Eventhubs could be removed since it has videos/pictures/..ect of Capcom games.
If you think you have freedom on the internet now, if SOPA passes, your so called internet freedom will be removed. The internet in the U.S will be policed so to say.
Posted by BlueHadou on January 4, 2012 at 7:21 p.m. #116
they losing their artist, now they're losing their fans..... good job capcom.
I even hear Ryu said "SUREYOUCAN'T" when i'm writing this -.-
Posted by icejohn on January 4, 2012 at 7:21 p.m. #117
ok to people that dont no what sopa is heres a couple of videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t74Bzy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhwuXN...
Posted by spotlesseden on January 4, 2012 at 7:23 p.m. #118
well, that's bad. but there is nothing I can do about it. I will deal with it when whatever happen in the future. this is not something that I can control. I will still not buy SF X Tekken, but for different reason. I buy good games that i want.
I really don't think policed the Internet is a bad thing. They just need to find a good way to punish people who update and download illegal stuffs.
At the end, I think It will work out. laws don't get pass in 1 day, they will make alot of changes before anything is set.
Posted by AnaboliChris on January 4, 2012 at 7:25 p.m. #119
spotlesseden, this is for you
#82
So you're ready to follow the herd?
Posted by yamazaki on January 4, 2012 at 7:28 p.m. #120
seriously i can't tell if homie is just trying to troll?
Posted by DontTaseMeBro on January 4, 2012 at 7:53 p.m. #121
How to anger and alienate your fans to the max?
Cancel Mega Man Legends 3
Cancel Mega Man Universe
Support SOPA
Make you pay for DLC that is already on the disc.
Completly kill Mega Man and troll us with Zero being X when he's not.. and don't forget Frank West too.
Make us pay 40 dollars for the complete editions of Super Street Fighter IV and Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3, when we paid 60 a piece for the unfinished versions.
Have pre-ordered Gems, Gems you can buy over the marketplace to make your characters stronger? What the hell? I didn't know this was EA Sports NHL Series. So in other words, you pay more, you have a better a character!
You jerks are no better then the WWE with John Cena's crap down our throats. I loved you guys since 1990. But that love came to an end today. SCREW YOU.
Posted by keebler on January 4, 2012 at 7:54 p.m. #122
You guys are seriously making a mountain out of a molehill...though I can't blame you due to Digital Trends rather misleading title, which was titled just to attract articles views, a practice that is shameful and overused in today's soundbyte/blurb media.
First of all, READ what the ESA actually is, and you will understand why Capcom along with so many other major companies are a part of it. A small part of what they do is represent these companies from a lobbying standpoint for things like copyright infringement. So of course they are going to support the idea of SOPA. Capcom is doing exactly what the other companies are doing, saying that they aren't involved and the ESA will represent them if need be...the only difference is that Capcom vocalized that point. The others basically said no comment.
SOPA sounds very bad when you theorize a bunch of hypotheticals about what COULD happen. When you actually read and understand the insane scope of the bill, you will know that nothing of that nature will ever pass Congress in an undoctored form. In its current form, it would put an incredible administrative stress on some of the biggest corporations in our country and throughout the world. These corporations all have their own lobbyists, ones with far more money to talk with than these groups that are coming out in support.
Sadly, money talks in this country. The money involved will oddly enough be what keeps SOPA from going through. Ultimately, at the very most, they will find some type of legislation that enables them to go after their main targets, which are the largest facilitors of copyright infringement. Counterfeit drug companies, black market goods and military supplies, pirated media suppliers (think "the pirate bay") etc. Even that alone will prove difficult when the companies are outside the country, because this act would have to allow the US to even have jurisdiction to go after companies in other countries, and even that is just in the form of a lawsuit.
Companies are already allowed to go after you if you have illegal copyrighted material. Do they? Not really, unless you are a funnel for which many others can receive it. Can they take stuff off youtube that's copyrighted? Sure, and they already do. Are you going to get arrested? No. Will you get banned from youtube if you are a repeat offender? Probably. Will Youtube close its doors? Not a chance.
Take all the scare tactic BS you read around the interwebz with a grain of salt and think about real-world practicality for a change. Also, stop being so hard on Capcom for basically saying "we aren't discussing it, talk to our lobbyist." Any smart company would do the same. There are way too many people to piss off on both sides if you pick a side at all.
