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Updated: Niitsuma - Jin Saotome and Captain Commando not considered, Blade was a candidate for MvC3, Dr. Octopus before Green Goblin

Posted by Nate 'Nyoro' Young • August 12, 2012 at 10:24 a.m. PDT
Updated: Niitsuma - Jin Saotome and Captain Commando not considered, Blade was a candidate for MvC3, Dr. Octopus before Green Goblin Ryota Niitsuma was recently talking to his fans on Twitter where he discussed watching the Avengers and being inspired by Loki's presentation. Here are some of his thoughts. Hit the jump to see the whole conversation.

Niitsuma: After the release of Avengers [in Japan], I have been hearing many recommendations... including Loki. I wonder how Loki would function in a fighting game...

Fujixgame: I really wanted to see Loki in fighting game... is what I say, but he would have a difficult syle [to implement]. I selfishly ask for Blade instead!

Niitsuma: Blade was considered for MvC3. We had no objections to his style implementation in a fighting game, but we were trying to avoid a glut of sword characters in the game.

9q_: What about the Green Goblin?

Niitsuma: We were trying to avoid the color green.... just kidding. Elements involving the Spider-man universe are delicate, and Dr. Octopus was considered before Green Goblin was.

9q_: Somehow I can understand the use of the word "delicate" to describe the Spider-man universe... Thanks for holding this interesting discussion!

Niitsuma: No problem, glad to be of assistance to various requests.

MAMESpider: Considering the subject of movies, Lizard was never considered as a candidate???

Niitsuma: Hm, that idea wasn't considered very much. When we considered pushing universes, it was decided that "The Avengers" would get a stronger push than the Spider-man universe.

senzu_1048596: Jin Saotome and Captain Commando... were these two characters ever considered as candidates for MvC3 or UMvC3?

Niitsuma: Sorry, they were not considered. We wanted to focus more on new choices in the roster.

It is possible Niitsuma will talk more later, but it looks like this is the closest we will get to knowing about behind the scenes discussion regarding character inclusion in MvC3.

Comments

peacepilgrim said on August 12, 2012 at 9:53 a.m.

I still think the roster in mvc3 was rubbish, mostly because of the glaring lack of marvel females.

#1
JohnJohnson said on August 12, 2012 at 9:53 a.m.

Oh yeah, Spider-man's universe is so delicate, that why Mephisto picked it up and started throwing it at the wall to see just how delicate it was.

#2
pbafp said on August 12, 2012 at 10 a.m.

I want Psylock, Ms.Marvel, Spider-Woman, Elektra, Spider-Man villains, and someone from the Fantastic Four.

#3
nooshy1 said on August 12, 2012 at 10:01 a.m.

Says he wanted to avoid a glut of sword characters in the game.
Adds two white sword users in the update instead of Blade.

Yeah. Okay.

#4
h1tm0nl33 said on August 12, 2012 at 10:12 a.m.

@2 I think that was CapDev for "Activision would have got butthurt if we added more X-men and Spider-Man character"

#5
Venom_Web said on August 12, 2012 at 10:15 a.m.

Still mad about there only being one spidey character, i mean come now

#6
JohnJohnson said on August 12, 2012 at 10:16 a.m.

No Hitmonlee, it CapDev for "SCREW ONE MORE DAY!"

#7
Terios said on August 12, 2012 at 10:22 a.m.

There are already 5 X-Men characters. 6 if you count Sentinel. They got enough reps. Would have really like 1 or 2 more Spidey characters though.

#8
GaryTheStreamMonster said on August 12, 2012 at 10:26 a.m.

I'm not sore about there being few females as my character selection has very little to do with my character having two X chromosomes, but I would've liked more universes represented rather than another DmC character where we already had two and another Resident Evil character where we already had three. The cosmic Marvel representatives were great and I'm glad Capcom decided to go with the more unpredictable choice and maybe introduce people to characters they didn't know they liked. Dr. Strange I can also support because even though we already had two Strange Tales representatives, Dr. Strange isn't really that well known as someone like Wolverine and so he isn't as predictable as other possible choices either. Spider-Man definitely should have gotten another representative though.

#9
Hadouken_Os said on August 12, 2012 at 10:26 a.m.

lol nooshy1. So true.

#10
Kuza21 said on August 12, 2012 at 10:27 a.m.

I will never understand why X-23 was added over the MANY better marvel characters that aren't even in X-men.

#11
BlakTheGreat said on August 12, 2012 at 10:42 a.m.

I finally got my Phoenix Wright in a fighting game, so I'm happy. But I do agree with #9 that some universes needed to be represented more than others. 6 X-Men characters is a bit too obnoxious for me.

While I'm at it, I'm gonna plug Ultron. Cause Ultron is Ultron.

#12
reyray0709 said on August 12, 2012 at 10:43 a.m.

All this talk about character choices is starting to get me riled up! Hopefully Capcom decides to comeback to this game one day. Megaman.EXE would be nice. There's a disturbing lack of handheld GBA characters in Umvc3.

#13
XXxxSKRUBKILLA420xxXX said on August 12, 2012 at 10:44 a.m.

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#14
Cerevega_Alexandersson said on August 12, 2012 at 10:46 a.m.

