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Updated: Tiers for Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition v2012 by Kazunoko

Posted by Jonathan 'Catalyst' Grey • February 29, 2012 at 10:11 p.m. PST
Updated: Tiers for Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition v2012 by Kazunoko Updated: It was originally stated that this Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition v2012 tier list came directly from Arcadia Magazine, but Zhi pointed out it originated from eLive|Kazunoko, in an interview with Arcadia Magazine.

There are some surprises here, notably Vega as an A tier character and Blanka clear down in the C position. Note: T. Hawk was purposely left off this list because of lack of experience.

S
Cammy, Fei Long, Seth, Adon
A
Ryu, Vega (Claw), Sagat, C. Viper, Rufus, Ibuki, Makoto, Juri
B
Ken, E. Honda, Zangief, Guile, Dhalsim, Balrog (Boxer), M. Bison (Dictator), Abel, Akuma, Sakura, Rose, Gen, Dee Jay, Dudley, Cody, Guy, Yun, Yang, Evil Ryu, Oni
C
Chun-Li, Blanka, El Fuerte, Gouken
D
Hakan, Dan

Submitted by Lynaken. Tip from Rafael2487.

Comments

Akua said on February 29, 2012 at 10:16 p.m.

Adon huh.. interesting...

#1
aridarron said on February 29, 2012 at 10:18 p.m.

T. Hawk is so unimportant, not even in the list, like they forgot he was even in the game.

#2
teh_anjou said on February 29, 2012 at 10:19 p.m.

lol T. Hawk.

#3
Jarkyttaa said on February 29, 2012 at 10:19 p.m.

It has seemed to me that Hakan and Gouken have been doing way better compared to the rest of the cast than this list gives them credit for. And while Adon is definitely pretty good in 2012, I wouldn't expect anyone to give him S tier. People are going to make tier lists, that's inevitable, but 2012 is definitely the first or second most balanced version of SF4 (I think Super had less S-tier contenders (if any), but the crap-tier was really crap tier. Fuerte, Blanka, and, to a much lesser extent, have been making decent tournament experiences, much more-so than Makoto and Hakan was during super. 2012 probably has more powerful S-tier fighters, but the crap-tier aren't that far behind mid-tier, comparatively).

#4
umad said on February 29, 2012 at 10:20 p.m.

beasting on the beast = auto A tier.

#5
RespectSenseiRay said on February 29, 2012 at 10:21 p.m.

DEE JAY.

#6
c_wong428 said on February 29, 2012 at 10:22 p.m.

Kojikog will be shattered.

#7
RetroDoom said on February 29, 2012 at 10:24 p.m.

They need to re-do this list carefully and add t.hawk (-___-)

#8
Rich_Hobo said on February 29, 2012 at 10:26 p.m.

Does anyone know what makes cammy so good?

#9
ItsMahveIBaby said on February 29, 2012 at 10:30 p.m.

Cammy above Viper? I just fell out of my chair.

#10
xRELLIKx said on February 29, 2012 at 10:30 p.m.

lol Adon top tier

#11
BattleJoe said on February 29, 2012 at 10:31 p.m.

I play Adon and can someone explain how the hell Adon is S-Tier?? Cuz right now all I got is GamerBee is GDLK = Adon must be S tier.

#12
RIMAS said on February 29, 2012 at 10:32 p.m.

Fraudulent list, pretty much.

#13
RIMAS said on February 29, 2012 at 10:32 p.m.

Akuma and Sakura randomly in the middle of B tier? Is this a joke?

#14
KingAdon said on February 29, 2012 at 10:33 p.m.

Character loyalty FTW!

#15
chaosmage said on February 29, 2012 at 10:37 p.m.

Claw A-tier? I am intrigued hear the reasoning.

#16
JumboSoup said on February 29, 2012 at 10:37 p.m.

OMG an Ibuki won Topanga league. Why isn't she in S tier!?!?!?!?

#17
ItsMahveIBaby said on February 29, 2012 at 10:39 p.m.

Meanwhile, James Chen just had a heart attack.

#18
JumboSoup said on February 29, 2012 at 10:43 p.m.

I don't understand the reasoning behind Hakan or Dan being in D tier.

#19
Notecks said on February 29, 2012 at 10:44 p.m.

Stay free T.ony Hawk

#20
f1ip said on February 29, 2012 at 10:47 p.m.

is this based on "reasoning" or based on tourney results???

#21
Aluppoj said on February 29, 2012 at 10:48 p.m.