Posted by Chow on January 4, 2012 at 8:02 p.m. #123
@122
Everything that we postulate SOPA can do could be considered scare tactics, but the point still stands.
Should SOPA (as it stands now) pass, it gives the government and large corporations unprecedented control over the internet.
That much is clear.
Whether or not companies will actively shut down websites is not the problem. The problem is that this law is the beginning of a very steep and very slippery slope.
After this law passes, they set precedent over controlling the internet. With that in mind, do you REALLY want to give anyone that kind of power?
Even worse, this power isn't even properly regulated by the government, but by corporations.
At least the government answers to the people. Who do corporations answer to? Their stockholders? As long as corporations make profit, their stockholders don't give a crap.
This law, no matter what form it takes, is scary and people like spotlessdon should REALLY take a look at it. Just because you don't pirate and do illegal things doesn't mean this law will not affect you.
Posted by AnaboliChris on January 4, 2012 at 8:04 p.m. #124
@123, well said.
Posted by BlankaBeast on January 4, 2012 at 8:09 p.m. #125
Eff SOPA and F Go Daddy too.
MLG is moving all their stuff from them now:
http://www.slashgear.com/mlg-dropping...
Posted by EDGEucator on January 4, 2012 at 8:20 p.m. #126
Anyone who says SOPA isn't a big deal is f***ing retarded.
@122
Tell your fans the truth & hope they understand , that's how good organizations with a healthy fanbase relationship do it. But Capcom knows damn well they support SOPA , which is why Sven's bitch ass doesn't comment on it on Unity & his boss (& the boss in Japan) don't comment on the subject. Simple. If they were against it , it's as easy as said , but they aren't. Deal.
Posted by SuperStraightFighter on January 4, 2012 at 8:23 p.m. #127
@122
How do you know this bill will not pass Congress? Last I checked from wiki, 20 amendments had been rejected and PC-World predict that 22-12 vote on the amendments could foreshadow strong support for the bill by the committee. There are some big companies that do not support but there are also many big companies that do, check out the game developers on ESA's website, how much money they got? what about other industries musics and movies etc...SOPA not only sound bad in theory but if it is passed it will revolutionize the way internet works in a bad way.
Posted by zUkUu on January 4, 2012 at 8:24 p.m. #128
I'll crack my ps3 just to not pay for SFxT to give capcom the finger. Anyone who's sane has to see that this is another step back from democracy and that it can be heavily abused by whoever is in lead. Seems the Age of Information is nearing its end... welcome to the Downfall.
Posted by Graphf on January 4, 2012 at 8:24 p.m. #129
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDX8Ly...
well done, short and informative video on this exact subject.
Posted by mozart0341 on January 4, 2012 at 8:30 p.m. #130
@26
Obama was a d**k for signing that NDAA bill, it violates international war law. you can snatch anyone you want and hold them as long as you want from any country under a hunch of terrorism and doesn't have to be war related.
Posted by keebler on January 4, 2012 at 8:34 p.m. #131
@123
Point taken. But do you REALLY think this "slippery slope" will ever even come to fruition? Do you know how much BS comes through the congressional doors? What exactly do you think this Act will hinder aside from make it easier for corporations and people with copyrighted material to protect themselves? If we began every discussion on a means of change solely based on "someone COULD abuse this, let's stop talking about it altogether," we wouldn't get a damn thing done in this country.
This act being introduced is simply the start of REAL conversation, something that hadn't previously happened on this encompassing of a scale.
"Sopa (as it stands now)..."
You may as well stop right there, because that's simply not going to happen. And giving companies "unprecedented control"...well unprecedented isn't hard, because there IS no real control on the internet at all currently. The internet (at least in most countries) is a ****show with no actual control or order. I would be surprised if anyone could come up with even five activities that occur on the internet that would be hindered by this Act in a real-world scenario, as in that you could see someone actually acting upon it.
If you are an actual corporation, are you going to waste your time going after some dude with a Street fighter internet stream? A website that at one time featured links within its message boards that led to illegal software? Going after these cases causes time and money. Yes, this act would make it easier to get a court order to cut off advertising and revenue streams in and out for a website. I'm honestly trying to think of a scenario where that would happen where it would be with the plantiff's time. The people that DO care to do that, well they already DO get the courts involved and things get very messy. Things won't change in the fact that people are going to use the power to finally crack down on the huge problem-creators out there.