There were too many representatives from certain universes and franchises. If you think about it, a third of the Capcom side was SF and Resi. I understand that they are two of Capcom's biggest franchises, but does each series really need 4 reps?
Honestly, I don't see how Viper made it in with the three other SF characters. Ryu, Chun and Akuma all have good arguments to back up why they're in there. I think Resi should have just stuck to Chris and Wesker, or Jill and Wesker. I love you Nemmy, but you just don't seem to fit in the roster for me.
I don't think DMC and Darkstalkers needed 3 each. DMC would have made sense with just the twins, and DS would have worked with just Morrigan and Felicia. And why are you in this Firebrand?
As for the Marvel side I will never understand why M.O.D.O.K, X-23, Nova and Rocket Raccoon made it in. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate any of those 4. Far from it. But why they made it in over other Marvel characters is beyond me.

@BlackTheGreat +1 to you. Ultron is a beast!

#15
OmniSouthTown said on August 12, 2012 at 10:50 a.m.

Who cares. Someone will always complain about a crossover game roster.

#16
Terios said on August 12, 2012 at 10:50 a.m.

I love Firebrand. Hush.

#17
Firebrand said on August 12, 2012 at 10:53 a.m.

@15

(Hey! What did I do?)

@17

(Hehe, love you too)

#18
Cerevega_Alexandersson said on August 12, 2012 at 10:56 a.m.

@Terios don't hush me. You can love him all you want. I love Nemesis, Waka, Dick Gumshoe, a large handful of SF characters and I like Firebrand too, but I'm big enough to admit they don't make all that much sense appearing in this game.

#19
cancareo said on August 12, 2012 at 10:57 a.m.

I wonder how the decision process for Marvel characters worked. Does Marvel give their list first then Capcom tries to iron out the kinks from there, or does Capcom give their list first and see which ones get the go signal?

I would imagine that Marvel gets to decide which of their characters get to be in the game until Capcom says 'This guy's awkward to fit into our game's system'.

#20
Cerevega_Alexandersson said on August 12, 2012 at 10:58 a.m.

@Firebrand you didn't go on a 3rd Quest, that's what! :(

#21
XXxxSKRUBKILLA420xxXX said on August 12, 2012 at 10:58 a.m.

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#22
Firebrand said on August 12, 2012 at 11:02 a.m.

@21

(Maybe someday Capcom will realize I need a 3rd one. Then again, maybe not. :{ )

#23
XXxxSKRUBKILLA420xxXX said on August 12, 2012 at 11:04 a.m.

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#24
Deadpoolbub said on August 12, 2012 at 11:06 a.m.

Ms. Marvel, Black Panther, Cable or Venom should have got in over Sentinel. Mega Man should have got in over Hsien Ko. Sentinel & Hsien Ko were no doubt the worst decisions to get in the game. A generic cannon fodder over the hundreds of REAL Marvel characters & a nobody Darkstalker that only 2 people asked for.

#25
Firebrand said on August 12, 2012 at 11:07 a.m.

@24

(Well I'd say 4th, but Capcom wanted to pretend it didn't exist when they included me in Marvel 3.)

#26
Cerevega_Alexandersson said on August 12, 2012 at 11:08 a.m.

@XXxxSKRUBKILLA420xxXX no Demon's Crest doesn't count. I demand more handheld goodness :P

@Firebrand oh I could never stay mad at you. Come here ya silly gargoyle :3

#27
Kuza21 said on August 12, 2012 at 11:10 a.m.

@16

But this roster takes the cake.

#28
XXxxSKRUBKILLA420xxXX said on August 12, 2012 at 11:12 a.m.

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#29
Firebrand said on August 12, 2012 at 11:13 a.m.

@27

(Hehehehe, it's all good. ;} )

#30
blazebwoy said on August 12, 2012 at 11:14 a.m.

@Cerevega_Alexandersson
you are an idiot...this is a crossover game, your comment makes no sense, mvc was never intended to make sense but a fun experience
characters who shouldnt be in are
x23
Jill-because of the horrible RE5 outfit and the crappy moveset
i admit i was pissed when She-hulk and Modok were announced but after playing them and seeing them in tournements, i love these characters,
i want more wackier characters like Feylene,Ratholos, Hit-monkey,Impossible man just to piss off Xmen fanboys,gimme Rocket Raccoon,Nova,Ghost rider,Iron fist,Dr Strange over Cable,Cyclops,Rogue,Gambit,Marrow,Psylocke any day of the week
UMVC3 ROSTER pisses over MVC2 in everyway

#31
jtir123 said on August 12, 2012 at 11:16 a.m.

@29 MODOK is a significant villain in the Marvel Universe. Quit tripping. And Rocket has a movie coming out.

I would rather have a giant floating head in a chair (which is pretty damn unique...I don't get why people don't want UNIQUE things in a fighting game) over another generic human character, regardless of their iconography.

#32
BUYACUSHUN said on August 12, 2012 at 11:23 a.m.

the only way i think this roster is better than other MvC is the fact the y actually tried with this game. tried with a big emphasis. anyways there are ofcourse weird decisions like spidey having to hold the fort by himself and people like nova being in the game (my personal dislike cause is sooo the new marvel. ya know two moves with all the time to combo into something else thats dumb.)

