VesperArcade finishing up King of Fighers 13 challenge trials, considers them the hardest of any fighting game

At first Mai's voice is cute
But after watching VA trials, it has become really annoying

Yeah, Blazblue's challenges were bloody hard to do. It took me a long time to get 100 challenges completed trophy.

I'm going to start doing the KoF13 trails in order to get the trophy for that to. Its going to be one hell of a journey.

KOF was fun, but kind of off-putting.

People complain about how the trials in SSF4 and (U)MVC3 don't help people to learn the game......say hello to KOF. Those trials were ridiculous.

Oh yeah, inb4 the "Heh, KOF takes REAL skill" trolls show up.

Ugh, I'm sorry but Marvel 3 is like at least 2x as hard as SSF4 when it comes to execution. I can do most of the hard stuff on SSF4, but I can't do the simplest BnB's on Marvel.

@ #1

Pretty much every Va gets annoying if you listen to the same sentence 20 times in a row.

I personally don't think KOF is too hard of a game, most people rely on simple combos to win.

The only difficult combos I see during KOF matches are HD combos or weird corner-specific drive-cancel combos.

@5 I hear that alot I asked afew people and some said they can do all the trails on marvel 3 easy but cant do the ssf4 ones and vise-versa,but yeah kof13 trails are just really hard and I agree on the bb trails

I was saying holy cow to myself while watching this. KOF13 trials look so tough. lol

@5

But remember that most combos in (U)Marvel can be done by putting on X Factor. At least the first 7 usually don't ask you to do X factor mid combo so you can just put it on at the start and hammer at the combo.

Mission 8 is always an X factor combo and missions 9/10 which are the assist and unique combo missions could as you for them.

@11

Filter works perfectly fine for me. Stop b*tching about KoF13 and how the filter supposedly "doesn't work".

Note: I still see Some SF stuff coz they are mixed in with other games I want to see so. I don't complain coz I respect that other people like SF even if I don't.

MVC3 - 3 (here i agree, easiest by far!...dunno about challenges never hang there for too long, but the game difficulty overall is a joke, not to mention comboability!)
SSF4 - 6 (...challenges are pain in the ass here! difficulty through fights are somewhat easy, but in general timing and spacing in SSF4 make it overall quite complicated so i give it this score...)
3rd Strike - 6 (its not much different from SSF4 in MY opinion gameplay wise, yet again parries are difficult to pull off and without being able to do them game feels incomplete and not let you enjoy it fully and offcourse increases overall difficulty of the game...)
UMVC3 - 4 (not by a huge lot more difficult than MVC3, its just overall rebalancing which really does the trick...)
Blazblue - 10 (now thatsm ust be the most difficult fighting game i've ever played and the most complicated, i could start from challanges and finish with overall game difficulty and AI system and that wouldn't be enough to cover whole picture!...)
KOF 13 - 9 (if its not the same difficulty to BlazBlue than its freaking dam close! yet again this game overall is damned complicated...and yes in my opinion its still LESS difficult than BlazBlue!)...

@15

I want KoF13 and SCV here actually. I love those games.

I like that Eventhub covers more games now, they don't limit themselves to just Capcom fighting games which in return gets them more people visiting the site and joining in on this community.

If you hate it that Eventhub is expanding than you can simply leave.

Don't worry about him, just a troll.

@11

Wow your annoying.

Wow, KoFXIII doesn't f*ck around XD

What, VesperArcade was mentioned and there are no $8.95 jokes? I guess the stream monsters aren't awake yet.

LOL this guy.

@ #6
But Mai is an exception, as she says the same thing after her Hyper, and when the trial is complete
K', Kyo and the others are just fine, her voice is the problem

Yok, Nippon Ichi :D!

Translation: Yes, I'm the best. I just had the weirdest image of Noel Brown saying this.

sick

hardcore challenges

3SO is almost as bad as BlazBlue if you ask me...

just be happy SF4 made it possible for all u noobs to be here who claim to not like the game. KOF trials are near impossible.. desk i want to see some videos lol

@#4 LOL

Man, makes me not want to try these trials. Holy hoof!

SF4's combos are much harder for me. I can do Kyo's dp into rdp cancels, and I'm pretty ok with stuff like df+hk into hcb+hk.

But I can't consistently link stuff together. I tend to drop Yun's 3x cr.mp or Sagat's 3x low short pretty often, resulting in dropped combos, and eating a lot of mashed srks or spds. I guess that means I'm pretty good with motions but suck at timing.

Give it up for ono for putting that guitar hero type timing bar on top. It's very helpful for.timing things you guys mentioned having issues with. Where's my boy patinum!? Err I mean aluppoj! Dude has platinum with all street tighter games! And did super/ae 3 times!

@30

Thanks for the shout out. I've done 100% of the SF4 trials at least four times. Tbh, the KOF ones don't look very difficult. And there seems to be WAY less to do. Sol good though, I really can't comment on them because I haven't tried them.

