Updated: SuperYan forfeits spot on Cross Assault - Explains decision, feels Capcom handled things well - Aris comments

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Kinda sad she left, but I'm guessing it was for the best.

I think that she should have been able to continue and Aris should have been removed. It's not like the he was doing that well coaching as it is.

Alex Valle on the other hand was coaching his team.

^I wish you could post this everytime someone posts something on this site.

She was the weakest link but the main reason why she left is going to give the FGC a lot of bad publicity, but publicity nonetheless.

She should have stopped whatever was bothering her the moment it started.. but in the real world people are very different, and react to situations very differently

No big deal at the end of the day if you ask me, it was entertaining to watch.. thats all I wanted :P

Marn went in on her on Twitter, and I think Aris should have been removed. They should have gotten Mark Man from the jump.

What was matt referring to when he said there were a few situations where she wasn't treated with respect? Was she being harassed?

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I don't like everyone suddenly attacking Aris, there's two sides to every story and Aris seems like a nice guy. She was willing to put up with the "harassment" when she had a shot at still winning the 25k.

Man, I hate to see this sort of thing happen, but I guess some man just never got out of that adolescent stage of development.

Be a man, treat a woman right.

Drama drama drama. First we had the Arturo exposure footage. Then the blow up on LI Joes twitch page. Then we had the drama over at FGTV with dacidbro "coming out party". And now this drama with super yan...I love you FGC!
DON'T EVER CHANGE! <3

Personally, I think this show is making the game, community and capcom look really bad.

#12/LK
That's sexist.

There is a plenty of way to woe a woman, sexual harassment is not one of them. Sexual harassment lawsuit is also not very fun to deal with.

@16

If treating a woman right is sexist, I'll continue being sexist.

Man, what did Aris do to SuperYan? What did I miss?

Aris needs to step it up and publicly apologize to SuperYan. It's 2012 FFS. Disappointed anyone is defending him when he's clearly in the wrong.

What happened?

#19/LK
You heard it here first, folks: TREAT MEN LIKE THE SCUM THEY ARE.

So what exactly happened?

I didn't see much of the blatant creepiness/sexual harassment on stream, but I did see Aris (in the midst of all this) arguing that sexual harassment is a vital part of what makes the FGC the FGC and if we cut back on the sexual harassment, we would no longer be the FGC.

I've liked him for a good while, but the guy just seems to be off his rocker on this show.

For those that were in the Rape camera after Arturos dick move know just what sort of person Aris is.

@24 he's been doing this crap day 1 he was questioning her in her bra size.

@22/delete
What the hell are you talking about? LK said nothing of the sort. He said "Be a man, treat a woman right." How did you get TREAT MEN LIKE THE SCUM THEY ARE from that?

Miranda had a plan to do something today and executed it perfectly hence her deleted tweet hours ago.

http://imageshack.us/f/803/scr9027871...

@#24 Yeah, Aris was trying to make it seem like sexual harassment is the cool thing to do and to be apart of the FGC you need to accept it and be okay with it. It's archived, it's happened when Haunts and Aris are talking to Jared about esports and why Jared left to go to twitch. (Jared left basically because of the same reasons Miranda left the show)

@22
LK said SOME
not all, SOME

and also, what's wrong with you guys? now i'm not trying to start anything but what aris did was kind of messed up, you guys can't even deny that, and yes this is probably the billionth time you heard this question but ima say it anyway.

what if instead of yan it was one of your gf's or your mom being harrased in that type of manner
not on the show but anywhere at anytime. all aris has to do is apologize.

shades_of_grey - #27

Shouldn't that be, 'Treat people right?'

@21 Aris spent more time sexually harassing Miranda than teaching his team. Stream monsters ate it up and Capcom just let it happen.

Is anybody going to explain what happened? :|

Scourge739 / #30
>Be a man, treat a woman right.

Nothing with 'some' in that paragraph/sentence.

@32 Miranda herself let it snowball so blame her.

@11

have you even heard aris talk on his stream? the way he talks to girls even on stream i'm not surprised at all about what i'm hearing

Read Neogaf you will find your answers there and ARIS IS STILL GOD-LIKE.

@Delete
look at #12
i know your not blind
read closely

Every time I watch Cross Assault I feel uncomfortable. Worst idea Capcom has had in a long ass time.

#33
basically
aris was just sexually harassing superyan through the whole stream since day 1 instead of teaching his team.
asked what her bra size was
tilted the camera toward her butt
and so on
she got sick of it and forfeited

Scourge739 / #39
>Be a man, treat a woman right.
>Nothing with 'some' in that paragraph/sentence.

@28 really -__- damn it all.