My Main, Chun Li in the C Tier! Yesssss, I'm so GDLK!

Lol, JK.

#22
Tensa said on February 29, 2012 at 10:49 p.m.

akuma should be higher and I would move claw to B tier and put viper in front of ryu

#23
EarthRyno said on February 29, 2012 at 10:52 p.m.

I really disagree with Blanka at C. He's no doubt B tier in my books. Japan had Blanka really high up in their tier list in vanilla AE. I don't think anything worthy happened of bringing him down like that. Oh well. Tier list are just list.

#24
Shiranui said on February 29, 2012 at 10:54 p.m.

It's ok that Hawk isn't there because obviously they'd put him last, they always do.

But Adon? Really? Why?!

#25
JIHADJOE said on February 29, 2012 at 10:56 p.m.

I play Chun and I disagree with her being in C.

Her tools are just as viable as ever, and people who stuck with her since vanilla know how to AA even with a nerfed df+lk. I would've though she'd be B at least, maybe even A.

Yeah and I agree Gems Chen can't make any more excuses lol. During the Winter Brawl stream even Arturo Sabin Sanchez agreed she was very good, and went on to explain how her versatile tools and huge damage potential made her "a problem". He even said, and I quote: "I don't know why more people don't play her".

#26
JIHADJOE said on February 29, 2012 at 10:57 p.m.

* referring to cammy on my last paragraph

#27
shadow050 said on February 29, 2012 at 10:58 p.m.

this list is trolling... like for real.

let's review:
-no T.hawk (i find it hilarious though)
-claw A
-while ken, dictator, guile and AKUMA are B??
-and while CHUN is C??

*cocks head back* "C'mon son..."

i know better than this...

#28
Cinderkin said on February 29, 2012 at 10:58 p.m.

@ 20

His name is Thunder Hawk. He is clearly F Tier.

#29
Hypermarth said on February 29, 2012 at 11 p.m.

Posted by RIMAS on February 29, 2012 at 10:32 p.m. #14

Akuma and Sakura randomly in the middle of B tier? Is this a joke?

^ Yeah.... I was wondering why Sakura was so low.

#30
Nago said on February 29, 2012 at 11:01 p.m.

lol... I've played 2012 maybe twice and was just about to come back now that it's on PC. It's funny to think that SOMEONE will eventually call me out for tier-whoring with Vega and Juri now.

#31
HooliganComboFTW said on February 29, 2012 at 11:01 p.m.

#9
her rush down game is solid and has good mix ups and her getting back her HK spiral arrow back to super incarnation makes her combos more viable. Her Ex Dive Kicks are dangerous and can guarantee a combo with heavy damage then has cross options. baisically in capable hands she can be dangerous if the momentum is on her side. of course she can blow up if she gets zoned out effectively but i can see her being s tier since everyone else above her got weaker while she remained the same except her HK spiral arrow back to former glory and safer spin knuckles for mixups.

#32
pinoy929 said on February 29, 2012 at 11:02 p.m.

I don't play much anymore, but I do watch matches. This tier list is quite interesting. Would like more details about S and A tiers.

#33
TheMasterPlayer said on February 29, 2012 at 11:06 p.m.

Adon in S-tier? Cmon now! Based on what???

#34
HooliganComboFTW said on February 29, 2012 at 11:06 p.m.

#10
Viper just has her 50/50 mixups on knockdowns cammy has more broad tools that involves her poking/rushdown her ex cannon strike and keeping the momentum on her side. Also do to the fact she nearly back to super incarnation except the instant reg cannon spike

#35
Sasuga said on February 29, 2012 at 11:07 p.m.

Cammy S tier... how? Juri A tier... ??? I don't wan't my characters to be A or higher!

#36
broz0rs said on February 29, 2012 at 11:08 p.m.

Justin Wong and Ricky Ortiz are such tier whores for playing an A tier character.

#37
HooliganComboFTW said on February 29, 2012 at 11:09 p.m.

#34 uh yeah good question since adon has little combo potential but i assume because he has been receiving buffs for every patch update and how random he can play might be the dark horse for 2012?

#38
HooliganComboFTW said on February 29, 2012 at 11:12 p.m.

#36 she nearly back to her super incarnation except her instant cannon spike regular and the fact that her 2hit heavy spiral arrow is back is a huge plus to her offensive game. and i assume since the other former s tier got nerd she manage to squeeze into s tier barely

#39
Big_Mac said on February 29, 2012 at 11:14 p.m.

