Gregaman from Capcom Unity has updated the official character changelog today with a look at the Capcom side of the roster only. 
WTF THEY LOWERED GOUKI'S HEALTH????? Oh well, at least Morrigan got buffs, and Dante's moves will be a little easier to pull off now.
Couldn't the damage of Haggar's Rapid Fire Fist already increase through rapid button presses?
Wow. These changes are wild.
- Akuma health nerf? Lmao. Why?
- Tron's assist is no longer GDLK? Interesting.
- Ryu gonna see a lot more play now? Most likely.
Overall, I'm not mad at any of the changes. It looks like this game is going to be an entirely different experience, right down to how the characters are played.
@1 I may not own MvC3 but it seems like tournaments have shown that the power levels of Capcom and Marvel are A LOT closer than they were in MvC2.
Look at what is considered the top tier characters in MvC3:
Dante (Capcom)
Wesker (Capcom)
Amaterasu (Capcom)
Zero (Capcom)
Magneto (Marvel)
Pheonix (Marvel)
Sentinel (Marvel)
Storm (Marvel)
Wolverine (Marvel)
Taskmaster (Marvel)
Now compare that to MvC2's top tiers
Sentinel (Marvel)
Storm (Marvel)
Magneto (Marvel)
Cable (Marvel)
Cyclops (Marvel)
Iron Man (Marvel)
Dr. Doom (Marvel)
War Machine (Marvel)
Strider (Capcom)
Chun-li! I am so happy right now! But...wait...which one is Yosokyaku? Is that her Forward Heavy? I don't remember that attack by name.
I was mostly going by what I've seen in tournaments and by what forums and top players have said. I know viper is good but "the best"? Unless you've seen some techniques I haven't (quite possible) that make her better than Dante/Sentinel/Magneto or Wolverine I doubt you could say she is THE BEST.
@17 I could have sworn yosokyaku is the stomp when you press down medium in the air that can be done 3 times in a row.
I wonder if you can air weapon change to glaive and otg relaunch off a ground throw with ammy. Rather than landing and changing.
Those viper changes are great they fit right in with my TK canceling style. I like the wesker changes too, I feel they made him a well balanced character and gave him appropriate changes even though I don't play him anymore. Jill must have some crazy stuff If they felt they should nerf her. Zero looks amazing and I will be putting him on my viper/doom team. Viewtiful joe might make the transition to high tier if people play him right. Tron and Haggar changes are awful.
yeah glad to contribute and idk looks like a few capcom characters got unnecessary nerfs only one that ticks me off is akumas health and ammy nerfs but other than that ill be using new characters anyways @1 youre cap gona be even more beastlyxd
Good. Wesker's health is right where it needs to be. Not above average, not below average. Just right, like Ryu's.
Interesting how Jill got nerfs even though barely anyone used her.
My man Spencer and my girl Hsien-Ko are looking good though.
Yay alittle extra life for Zero!!! (To be honest those 30,000 are really helpful!)
Surprising to see more buffs than nerfs. I don't even use L for example. The Bold Move cancel will be a little more strict but nothing to worry (at least for me).
All the buffs on Morrigan look amazing but without blocking on air-dashes... I'm not sure if she's gonna be that great in this game. I'll test her a lot, of course, but I can't help switching to Vergil.
#26 Oh, okay. Hmmmm...that sounds a little interesting for an OTG. I hope it can be used effectively.
I dont play Akuma at all, but I think they did him kinda wrong. Hope people wont completely drop him for ryu now. And Ammy was fine in Vanilla. considering the low health and all. Anyway, seems to me that the marvel characters are much better than capcoms side, at least from the old roster
It makes no sense that Wesker still has SO much more health than other rush-down characters who have way less health. It makes sense for characters like Ryu to have 1,000,000 because they're not as mobile, etc.
Sure, it's Ultimate and we haven't really fully explored it yet. But Zero and Wesker are both teleport/rush-down/mixup characters, yet Wesker always has the power and health advantage. Makes no sense. He should have 900,000 health or less with that kind of mobility, OTG-capability and damage. He's still going to be used way more than Zero is.
@Eternal
Strengths
1.She has the best touch of death combos in the game and she can do them solo(mid screen and corner) Assists make them better
2.She has Super Armor like tech with The EX Seismo cancel out of focus
3.She has powerful 5 way mix ups with or with out assists
4.she has a ton of fuzzy guard techniques
5.She has a bunch of great overheads that are very fast
6.She has a very easy to use and effective tridash
7.She has an overhead that can hit you from fullscreen
8.She has a multitude of unblockable set ups with the
right assists
9.If played right with brand new tech she can make advancing guard worthless just like doom
10.She can get kills off her throws with x factor just like wolvie can but she can do it solo
11.Anti Pheonix tech with Ammy that is a guaranteed kill if you set it up right(Taskmaster can do this too)
12.Siesmo FADC allows you to put on pressure, Extend combo and use tick throws
13.Overall siesmo game can help to shut down zoning teams
14.BK feints can be used as combo exeders, mix up options and run away tools.