I'm all about freedom of speech and privacy, but i'm also a realist. If you actually read that bill and know how congress and the lobbying system works, AND look at the companies that are firmly on opposing sides, you would know that you have nothing to worry about. All I would say is just pay attention to the discussion and write your congressional reps.
I guess the thing that makes it hard for me to sympathize with some of the complainers out there is that many are framing the issue as if it's an internet version of when the Patriot Act effectively killed habeas corpus. It's just not that severe, and there's no reason to blow things out of proportion just to have a conversation about something.
Posted by Drifter on January 4, 2012 at 8:34 p.m. #132
I'm not buying SfxT. They are not getting my money.
SOPA will destroy the internet folks. Things like Tumblr, 9gag and even eventhubs will be shutdown because a company feels it is copyrighted material. This really sucks. F**k Capcom. I'm done with them.
Posted by kdavis851 on January 4, 2012 at 8:37 p.m. #133
@130
You should really look at how that law passed in Congress before getting blaming Obama. It passed OVERWHELMINGLY in both the House and Senate; if Obama would've vetoed it, the veto would've been overridden.
I hate the law as much as you do, but place the blame where it's due. There isn't anything the President could've done to stop that law.
Posted by kazukifafner on January 4, 2012 at 8:47 p.m. #134
@keebler
Except that this "slippery slope" is not without reason.
Companies already take efforts to remove things that they feel is infringement. You see Youtube users get their videos and/or accounts pulled for reasons relating to copyright (some that were and were not within the boundaries of Copyright Law). However, companies had to go through Youtube to do it, and those Youtube users could take measures to get their videos/accounts back.
Under SOPA, this is removed entirely. They won't have to go through Youtube anymore. They can yank what they want, when they want. And I can guarantee you that it will be infinitely harder for those who feel like they are not in violation of Copyright Law to be heard. The number of ways that they can abuse this power is not something to be taken lightly.
Posted by amrinlong on January 4, 2012 at 8:51 p.m. #135
I love my video games and I've enjoyed plenty of Capcom titles as growing up, but I am a bigger fan of what the internet has accomplished. Capcom is wasting its efforts and going to lose fans in support of this. UMvC3 will be the last game from Capcom I ever purchased. They've learned to capitalized profits from releasing minor updates in a new version then they give into SOPA. Video games depends on internet services, not the other way around.
Posted by ZOMBIEMEGAMAN on January 4, 2012 at 8:51 p.m. #136
I'll be pirating every capcom game now.
thanks capcom rofl hold dat
Posted by keebler on January 4, 2012 at 8:56 p.m. #137
@126
One, I never said it's not a big deal. I said basically to calm down because it's not the end of the internet. And i'm not F##### retarded for having an opinion that isn't exactly an extreme outlook on things any more so than yours is. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if Capcom as a whole doesn't even has a firm stance one way or the other on SOPA yet.
If i'm a big corporation who has been abused through copyright infringement for years, and there is an act that will give me the power to act swiftly when I am wronged, at my own discretion (that's a more important point than it sounds), hell yeah I'd be for it. Does that mean Capcom would go after every dollar they could, from every streamer to every fan art poster to (etc). No, of course not. Will they have more tools to go after people that supply ISO's on a large scale? Yes.
@127
I have not looked at what amendments were given. But their rejection doesn't mean anything good or bad in itself. They could have been crap proposals lol. Or i guess i should say "inefficient." This is going to be a big legislative mess to sift through. They will try to find a line that tip-toes around avoiding giving too much power to one side, while at the same time trying to pass something with enough meat on the bones to actually give companies a weapon to fight with in the battle of IP's.
You have to remember the scale that Congress has to consider. This isn't just about videogames and internet blacklists and censorship. This is a complex economic issue involving IP's, something that is in a huge spotlight right now due to our issues with china and their lackadasical approach to IPs. America needs to be able to compete economically with other countries and continue to be strong, and obviously our economy is very much intertwined with economies worldwide We need to provide IP owners some worthwhile protective tools. SOPA is simply a work-in-progress that is a small piece toward a solution.