#33
Firebrand said on August 12, 2012 at 11:25 a.m.

@31

(I feel I should be honest with you. Even though MVC2 reached out to alot of character demand, most of it was copy-paste from every previous Marvel Vs. Game before-hand. The fact the we got a fresh roster with even differentiation of personality, and some characters given an even fresher re-design is well-deserved in my eyes. Besides, most characters that weren't included in the game were replaced by a just as deserving character [See Dormmamu and Blackheart, Or Captain Commando and C.Viper].)

#34
Cerevega_Alexandersson said on August 12, 2012 at 11:33 a.m.

@blazebwoy My comment was never intended to make sense. HURR DURR.
Being serious though, you're wrong. The Marvel roster was supposed to make sense in that it was intended to hype up characters Marvel was going to be using in upcoming projects. Hawkeye with the Avengers, Ghost Rider with his film, Rocket Raccoon with his recently announced project.
I disagree with it in that sense, because it should have been a logical roster that covered all grounds (i.e. represent Spidey more etc.) not logical in that it was a market decision.
And where did I say the game's main criteria was to be logical? Quote me, go on. Oh wait, you can't. I understand it's main purpose is for fun, you clown. All I'm saying is the roster should have equally represented all universes/franchises, thus unintentionally making it logical. You probably think X-23 shouldn't be in it because "I DON'T LIKE HER! SHE'S STUPID!" whereas I don't think she should be in it because she isn't representing much for Marvel. I'm an idiot because I want the most thought out outcome? Lol, you're clever xD

#35
vicious1024 said on August 12, 2012 at 11:35 a.m.

I have to agree with you guys, MvC3's overall roster is lackluster, to say the least.

Realistically, how much better can they do though? Something akin to MvC2's rosters would probably be a licensing nightmare these days.

#36
XXxxSKRUBKILLA420xxXX said on August 12, 2012 at 11:38 a.m.

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#37
blazebwoy said on August 12, 2012 at 11:44 a.m.

yeah it was to promote the movies and we got a roster that covered all grounds, Avengers is made of all the other Marvel franchises, Hawkeye is not a solo star...yet but it was great to see him in and completley different to Taskmaster
Ghost rider is a legend he should of been a mainstay like Wolverine and Cap and im glad he's in as he should of been in the series a long time ago,same goes for Thor
mvc2 roster was awful simply because there were only 4 viable characters and too many xmen and SF reps,thank goodness that was changed for umvc3, yeah it has 6 less than mvc2 but its a much better game and a roster even with x23 and Jill,to be fair x23 is pretty enjoyable as a fighter but i hate her in the comics, Nova is awesome and has a great moveset,the tourney guys have done amazing things with him

#38
jtir123 said on August 12, 2012 at 11:45 a.m.

@37 Anyways, a lot of that wasn't exactly aimed at you but MODOK complaints in general. If they were complaining about X-23 being "not representative" of the Marvel Universe, at least that makes more sense. I think MODOK and Amaterasu are some of the reasons this roster is so amazing--it makes the cast far from typical.

#39
blazebwoy said on August 12, 2012 at 11:50 a.m.

@jtir123
agreed, some people just want the quality of the game down simply because they dont know who this character is and suggesting old characters that arent relevant anymore,sometimes some people just want the Versus series to turn into SF because they dont like Modok or Ammy.
dont people know the difference between the SF and Vs. franchises? lolz

#40
InitialR said on August 12, 2012 at 11:51 a.m.

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#41
blazebwoy said on August 12, 2012 at 11:57 a.m.

@InitialR
i prefered Jill the way she was in mvc2 or mvc3 but i am trying to enjoy her,as for RE5 Chris and having RE1 Jill,
Dante and Vergil from DMC3 and Trish from DMc1, Devil may cry 1 was set years after DMC3 and Trish and Dante met for the 1st time in DMC1, so when it comes to continuity in the Vs games,it dosent apply,the Jean Grey we've got in UMVC3 has been dead for like 7 years

#42
Torrie_De_Goddess said on August 12, 2012 at 12:03 p.m.

Some choices were good from a generic comicbook perspective, which is great for diversity. However, the final roster was/is lackluster. Rogue and Green Goblin would've been nice and I can understand the Licensing that revolves around them.

However, characters like Moonstone and Thanos not making it in is ridiculous. Here you have Moonstone: the most exposed female villain from 2009-2011. A former member of the Dark Avengers (second in command on the field), the former star of the Ms. Marvel book, and a Thunderbolt. Why she wasn't included is beyond me. Then you have Thanos who I wont even get into. In short, if anyone should've been in it would've been him.

It's unfortunate that Jin and Capt.Com. were never considered. This was obvious, but frankly stupid. I don't undertsnad how they could completely ignore most of the initial roster of the original MvC. Characters like Jin and Capt. Comm made the game feel like more than SF and Darkstalkers (at one point).

The # of Avengers in this game is greater than the E of X-Men. I would've liked to see atleast 2 more X-Men. The X-Men have the most iconic and developed females in all of MARVEL and have a ton of diverse characters that many don't wanna see do to that X-stigma. I bet many of you don't know who Emplate is. He would've been an awesome villain in this game.

