Heads up from Brazilanubis3.
@1
Have you seen Phoenix's nerfs? She may as well not even be in UMvC3.
Alright so Nemesis, who has the most health in the game now, was at roughly 80% life when he got hit by Vergil's level "4" hyper.. he went down to about 20% life... and after the hyper hit he was left on a crumble state, so one can start another combo into launch right afterwards... so anyone can take a guess on how much damage the hyper does? around 600-700k? and with the free combo afterwards that may be enough to kill anyine without x-factor... after worrying about it for a while it seems worth it, anyone agrees?
@#8
Many characters can combo after a lv3 into a lv 1.
Unlike Vergil which has to spend 1 extra meter for DT.
Most characters have combos that do roughly 1 mil health if they have 3-4 meters in general.
Vergil may be cheap, but not because he can spend 4 meters to kill someone.
His Ghost Sword hyper is what I think will truly make him scary, but we will see in two months
@7 without assist you are right, with assist, he does.
The thing I'm impress by Iron fist is his easy backup unblockable setup potential with anyone character (you hit low, he hits high) and that assist knocks them off the ground too. I see Iron fist as a sleeper like how She-hulk was when first shown.
Oh and as for his "lvl4" hyper, the thing is you activate trigger, proceed to beat down, do lvl3 just before trigger runs out and if the character doesn't die by then (which he probably has lol) then he's COMPLETELY FREE to die in the next combo and that's without X-Factor. Pretty broken if you ask me.
@#15,@16
First of all, he cannot cancel from everything. Till now, you see him cancelling certain specials. And part of balancing the game is also giving characters non-punishable moves so they can have some form of pressure
His teleports do have big recovery,and pressure/teleport cancel can be ruined by pushblock.
And characters can do what you described without having to spend 1 meter in a power up mode.
Without X-factor.
UMvC3 is a high damage game, just like MvC3.
As I said, if Vergil is going to be broken, it's certainly not because of what you mentioned.
One thing I found is that Capcom really didn't change the way they present these builds. Seth is always out of time, or, not able to do what he wants to do because the characters are always dying. I'm sure creating a showcase build wouldn't be all that hard; just enable training mode. The setups on show floor can stay the way they are but for interview etc, they really need to do this because it seems unprofessional. I mean, even Skull girls has better pre-build layouts.
Out of the two Iron fist definitely seems more polished and competitive. Out of all the characters mentioned so far, Iron Fist, Dr Strange, and Strider are probably the better ones in terms of move-sets and potential.
people bitching about vergils level 4 doing so much damage. You all seem to not realize that every single character in this game is going to be able to kill in one combo, using 1-2 meters. I'd say Vergil is pretty damn balanced to need 4 meters to kill.
Do you all seriously not notice how high the damage is in ultimate, compared to MVC3? And don't say it's because the bars are shorter/fatter. It should give the illusion that they are taking LESS damage if that was the case, but they are easily doing 25-35% more damage across the board.
@#15,@16
since mvc3, everybody is broken
wesker can cancel his teleport out of "everything" too, i don't see a problem there
even the summoned sword is not the biggest problem
it's the fact that it's a lvl 1, AND he gains meter with it on
WTF, with the right assist, that s*** isn't going away
@#21,22
He does not gain meter. Seen clearly in one of the Vergil vs Iron Fist matches.
Also, the game is made by Capcom, using 2D game mechanics. Aside from the license, Namco has nothing to do with teh game.
You want a guy uninvolved with the production do the presentation of the game?
I want to see street fighter avatars while they perform there super or ultras! Or special moves. Even mvc3 avatars while they perform there hypers! Like fuerte body splashing honda or rose doing her soul throw on ibuki That would be cool! I buy it for real! Capcom its a must...........
Its a guarentee that I'll be using Lili for sure, she plays so sweet. She brung her Tekken style over with all that juggling she can do. Can't wait to use that blonde. Vergil, should have figured he'll be like that, expect to see him alot. Iron Fist will go hard, all I can say.
18 Thats Niitsuma's fault. SFxT has a training mode he can access now for demos. You see the health and meter recharage after doing things.
Seth is just playing the cards he's dealt with. An employees job is to make do with the tools he got, not complain. Besides how much more do you need to know? They don't want to spoil too much for the fans, they want you to find some things on your own. IF the three demos of the characters weren't enough I don't know what is.
Vergil this, Vergil that... Arthur's buffs are going to make me enjoy throwing spears into that fairy boy's face.
But seriously though, it's going to be fun fighting Vergil - I like the look of his moves. Iron Fist looks impressive but Firebrand, Strange, and Nova are the new characters I called from the character reveal list.
he can teleport behind you in the corner now this is something we werent able to do in the original mvc3 but he is able to do that now. soooo vergil was gonna be in original mvc3 but capcom wanted to make more money out of one game so they split the roster in half.
It's hilarious how scrubs are crying that vergil may be able to kill with 5 meters and skill and that phoenix is now nerfed down to god tier. You'll all still be playing common 1 meter kill characters anyway like magneto while you mash on tron/sentinel assist. Unless you're not completely stupid GTFO
Oh yeah everyone crying had too many tears in their eyes to see that the teleport IS punishable and it's not a sure fire escape tactic it's a trick to hopefuly save you if you make a mistake and the opponent is too slow to catch on. If anythig vergil needs buffs like being able to do a lv3 and not lv4 and he and strider need more time with the swords and rings lv1. Well it should be a lv1 for strider but then people would cry that they cant winwith mag/sent/phoe/wolv/wesk/dante/tron......*YAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWNNNNNN*
(Vergil is gonna be the new Wesker until they show his health - very possible though)
i truly feel like all characters should have another super combo added to wat they already have..how about guiles double flash kick, kens shinryuken or reppa, rolentos wire sweep, sagats tiger shot.. tekken characters too! a second revenge guard or super combo wudnt hurt at all, it would add more excitement if anything.. comon' capcom
(They do have more than 1 super, yall are forgetting it's a team game :) )
@#29
seth clearly said he which means he meant vergil.
I guess Iron fist will be a popular choice for Phoenix users thanks to his meter Chi.