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Svensson covers Street Fighter X Tekken's netcode patch, PC benchmark tool and BBB rating for Capcom

Posted by Jonathan 'Catalyst' Grey • April 13, 2012 at 9:30 a.m. PDT
Svensson covers Street Fighter X Tekken's netcode patch, PC benchmark tool and BBB rating for Capcom Saying that most of the feedback he's heard for Street Fighter X Tekken's latest netcode patch states that the online play for the game is mostly unchanged, sans for fixing the sound issues, Capcom's Christian Svensson gave another rundown of posts on the Unity Boards. He also lightly touches on Capcom's Better Business Bureau rating dropping, and adds that there will be an in-game PC benchmark tool for SFxT.

Capcom said it's either smooth netcode OR sound. With that in mind, many want to know if the "soundfix" has any negative impact on the netcode, like input delay or less rollbacks (desync) or anything else? — zUkUu

Svensson: The patch should be live... as far as I know, it's still roll-back/fixed input (not variable input delay based). As I understand it (and my understanding to be honest is somewhat limited so take this with a grain of salt) it's an issue of having sounds trigger and play through frames that get dropped or rolled back.

In short... I'm not sure why there's concern. Download the patch and try it for yourself. Most of the feedback I've seen is that the network play is largely unchanged but just that the sounds work as intended now.

How do you feel about Capcom's Better Business Bureau rating falling cause of the problems with Street Fighter X Tekken? — SDZero

Svensson: Sorry, but there's no benefit to us (or to our consumers) by commenting on this.

How long does it take for stores to get pre order DLCs for the games? I pre-ordered a game that already released, but since they ran out they said they would call to give me the codes and they haven't, so how long does this process take? — GuerreroUMS

Svensson: Frankly, I'm unsure. In general, we hand over codes or other pre-order incentive items to a given retailer that is sufficient to cover their pre-orders and what happens after that isn't something that we have a lot of visibility into.

Will there be a benchmark tool for Street Fighter X Tekken on the PC? — iAskTheHardQuestions

Svensson: Update: spoke with Derek a few mins ago... indeed there is a benchmark in-game for SFxT so folks can optimize their settings for 60fps goodness.

Comments

DarkPhoenixRises said on April 13, 2012 at 9:37 a.m.

I noticed that before all the complaints Capcom was sitting pretty with an A+ rating but is a BBB rating really that important? Say like an S&P rating?

#1
sarif2soon said on April 13, 2012 at 9:39 a.m.

he's doing his job. shut up haters.

#2
keroberus2 said on April 13, 2012 at 9:41 a.m.

"Svensson: Sorry, but there's no benefit to us (or to our consumers) by commenting on this."

GGs Capcom

#3
StellarSTLR said on April 13, 2012 at 9:48 a.m.

Use to play orange bar players. Now I wont. Nuff said.

#4
KizaruOfLight said on April 13, 2012 at 9:49 a.m.

@#3

Maybe because uhh, I don't know, it actually wouldn't benefit them or you to know how they feel about a rating? You really don't need to know that...

Anyway, on a related note, the patch for sound works fine for me (I'm on 360). I have noticed a few times that during a match the other person will teleport from mid-air after a jump in and land on the other side of me or wherever they were gonna land. And just teleporting from jumps in general. Unless Yoshimitsu can do that and I just don't know lol.

#5
cyn said on April 13, 2012 at 9:52 a.m.

Svenssons Answer to #1: "I'm not sure.."

Svenssons Answer to #2: "No comment."

Svenssons Answer to #3: "Frankly, I'm unsure..."

Svenssons Answer to #4: "I'm unsure... let me ask Derek"

Sevensson needs a new job.

#6
Alucard55 said on April 13, 2012 at 9:54 a.m.

The BBB ratings drop is absolutely meaningless from what I've read in the past few days, so I can understand Capcom's response regarding this. Bottom line is almost every single videogame company has on disc locked DLC these days, so it makes absolutely no sense that Capcom is singled out like that.

#7
zUkUu said on April 13, 2012 at 9:58 a.m.

seven misunderstood my question. I wanted to know is HOW exactly they changed the code to make it work, if it would be so easy they would have done it right away, so there has to be a trade off.

#8
DestinyZX1 said on April 13, 2012 at 10:01 a.m.

Sven... you're a dork. There IS a benefit by telling us. Maybe this can help CAPCOM rethink their business practices.

