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Seth: Vega, Law the best of the newly announced Street Fighter X Tekken characters, footsies and pokes important to gameplay

Posted by Catalyst
February 3, 2012 at 5:07 p.m. PST
Seth: Vega, Law the best of the newly announced Street Fighter X Tekken characters, footsies and pokes important to gameplay During a previous Capcom-Unity podcast, Seth Killian talked about how powerful the newly announced characters are, naming Vega and Law as the top contenders of the six fighters recently announced for Street Fighter X Tekken.

He also went on to discuss how important footsies and pokes are in the new title. You can hit the link above to check out the podcast yourself, or hit the link below to find a full transcript of details.

Notes from the podcast


• Vega is really strong. Has long range pokes. Rolling Crystal Flash is very effective in this one.

• Any move that holds the opponent in place is very valuable, so you can tag while Vega is doing his Roll to setup other stuff.

• He feels out of the newly announced Street Fighter characters (Balrog, Juri and Vega) Vega is the strongest.

• Footsies are very important in Street Fighter X Tekken, very centric to the gameplay. There's a lot of poking and footsies in general.

• Juri is faithful to her Street Fighter 4 counterpart.

• Seth feels Law is the best out of the Tekken characters that were recently announced (Paul, Law and Xiaoyu).

• Killian added that they're not even in the home stretch for character reveals or the innards of the game.

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recovery said on February 3, 2012 at 5:09 p.m.

Reveal all characters already, there's only a freaking month left!

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shinwar said on February 3, 2012 at 5:15 p.m.

can we get more stages

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NoizyChild said on February 3, 2012 at 5:16 p.m.

Sounds like February is going to be loaded with reveals.

I say bring it on.

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Inception said on February 3, 2012 at 5:18 p.m.

@1

The way character reveals are SUPPOSED to work is to have characters sporadically revealed up until release so the consumers will advertise the game by word of mouth by constantly discussing who they want to be revealed to people who may or may not be aware.

I think a large reason to the perceived "disappointment" of Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 was the leak of all the characters in the beginning and there was zero hype from last July through November since all was revealed on accident so early and there was no more hype to be had. They will likely try their damnedest to endure that never happens again.

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Summoner said on February 3, 2012 at 5:19 p.m.

...i dunno what Capcom thinking, but i agree with 1st poster!...WTH really...are they going to show all 12 remaining characters at once or what? what is the reason to keep us waiting so long?? ...as for me i don't care about bosses i know that Bison, Jin, Akuma and Ogre are in its pretty damn obvious...same goes for Cody and Guy its no brainer they're both in and playable! ...but show us Elena/Dudley, Christie/Leo and Bryan/Jack first!...

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NoizyChild said on February 3, 2012 at 5:20 p.m.

#4

The hype was diluted, not killed.

There was still plenty of hype just from seeing the characters in action.

Look at the Lupinko leak for this game.

Everyone knows who's going to be in. It's just a matter of seeing them in action.

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soulsnatchin said on February 3, 2012 at 5:24 p.m.

vega/law confirmed for top tier? *throws head back* AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
YEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

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NoizyChild said on February 3, 2012 at 5:25 p.m.

#7

Reading comprehension. Get you some.

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Summoner said on February 3, 2012 at 5:25 p.m.

i sure hope that there's someone instead of Leo, she's just dull and umnimportant tekken character! ...a girl who dresses and pretends to be a boy? gimme a break...i'd preffer Lei Wulong to pair up with Christie Monteiro instead of this Abomination called woman...

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Th3_JoK3R_J said on February 3, 2012 at 5:26 p.m.

See it told you Seth like Vega a lot.

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Inception said on February 3, 2012 at 5:27 p.m.

@6

I think it would be an overstatement to say "everyone" since it's safer to assume only a minority of the community is actually exposed to Lupinko's leaks. You have to also account the casual players who are learning about the game second hand from a friend (much like my group of friends for example) than actually pay any attention to these things during their own spare time.

These things give people to talk about up to the games release, unless it's leaked by Capcom as definitive proof of them being in the game.

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soulsnatchin said on February 3, 2012 at 5:29 p.m.