Awww look at the Miranda White Knights here....

aris has always been a nasty talking dude so no one should not expect this i dont really care as long as he aint touching or nothing they are just words is it right probally not i dont do it but everyone should have known how this dude was personally i think he is hilarious

he asked her bra size and pointed a camera at her butt mature no damaging cmon now ridiculous

@42

You're not clever by trying to take things out of context. Quoting one sentence without the previous statement is a blatant attempt at doing such:

'some man just never got out of that adolescent stage of development.'

Those were the men he was referring to. Not all.

foreverbadass / #47

Nothing is out of context.

1) 1+1=2
2) HERP-A-DERP!

Statement #1 is true.
You can't judge my second statement because the first statement is true! HERP-A-DERP!

Seems like bitchassness on Aris' part.

You know, I had a feeling something like this would happen. One day at work I had the streams on mute and the Tekken stream was just the camera zooming in at Superyan's chest and legs for several min. Assuming things like that transpired, I could see her not wanting to bother with the rest of the show.

If he didn't touch her i see no problem. yes its pretty rude but was she actually mad or just wanted a way to lose without losing by making someone take the fall for her.
(refer to #28)

You know, things like this wouldn't happen if people just followed the all-important rule: treat people the way you want to be treated. For goodness sake, they teach you this in grade school, but everyone forgets. Instead, mankind is easily seduced by the beauty of conflict. The fact that at least there are some people that live by that rule provides a glimmer a hope for an otherwise desolate world.

Never liked Aris, from day one. How can he possibly think that sort of behavior is acceptable?

I love how everybody is trying to defend Miranda like shes an under aged girl that is being molested..If she doesn't feel comfortable being teased and harassed then she could've spoke up DAY 1...

Instead she giggled and played it off on cam the entire time..gtfo

Aris was taking to LI Joe on stream.
http://www.twitch.tv/thisislijoe/

I love how all these stream monsters are trying to play the white knight now. If anything, Aris is dumb for trying to please the monsters. 30 seconds in chat will reveal lines upon lines of DEM THIGHS or SHE LOVES DA BLAK COK. Aris should be considered a hero to stream monsters for listening to them.

This crap with Miranda's thighs all started on FGTV by the way. Moderators need to do their jobs and stop letting crap like this fly.

@55
Because she had a shot at 25k, she didn't wanna create any bad friction between her and the captain that's supposed to be helping get closer to the money. But there's only so much harassment one person can take ya know?

Just because these actions are expected from an individual, does NOT make it right. He said something to my gf at Super Arcade and we had to leave before SHE ripped his beard off.

Stay single Aris (and his defenders).

#54
Blaming the victim? Not a good look. I can understand the mindset she was probably in. She's on a show for $25,000 with a bunch of people, almost all of which know and are friends with Aris, and he starts up with that sexist stuff. In that instance what's she going to do? Blow up Aris and run the risk of a lot of the other contestants ripping her?

Sherry proved that tonight when she tried to defend Aris and when it wasn't really working out she made up stuff about Aris apologizing. She couldn't even get her story straight. First it was Miranda talked to him and he apologized, then it was Team TK talked to him and he apologized. And in both instances Miranda gets painted as the guilty person for not letting it go.

According to Miranda the truth is she did talk to Aris and he didn't seem to really care about what she had to say.

@Versa SHE should have spoken up? I'm sure that most of the people running the show were fully aware of what was going on and let it slide. They shouldn't wait for her to complain. They should've stepped in from the start and done something about it.

Women get treated like sh*t as it is, just by being on the show. Imagine how much harder it would be for her if she went against a well-respected member of the FGC. And with the people at Cross Assault just letting it happen, do you think she could trust them to do something about it? Just look at what happened. After she finally complained for being sexually harassed, what does Matt do? He sure doesn't get Aris removed from the competition. Instead, he just gives the weakest and most pitiful apology I've ever heard.

Look, at the end of the day Aris is who he is; brash, scathing, trollish, and he has an adolscent sense of humour and knows little restraint... meanwhile Miranda seems like the kind of person who will try to avoid confrontation and laugh off things that are bothering her before she does anything much about them, and seemingly that's what happened here and it reached a point where she felt too uncomfortable to continue.

I don't think think Aris ever had any malicious intent and I'm sure he didn't want to upset her, but when she was laughing off his teasing he probably took that as her taking it for the joke it was intended to be... I'm not trying to say either of them is right or wrong here; they're just mismatched personalities and this drama was bound to happen when you stuck them together for a prolonged period.

"when the chips are down, i'll show ya, these civilized people, they'll eat each other"

y so srs FGC

@62
Exactly.