Nevertheless, the final package of U/MvC3 is good for the newer generation. The controls are on constant baby mode, combos are significantly easy to perform, most of the "Mommy, look, Avengers!" are in the game. 3D models (hand drawn animation seems not to pull children in this gen). And everything else that is wrong with MARVEL as a company in 2012.

#43
Dblock209 said on August 12, 2012 at 12:06 p.m.

UMVC3 roster > MVC2 roster by a long shot.

How many of you picked Marrow? Son Son? Oh, what about good ol Mega Man himself?

WTF TWO WOLVERINES!?!?!?!?

If you didn't have Magneto, Sentinel, Cable or Storm on your team, you didn't stand a chance.

Not saying MvC2 sucks, far from it, still fun to play and watch, but roster (and balance) wise...forget it.

#44
blazebwoy said on August 12, 2012 at 12:27 p.m.

given that there were only 50 slots, Capcom and Marvel made the right desicions, though it would of been nice instead of Sentinal we got Ultron,whose moveset would fit like a glove on ultron, the Invisible Woman-since Super Skrull dosent have any of her moves and being the most iconic marvel female, Elektra like Cviper and Dormammu could of replaced Psylocke easily, with a Hand ninja assisting her in her teleports and the Silver Surfer, but cant do anything about it now but enjoy the game as it is, which is awesome

#45
Dblock209 said on August 12, 2012 at 12:29 p.m.

To me...Deadpool alone makes MvC3 the better roster.

#46
anon1010 said on August 12, 2012 at 12:43 p.m.

imo they already included characters from 2 of the 3 good games from (now disbanded) Clover Studios. (Amaterasu & Viewtiful Joe) They should just finish the circle and add in Gene from God Hand.

#47
SnakeX said on August 12, 2012 at 12:46 p.m.

I am a little sad that they did not even consider Captain Commando but I'm not at all surprised by their reasonings for doing so.

@4

Strider is white now? Grasping at straws there. No way they were going to NOT include Strider, and Vergil was in high demand. Blade doesn't need to be added in as well to clutter up the game with even more guys with swords and guns. Plus Blade is dull as hell, that dude hasn't done anything cool in the comics in ages.
It's 2012, we do not need to have certain quotas filled like X amount of black characters or X amount of female characters. Let them pick characters because they're interesting, not because they have to fill some sort of expectation.

@20

Seth had covered how that process went in the past, and it's pretty much like you say. Both Capcom and Marvel had a list of characters they wanted in, and from there they worked out which characters both sides were satisfied with.
The biggest example of this is the fact that Marvel wanted the Fantastic Four, but Capcom wanted to save some roster space. So they both settled on Super Skrull, a character that has all of their powers, and is also representative of galactic Marvel and of the Secret Invasion arc from a few years ago.

@25

You know damn well why Sentinel was added. There was no way they were going to leave out THE MOST USED character of MvC2 that pretty much represented that game's high level competition.

@43

It may be lackluster to YOU, but plenty of people think the roster is excellent and pretty diverse in terms of character choice. And what exactly would Moonstone add to the game? From a gameplay standpoint she would have been really similar to Magneto given her powers. I don't think we really need that.

They specifically said they did NOT want to fill the game with too many X-Men characters, and for good reason. They already did that in the past considering how MvC2's Marvel roster was pretty much half X-Men characters to begin with. If they did that then other non-X-Men characters would have been bumped off. Besides, it's not like the amount of Avengers characters dwarfs the number of X-Men characters either. Don't kid yourself.

Not even gonna comment on the last bit of your post. Too silly to be taken seriously.

#48
KiddDaBeauty said on August 12, 2012 at 12:48 p.m.

@11
X-23 was supposed to have a major push as a new female character, possibly to try to bring in a stronger female audience or something. Right around the time of the release of MvC3, X-23 got her own magasine. And the lyrics for her theme song in MvC3 strongly resonate with the plot line of the first arc in her own magasine.

I slapped on a subscription to X-23 right away actually. Marvel ended up cancelling the subscription though and put me on Wolverine instead =\

#49
HooliganComboFTW said on August 12, 2012 at 1:09 p.m.

Roster was meh, but Phoenix Wright in the game sold me so could care less about the rest of the roster

#50
Sly said on August 12, 2012 at 1:11 p.m.

The game's roster IMO is a bit lacking only because of the fact that some old X-Men favorites are missing such as Juggernaut, Cyclops, Rogue, and Gambit. Also some of Capcom's "old school" characters are out like Jin and Commando which made MVC unlike UMVC3. But the overall roster makes sense in the end and it grows on you after a while (or at least for me).

@Dblock209
what are you talking about I use Guile, Jill, and Shuma-Gorath in MVC2 and I'm able to beat Magneto, Cable, Sentinel, and Storm players with ease.

#51
keyzerjose said on August 12, 2012 at 1:24 p.m.

Good post snake.

@Sly In the higher levels of competition you would not see any of those characters you named being used. Not saying you're bad or anything, but come on man be real. You know damn well No one is winning Evo with that team, not even J wong. I agree with Dblock here

(Although Wong did beat Europes guy with roll or something, thats the exception not the rule)

#52
StriderZero92 said on August 12, 2012 at 1:24 p.m.