#8 feel good about that one dontcha?

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Bonymac23 said on February 3, 2012 at 5:29 p.m.

At #7

lol. I actually laughed reading that comment. smh
they need to reveal my dude Guy already. the suspense is killing me

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Oogaloth said on February 3, 2012 at 5:30 p.m.

I registered only to say thank god Vega is good again. I've missed using him since arcade super turbo.

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TheShotokan said on February 3, 2012 at 5:31 p.m.

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ArcShawdow said on February 3, 2012 at 5:31 p.m.

This makes me jump for joy being a vega player. He got the short end of the stick IMO in AE.

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JrockEclipse said on February 3, 2012 at 5:32 p.m.

Announce more levels like umm 8 more please... and hurry up with the characters so we can get focus on what to choose from when it comes out..

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Summoner said on February 3, 2012 at 5:33 p.m.

...people believe this list because lets see:

1.Lupinko predicted SSF4 roster with 100% precision...
2.Lupinko predicted UMVC3 roster with the same precision...
3.he's the same person, who predicted all MK9 characters with the same precision...
4...and now he's the one who predicted Megaman crappy art box style and Pac-Man riding on top of Mokujin...
...so tell me now you still doubt he=is list is accurate?

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MALDA said on February 3, 2012 at 5:39 p.m.

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SKiLLz1209 said on February 3, 2012 at 5:42 p.m.

Law is gonna beast...main from tekken for me and gonna do it again in Street Fighter X Tekken...

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pilsbury23 said on February 3, 2012 at 5:43 p.m.

so vega is finally a boss character again? :') im.....im so happy.... :')

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Bushinryuken said on February 3, 2012 at 5:43 p.m.

Here's a game that's not released yet. Btw, we totally think these characters are the best out of these new ones we released. AKA we are knowingly releasing the game thinking/knowing which characters are better than others :D.

Sounds great Capcom X_X. Thx.

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Constantine said on February 3, 2012 at 5:47 p.m.

didn't Ono say they were gonna do reveals at the end of January -_-

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Dynadyna said on February 3, 2012 at 6:06 p.m.

@ #22

Seth just hypes up characters from the viewpoint of a player -- it's all his opinion.

And I'd like to note that, leading up to MvC3's release, he hyped up Thor quite a bit. He's hardly the word-of-God on matters, just like any player that takes a liking to certain characters.

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MonkeyCha0s said on February 3, 2012 at 6:10 p.m.

@22 vega and law are considered good out of the currently revealed characters. and on top of that, CAPCOM doesnt know that these 2 are the best, SETH just thinks so at the moment so that opinion is subject to change.

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ItsMahveIBaby said on February 3, 2012 at 6:26 p.m.

Can't wait to see Tatsu with Vega in SF X T. It's about time Capcom made him good.

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fireinthehole said on February 3, 2012 at 6:36 p.m.

@18

Yea, he obviously knows this stuff from inside source. So I wouldn't say that "predict" is the right term to use.

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fireinthehole said on February 3, 2012 at 6:39 p.m.

@19

Law is basically just Fei Long with a beard. LOL.

Is a little facial hair too much for ya?

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Rome_Himself said on February 3, 2012 at 6:42 p.m.

no wonder law is really good, anyone notice that his sprite looks like they just re colored fei long? even sum of his moves are way to similiar.i kn they both are based of bruce lee but idk it looks to much like same 3d model to me.which wont surprise me cus capcom is lazy

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RyuForever said on February 3, 2012 at 6:49 p.m.

@23 He trolled us again.

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MALDA said on February 3, 2012 at 7:01 p.m.

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Cinderkin said on February 3, 2012 at 7:04 p.m.

For everyone saying that Seth said Vega and Law are the best of the characters, read it again. It clearly states that out of the 6 newly announced characters Vega and Law are his top two. It doesn't say that Vega and Law are the best out of the entire cast.

People freak out over everything and you guys aren't even reading it correctly.

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Phynx said on February 3, 2012 at 7:06 p.m.

Glad to hear my Juri will carry over well.

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General_Awesomo said on February 3, 2012 at 7:09 p.m.