Here is my 2 cents, everyone needs to calm down. I was listening to Aris Talk to Jared on Skype the other day on the show, and a few things went through my mind about the situation. Its very sad to see someone who has done so much for the community and possible new star in the FGC scene at each others throats. The talk with Jared concerning eSports had nothing to do with Sexual Harassment, Jared took it there because him and Haunts didnt see eye to eye and he was trying to find ways to prove his point. Jared complained about Phoenix in Marvel getting heckled... Poor Jean I'm sure she got her feelings hurt. You guys ever got to a football game? Its the culture within the culture. Next time I boot Marvel 3 up again (never) ill ask her (Pheonix) if she cares.
I also like how Capcom waited for this to blow up like it did. Im sure they were watching everything watching the viewer count rise. The way he treated Yan was unprofessional yes, but she and Capcom let it escalate. This type of exposure is viral marketing at its finest folks. Ive taken more than a few courses on hows exposure both good and bad (see Kardashians) prints money. Aris is a good guy he does a lot for this community behind the curtain, I think because he genuinely cares for it. Sure he is vulgur. Unfortunately, American is a very sensitive society about anything sexual and people will take anything to offense for the publicity and money.

@63 Well said.

This is really sad. The FGC is really squandering its opportunity. The big companies finally open the door and who do we send in?

Relics from Arcade's dungeons past! At least the Sexist Pig Dr.Subzero can act kinda professional. Wtf is wrong with Aris?!?

If it were my Wife, or one of my Daughters this punk would be crapping out his teeth!

The FGC had better make up it mind! If you want to enter the "Main Stream" the "Big Leagues" with all the "Big Money", these effing clowns need to GROW UP!

Keep your PERSONAL VIEWS at home! Treat people (especially women) with class and dignity! You wouldn't want the camera aimed at your Mom's chest! Or your sisters lap!

Valle is a stand up guy. A real professional. Valle, or anyone who knew what was going on should have told this dude to cut the Bull Sh!t.

@67

Thumbs up.

Just because Aris does "a lot" for the community does not excuse his actions. The point is that he is not a good guy.

honestly i think capcom brought this on theirselves they should have reconed aris and knew thats the kind of person he was hes an old vulgar dude period you dont knowingly hire people like that i like aris think hes funny yea hes a pig but he does him and dont give a **** about it but capcom should do a bit more looking in to people they are putting in a live stream reality show because thats playing with fire straight up

@69 That is quite rude. Are you insinuating that women have no shred of dignity and self respect unless there is money involved? That is a very sexist thing to say, and I hate to bring up the S word, I'll be honest with you, I was deeply offended and disrespected by what you just said.

If you want to see the fighting game community move into the realm of the public eye and big money, people need to change their how they present themselves when given huge opportunities. Props to the SF team (especially the ones we know and love for being vulgar) for attempting putting their best foot forward.
If you want to know who should represent the community in the future compare Alex Valle to Aris. Publicly, professionally and community-wise Alex Valle is an shining example of what other figureheads should aspire to be.

This just makes the fighting game community look bad.

So many pathetic comments on here. A bunch of you are trying to blame her for making a scene, but then you turn around and blame her for not blowing it up on the stream days ago. You're not making a point you're trying to make her the guilty person in all of this.

There are so many possibilities for why she didn't say something on the first day. Factor in the pressure of earning $25,000. Factor in the pressure of most of the cast being friends w/ Aris. Factor in the contract that doesn't allow her to talk directly about the show. Factor in that not everyone in that situation would speak up.

Blaming someone for not speaking out against sexual harassment is like blaming a LGBT person for not speaking out against gay bashing. When you're on the receiving end and you know there's a good chance that you're surrounded by people on the other end you're not always going to be so quick to speak up. And it's obvious that there are tons of people on the opposite end just judging by the comments on this post.

I'm starting to wonder if this is why many people in the FGC are afraid of eSports. Once eSports hits they're going to have people calling them out on their bigoted BS.

Alex is coaching, Aris is bitching.
lol @ people who think Tekken team intentionally lose all games.

Just so people don't forget

THIS IS A "REALITY SHOW"

I know you want to think it's magically 100% legit cause it's something you enjoy, but sorry to break it to you...

I'd also like to point out that when an interviewer asks you questions and you answer them, that's not "making a scene". She didn't go in there with the intent of blowing up anyone or anything. In fact if you noticed Matt asked her if she wanted to do the interview and at first she said no. I get the feeling he talked her into it so he could get his apology on stream so people knew this wouldn't be tolerated. And at the end of the day Matt's going to get that interview regardless because its in the contract.

I don't understand the mentality people have where they say stuff like "this is who Aris is". I mean, so what? How is that a justification for sexual harassment? Should murderers be allowed to murder because "that's how they are"? Yeah, the example is a bit extreme but you should get the point. Obviously Miranda is no angel either and have both lied and schemed on this show herself, but saying this is her fault and not Aris' because she didn't stand up for herself is just plain wrong. The bullying/sexual harassment/whatever you wanna call it should never occur in the first place.