Posted by keebler on January 4, 2012 at 9:12 p.m. #138
@134
You make a very valid point about the possibilities of its abuse. What I would like for you to do is name some actual scenarios where you see someone or entity getting a court order to have some item pulled, to have search engines remove it from its listings and block it, to have advertising and fund revenue streams shut, etc. This costs money in multiple ways for the plantiff. The act also makes the plantiff liable if ultimately they are unable to prove their claims. The extent of liability is something i did not explicitly see stated though. The main issue behind is would be the possibility of this creating an unnecessary and unjustified burden on the defendant to prove something, almost like a guilty until proven innocent. Then you have people stuck in the middle, big people like Google and yahoo and Paypal, that will get caught in the crossfire of a situation.
All of this comes back around in my mind to plantiffs basically exercising a cost/benefit analysis of going after an offender. Like you mentioned in your youtube example, the people that take this aggressive stance are already practicing it. Now, those people in some cases can go on an even more aggressive approach. The passing of SOPA would not all the sudden mean that all these other companies would stand up and start going after people frivolously. It would be basically the same groups as before.
And while I do agree that it will be harder for someone to defend themselves when accused of breaking copyright law (meaning usually more money for defense needed), how often do you think someone is going to get accused that isn't actually breaking it? I could see many people excused that perhaps never thought what they were doing WAS copyright violation and actually was, but i dont see a bunch of innocent people being accused and actually hadn't committed ANY form of it. For example, pretty much everyone has heard stories of such-and-such person was sued by some company for either downloading music or a movie. The vast majority of those people had done it, lol. We, the public, basically cried things like "how much are you suing per song? That's crazy, everyone downloaded music!" Or "he just downloaded one movie, c'mon, why such a penalty?" Only every once in a while you heard of some mixup due to mistaken identity or some IP address mixup.
But now i'm about to get into 'right to privacy'....and i wont even approach that conversation lol that can admittedly get messy.
Posted by Mr_Sancocho on January 4, 2012 at 9:30 p.m. #139
There's some pretty large companies supporting SOPA. Some are Walmart, Caterpillar, Nike, and Walt Disney Company to name a few. There's a pretty big list of associations and councils that include a ton of companies within them which makes the list of supporters pretty intimidating.
However, there's some really big companies that are fighting against SOPA. Some notable big names are Google(youtube), Facebook, AOL, Yahoo, Reddit, Wikipedia, Paypal, Twitter, Mozilla and Ebay.
Were not out for the count yet boys.
Sources:
http://techcrunch.com/2011/12/22/over...
http://theoriesofconspiracy.com/2011/...
Posted by mozart0341 on January 4, 2012 at 9:45 p.m. #140
Dont worry too too much guys, EA, SONY, NINTENDO and even Go Daddy reversed their positions on SOPA, they see their fan are not ignorant sheep we know whats going on and we will boycott, together we stand divided we fall. CAPCOM will follow suit just like them or their company will get hit where it hurts most, the pockets. Those saying stop whining they are only going after pirates who host the main servers should learn about the history of law bills. There's more to it than just that inside the bill is "hidden" sections written in such legality most cant understand unless they study law. In this on it essentially gives corporations power to stop information flow on the net if its "copyrighted"
Posted by maxs2d2ace on January 4, 2012 at 9:51 p.m. #141
guys please sign the petition to VETO this(see comment 55 for link) . we must take a stand. i know some of us gamers can be lazy but we need to come together for the greater good.
Posted by HellaDarknEvil on January 4, 2012 at 9:54 p.m. #142
Disney Interactive Studios, Inc.
Eidos Interactive
Electronic Arts
Epic Games, Inc.
Konami Digital Entertainment
Microsoft Corporation
Namco Bandai Games America Inc.
Natsume Inc.
Nintendo of America Inc.
SEGA of America, Inc.
Square Enix, Inc.
Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc.
Tecmo Koei America Corporation
THQ, Inc.
Ubisoft Entertainment, Inc.
Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment Inc.
None of these companies have dropped out of the ESA and silently support SOPA. Stop buying games from all of these companies if you want to be an armchair activist.