#9
f1ip said on April 13, 2012 at 10:08 a.m.

#9 if sven does tell, and they do change their business practices, that means they have to release complete games and spend more money doing downloadable content stuff instead of disc locked content, which means less profit for capcom. everyday i'm hustling.

#10
NoizyChild said on April 13, 2012 at 10:12 a.m.

They're not changing their business practices because of some entitled, whining children.

#11
EG2 said on April 13, 2012 at 10:12 a.m.

#9. There really isn't anything good for them to say when people are actively looking for ammo to use against them. The question was pretty much a troll.

#12
armordinejad said on April 13, 2012 at 10:14 a.m.

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#13
armordinejad said on April 13, 2012 at 10:15 a.m.

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#14
NyuBomber said on April 13, 2012 at 10:17 a.m.

The BBB rating does and does not matter.

It doesn't matter because the BBB doesn't hold any real regulatory power. It's simply an external consumer service grading and reporting agency, also offering arbitration services.

It simultaneously does matter because it's one of the largest and most publicly-respected agencies in the field. It vets companies before allowing them to say the business is affiliated with them. It provides an easy-access record for grades, reports, scams, etc.

IF Capcom is planning to change some things in response to the storm around SFxT/its BBB rating drop, it really does NOT benefit them to comment on it until they have a plan in place, which can take any significant length of time in a large corporation, especially if it's public like Capcom. Any public comment they make now could well be invalidated by internal decisions, making them look even worse.

And in the end, it won't even matter what they say until we see what they DO with whatever the next big fighter from them is.

#15
BlankaBeast said on April 13, 2012 at 10:19 a.m.

PC Coming SOOON!

May 11th, Waiting to pre-order!

#16
EmeraldFont said on April 13, 2012 at 10:22 a.m.

@6

Typical Svensson. I've been saying for a while now that I'm not sure why he even has a job. He never says anything new or informative, much like S-Kill, and is often rude or condescending in his fluff responses. The only responses we get from Sven and S-Kill are "I don't know", "No comment on that at this time", and "Please wait for an official announcement sometime soon"

#17
maxs2d2ace said on April 13, 2012 at 10:41 a.m.

#17
yea i agree, but i do like seth though. seth gives great information on their fighting games mechanics and try to communicate with the community on personal and friendly releationship. this guy is nothing more than damage control at maximum overload. we only hear from this guy when there is something wrong with their products.

#18
Arcsy said on April 13, 2012 at 10:45 a.m.

No benefit commenting about BBB rating means no $$$ gained from answering that.

I guess they would want to charge people money to answer that like how they do DLCs.

#19
BlankaBeast said on April 13, 2012 at 10:47 a.m.

Seth is good for the game, ignore haters.

#20
BlankaBeast said on April 13, 2012 at 11:02 a.m.

*Sven

#21
MINI said on April 13, 2012 at 11:12 a.m.

Capcom, you don't even deserve BBB!
Your games are fantastic, sadly it has to be owned, by a none caring company full of morons!

#22
Izick said on April 13, 2012 at 11:19 a.m.

Capcom you have to fix the network , have you even play in third world country?
Ever since the lag patch ( i mean sound patch) can't play one decent match online. I've been playing with nobody in my household using the internet and I'm getting alot inputs delays and frames skipped its pretty sad. I can barely play co op sometimes battles gets cancel. Now i can't even enjoy the game online :(. Increase the connection so i have a 2 bar instead of 1 bar connection.

#23
samuraix025 said on April 13, 2012 at 11:30 a.m.

@ 4 if you were playing on orange, you need to upgrade from your current ISP package. nuff said. lag on green (or white in sfxt's case) bars like SSF4 does then start complaining.

#24
InitialR said on April 13, 2012 at 11:38 a.m.

(This user was banned.)

#25
HooliganComboFTW said on April 13, 2012 at 11:38 a.m.

lol the entitled salt is highly concentrated here, ok you can hate the game for legitimate reasons but from a buisness perspective thats all he could have done without losing additional face. no one needs to know what he thinks about the rating drop like he says it means nothing to him or the consumers regardless.

anyways some good news for those who want the pc version

#26
Devdan said on April 13, 2012 at 11:42 a.m.

Meanwhile, Square-Enix still has an A+. Say what you will about Capcom, at least they never banned me from playing a game I owned for less than 24 hours because of unspecified rule violations (presumably somebody hacked my account, and did something so terrible that they caught it in like 12 hours) that they absolutely would not elaborate on, and 'all decisions are final'. The BBB said there was nothing wrong with that.