SSF4/AE has 840 trials!

I'd also like to add that simply making moves harder to perform doesn't automatically = better.

A game should strike a balance between execution and ease of use. IMO SF4 hits that mark.

@30 what is this GUITAR HERO type bar you speak of?

@31- Wow Aluppoj, in terms of trials that is some serious dedication you have there. Respect good sir, respect.

#31 The Sf4 trials are easy i did all of them in little over an hour my first time the trails in kof are in a completely different level their are no easy inputs and the timing on the combos in kof are so strict you say that they look easy well get the game and try them they are in no way easy and Kof13 is a great game you would differently enjoy it.

@34

1) There is no way you completed Every Trial in one hour. Do the math on that. 840 trials in 60min? I don't think so. Sorry.

2) KOF13 does have input short cuts. Look it up.

3) I'm sure I would enjoy the game. I'm not doggin it. KOF is awesome. But I'd be wasting my money because I'm too addicted to SF to bother with it.

Have fun brother. I have no beef with you or KOF.

@33

Thank you kind Sir.

@32

When you connect a hit your health bar has a Flash of Light that scrolls across. You have until that light diss appears to connect the next part of your link.

It goes faster or slower depending on your frame advantage.

Hope that helps.

@34

Sorry to triple post, but.....

Your comment is so hilarious to me. Putting time restrictions aside. Your telling me you knew how to do.

C.Viper. 24
Ibuki. 24
Abel. 24

The first time you played?! I'm so sorry my friend, but your just trying waaaay too hard to make SF sound easy compared to KOF.

There is simply too much in SF to believe you'd know everything the fist time you tried them. I couldn't do it in an hour and I've done them all! You'd never have known which ones were corner specific, mid screen specific, quarter screen specific, jump specific, wall bounce specific after one hour.

I'm simply not buying it bro.

#37 as soon as i read his post he sounded like a troll to me. the type to rubbish sf4 with some fairy tale claims only to praise his preferred game in the same sentence. lol @ a little over an hour

If EH really wants to step out, they should do something different, like cover some of the old school fighters that were awesome, rather than expand the site to touch on more modern day crap.

Where you at DS and GG?!

King of fighters is very discouraging trial wise but I still like its mechanics and what not just wish the bnbs were easier to do so I could be somewhat more understanding of the combo system

@22

Actually she says she is Japan's Finest, though in this game, it sounds like in broken english it says ME BOUNCEY!

I think the trials i have the most problems with is the one with linking and comboing into Command throws.

I'm not into doing trial modes at all lol. However, I do the trials to characters I want to learn.

I wouldn't call myself an 'execution heavy' player but I found UMVC3 and SF4 combo trials much easier than 3SO and BB. Secondly, unlike the other 2d fighters SF4 doesn't use execution heavy combo's in real matches. I've seen plenty of Kof guys rip people apart with those complex HD combo's in real matches which seems to be the norm for Kof13. BB combos can be hard as well depending on the character you pick.

Overall I agree with Vesper Arcades Scores out of 10 for the trials.

PS I'm loving Kof13 :b

@31 Im new in ssf4 and I love it but finished Juri's trials on the first day
U say they are 840 trials but dont forget that more than 300 of them is just an input of a simple move

on the other hand KOF13 trials are hard but alot of them are not practical...so its now a way to judge the game

both games are great and fun but kof needs more time to learn

@31 Im new in ssf4 and I love it but finished Juri's trials on the first day
U say they are 840 trials but dont forget that more than 300 of them are just an input of a simple move

on the other hand KOF13 trials are hard but alot of them are not practical...so its not a way to judge the game

both games are great and fun but kof needs more time to learn

It's not that the trials are hard or anything, it's because the combos are so fuking long that you can't simply do it with just pure muscle memory, you have to split a single trial into 3 or 4 small section and practice them before you pull the entire combo off. And what's the worst thing is that you have to do it on every character for multiple times. Personally I like the way it is because games are just too easy these days a bit of challenge is needed and it's fun to do it.

@43,44

Ok. I'm very happy for you. I'm also not sure why your telling me this? Finishing Juri took you a day? Great! It's not supposed to be rocket science.

This dude said he finished everyone in one hour!

Btw, I'm not a 16 year old new gamer. I've been around the block and played every KOF until 12/13.

Saying that 300 of the trials are "easy", that's true. But it comes down to your commitment when you talk about getting 100%. It's a battle of more than skill... It's a battle of will.

Did you do 100% of either game? I mean, if you did like 20 trials from each game why should I count your opinion as valid? Because you finished Juri? Her trials were moderate to low difficulty. Did you finish C.Viper? Or Vanilla SF4 Gen?

Oh, I'd like to point out AGAIN, that I wasn't bashing KOF. I said the game looks awesome. But "TO ME" the trials don't look that tough.

And maybe "FOR ME" they wouldn't be.

What I do know is, it would be WAY less time consuming I.E. "labor intensive" to do 250 trials vs 840! (I'm guessing on the 250, as I don't know exactly how many characters are in KOF13, 25?)