I'm surprised seeing Adon so high. He does have very sick footsies, but what else? I wish they'd explain their reasoning, would be way more interesting that way instead of just throwing out a list and nothing more.

#40
PlzBuffBalrog said on February 29, 2012 at 11:14 p.m.

zangief, akuma, sakura, abel, and dhalsim B rank really bro that doesnt even make sense. and since when is juri a A rank gtfo.

balrog my main i agree with him being B tier i would of put him in C tier considering 90% of the B tier cast can destroy him.

#41
griever2000 said on February 29, 2012 at 11:17 p.m.
#42
Existent said on February 29, 2012 at 11:28 p.m.

Why do you guys care about what these magazine editors think?
This list is just an opinion, and it's my counter-opinion that it's ridiculous.

#43
Kid_Kuma said on February 29, 2012 at 11:29 p.m.

when I see 70% of the cast randomly thrown into B without care, I lose interest. However I agree with S minus Adon, put Adon into A and bump Viper to S. Put Blanka in B and Vega in B, put Cody in A, put Sakura in A, put Ken in A, and put Hawk in D and I'll call this list set.

#44
Big_Mac said on February 29, 2012 at 11:38 p.m.

#43 Magazine editor? Kazunoko made the list and I'm pretty sure he knows more about this game than the average eventhubs user. Lol.

#44 Cody and Sakura in A? Haha are you f*cking serious?

#45
krazhy said on February 29, 2012 at 11:42 p.m.

Wait, Cammy got nerfs from super to ae, and she is still gdlk, and now she is S tier, please someone elaborate??? And sakura, B tier, she is defo a tier. All the characters in topanga league are A tier and above. XD

#46
Kaizy said on February 29, 2012 at 11:43 p.m.

This list is a joke. Nobody in the community including players from all over the US and Japan have ever put Vega this high. Arcadia doesn't know shi-t.

#47
griever2000 said on February 29, 2012 at 11:45 p.m.

@45 are you really doubting that Sakura couldn't be A ? lmao so you must be doubting that she beats seth also ? sakura has enormous potential and she can definitively be ranked A tier

even if Kazunoko did this tier list a lot of the characters are at their wrong places

Akuma is STILL among the top characters
Chun isn't C tier at all
Blanka isn't C tier at all
Hakan has more potential than before. He's not that low anymore
Adon S tier ? no.
Fei S tier ? no. A tier ? most likely
Vega A tier ? no.

#48
griever2000 said on February 29, 2012 at 11:47 p.m.

edit: Fei long S tier is possible
Cammy / Seth / Viper / Akuma / Fei for S tier

#49
Aluppoj said on February 29, 2012 at 11:49 p.m.

@45

Kinda agree.

I love using Chun, and I'm pretty awesome with her. But Kaz and Daigo both say she's a$$!

I'd love to hear some in depth thoughts on this placement. Because as smart as I think I am, these guys might know a thing or two about SF.

And Adon? Idk about S-Tier, but I will say he's annoying as Hell to play against!

Spammy safe specials, and a 50/50 throw or DP that is TOO GDLK! Crouch tech at your own risk lol.

#50
Existent said on February 29, 2012 at 11:50 p.m.

@45
Well no kidding he knows more than the average player, but that doesn't change the fact that this is only an opinion, albeit an educated one but still something everyone has one of.

#51
warriors said on February 29, 2012 at 11:51 p.m.

@12 well, shamelessly I started to play adon since I saw gamerbee vidoes. And I kinda agree he is S tier, I don't think he have any bad match-up.

His normals and special move can be used to formulate a winning plan against any other character. And above all, he is actually easy and fun to play.

Now cammy being S tier, this I dont understand

#52
RHayabusa said on February 29, 2012 at 11:54 p.m.

As a Vega player since Vanilla all I can wonder..."Is Arcadia Magazine trolling us?"

#53
NEWkidCJ said on February 29, 2012 at 11:59 p.m.

Yea Cammy is #1.

#54
Big_Mac said on March 1, 2012 at 12:02 a.m.

#51 Yeah definitely, but if he says Adon is S-tier he probably has something specific in mind that most people don't seem to know about. That's what I mean. He knows the intricacies of the match-ups. Gotta remember tier lists are all about match-ups too. Just because Sakura can beat Seth doesn't mean she's A-tier if she's got tons of other bad match-ups. With that said I'm also a bit surprised with this list, but I trust his judgement more than my own, because I'm a scrub.

