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#4 Yea, Yun's upkicks should be FADCable as well imo
I wouldn't be able to stand Yun having that ability, it's bad enough the upkicks get spammed enough on wake-up, he doesn't need to be able to FADC to get a free juggle combo.
Fair play DreamKing23, you're pretty sick.
TO #4 PLEASE EXPLAIN A LITTLE BETTER. WHAT DO YOU MEAN FADC OFF A BLOCKED SHORYUKEN,YOU MEAN IF YOU UPPERCUT AND YOUR OPPONENT BLOCKS TO FADC IT IF BLOCKED? B/C IF SO YOU CAN FADC THE UPERCUT BUT NOT ON 1ST HIT ONLY ON SECOND PLUS ITS A BI*CH BEINGS THOUGH HES SO SLOW YOU SEE IT COMING FROM A MILE AWAY. I JUST WITH THY ADD JUS ALIL SPEED TO HIM AND THT EX AIR DASH THT HE SUPPOSEDLY HAD BUT WAS REMOVED WHICH BTW WAS REALLY FAST..GOOD STUFF AT ANY RATE..
@5 Irony? Well, Yun currently is the top of S tier, while Oni is somewhere in mid tier or a bit lower.
Another thing: focus can be done only when you stand on the ground. This why you can't FADC for example Vega's Cosmic Heel (df.HK launcher), because it has airborne frames. Yun's upkicks is done in the air, even if it hits from the closest possible range, he is off the ground (while Yang's rolling upkicks is not, he has his hand on the ground, that's why it's FADCable).
After all this, check out Oni's DP animation. He is on the ground at the first hit (it's a "stun" hit), after that he changes to the other hand, and starts the real DP - a lower hit and a higher. The lower hit (2nd one in the 3 hit full animation) is cancellable because he stands on the ground, but he jumps before the 3rd hit hits. Compare it to Akuma's DP, he stands on the ground for all 3 hits (HP), and uses only one of his hands.
So Oni's FADC limit on his DP is totally nonsense, he SHOULD BE ABLE to do that. CAPCOM just does not wants him to be a strong character (for some reason), this why they f*cked him this hard. He is the new Gouken.
Old Gouken = New Akuma
Old Akuma = New Gouken
E Ryu = New nerfed Akuma
Oni = New Gouken
Yeah Big Brook, Oni's DP cannot be FADC'd on block. Only on hit :-(
Necreon: Oni seriously should be able to FADC on block. If he could he would be a much better character. Otherwise, this really makes matchups like true high level Cody (Can you say.... block strings?) a real nightmare.
Ryu,ken,and even seth fadc dp and can set up a mean mind game ecept the ugly duckling tht got hit with the no nigg u can't do that too!! Lol wow
but seriously he can def be dangerous in the hands of a good playr. He needs speed and a better frame rate on his fadc game so lets see if thy change anything in ver super,alpha,ultimate,even,though,its,free,vs,street,fighter,capcom,will,get,all,your,money,again,ver.#2012 patch free but update not lmao jokes..
@12
as far as the FDAC stuff and being on the ground... we all know that some of FDAC have weirdness in regards to being grounded... the fact that guile, blanka, and a few others can FDAC while having like, A TOE, on the ground makes the being on the ground thing seem kind facepalm worthy...
esp because you mention vega, who despite being "airborne" during a couple of his attacks like cosmic heel, seem to have that toe requirement lol and are close enough to the ground even if they are "airborne" to be hit with a sweep.
furthermore, there are sooo many attacks that are grounded, but can't be FDAC'd from anyway
Also I've been messing around with oni in practice and Ive experimented with his down palm srike n I've noticed th on the way dat on certain situations on the way down he turns yellow if u fadcalmost as he's about to land so that toe almost on gro und makes sense but does not always work needs more lookn into..
@12
This makes no senses at all...
"Old Gouken = New Akuma
Old Akuma = New Gouken
E Ryu = New nerfed Akuma
Oni = New Gouken"
shouldnt it be
Oni = old Gouken?
E.ryu is still nowhere near as good as nerfed 2012 Akuma
and the 2012 Akuma is still a lot better than old Gouken.
Mad props for those combos, although all of them are for show the only one I would think is actually useful is the last setup for U2, other then that the whole video is just pretty.
Good stuff. My only complaint is that E. Ryu's theme was used instead of Oni's lol.