@47

True, but if I can complete nearly 99% of the SF4/SSF4 trials with a standard PS3 pad, then KOF13 trials will be a lot difficult to do on a pad and it is not practical to complete all KOF13 trials on a pad. Remember, even Vesper Arcade found KOF13 trials hard and they do those trials on a FIGHT STICK, not pad. Yes, SSF4 has 840 trials but there are 24 trials for each of the 35 characters and the 1st half of each 24 trials are easy. As for vanilla SF4, if you count the HARD trials, there are 250 trials in total. I have like 5 trials left to do and I'm trying to do it all on a pad. I've played KOF13 but it was on a demo and in terms of execution, it is so difficult to pull off hard combos on a pad. Game like KOF13 has to be played on a fight stick, not pad. Also, 3S trials were a bit harder to do than SSF4 trials. Don't get me wrong, I am a big SF fan and I'm just explaining my own experience.

@48

Gotcha Honda,

Your on my friends list. So you'll notice if you check my trophies I've also 100% 3Sonline. And I also play on PAD!

Btw, vanilla SF4 had way more trials than that. If you remember the lumped them together. So you'd have like 10 combos under 1 trial section. And C.Viper 24 was glitched in vanilla. It wouldn't register the burn kick (even if you landed it) unless you hit it during the first few start up frames.

Idk what to say guys. Maybe Vesper Arcade has done the SF ones so many times he feels they are easier now. I know I do. But the KOF ones don't look that tough to me.

Just my opinion.

@48

One more thing.

Not trying to down you, your my bro and all. But you still have "5 trials to complete"? The games been out for 3-4 years bro.

I guess they aren't so easy.

@50

Hey man, I understand that, but TBH, I didn't really play SF4 a lot and even though I bought SF4 on the first day of its release, I didn't have a PS3 at that time until around mid-2010. I was playing SF4 at my cousin's house and from Feb 2009 to around mid-2010, I played SF4 for like just over 10 hours in over a year lol and I didn't touch the trials at the time until I owned a PS3 around the time when SSF4 came out. You can check out my trophy collection and look at the time I've played SF4. When SSF4 came out, I played that game a lot and unfortunately, I didn't get to play SF4 at its peak. Yeah, the Viper trial 4 on SF4 was weird but I did complete it in the end.

Also, I'm not trying to say SF4/SSF4 is easy. What I'm trying to say is that the mechanics in SSF4 are forgivable but there are also 1 frame links, double tapping etc for the hardcore players. Execution-wise, SF2 and SF3 were more harder than SF4. KOF13 is a game in its own right and the mechanics are very hard. Yes, SF4 has more trials but the normal ones were easy and thats why I mentioned the HARD trials. When I have time, I try and complete all the remaining trials (I got nearly 99% for both SF4/SSF4) but at the moment, I'm training and playing online lol. SF4 is easy to play but hard to master.

@41 I know right? i always said that! haha.

Aluppoj is right, i also have done all trials on sf4 and ssf4 and it took me a really long time and huge amount of will power to get them all completed. Saying or even implying that they are somewhat easy/not difficult just shows either their ignorance/fanboyism towards another game.

@51

Good stuff buddy. I hear what your saying. Different games, both very good. That's what counts.

But....

The same can be said for the KOF trials. If you look at the first 4/5 trials it looks like a monkey could do them.

And they only have 10 total trials! And half of them are the equivalent to the "easy" trials in SF4.

@47: KOF XIII has 33 characters, and 3 dlc characters (ex versions), and each one has 10 trials. So, 360 trials in KOF XIII.

And for me, KOF XIII trials are way hard to do, that SSF4 ones, really.

@54

1) Thank you for the clarification on the roster size.

2) I have no idea what your saying here. Sorry.

@55
I finished only Juri because she is the only character I Liked beside Adon
Im not trying to get trophies or so
I only do what is useful

I also said that alot of KOF13 trials are stupid and not practical like Kula's 9th trial: canceling DP+ C with DP +AC to qcb + BD
so U waste about three meters and 1/3 of the HD meter for very low damage

by seeing this Im not interested in trials any more
they never indicate if the game is better or worst

@aluppoj

You're a fool. All of the trials in sf are stupid easy. There is no glitch in Vipers final trial. All you have to do is activate her burn kick off the s.jump cancel before you leave the ground. Sf4 was made with an easier system to bring in new comers. KoF doesn't give a d*mn, and that's the way it should be. All I will give you, is that KoF has shortcuts. The same ones as sf4, as a matter of fact. Stop trying to act high and mighty above everyone. And gens trials are so forgivable, and easy. Switching stances isn't 'rocket science,' as you would say. Loose your false pride in something like sf4s trials. You sound pathetic. Anybody can do half of sf4s trials with their eyes closed. Face the reality. You're not the only that finished them. Don't bother replying. I'm done here. You would never be worth my time, again.