This is why Jared from Twitch blew up Aris yesterday. Aris tried to tell him you can't have the FGC without the negativity and trolling. Jared said, "I can't have Street Fighter without the sexual harassment?"

#44 its over 9000!

#52 Real talk.

#53 My thoughts exactly.

#59 Someones missing hes collar.

#61 Wake up, this is not wonderland.

#67 bias much? and LOL at: *Keep your PERSONAL VIEWS at home!*

#69 is spot on.

People need to stop putting woman in a pedestal. they are what they are. Clue: Not children. Man or woman they both should be treated equaly.

#82

Men and women should be treated equally. But at this moment the issue is with someone who is a woman being treated by a man how that man would not treat men. And even if he did, being equally bigoted towards men and women is still bigotry.

@76 Exactly.

Aris does seem like a nice guy, however if you watch streams with him in them he does happen to harass females quite often.

Li Joe blew up with 3000 viewers

staged

#87 Do you think it makes you cool and edgy to spam memes for no reason? F*ck outta here.

Yan made a very smart decision, and #67 and #69 hit the nail on the head. Regardless of whether Aris has done ANYTHING for the community, he has not shown that is mature. That's the thing about sexual harassment; the victims can't do anything buy try to shake it off and bear a grin to last through it but when you're stressing over $25,000 constantly, trying to grind out a game, and you constantly feel belittled in front of 10,000 people as a joke to a guy who SHOULD be able to act like a Papa Valle and actually coach his team like a mature adult who respects women and respects members of the FGC like Yan - and yet chooses to feed the stream monsters and remain ignorant - that's bullsh!t and should not be allowed.
When Aris signed up for the coaching job he should have known there was a little more to being a coach than keeping his potty mouth off the stream.
And now we see every punk a$$ male gamer thinking their some kind of tough guy by calling out the *victim* and blaming the *victim*? Yeah, that makes sense...some gamers just can't handle real life problems I guess.

lol whatever happens in the FGC happens, my only concern is about the games being put out. So long as Capcom, Namco, Arksystem, or whomever puts out good fighting games i'm still in.

Every White Knight here should also know that in this reality show/competition woman are allowed to compete against men for a reason, now think about that for a second.

I was tolerating this show up until this point. There were a few issues, but it was entertaining. But I don't think I can watch anymore after this.
Whatever though. I give them props for an innovative promotional event.

If superyan was hitting on Aris and stating sexual comments, mentally, most of us would just not care. Honestly, we judge sexual harassment, rape, physical abuse, and even mental abuse much more differently if the victim was either a guy or girl. I think Aris was just trying to put on a good show. I think he was kind of bored throughout the whole production and was trying to entertain himself and the stream by focusing on the things he found interesting; which is a single woman in a sausage fest. Superyan may not have liked how Aris treated her but their were numerous times when she could of spoken out about it. Let's not forget, this is not her first time on shows so she's not a shy and timid person. Maybe at first she ignored it but ultimately got annoyed and used it as an excuse so she could bail; she knows that she can't win. I think that Aris should be much more careful from now on just to prevent himself from getting wrongly accused. I say that because Aris' appearance and personality can cause him to be accused of being guilty when he's actually innocent. Again, I don't know any of them but I think this whole thing is blown out of proportion.

I wonder how many people actually watched Li Joe's stream and even Marn's stream today. Check out the archives for some interesting points from the top players and people who were actually there.

Like Sherry said, Aris would have stopped if you would be "raw" with him and tell him to f*** off. Even Starslay3r says she was offended by Aris when she first met him, but after getting to know him she said, "He's actually a really nice guy."

Maybe SuperYan did ask him to stop off stream, maybe she wasn't clear in what she meant. But Aris never had any malicious intent. His goal wasn't to drive SuperYan into a corner. It's sad that it went down this way but it seems like she let it get this far.

On a less serious note, does anyone else think she would have been less offended if Aris was good looking?

@82

Yeah Brah, I'm typing from HOME! Not running a effing reality show!

Had Capcom invited me in I'd have kept that PIG Aris under control. Believe that.

And yes, I'm a reeeal tough guy.

@91

What the hell do you mean by that?

@96

I second that, what does he mean?!

Aris come off as a total douchebag. What is he talking about ''I try to bend the rules''? He kept zooming in on her ass when she told him to stop.

THEY TOOK THE VIDEOS DOWN ?
WHY DID SHE LEAVE AND WHAT DID ARIS DO ?

This is so embarrasing. I guessed something like this would happen when they announced CrossAssault. At least 12 year old stream monsters are happy about all of this. *sigh*