Commando should of been in -_- stupid Nitsuma. the roster shouldve been way better. sh*tty@ss character choices like Felicia, Hsienko, X23, Modok, Sentinel, Phoenix Wright, She-Hulk, Tron, Haggar, & Spencer over characters like X, Venom, C.Commando, Omega Red, Carnage, Gambit, or ANY Sengoku/Onimusha characters? fire someone! >=l Thank goodness Zero, Vergil, Strider, & Deadpool made it @ least.

#53
Jennyfromtheblock said on August 12, 2012 at 1:29 p.m.

@Cerevega_Alexandersson

Marvel put characters in this game that made sense to them you dont know what they have or had in store for some of the characters in this game they may not have had a movie or cartoon but marvel may have had other important reasons for them including them that makes sense to them.The vs games have never ever been about fair or equal representation for universes/franchises strange to expect something you never had.

All that is gonna happen in this thread is a bunch of people give you characters that according to them should be in the game then give a list of characters that are sh**ty and should not problem is that list is different for almost everyone.

#54
StriderZero92 said on August 12, 2012 at 1:29 p.m.

Demitri, Tailbane, Donavon, Jin, Batsu, & Hayato wouldve been BA too >=/. if Crapcom's gonna milk their products so much. they could AT LEAST pay more attention to what the fans want. who the f*ck suggested these horrible choices?

#55
InitialR said on August 12, 2012 at 1:30 p.m.

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#56
Dblock209 said on August 12, 2012 at 1:33 p.m.

@51, interesting team but like #52 said, in high level competition, no one is picking those characters unless one of the "Big 4" was thrown in.

Replace Shuma with Sentinel or Magneto and see what happens.

Point I was trying to make is in UMVC3, there is no real "Big 4". Any character in the right hands can be deadly.

#57
BestAlgorithm said on August 12, 2012 at 1:34 p.m.

I would have loved Tailbane, Squirrel Girl, or Iceman. I have Doom and X-23 though so I'm happy

#58
GaryTheStreamMonster said on August 12, 2012 at 1:43 p.m.

To those talking about the MvC2's roster, was that roster really as great as some people say it is. Let's not even count that the Marvel 2 roster was copy-pasted from previous Marvel games, which even then some of them were copy-pasted from the Alpha and Darkstalkers games, let's talk about game representation overall. Of the 28 Capcom characters, only 10 of them weren't from a Street Fighter or Darkstalker game. Of the 28 Marvel Characters, 15 of them were X-Men. In Marvel 3, aside from the X-Men, there are no more than 4 representatives from each series. I also hear guys say that Capcom rehash the same characters over and over again and then beg that they release the characters that have been played and replayed a million times before. Then for some of you abandon those guys when tournament results lean toward certain characters. So I don't really understand what you guys want in a roster, which means I'm definitely sure Capcom doesn't know either.

#59
s3anmik3u said on August 12, 2012 at 1:43 p.m.

I still think people don't understand. All of the Marvel characters in this game were chose by the company Marvel Comics, not Capcom. Many of the Marvel characters I wanted in this game didn't make it in and for that I blame Marvel Comics, not Capcom.

#60
OhYouDontSayThat said on August 12, 2012 at 1:57 p.m.

Blade wasnt in it cause he couldnt fight in half the stages. think about it.

#61
hazelnut1112 said on August 12, 2012 at 2:06 p.m.

"we were trying to avoid a glut of sword characters in the game."
Yet they went out of their way and added Vergil.
@61
Have you read the Blade comic book or seen the movies? He can walk on daylight which is why he is known as a daywalker.

#62
Dan_CiTi said on August 12, 2012 at 2:52 p.m.

UMvC3 has an incredible roster, though it would have nice to have some more Marvel females and maybe someone like Donovan from DS. Only Marvel 2 characters I miss REALLY are Venom and Dhalsim...and Venom would have to updated or retooled like Spider-Man was in Ultimate and Sim would probably have a bunch of new stuff like he has in SSF4 and SFxT. I also miss Rogue and Bulleta, but we got really fun/cool/interesting characters like Dormammu, Iron Fist, Dante, Nathan "Rad" Spencer and Amaterasu...oh and goddamn MIKE HAGGAR.

Sadly most people would take the same lame, ugly MvC2 characters because 90s nostalgia BS. and Skrull and DOOM are far more interesting than the damn Fantastic 4. I guess you could argue that Skrull doesnt have Invisible Woman moves, but I guess if they gave him some kind of shield special/hyper (besides the blocking animation) that would cover that.

I mean I love MvC2 high level play and its a fun game to play, but UMvC3's roster is just leaps and bounds better than the X-men vs Street Fighter ver.4 type of cast that MvC2 was. I prefer MvC1 and 3 because of this, and because of how it got away from that and it is more about how awesome their weird characters are, not mainly just "hey man you know wolverine and cyclops and storm and ryu and cammy and chun li".

#63
htownboss23 said on August 12, 2012 at 3:12 p.m.