#27
Wolfstone said on April 13, 2012 at 11:45 a.m.

@6
Svenssons Answer to #1: "I'm not sure.."

Svenssons Answer to #2: "No comment."

Svenssons Answer to #3: "Frankly, I'm unsure..."

Svenssons Answer to #4: "I'm unsure... let me ask Derek"

Sevensson needs a new job.
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-
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I totally agree with you.
He reflects very well the consideration that Cashcom have with the fans.

#28
Exand said on April 13, 2012 at 11:59 a.m.

"Svensson: Sorry, but there's no benefit to us (or to our consumers) by commenting on this."

More like "Sorry, but there's no benefit to discussing or legitimatizing an organization that holds no regulatory power."

The only reason the BBB continues to exist and maintain their minimal influence is because it's an outlet for consumers to send complaints to feel better and because they're constantly holding a sword over small companies by compiling negative information on them for people to access.

#29
gammabolt17 said on April 13, 2012 at 12:08 p.m.

You forget these people got families and sh!t they gotta take care of too. Stop being upset because these people won't kiss y'all ass. You're all a$$holes, of course they don't wanna pander to a bunch of disrespectful ass miscreants. Nobody ever comes with constructive criticism, you just hate. Whether you're right or wrong is beside the point. Look at how y'all come at these people. They're human beings, not people you can just order around to make your games EXACTLY like you want them to be made.

#30
Izick said on April 13, 2012 at 12:11 p.m.

intialR don't judge others is you don't know about them and no don't steal from others. I play other games( like halo) and i get a 3 or 4 bar connection, while Sxt like i said above i have 1 bar connection since the sound patch. should have been options to players if the wanted the sound patch or not. I really hope they improve the online connectivity for the sake of players can't play decent match online.

#31
NeoZero said on April 13, 2012 at 12:15 p.m.

@9

Damn the salts are high, do you badly need to know what they think?

#32
DoubleShoryukenATK said on April 13, 2012 at 1:03 p.m.

My god are there idiots on these forums.

Noones self-entitled about anything. Like Bioware and EA, Capcom made promises they couldn't live up to and they engaged in false advertising.

The grade at the BBB fell because Capcom couldn't pull a legitimate explanation out of their ass. That is how pathetic this company has become. I could care less about the fighting games as of right now.

I've got TVC, UMVC3, SSF4AE, with the second two game used at Gamestop. The people complaining have a right to because they got screwed out of the experience that was hyped. They did not get the features they were promised and spent more than twice as much money picking up SFXTK unaware of what Capcom did behind the scenes.

They got cheated by having an incomplete game sold to them at full price. People were smart enough to datamine the information and report this.

Unfortunately idiots like the fanboys defending capcom, enjoy hanging out with other idiots.

Its not about Self Entitlement you retards, it's about a fair and balanced bargain. This generation of gaming is going down hill with fanboys belong to Bioware/EA and Capcom.

The East and The West worlds of games are being screwed because of you people. It should NEVER be this difficult to enjoy a satisfying game made with reasonable bounds.

#33
gammabolt17 said on April 13, 2012 at 1:10 p.m.

@33

LOL U mad?

#34
xShonuffx said on April 13, 2012 at 1:13 p.m.

@1 It's a VERY BIG issue that their BBB rating dropped to a B from A+. S&P rating has to do with their worldwide credit rating so it has nothing to do with consumers, only investors though yes they do care about it.

But the BBB is a big deal, because it's literally a buisness official seal of approval for Buisness/Consumer relationships. Having a A+ rating is a big deal, to drop so fast like it did says a lot. It says gamers basically hit the tipping point of their fustration.

Now if you think people are overreacting to this consider that Capcom has recieved complaints on more than just SFxT, they also recieved complaints about Asuras Wrath game where you have to actually PAY for the real ending.

This DLC fiasco is a hot topic now thanks to games like Mass Effect 3's bad ending now good ending DLC later bs. And a few other games I can't think of.

So I think Gamers have found their weapon againts consumers and I hope this is a major lesson to Game Companies on nickle and diming their consumers like this.

The fact that Sven did'nt comment on the issue already tells you enough. He does'nt like it and talking about it ain't gonna help them get the score back because it's just gonna cause a rage storm and bring in more complaints.

#35
xShonuffx said on April 13, 2012 at 1:17 p.m.