Posted by EG2 on January 4, 2012 at 9:57 p.m. #143
@140
EA, Sony, and Nintendo are still paying members of the ESA. Their transparent "position" is meaningless when the organization they actively pay to represent them are still staunchly in favor of this bill. They can say whatever they want, but it won't change that fact.
Posted by Chow on January 4, 2012 at 10:25 p.m. #144
@keebler
You don't remember what Capcom did to pikachuakuma?
They got youtube to pull his ENTIRE account, rather than the related footage just because it was a couple weeks earlier than they liked.
Capcom has already shown that they're willing to do some heavy handed bull, even to a well known Capcom supporter.
This bill allows Capcom to do that without going through the intermediary and there is NOTHING we can do about it.
The problem with this bill is that the definitions of what the corporation can considered copyright infringement is not clearly defined.
There are also no checks on that particular corporation.
No one can say with any definitive answer that this will destroy freedom of expression or the internet will cease to exist, but it sets precedent for controlling mechanisms on what many consider to be free.
Also, this is huge on the little guys like us.
It doesn't affect sites like thepiratebay because the US has no legal standing to do anything to those guys.
Instead, we'd just be unable to access it from an US based IP. That sounds similar to another country.
Oh Yea. CHINA does the same to Facebook.
Posted by keebler on January 4, 2012 at 10:29 p.m. #145
@140
Okay for one, you can't mentioned EA, Sony, and Nintendo as being opposed to the bill because they are silent. They never "reversed" their position, because they were never explicitly stated on any position in the first place. But what i wonder is what brings one to make statements like
'In this on it essentially gives corporations power to stop information flow on the net if its "copyrighted" '
I mean honestly, you would think that corporations are just aching for the chance to kill the internet or something with the way some of you frame this argument. Another guy above linked a conspiracy website. Why is everything taken to such extremes!?
I want to ask you a fundamental question. Do you believe that if someone is using someone else's material without permission in a manner that the IP owner does not agree with, that they should be gimped in being able to act in response? That's all they are trying to figure out. SOPA and the idea behind it (like any piece of broad legislation) will be narrowed down and focused to become a more passable piece of law, one that still may draw criticism and one that will undoubtedly have flaws. But it's not the horror story that its being made out to be. Lobbyists on both sides will make their concerns known to the legislators, who will hopefully be able to wittle it down into something reasonable...though Congress working cooperatively on anything relevant is a question in itself nowadays.
@142
I'm not sure if you were being sarcastic or not, because if you add Sony to the list which you may have forgot, you basically can't be a console gamer and be an 'armchair activist' lol. Naming sony, nintendo, and microsoft alone says you can't support those consoles, and then you named most of the big publishers and developers. I'll support or fight against something that requires it. But damnit, as a gamer for life...i'm not gonna be restricted to only playing independent games made as iphone apps : p i'm obviously just messing with you.
Posted by keebler on January 4, 2012 at 10:54 p.m. #146
@144
You may be in diagreement with this, but ya if Pikachuakuma did what you stated, Capcom had every right to get youtube to act in some fashion. Capcom can't get Youtube to ban an account. They can demand action. Youtube probably felt the need to ban if it was a multiple infraction situation, which is what you're describing. Youtube has rules posted in User agreements. Just because not all of us read it doesn't mean we aren't held accountable. I've had much less questionable videos on my own youtube account that were removed as well, video footage that was literally over twenty years old, and music that was about 15 years old, removed because i dont own the rights to it.
If you show footage early, if you break a street date on a videogame, release a clothing line earlier, do unauthorized early screenings of a movie, release valuable confidential info before a scheduled revealing...I mean what do you think will happen? What do you think SHOULD happen?
This allows Capcom to skip someone like Youtube as an intermediary...they just have to get a court order. That's an intermediary. How is there nothing you can do about it? The problem with the bill if anything is that it puts the burden of proof moreso on the defendant than most people would like to agree is fair, plus that the plantiff can cut off your access to that material and to your site in the meantime while you defend yourself. That's the problem.
A big part of the bill they are still trying to work out is how to extend jurisdiction to allow us to go after foreign entities, which obviously calls for international government cooperation. We'll see how that goes. considering several countries have already banned pirate bay, the possibility isn't exactly out of reach of cooperation to be reached.