#55
Zenman said on March 1, 2012 at 12:03 a.m.

Funny how random scrubs think they know better than top japanese players...

#56
ItsMahveIBaby said on March 1, 2012 at 12:17 a.m.

Good to see most people here aren't mindless sheep that take whatever Japan says as law. The guy above me would praise Kazunoko if he had T Hawk as S tier.

#57
RHayabusa said on March 1, 2012 at 12:20 a.m.

As a Vega player since Vanilla all I can wonder..."Is Arcadia Magazine trolling us?"

#58
RHayabusa said on March 1, 2012 at 12:21 a.m.

Oops sorry for the TRI repost O_O

#59
spotlesseden said on March 1, 2012 at 12:22 a.m.

there is no T. Hawk

#60
Spanishninja said on March 1, 2012 at 12:23 a.m.

Im a Claw user since Street fighter Turbo and alpha 3, stuck with my main spaniard man since the early years, im decent enough with him and i must say, the strongest i have ever felt Vega in any street fighter was in HD remix, he is no where near that good in the SF4 series so why the Hell does Kazunoko rank him at A? every Vega user out there knows the limitations of no decent AA with the exception of U2 that fact alone makes a char a B in the tiers, Still i want to know the reasoning behind this broken list.

#61
KingAdon said on March 1, 2012 at 12:28 a.m.

Except against grapplers, try to tell me when Adon is unsafe on block. Go ahead, I'll give you some time...
Times up and your only answer in a badly spaced sweep.
This is one of the reasons Adon is S tier, and there are many more.

#62
spotlesseden said on March 1, 2012 at 12:41 a.m.

@Spanishninja

everybody has their own list. your list is just different his. Go look at evenhubs's SSF4 list. They rank Ryu over Fie Long.

#63
smokey said on March 1, 2012 at 12:47 a.m.

T.Hawk = SS Teir

and f$%k Seth... hate that guy ><!

#64
Endgame said on March 1, 2012 at 12:50 a.m.

I feel they are using the S tier too liberally here.

S tier rank is for characters where people start calling them broke(i.e Yun, Yang and Fei Long in AE).

If this game as any S-Tiers, it would be Seth, but that is debatable.

#65
Rampage_23 said on March 1, 2012 at 12:54 a.m.

when I red Vega is A tier... I stopped reading the list

#66
Kid_Kuma said on March 1, 2012 at 1:04 a.m.

@51 if you think Sakura can't be considered A-tier you're ridiculous.

#67
Skye said on March 1, 2012 at 1:07 a.m.

I'm a Vega player and I cant see for 1 second that Vega is A tier...middle B tier at most but not top A tier, no way.

#68
Emersion said on March 1, 2012 at 1:07 a.m.

Kazunoko and his troll lists, remember the yun list where yun had 8-2 with half the cast and 7-3 with the other half? lol, i don't think you need to take his stuff super seriously.

#69
hank1199 said on March 1, 2012 at 1:09 a.m.

Poor twins, could not even get on A tier since their nerfs. Sorry to say it but I lost passion for the game when my character Yang got beat by Capcom's nerf stick. Looking forward to sfxt. Once Yang, if ever, returns, I will be hype for the game once again.

#70
The6thRedWolf said on March 1, 2012 at 1:09 a.m.

Vega A tier..TROLOLOLOLOLOLOL

#71
ESTAKA said on March 1, 2012 at 1:11 a.m.

Vega is better then viper now hahahaha. Ken is better then Akuma. Also I wouldn't consider any character in 2012 to be S tier. Epic Fail of a tier list.

#72
warriors said on March 1, 2012 at 1:15 a.m.

@65

The only Overpowered in this game right now is Fei Long not Seth (he have the most complete set of tools but also the worst health, so he is balanced fairly)

watch this game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0pjlI...

Poongko heart almost stopped, and he barely won, and mainly because Fruudo really messed up near the end, the effort needed by a fei long to win the best player using arguably the best character in the game (poongko and seth) is laughable, he only needed to time his rekkas!

Fei Long ruined AE ruined Evo2011, and the mess is being continued in 2012, we will see if it will also continue in Evo2012

#73
Rising_Jaguar said on March 1, 2012 at 1:30 a.m.

Sakura for A Tier!~ Haha...AND ASUKA TOO XD
Jk jk...

#74
Super_Shoto_Fighter_4 said on March 1, 2012 at 1:51 a.m.

I don't agree with this list at all.

Vega in A tier gtfo!