@35 sorry I made an error here I meant to say....

So I think Gamers have found their weapon againts "companies".....

Hey Catalyst can we get an edit option please?

#36
gammabolt17 said on April 13, 2012 at 1:26 p.m.

@35

lol You still missed "against". Just messin, though. I have no idea why Capcom receives the brunt of the hate for that, either. Final Fantasy apparently makes you pay for the ending, too. Castlevania: LoS made you pay for the ending, too. Capcom is doing nothing out of the ordinary as far as the industry goes, but people keep overlooking that. When you start getting super nickel and dimed by every other company because they have figured out that Capcom is the one and only scapegoat...You're all gonna still hate Capcom and continue to accept it from everyone else. I don't think you are necessarily wrong, but Capcom does not dictate the industry.

#37
Super_Chun said on April 13, 2012 at 1:43 p.m.

@14 - Companies do pay an annual fee to belong to the BBB and you're right that it gives you the ability to dispute the claim before they knock your rating, however paying that fee doesn't guarantee you an A+ rating.

@34 - wow people still say that? Being annoyed that the 360 version doesn't have local online co-op is a legitimate complaint. I couldn't care less about the locked characters as the roster is already rather large, but the fact that they waited until launch day to let us know that the online local co-op won't work on the 360 is extremely shady to say the least.

#38
gammabolt17 said on April 13, 2012 at 2:03 p.m.

@38

He wasn't talking about the online local co-op (and I've complained about that too). He's talking about the DLC fiasco. Before saying "U mad" became a meme in the gaming community, that's just our everyday slang, here in Milwaukee. I realize the FGC has adopted hella ebonics by way of Yipes, but "U mad" did not start here, and it's not gonna die here just because you say "people still say that?" I could easily say "people still say that?" about you saying "people still say that?" because people say that all the time about jokes that they don't like.

#39
DarkPhoenixRises said on April 13, 2012 at 2:06 p.m.

@35 I guess my question was does the BBB rating hold the same importance to the a company like a S&P does. I understand what ur saying but I did a little research of my own and the BBB doesn't seem like it could really hender Capcom's business dealings or effect the initial day to day operations of the company. That's what I really was trying to ask.

I put S&P as an example because we all know a drastic fall in rating could mean losing investors, not qualifing for certain loans, and not being able to run basic day to day operations as they use to because of the lose of financial backing they could face.

Since Capcom is a paying member of the BBB and is basically paying for the use of the BBB seal of approval for fair business practice, if it was such a big deal, can't Capcom just stop paying for the use of the BBB seal? Now I know the BBB gives the consumer a voice but the truth is a lot of Consumers don't check a companys BBB rating to see if the company is worth purchasing from. So if Capcom falls to an F whats to stop them from dropping their BBB membership and would customers really be on the look out for that BBB seal of approval?

Don't get me wrong with any of this, I am not defending capcom or saying people should not be complaining I just would like to really know does lowering Capcom's rating provide any results other than letting them know "We are not happy with your business practices"

#40
StellarSTLR said on April 13, 2012 at 2:14 p.m.

@24 No, I don't think so, nuff said. I have 100mbps internet.

But I doubt you know what that means.

#41
TorTorVega said on April 13, 2012 at 2:31 p.m.

The BBB doesn't actually do anything. It's just a place for people to complain after they've had poor service or very rarely for someone to post good feedback after they've experienced good service. So basically it's always lopsided and very few people actually look at a company's BBB rating before making a purchase. I've had great experiences with companies that have had very bad ratings and I've had horrible experiences with very highly rated companies. The BBB means nothing, smart consumers know it and Capcom knows it too. The BBB is a joke.

#42
Badr said on April 13, 2012 at 3:34 p.m.

When is super street fighter x tekken coming ?

#43
CriticalBlow said on April 13, 2012 at 3:41 p.m.

@ 2, 11, 26, 32, every similar post.

Yes, you're right, Capcom isn't obligated to give us anything simply because we want it; not DLC, not online connectivity, not even a working game.

However, the beauty of capitalism is that every consumer's money is their own, and they aren't obligated to give it to Capcom or anyone else. Consumers can refuse to give companies money for whatever reason they want. I hear all of you people going on about Capcom's god given right to cut up IP and sell it off in tinier and tinier pieces, and how anyone who complains about it is lower than dirt. It isn't my main concern, or complaint, and I think the online networking is a much bigger issue, but really, if you're going to get on the whole thing about company rights, then you should realize that consumers are well within their rights to say "to hell with this" and simply not pay these people money. Capcom doesn't want to play ball: fine, the don't have to, but then neither does anyone else.