Copyright infringement would obviously have to be more clearly defined before the act had any true power. Just because legislation is passed, doesn't mean its infallible when used in any case. The judicial system is ultimately the one that will decide whether something is constitutional or not. The most recent example in the media that comes to mind are the various courts around the country that have said parts of the "obamacare" bill are unconstitutional. It's not just an open-and-shut case. If copyright infringment is not clearly enough defined to the point that allows a court to decide beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant was guilty of said infringement, the case won't go anywhere. I would say one of my worries is more of what often happens currently with the RIAA...shakedowns. Plantiffs get alot of money simply from settlements because defendants are intimidate and/or find it easier to just pay a lower settlement just to get them off their back...and sometimes the evidence isn't even collected properly or even non-existant as found in some cases.
Anyway...i'm sure they'll figure it all out, hopefully.
Posted by SecretCharacter on January 4, 2012 at 11:04 p.m. #147
As long as Capcom is in support of this, I boycot Capcom. Sorry Cap all those years of support since the first street fighter has gone down the tubes. I feel like my Wife just told me after 25 years of marriage she is cheating on me.
Good bye friends in the community! I do not support Anti-innovation form Corporations that are so large they feel its in their best interest to infringe on our freedoms to protect themselves from competition. SOPA has very little to do with Piracy and Capcom knows it. All the big Corporations know it. Especially the largest one of ALL "US Government".
I pray that SOPA is stopped. Its like Monsanto is getting into our Tech now.
Posted by SecretCharacter on January 4, 2012 at 11:12 p.m. #148
@145
Read up on this bill cause you got it all wrong. SOPA wouldn't just allow Capcom to stop information flow that is copyrighted. It would allow the US government to shut down the entire website because Capcom believes the site is infringing on copyright material.
Eample: your favorite combo video gets posted on youtube using a copyrighted song from a Capcom game, (megaman music) Capcom has Youtube shutdown. No more youtube. PERIOD!
Posted by R4HU1 on January 4, 2012 at 11:17 p.m. #149
BOYCOTT CAPCOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by coffeerox on January 4, 2012 at 11:22 p.m. #150
Capcom will be getting no more money from me. I'm getting pretty tired of their crap. They release Marvel, then 9 months later, release an update that could have been done over DLC. I thought that they had learned from SF4 in that they built their game from the ground up to support that. The very fact that costumes and characters still work is evidence of that.
Capcom started a PC game initiative, in which I fully supported them, but they claim Marvel couldn't be ported to PC due to licensing, which is BS, I'm sure if they pushed for it, it would happen. You would think that they would want to make money wherever it can be found.
So we don't get Marvel, but we get SSF4:AE. An update to an update of a game. Not only that, but SSF4 was skipped even though fans really cried out in support of the game.
How many times do we have to pay for this game? I've had enough of Capcom's draconian measures. Here in America, we don't run things that way. I don't care about Japan, do their re-release crap over there. In America, we release DLC and support the game through updates and run 1 baseline game.
I got SSF4:AE on PC, and come to find out, we are getting SCREWED by Capcom yet again. The game gets updated to ver.2012 yet it will be MONTHS before the PC version will ever see it. It's ass backwards. In America, PC versions often see the first patch because it is a platform the parent company has full control over. It's also the easiest to code for. There is NO REASON why the PC version got the patch last, and what Sven said about it was total bullcrap, I hope you guys didn't believe that crap.
Regarding Marvel, I bought a new PS3 to play that game. Was it worth it? Not really. I'm not using the PS3 for anything else and I don't even play it enough for it to be worth it. This game could have been done on PC, which is my main platform.
Sorry for the long post but pretty much the point is that they keep screwing us over and us fans continue to buy into their crap because we like those franchises. We've seen in 2011 what kind of content we really deserve in a fighting game (Mortal Kombat), every other game paled in comparison. It's like those companies didn't even try making content.
Capcom then goes the last mile, driving nail in coffin by supporting SOPA so they can finish off everything else they don't agree with. Eventhubs and SRK can go down too if Capcom suddenly thinks that they don't need them anymore. It's completely ridiculous and I will have no part in it. Boycott their products, buy them used, or pirate them. Don't give them any more money.
Posted by yes4me on January 4, 2012 at 11:55 p.m. #151
I like Capcom, but SOPA is death to internet.
Go watch TotalBiscuit opinion on youtube about SOPA... which is similar to mine.