Adon S tier, explain.

Cammy still S tier and considered the best in the game lol.

Cody in the same tier as Evil Ryu and Gen wtf. Cody can jump in on you and do 35% yet he has a better projectile than Chun li.

Sakura Strategically placed in the middle of the mid tiers lol. I swear there is some sort of illuminati or secret society trying to protect this dam character. I've mained Sakura since AE first dropped and I feel like dirt when I win with her. I win with her a lot more than I win with Ken, Chun and Guy.

No T Hawk?

Akuma mid tier? Okay this tier list is a complete joke.

#75
BeatNinja said on March 1, 2012 at 2:04 a.m.

T.Hawk on T. Hawk tier. Godlike. Meanwhile Juri is A tier and I couldn't be happier.

#76
StellarSTLR said on March 1, 2012 at 2:08 a.m.

This list actually looks pretty accurate.

Also, looks like Japan thinks T.Hawk is a waste of space. I've been saying that since Super was released. haha.

#77
Kid_Kuma said on March 1, 2012 at 2:14 a.m.

@75 I agree with Adon a tiny bit for S because he was already A in my opinion, and with the buffs he got (especially St. Strong) I believe is high high tier but not S, probably top of the A's or near. Vega in A tier however...I'm lost.

#78
Maryokutai said on March 1, 2012 at 2:28 a.m.

I hate this list. I started playing Cammy about two weeks before Daigo mentioned her for the first time and said she was probably the best character in the game. Now everyone says the same and the next time I play online, I’m pretty people will just keep telling me I was a tierw****.

I’m getting tired of such behavior. Happened to me with Viper already who I’ve been playing since Vanilla.

#79
Paine said on March 1, 2012 at 2:30 a.m.

This list looks very reasonable. The fact alone that people are debating mid-tier or mid-low tier characters should be high-tier and such means a well balanced game. The fact that bottom-mid tier and high tier aren't that far apart in greatness shows for a good game.

#80
caruga said on March 1, 2012 at 2:32 a.m.

The problem here is that it's a 2012 edition tier list... made in 2012.

#81
exspes said on March 1, 2012 at 2:35 a.m.

DEAR EVERY TOP PLAYER IN JAPAN

STOP MAKING TIER LISTS EVERY WEEK UNLESS IT'S COMBINED WITH A MATCHUP CHART.

KTHXBAI,

FGC

#82
fireinthehole said on March 1, 2012 at 2:57 a.m.

Like I stated last week, Cammy's damage and stun output are definitely OP in this version. Especially considering how easily it is to connect and pull off her high-damage combos.

Cammy became S-Tier in AE-2012 very much the same way that Fei Long became S-Tier in Vanilla-AE.

Cammy became S-Tier became she escaped the nerf hammer while the characters above her, and even some of the characters that were on her level back in Vanilla-AE were nerfed.

But Cammy was already A-Tier in Vanilla-AE while Fei Long was middle-tier back in Super-SF4.

#83
GodPride said on March 1, 2012 at 2:58 a.m.

Vega at Tier A?

#84
Schwoi said on March 1, 2012 at 2:58 a.m.

blablabla tierlist blablabla just play the game and pick the charakter you like. why give a fck, those lists are just opinions

#85
WinstonChurchill said on March 1, 2012 at 3:03 a.m.

I love tier lists fresh from Japan, it always proves that Cammy player moan the most ha

Got to agreed with #86

#86
fireinthehole said on March 1, 2012 at 3:04 a.m.

@87

Bullsh-t, Fei Long was never "Top Tier" in Super-SF4.

Very few Japanese pros ever considered Fei Long as "top tier" in Super-SF4, and those who did only did so AFTER Mago owned the competition during Godsgarden Online II.

BTW, Cammy's non-EX TKCS was broken back in Super-SF4.

#87
fireinthehole said on March 1, 2012 at 3:06 a.m.

@87

BTW, the tiers from Super-SF4 are right here:

http://www.eventhubs.com/guides/2008/...

Fei Long was middle-tier back then, nowhere near the top.

#88
Bruce_fight said on March 1, 2012 at 3:09 a.m.

the actually SSF4 AE 2012 TIER LIST seems like this:

S: Cammy, Seth, Akuma, C. Viper,
A: Ibuki, Ryu, Makoto, Sakura,Sagat, M. Bison
B: Feilong, Ken, Blanka, Gouken, Cody,Gen,, Juri, Abel,Guile,Chun-li, Dhasilm, T.Hawk, Zangief, Honda, Boxer, Rose, Oni, Evil Ryu, Yung, Yang, Dee Jay, Dudley,
C: Guy, EL fuerte, Dan

It can be the more balanced sf4 of the series

#89
Bruce_fight said on March 1, 2012 at 3:11 a.m.