@40: I personally think that the ratings drop for Capcom is something big, because to my knowledge, it's never happened to them before, and Capcom traditionally has a large fanbase of people who will forgive them most anything. That enough people actually got pissed off enough at the company to not buy their product, and complain about them to the point where they dropped to a B would probably have been unheard of 5 or 6 years ago, but today here we are. I don't think that this will do anything to the company directly, but it is a sign that people are willing to walk away from the brand if pushed far enough.

#44
Crysalim said on April 13, 2012 at 4:20 p.m.

I'm actually kind of amazed that things have come full circle in that people are defending Capcom in regards to SFxT.

What they did was so blatantly "we don't care, show us the early $$$" that -everyone- understood it when the game was released. Now people pretend Capcom was justified..?

Seriously? You are seriously going to pretend that Capcom didn't mess up Street Fighter cross Tekken. Seriously.

Some people completely skipped getting this game, Evo isn't touching 1v1 for this game, the DLC lies Capcom pulled made stories on sites that had NOTHING to do with video games, Ono is not even producer of the game anymore, and this game alone got their rating with the Better Business Bureau dropped.

There's this thing called the tragedy of the commons, guys. Capcom deciding to take a dump in the collective pool of the fighting game community will just ruin it for everyone.

#45
BumblebeeCody said on April 13, 2012 at 4:44 p.m.

@1
They should do. It's like us with our BP and PP

Svensson: Sorry, but there's no benefit to us (or to our consumers) by commenting on this.
Thanks for blaming me/us for YOUR mistake.
You screw us over, we complain, you say it's our fault. In short, Svensson is a [expletive deleted]

Lets not even consider the DLC on this issues. It's also the fact that game is buggy and of poor quality.

#46
RootBeerCannon said on April 13, 2012 at 5:15 p.m.

Ask business questions, get dodgy business answers. Nobody should be surprised.

#47
KissofPoison said on April 13, 2012 at 5:43 p.m.

The pitiful part about this. Is the people who defend a bad product. I would feel differently about things if Capcom gave me a decent product but their are so many bugs in it the DLC is just.... a slap in the face.

#48
kdash420 said on April 13, 2012 at 6 p.m.

(This user was banned.)

#49
gammabolt17 said on April 13, 2012 at 6:23 p.m.

@48

So the people who like SFxT are "pitiful" just because they don't agree with you? There's a word for people like you.

Skyrim is buggy as all hell, too. Doesn't make it any less awesome. And it is DAMN awesome. Even back when dragons were still flying backwards.

#50
U4iA27 said on April 13, 2012 at 7:47 p.m.

#30 - God ur such a troll! U trying to humanize a company that chose to blatantly rip off its dedicated fan base while making said fans come off as the bad guys was most amusing. Fyi its not about them making games the way we want, its about us (the consumer) not wanting to be lied to and ripped off.in case u haven't figured it out by now.we shouldn't have to pay for the true ending of a $60 game (asuras wrath) or for 30% of content that is 100% complete and purposely locked away (sf x tk).its bullsh!t any way u look at it.

#51
Iammanchild said on April 13, 2012 at 8:41 p.m.

(This user was banned.)

#52
bagel_bytez said on April 13, 2012 at 9:13 p.m.

Capcom for life! All ou whiny bastards get a job so ou can afford some dlc. So whiny... Lol. I love how Actual sfxt fans have stopped commenting tO let the trolls have their 15 min of fame

#53
MarkHighHill said on April 13, 2012 at 9:39 p.m.

I'm just really disappointed with the 360 co-op limitations. That's my biggest issue about SFxT.

Business is business, I understand.

But this time business gave Sony more than Microsoft, and effecting the gamer/consumer more directly.

#54
Kenshiro said on April 14, 2012 at 5:20 a.m.

@34

And u weren't?
lol

#55
drunkendan said on April 14, 2012 at 11:24 a.m.

Makes sense they would lose a rating. The couch co-op ally online is not in the 360 like it should have been. I still say the game is really good thought. and it's just a B vs an A it will probably go back to an A in time.

Unlike the gamer beloved Bethesda! WHICH HAS AN F!! WHOOO THERE IS JUSTICE

#56


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