Just face it marvel vs capcom 3 is dead they are not going to fix or update with new characters if they did they wouldve did this long before street fighter x tekken came about

#64
Torrie_De_Goddess said on August 12, 2012 at 3:39 p.m.

@48 SnakeX

There is no need to insult me or my opinions. What would Moonstone have brought to the table? Hmm more than Hawkeye and Nova. Let's see, she has control over gravity, flight, energy absorption, super strength, intangibility, and can mimic all forms of energy with her blasts (she did so with Iron Man and Ms. Marvel) and she's a female mega villain (still trying to reform) because yeah they do exist. She has nothing in common with Magneto and saying she'd play like him is the equivalent of saying Shulkie would play like Hulk (since, ya know, they actually do have tons in common). Moot logic.

The cast of MvC3 is debatable. It's diverse because it touches on many franchises but that doesn't mean that the roster was superior. The balance was superior to it's predecessor (which had no balance at all). Granted, I have no issues with the choices; Nevertheless, MArvel seemed to ignore most of their audience in favor of promotion (which, unfortunately, this game much like the Avengers movie isn't helping move comicbooks off the shelves).

Avengers in the game: Thor, Ironman, She-Hulk, Wolvie (and he's specifically with the Avengers and against the X-Men right now), Hawkeye, Nova (secret Avengers), Capt. Amer., Dr. Strange, Iron Fist, Spiderman, Hulk. 11

X-Men: Phoenix, Sentinel, Storm, X-23, Magneto, and Wolvie (in regards to long term history). 6

Deadpool has appeared in as many Avengers titles as he has X-Men as of today. So he's just a a general character (that happens to be #3 in the overexposed category).

I never wrote that the game should be flooded with X-Men, but since the X-Men makes up a huge # of Marvel's sales they should have had more spots (at least 2 more).

It isn't fair to ask people "How many times did you play as Megaman or Sonson or whoever" as by default those characters could not be chosen due to the lack of balance in the game. Being a fan of the series since XCOTA, there were characters that I felt should've returned and I stand by that. It's like if SF decided to scrap all of the world warriors from SFV (they did that with SFIII which was the best SF game and they got major backlash because of it).

#65
Rosemarie said on August 12, 2012 at 3:44 p.m.

(This user was banned.)

#66
BumblebeeCody said on August 12, 2012 at 3:58 p.m.

I wanted Dan Smith from Killer 7 and Blade but nooOOOOoo we had to have fanboys crying over Megaman in EVERY....SINGLE....CAPCOM GAME!

#67
Kwisatz_Haderach said on August 12, 2012 at 4:01 p.m.

The cast for UMvC3 is pretty terrible, IMHO. I don't care about over representation of X-Men characters, or relevance (whatever the hell that means). As much as I like the game, if Gambit, Captain Commando, and Psylocke aren't in the next version of MVC3, I won't buy it.

#68
Viewtifulz said on August 12, 2012 at 4:08 p.m.

The Roster of UMvC3 cameout good and bad with new faces of fresh and obscure ones but at the sametime it did things that are really questionable.

X-23. did she really need to be in this game? much better females then her like honestly from my opinion, Her moveset would have been perfect for someone else like Elektra or despite being a Male Black Panther.

Sentinel. okay he was overused in MvC2 so was Cable? so why does a generic robot that gets thrashed in virtually every comic they are in deserve a spot? Ultron really shoulda have gotten in over this crap we call Sentinel or atleast an updated Model or even Bastion.

DMC should have never gotten 3 reps at best Dante could have stood alone. 2 reps is great. just Dante would have been even better.

Ghost Rider should have had more work put into him really needed some more moves.

Vergil. they went out of there way to get him in over a certain Blue Bomber. Nitsuma didnt want too much sword characters but they bring in Vergil.....*facepalm*.

Dont really understand why Capcom fought so hard for Shuma still love em though, also would have preferred MvC2 Jill over Nina Jilliams but oh well.

Last thing is a problem is ppl request characters that they dont even use.

Thor *deserves a spot no matter what*
Arthur*^*
Phoenix Wright.

No matter what anyone says Megaman shoulda been in this for the get go if they couldnt get a moveset for em in classic incarnation use Megaman .EXE he has the most moves and transformations of them he would have been an amazing and hype addition. but oh well leave it to Capcom to screw around with Fans and their Games, still play UMvC3 but envision it should have been much better.

#69
portalsofmadnes said on August 12, 2012 at 4:16 p.m.

Id buy Venom, Captain Commando,Jin,Hayato or Donovan in a heart beat(Donovan vs Strange would be epic) if they were DLC.

#70
mugeninfinity said on August 12, 2012 at 4:55 p.m.

CARNAGE.

#71
HyperViperNZ said on August 12, 2012 at 5:03 p.m.

Thank god he's cleared up the whole Viper replacing Captain Commando nonsense. Sick of people saying she's only in to replace him when he wasn't even considered to be in the game.

#72
StriderZero92 said on August 12, 2012 at 5:20 p.m.