This is a great day for every Vega user out there (myself included.) He is looking great in SF X TK. I spotted some new combos with him:

Cosmic Heel (DF + HK), cr.MK, cr.MP, EX FBA (Flying Barcelona Attack, Wall Dive), Izuna Drop.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=...
At 0:56

Cr.MK, cr.MP, LP RCF (Rolling Crystal Flash.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=...
At 2:24

Also, he can now link cr.MP into his Super Art (Bloody High Claw, with the forward knee launcher.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6dvSk...
At 1:58

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LoveThyCheese said on February 3, 2012 at 7:35 p.m.

@34 with the exception of cr. mk xx cr. mp xx lp rcf (only works when you are point blank in the opponents face on certain characters. Too far away and it will be blocked) they are new. And beautiful might i add. I nerdgasmed when I saw the combo into ultra.

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Ironmonk said on February 3, 2012 at 7:44 p.m.

Bring on the other characters!

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powderedtoastman said on February 3, 2012 at 7:56 p.m.

@#34

As #35 pointed out most of those are already preexisting combos tuned to work with the new engine.

As the way the juggling mechanics works, the opponent will stayed in a juggled state until they hit the ground like in tekken. So incorporating the cosmic heel into an already staple combo isnt exactly "new". just that normals wont air reset them like in sf4.

@#35
its his super now, thats why it vega was able to cancel into it from a normal. And if he continues to carry over his sf4 mechanics over, he should be able to super cancel into his super art from RCF. It was possible to do so with his super wall dive in sf4 series, but because it didnt hit on the way up it didnt combo.

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KingAdon said on February 3, 2012 at 7:59 p.m.

We all know Jin Kazama is going to be revealed

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superray21 said on February 3, 2012 at 8:11 p.m.

Juri's the best character in the game. She's the best in any game she's in by default.

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Zenfluence said on February 3, 2012 at 8:16 p.m.

Leo is pretty BA, Baji-Quan=Beast

Bryan Fury, Lei Wulong, Feng Wei (fingers crossed)need to be in.

Cody also needs in

No big hurry for reveals, kids are so impatient...it doesn't matter when theyre revealed, calm down.

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General_Awesomo said on February 3, 2012 at 8:22 p.m.

@ #37

Yeah, you summed it up well. They are old combos that benefit from the new Tekken juggle mechanic. But this is still pretty nice for Vega. It increases his damage output.

Also, it's called Super Arts, but they look like they behave more like Ultra's. As in you might not be able to cancel into Super Arts.

Even though I posted an example, I can't really tell if cr.MP > Super Art was cancelled or linked. I guess I need a more obvious example, like Hadoken > Shinku Hadoken.

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keebler said on February 3, 2012 at 8:28 p.m.

I kinda miss the days where you didn't necessarily know about all of the characters until release, or at least there were SOME surprises. I agree with the poster above that a lot of opportunity for hype building was killed with the leak for Ultimate MvC3...that and they had a ridiculous amount of site demos and tests. I was almost burnt out just from watching gameplay vids before it even came out, and i dont even go out of my way to find gameplay vids lol. I'm purposefully staying away from the majority of sfxt's vids so i can have some surprises when i finally get to play the game.

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GodPride said on February 3, 2012 at 8:31 p.m.

It's good to see Vega's getting some type of recognition albeit small but it's cool. I wish it were like that for SSF4.

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powderedtoastman said on February 3, 2012 at 9:03 p.m.

@#41
Yeah his damage input looks much better. but from the vids ive seen, everyone got gotten the same treatment. Also there was a combo in one of the vids that was new, where he did cmp>ex ST>cmp>ex ST. And seeing how thats the case he should be to sub the last ex ST and do his super art instead(only need 2 bars for them)

Also i did refer to it as super art in my previous post"he should be able to super cancel into his super art from RCF".
But you can normal cancel into super arts in this game like you would say in 3rd strike.

There was a a few vids posted here the other day when Seth K. was playing relento and did something like cmk>full rekkas>C.lk>super art.
That Vid you linked earlier with the balrog combos in the beginning you can see him canceling his normals into his super:2nd combo cmp>headbutt>cmp>super|5th combo: s.lp>Super art.
While i cant recall anyone doing super cancels into the SA's, ive seen plenty of normal cancels into the SA's but seeing how lenient the juggling is its a non issue as far as super canceling.