Posted by Nago on January 5, 2012 at 12:01 a.m. #152
I would love to see tournaments and streams stopping ALL support of their games... but what are we going to do then? Like them or not, they're the backbone of our community and hardly anyone will be willing to drop them to the side of the road for another franchise.
Posted by Althegamefreak on January 5, 2012 at 12:54 a.m. #153
Everyone, let's all support SNK and arc system works (Makers of Guilty Gear/Blazblue) because their games need more love and puts more effort while staying true to 2D than Crapcom..... We'll help their underappreciated/growing games more stronger to hurt Crapcom til they drop their stance.
Also DMC HD Collection, SFXT and Asura's Wrath will be my last games from this overshadowed mess of a company.
Posted by zombiebrian on January 5, 2012 at 12:55 a.m. #154
Sorry catalyst im dedicated an all im just not reading all that pish. short version - everybody is pissed
Posted by iBreakArcadestickscauseofnerfs on January 5, 2012 at 3:03 a.m. #155
I just broke my arcade stick in support of starting the protests against this crap! Capcom has screwed over every game that was good. I just cancelled my pre-order on SFxT, saved me about a hundred bucks. I just broke my Resident Evil 5 game, I was so sad but it had to be done. One thing that really ticks me off about Capcom is the fact that Megaman can not charge his stupid buster gun in Megaman 9 but he can in Megaman 3 for the SNES, WTF!!! Looks lime I'm buying that new Wii U, support Nintendo for getting off the list. Capcom you broke my dreams...
Posted by bokosaki on January 5, 2012 at 3:18 a.m. #156
I could live without pirating, that just means I won't get to see anime via stream every few weeks, or that I would have no way of accessing hentai comic books or CDs that they only have in japan... wait forget about it I'll support pirating.
Posted by Veethree on January 5, 2012 at 4:28 a.m. #157
Okay, before I say anything else here, what do you guys think about pirates?
Posted by keebler on January 5, 2012 at 4:32 a.m. #158
@148
I think you are the one that needs to read it. That's a simplified way to look at it. You act like anyone could have something shut down with the snap of a finger.
I never said that I agree with everything in SOPA. I also feel that it's scope will end up being reduced if it manages to pass at all. But even in its current form, its not as simple as you suggest, nor would anyone want to even do that in the first place. There's no incentive for a corporation to go and just start waving this magical banhammer at different sites and stop anyone that's given a copyrighted product any kind of exposure. Corporations make a great deal of money off the internet.
It's a good conversation to have because SOPA shouldn't pass how it is currently. But I can tell many of you have either read someone else's opinion, or viewed it on youtube, and many of those are purposefully extreme just to make a point, just like anything else out there trying to sway your opinion. Think what would actually happen in a real life scenario and stop flipping out and just write your representatives. Boycotting Capcom? Goodness, do it at least for reasons that make sense. By fairness sake, you should be boycotting ALOT more businesses then for similar reasons. Stop turning a blind eye to those that are in the same boat.
Posted by Kenshiro on January 5, 2012 at 5:26 a.m. #159
155 what exactly is the point of breaking up games and merchandise you already purchased?
Seems pretty retarded even if you bought them discounted.
Posted by Spaz on January 5, 2012 at 6:02 a.m. #160
I'm so disappointed to hear this. Of all companies, I thought Capcom would be smarter than this for a couple of reasons. All the combo videos, matches posted to youtube, tournament streams, fan parodies, song remixes, shorts like what Maximilian does, all of that is an elusive, highly sought after fan generated form of FREE advertising that cannot be bought. It must be earned. This bill has the potential to do away with it all.
Seeing as this bill in the long term, doesn't seem like it will actually do a hell of a whole lot to stop piracy, they have such a vested interest in opposing this bill, that it just seems nonsensical, and self destructive for them to support this garbage.
Posted by Nago on January 5, 2012 at 6:11 a.m. #161
@155
Being "off the list" in the case of Sony and Nintendo is nothing more trying to avoid the backlash of their customers. Now, this may not even be possible due to contracts and whatever other legal BS is involved; but until they break ALL TIES with the ESA... that's when you should be giving them your respect and support.