#56 i know everything youre saying, but cmon. u mean to tell me you'd rather see these sh*t characters instead of characters ppl actually LIKE? im pretty sure most players, if not all, couldnt gaf how relevant the characters on. we bought the game to FIGHT. not to get an idea of who has a movie coming up. & Vergil is dead in his game. so what if Omega Red is? im just saying, u can call me stuck in the past, but i feel in order to make Marvel 3 to the fullest, they need to make us remember why we loved it in the 1st place. its MASSIVE roster of BA Characters! old or new. relevant or not. IDGAFF. This game wouldve done much better if they wouldve paid more attention to the fans

#73
maxxxpower said on August 12, 2012 at 5:27 p.m.

My list of snarky comments:
1. Pre mvc3, "we dont want too many sword characters in the game..." umvc3 "lets add 2 more sword characters to the game"
2.Best chance to add a black guy in the game, of course hes snubbed.
3. Yeah, fox has the rights to a lot of spiderman favorites, but i dont remember black cat or carnage in a movie.
4. New choices??? How about leave out chun li or ryu of which have been in every freakin fighting game since world warrior, akuma since super.

They really couldve kept virgil, put in a male darkstalker over hsen ko(donnovan, talbain, dimitri,jedah are all amazing).
Ok end of rant.

#74
GomuJonny said on August 12, 2012 at 5:27 p.m.

Scumbag Niitsuma: Sorry Blade, too many swords in MVC3

Adds Vergil

#75
SuperiorTech said on August 12, 2012 at 5:39 p.m.

This nonsense is starting to get on my nerves. They tell us UMVC3 is done.....no updates, balancing or......what everyone wants MORE CHARACTERS. So people start wrapping their minds around the fact that this is it for marvel and here comes the BS about what they wanted to put in the game....who was considered, who wasn't. its like that idiotic panel they had at evo...a complete waste of time. if they are done with MVC3 then BE F***KING DONE WITH MVC3. dont say we're done then months later bring it up again. Capcom needs to either move on or support the damn game.

#76
SuperiorTech said on August 12, 2012 at 5:54 p.m.

@56 vergil is dead,dr strange isn't the sorceror supreme anymore, last i checked phoenix is dead, wesker died in RE5, i might be mistaken but didnt ryu kill akuma in sf final grapic novel. nobody cares about who's dead or alive, who the current venom is or not. if people want to play as gambit or blade it shouldn't matter if they're still popular.

#77
turianbrandy said on August 12, 2012 at 6:49 p.m.

awwww... I miss yelling... BLOOOOOOOOOOOOOODIAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

I sympathize with people asking for some old characters (with updated move sets). Like what someone said here, one of the good bits of uMvC3 is the nostalgia factor. People remember their childhood from more than a decade ago, and it's good feeling to meet someone who wasn't around for the original XvSF MvSF, and MvC1 to share a common history with the reincarnations of the old guys.

I found the whole "swords" quip really funny. Nitsuma trolling =))

Hopefully, with Nitsuma coming out like this... Maybe there's something in store for uMvC3?

#78
Eternal said on August 12, 2012 at 7:10 p.m.

Wanted to focus on new characters? Almost the entire SF cast and Darkstalkers cast were returning characters. Why not include some of the Alpha or 3S cast instead of including Akuma? Or what about Jon Talbain instead of Felicia? Don't get me wrong, I like Felicia and Akuma alright, but Talbain is one of the most requested Darkstalkers characters (not even a big fan of him myself) and Felicia was in Marvel 2. And there has never been a 3S representative in Marvel (Urien would fit very well. Sadly none of my mains from 3S would transfer well to marvel lol.)

As for not even considering Jin or Captain Commando. I can understand Jin (one of my Marvel 2 favs, he should have been in TvC though.) but Captain Commando is practically the face of the MvC series. He may not be the true "main character" but he is certainly the character that comes to most peoples minds first when discussing MvC1 and 2's Capcom cast. I'd say Captain Commando and Strider are probably the 2 most people think of first.

#79
Sly said on August 12, 2012 at 7:26 p.m.

@keyzerjose
true nobodies gonna win at any tournament with those characters

#80
Aran said on August 12, 2012 at 7:40 p.m.

@11
@31
@39

Have any of you read comics since the 90s? I keep hearing WHY ADD X-23, who is she? I'll tell you who X-23 is. X-23 is the character that got me to not only buy this game, but convinced me to get the XBox 360 that I didn't own yet to PLAY this game. As soon as I saw her in the roster, I knew I was getting it. A 300+ dollar commitment because I absolutely love X-23's storyline and character, and I wanted to play as her in game. I'm so sick of people who just watched the 90s comics and wants everything to return to the way it was, making it so people who ACTUALLY read the comics can't enjoy the characters they want to see on screen. Yes, I'm as big a fan of Gambit and Cyclops as everyone else (they'd be number 2 and three respectively on my list of favorite X-men after X-23), but open your mind to the possibility that just because YOU don't know who one of the characters is, doesn't mean that NOBODY wanted them in. She's had her own solo series and two mini-series, and has been on two X-teams. She's not a "nobody".

#81
xShonuffx said on August 12, 2012 at 7:55 p.m.

How is anyone gonna love something new if your not introduced to them in the first place. I did'nt even know who the hell Taskmaster was. When I saw his trailer, I for some reason like his personality. IT prompted me to even check out his comics, now im a big fan of him.