If you cant tell if its a link or cancel just watch how the animation breaks into the super freeze, vega or balrog arms dont even retract first, just hit cancel instead of relying on the frame advantage from the normal.

Also to note alot of the frame data from sf4 seemed to have carried over. As vega is able to do :cmk>cmp, sHP>cmp, ex RCF>cmp. but the way the ABC combo system works in this game is like Darkstalkers priority lp>lk>mp>mk>hp>hk as far as chain comboing normals. Yet vega is able to do his links which can go the opposite of the chain priority. Same for balrog with SHK>lp. So with that in mind people that trained their link combos in sf4 should be able to carry over there timing into sfxt while the beginners can stick with the ABC combos.

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SoundwaveButcher said on February 3, 2012 at 9:16 p.m.

This game is for casuals as they need no hype,they will just go to Gametop see the game and buy it.

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General_Awesomo said on February 3, 2012 at 9:30 p.m.

@ #44

Oops, I forgot the cr.MP, HK ST (it wasn't EX), cr.MP, EX ST. He probably didn't even need the EX ST at the end, since in SSF4 you can do Anti-Air LK ST > HK ST.

I was taking notice of how frames look like before the Super Art flash and after, but I just wasn't sure.

How does the chain system work? Is it just the standard magic series (LP, MP, HP/LK, MK, HK) or the zigzag magic series (LP, LK, MP, MK, HP, HK)?

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powderedtoastman said on February 3, 2012 at 10:03 p.m.

@#46
yeah i mentioned that in my post in a previous thread, about the sf4 version of the ST juggle. i was just pointing how something else could possibly follow up after. Altho the more i think about it Alot of these Vega combos require meter.

And about the chain system, during all the interviews and whatever they mentioned darkstalkers/marvel alot in reference to the system. So i assume it just just the priority system of the zigzag one. But its hard to tell due to the fact that alot of the sf4 character can already link in said fashion, not really much tekken character coverage and too many ryu footage. And ryu can already link in that order to a lesser extent. clp or Cmp>cmp/cmk/chp/chk so its hard to determine which way it is when his normals can already lead to the other.

Worst case senario, everyone is auto equipped with Juri's FSE. Which would allow people to use the benefit of the full darkstalkers zigzag chaining along with the linking which would allow certain characters to have small loops until they are pushed too far away.
Vega example would be cmk link cmp>chain cancel back into cmk> link cmp repeated until hes outta range(given vega reach would be problematic for most of the current cast)

Best case, using the standard magic series of light>med>heavy alternating from punch or kick but not 2 in the same group of strength, To prevent loops stated above( wouldnt want to see akuma with his Slp>far HK> slp> far HK infinite back again cause of chaining and linking mixing would we?)

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Xoleworld said on February 3, 2012 at 10:29 p.m.

I want too see Lee cholan or I won't be satisfied. I want to play him and vega. Thy would be so beautiful. You can't have one without the other I think.

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BeatNinja said on February 4, 2012 at 2:10 a.m.

They only have a month left and like 12 more characters left to reveal. Better pick up the pace Capcom. Unless you plan to have 2 more "6 character reveal" trailers back to back. DAT HYPE.

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gtfopanda said on February 4, 2012 at 2:50 a.m.

Seth "Dudley is so strong" and "Makoto's Karakusa has great range" Killian!

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Necreon said on February 4, 2012 at 4:15 a.m.

Finally, after 3 years, Vega shines at full potential B).

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DougQuaid said on February 4, 2012 at 5:43 a.m.

Uh not Vega, always hated that character since 92....

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USAgent said on February 4, 2012 at 8:41 a.m.

Vega is stronger?! Yes! God damn, yes!

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Raven said on February 4, 2012 at 8:43 a.m.

To think Vega is stronger than Balrog is pretty funny, but we'll just have to wait and see.

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Tensa said on February 5, 2012 at 9:15 p.m.

oh sh**t sounds like vega is back to cvs2 level

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