Posted by FathomFear on January 5, 2012 at 7:02 a.m. #162
When it comes to SOPA, can someone explain to me the realistic impacts? I mean, if SOPA were passed what would stop major streaming providers (such as Twitch) from simply relocating to a nearby country without a similar law?
Posted by Smorgasboard on January 5, 2012 at 7:53 a.m. #163
The two main effects of SOPA is the prosecution againts streaming and banning of IP.
On the first, Sven hasn't said that Capcom is not against people streaming their games as long as it's not for profit or in a negative way. However, there are other members of ESA who might be only negatively affected by streaming. They're the ones pushing for this clause But don't expect Capcom to leave ESA over this though. ESA still looks after Capcom's other interest especially the second effect of SOPA.
I'm suprised people are surprised that Capcom want to block sites that pirate their game. Just about every major game, movie, music and media publisher in the world wants to do that. The problem is that they are going about it in an ineffective and overboard way, as usual.
So what is an effective and adequate way to stop piracy? That's where I think is the direction that consumers need to take this discussion instead of just protesting against the companies and politicians but still leaving it up to them to draft the laws. In the end, that's like trying to get rid of weed by moving the lawn. It'll just happen again. Like weed, we'll have to dig down to the root of the issue.
Don't get me wrong, the Act still needs to be fought against but at the same time, how about progressing to a point where piracy is no longer a significant issue?
Posted by Nep on January 5, 2012 at 8:32 a.m. #164
SOPA: the bill being passed by 50 year old moronic politicians who've never even touched a keyboard.
Posted by Dpendleton on January 5, 2012 at 8:34 a.m. #165
People should not try and charge for streams and just get ad revenue instead(if it is possible under this law). Folks also need to stop trying to sell how to videos on the games to I'm looking at you Crosscounter. Hopefully this law does not pass, I would right my congress man but I live in DC.I will see what I can do any way. Also people vote or threaten not to vote for that particular politician who wnats to pass this.
Posted by USAgent on January 5, 2012 at 8:36 a.m. #166
Charging for streams?
This'll never make it pass Obama.
Posted by AnaboliChris on January 5, 2012 at 9:08 a.m. #167
@#162, FathomFear, Most pirating sites are located outside of the U.S. What SOPA will do is block your from accessing those websites. Relocating twitch.tv or any other website will not fix anything. I suggest you read this whole page as this was already answered multiple times as well as video posted.
Posted by Pig_Red on January 5, 2012 at 9:30 a.m. #168
This is just a continuation of the DMCA. True freedom of expression hasn't existed on the internet since that act was passed 13 years ago.
They've already take everything from you in the real world. Did you think they'd forget about the internet?
Posted by gam3fr33k on January 5, 2012 at 10:38 a.m. #169
Fk you Crapcom...
Posted by tuxjay on January 5, 2012 at 11:07 a.m. #170
The escapist link is bad information, if you'd only read the full article you'd see they themselves admit it.
Posted by tuxjay on January 5, 2012 at 11:08 a.m. #171
As in Nintendo, Sony and EA still support SOPA and they don't deserve your custom.
Posted by dunhei on January 5, 2012 at 11:35 a.m. #172
Well, i was planning on buying UMVC3 and SFxT now I will be buying neither.
I am also never playing SF4 again. Even though I enjoy the game competitively.
Time to play some KOF13 I guess, then wait for Persona to come out >.>
Posted by Raven on January 5, 2012 at 11:40 a.m. #173
I don't support SOPA and don't want to support anything like it.
If Capcom supports it, I'll just have to not buy their games, period. I suggest everyone else do the same, it'll open their eyes.
They can't be in control unless with give it to them (moola).
Posted by RyuForever on January 5, 2012 at 11:42 a.m. #174
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/...
Just thought I left this article in here for all of you.Have a good day.
Posted by shurf on January 5, 2012 at 11:45 a.m. #175
I think this was definitely more a decision on ESA's part than Capcom's. How much can Capcom possibly support it if they willingly give players the ability to upload their own footage of a Capcom video game directly to Youtube? (SF3:3s Online)
I don't think you should worry about streams going down and whatnot. I know how bad SOPA is, but I'm going to try to stay optimistic.
Posted by xShonuffx on January 7, 2012 at 5:15 a.m. #176
Hey guys check this out. Sounds like a good idea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNQh56...
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