Vega is B class: I think between Abel and guile

#90
fireinthehole said on March 1, 2012 at 3:13 a.m.

@91

Keep talking straight out of your a$$crack buddy. You keep talking but still fail to provide any back up evidence. The tiers from Super-SF4 are right here, and NO Fei-Long was no where near Top-5 back in Super-SF4:

http://www.eventhubs.com/guides/2008/...

#91
fireinthehole said on March 1, 2012 at 3:17 a.m.

@91

"Why do you think so many people played him back in super"

WTF are you talking about? There weren't very many Fei Longs back in Super-SF4 at all. I barely met any Fei's online back in the days of Super-SF4.

"heck mago's a massive tier whore"

Yea, keep talking Sh-t buddy. Let me remind you that the only reason that some of the Japanese pros even began to consider Fei Long as "top-tier" during Super-SF4 was because Mago owned Godsgarden Online II.

Before Mago's outstanding performance at Godsgarden Online II, nobody considered Fei as "top-tier."

#92
fireinthehole said on March 1, 2012 at 3:26 a.m.

@96

Can you provide evidence that Gootecks said that? I watched the Canada Cup and don't recall him saying that.

And even if Gootecks did say that, that doesn't make it true. Non of the top Japanese pros seriously considered that Fei Long was "top-tier" in Super-SF4.

Some of the Japanese pros started to think that Fei Long MAY HAVE BEEN top-tier after watching Mago dominant at Godsgarden Online II, but they all ended up placing Fei Long back to middle-tier upon further evaluation.

#93
fireinthehole said on March 1, 2012 at 3:29 a.m.

@96

"I couldn't give a sh1t for some wortheless eventhubs guide"

And why should I believe you??? So far, you have only proved to the world that you are a loser who can't even write a complete sentence correctly.

And for the record, you still haven't shown us where Gootecks said that Fei Long was the "best character" in Super-SF4.

#94
Dragard said on March 1, 2012 at 3:30 a.m.

Ahh, makes me want to start playing Street Fighter again. I used to main Adon and Cammy in SSFIV, but I had crappy internet back then xD

#95
fireinthehole said on March 1, 2012 at 3:33 a.m.

@96

"You couldn't move for feilong players in super"

Seriously??? You couldn't move when you played against Fei Longs back in Super-SF4?

Buddy, I have news for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMe-Wz...

#96
Beshoul said on March 1, 2012 at 3:45 a.m.

Oh, look at all the EventHubs pros..."NO, THIS IS BS! MY CHARCTER IS NOT S/A/B/C/D...I KNOW BETTER...WHY???...I PLAY CHARCTER X FOR...GTFO...THIS LIST IS A JOKE...NO WAY CHARCTER X IS Y..."
But hey, I'm sure you online worriers know better than one of the best players of japan.

It's his opinion/experience...get over it.

#97
Sasuga said on March 1, 2012 at 3:50 a.m.

I'd like to see a complete matchup-chart to go with this.

#98
Simba_v7 said on March 1, 2012 at 3:51 a.m.

@96 @99

It was at Canada Cup 2010 when a handful of players Japanese/Canadians/Americans said they though Fei-Long was top tier in SSF4. It would be kinda hard to get that footage unless someone has the stream archive which I doubt since it was stream by TeamSpooky on uStream. I believe the general consensus that day was Fei-Long(I disagreed, I didn't believe Fei was that good in SSF4) and Honda. If I recall correctly the players who were interviewed:
Daigo
Justin
Mago(I think he disagreed with Fei Long and was the first to say Honda)
Mike Ross( didn't agree with Honda of course lol)
Gootecks

#99
fireinthehole said on March 1, 2012 at 3:51 a.m.

@103

Thankyou, I couldn't have said it better.

But one thing that you forget to mention is that most people who uses top-tier characters DO NOT WANT the community to know that their main characters are top-tier.

The reason for that is because if the community knows that their main characters are top-tier, then Capcom will most likely nerf their mains.

So all and all, A LOT of players are blatantly lying. They are giving dishonest opinions about their main characters' true tier placements.

Just take a look at the Cammy fans. The are always DENYING the fact that Cammy is top-tier in this version.

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