This is why Marvel was so stingy about the characters, they knew in order to get other characters well known this was their opportunity to open up their roster to characters that nobody has seen before.

Same with Capcom characters, I never played Okami or Pheonix Wright, when I heard they were coming to marvel I instantly rented the old games and played them. Viewtiful Joe as well. I have much more appreciation for the inclusion now.

#82
Lyn said on August 12, 2012 at 8:06 p.m.

Still pretty bold to kill Ruby Heart when she was pretty new to Marvel Vs Capcom series.(she was in all my teams)

However, it's still bold for Capcom to kill their own franchise.

Lyn for 3.

#83
werewolfgold said on August 12, 2012 at 8:15 p.m.

Give it 3 years.
Announce sequel.
Copypasta the 50 characters.
Add 20 more.
???
Profit?

#84
Hotfeet444 said on August 12, 2012 at 8:56 p.m.

The roster of UMVC3 is by far the best roster in the versus series. It's the most diverse, it introduced a bunch of famous characters to the series (Such as Phoenix Wright, Dante, Amaterasu and Haggar) but isn't over-cluttered with X-Men and Street Fighter characters. Not to mention that while I love MVC2, it's not hard to notice that the game is just filled with a bunch of copypasta from past games that took almost no effort at all. Here in UMVC3, the effort is there, all these characters aren't copied from a different game, they're all there from scratch.

And I will easily say that, by far, the oddball inclusions are always some of the best choices for the new game. Why? Simple, you take the time to find out who they are, you learn to like the character, try reading some of their comics or playing some of their games, it's all good fun. Hell, while I wouldn't say that Amaterasu's an oddball character, but ever since she was in MVC3, people wanted to play Okami more and more, especially those who'd known about the character but never had the chance to play the game. It gave Ammy more popularity, and now Okami HD is coming out this fall for the PS3. And that's why trying something new is a great thing.

However, if they ever do design another MVC3, I already know who I'd add for the expansion: 14 new characters...

Marvel:

Green Goblin
Daredevil
Spider-Woman
Blade
Squirrel Girl
Thanos
Galactus (Normal Size) (or Galacta)

Capcom:

Gill
MegaMan
Asura
Rouge
Jon Talbain
Gene
Batsu Ichimonji

#85
HyperViperNZ said on August 12, 2012 at 10:39 p.m.

Im glad they went in a new direction with U/MVC3 and added mostly new characters. It keeps the game fresh. It's a pity Blade didn't make it. He should have taken Vergils place in Ultimate. Trish and Dante were enough from there series. I feel Demitri from Dark Stalkers should have made it in instead of one the three that are in there now. I know Morrigan is more popular than he is but does she have to be in every single game? She even makes it into most crossover games. The Marvel side is lacking a bit in females but whatever.
All in all though, I like the character selection. Lot's of new faces to me.

#86
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#87
DR_Jam said on August 13, 2012 at 12:50 p.m.

Lol, They ex blade, but they Virgil. Also, how many Marvel characters have blades? Do blades really matter when you so many styles and variety of attacks and range/reach of attacks?

OBS: "We were trying to avoid the color green." I lolled.

#88
StriderAmadeus said on August 13, 2012 at 7:31 p.m.

Well, they do have a significant number of characters with swords/blades in the game. Dante, Vergil, Zero, Deadpool, Taskmaster, & Strider, and honestly, take a look at all those characters. All of them, have been, are, or are close, to being top tier. Imagine, if Blade was in the game. He'd be another character on the uprise. He'd have mobility, decent damage, decent health, and maybe some pretty cool hypers.
UMVC3 should have DLC. Who cares, if most of the crew is scattered on other projects. Get a new crew. I'm sure there's employees in capcom who would love to work on this game even more. They just need to speak up, like we do.
If a petition rises, and gets enough attention, maybe, just maybe we'd get what we want. Look what happened with Mass Effect 3.
Hmmmm.

#89
Ex_Ein said on August 14, 2012 at 11:34 a.m.

I'd pick Otto over Norman any day.

#90
HyperCombinationFinish said on August 17, 2012 at 11:41 p.m.

Since a lot of people are throwing out who they thought shouldn't have been in the game, I'll do mine.

I agree there's too many street fighter characters but the one that should leave in my opinion is Akuma. He's the only actual clone in this game and although he's cool, I feel like he's the only one without his own individual style. I'd get rid of X23 as well. Although she's less of a clone than Akuma is, she's still unnecessary. Aside from them, everybody feels either unique in what they do, or necessary in the role that they fill.

As for who I would pick to replace Akuma and X23? For Capcom I'd go with Dr. Wily. A representative from Megaman classic, yet not a clone of Zero. He could be like Jill or Captain Commando from MvC2, calling out assistance from various robot masters.

For Marvel I'd go with a Spidey villain for sure. I agree he needs more representation. Doc Ock would be good, although I imagine somewhat similar to Ghost Rider or Omega Red. Green Goblin is a bit more unique for a fighting style, or maybe Sandman.

I get the Spidey universe is "delicate" though. Loki's also a good choice. Since they showed us that Modok can work, I'd love to see Professor X in one of these games. Also if I could've had one character return from MvC2, it would've been Juggernaut.

#91


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