15.Tk fients can be used to provide completely safe pokes
16.Invincible Super
17.Projectle beating EX moves
18.Boobies
Weaknesses
1.Poor normals
2.Hard to use
3.Average health(900 000)
35: Well really the only reason Zero isn't used more often is cause its annoying charging his buster at all times. They made it so that any Zero can do more than the basic combo now.
If you start charging AFTER you gave your opponent a few hits you can still have a full buster by the time you do his OTG since you can now buster cancel that (After a basic combo that is for nubs).
And Zero has 20x more insane mixups + his normals are simply stupid lol. But I agree, I figured Wesker had 900-950K HP, 1M is still insane lol.
@35 Zero is much more different from wesker than this...
Zero has better Zoning/running capabilities, Lv3 buster canceling everything is going to make him so safe that will be one of the most annoying characters ever on a fighting game, wesker's zoning tools (his gunshots) were nerfed while Zero's were buffed as now he can cancel hadagenki or raikousen into buster for insane projectile durability on screen, wesker may have more life and damage, but I think in Ultimate, Zero is the better character, he's just much more versatile and just as retarded.
#35 1,000,000 is average health, not insane. Ryu, Dormammu, Super Skrull, and Doom have the same amount. It wouldn't make sense to make Wesker weak as hell, as that just doesn't fit the character. For someone who considered himself a god and the rest of humanity as weak and should either join or perish, I wouldn't make sense to have him die in one combo into a Level 3.
The similarities between Wesker and zero are that they are rush down characters and they have teleports. After that they are totally different. They're teleports aren't even similar. People comparing wesker to zero must not have played either character.
#36 lol Boobies.
But 900,000 health is below average. If you have less health than Viewtiful Joe, I'm calling it below average.
@38
People discovered several other ways of Tron getting into her long combos off a crouching light or just a straight up drill. Btw I think I know the new Tron assist :)
God, their nerf/buff mentality is so ass-backwards. Was there a character everyone liked? Drop their health (except Wesker; nerf his health a tiny bit and make everything else about him MORE awesome). A mid-tier character nobody used? Give them a health buff and a few pointless new moves. Was there a character with one or two things that made them worth having, at least as an assist? TAKE IT FROM THEM!
You know what sucks? You watch some of the amazing stuff that happened in Marvel at EVO and you start to think... could we have had a little more time between major title updates? I feel like we're just now beginning to realize the true depth of this game, and now everything's about to change! It's too hasty, Capcom. Ill-advised.
Morrigan's buffs look awesome, gonna wait to see how the air dash change is really gonna affect her.
These Joe buff are awesome though, make a small character harder to hit. I'm kinda sad that they made the Air desperado OTG instead of giving him back his OTG red hot kick.
Well I mean Akuma was always known for his low health.
As for Wesker I dont play him but if anyone played RE5 then u wud understand that he is a MOTHERF*#@ER to kill.
Zero gonna be top tier easy.Less ppl will play ammy. Hsienko still very underpowered. Morrigan and Ryu seem to be good now. Everyone else I guess will maintain their teir.
so essentially, this means all OP characters (like Dante... ESPECIALLY Dante), while getting nerfs, are still OP, and bad/low tier characters are rendered entirely useless...
Love the way you work Capcom... god...
Hmm... the Akuma health nerf seems somewhat odd, although I always thought his insanely high damage output was odd to begin with, so this puts him in the glass cannon category. Good, that's where he needed to be. Everything else looking sweet. FINALLY Chris is looking dangerous. Being able to cancel a dash with a combo alone is a huge buff for him.
Meh, there is actually only a few bad/low tier characters in this game. Hagger and Lei-Lei are pretty low tier even with the buffs. Mostly all keep away characters are going to be more useful with the air dash nerf. I don't see any complaints unless you relied heavily on Hagger/Lei-Lei
Way to go capcom. Why couldn't you just keep akuma the same. It's not like he was overly cheap like some other characters. Way to force Ryu down all akuma users throats.
Zero needed less health, Wesker needed less health. If anyone needed a health buff it was Ammy>Zero. Zero and Wesker are just about as bad as wolverine in my books. Atleast wolverine didn't have a projectile to go along with his teleports.
If anything Wesker got buffed. Remember when his glasses comes off he gets faster, stronger, and more combos.... -Seth killian
I thought Haggar's first super already got more hits from mashing, did it really need more?
What does this mean? -Decreased untechable time of Assist ß (Cold Star)
Akuma nerfs are dumb and mash for more dmg on his raging demon akuma is mid-tier now lol
Haggar's Cr.H OTGing while no longer being cancelable is kinda weird at first glance, but it makes enough sense to me after thinking about it. Now he can OTG after landing a lariat if you don't want to spend or just don't have the meter. Probably can X- factor it, wolverine style, if needed. Adding invincibility to rapid fire fist makes sense, what with his grappler/larger character status. I'm gonna give Haggar another shot when Ultimate comes out. I'm thinking that lariat will be a lot more useful now that there is no blocking during air dashes.
I don't play her, but Hsien Ko is by default much better in ultimate than she was in vanilla. The reason being that most of the other powerful assists got nerfed in some way. Haggar's lariat causes soft knockdown, Tron's fire lost invincibility (maybe it will still have a good hitbox, but I don't know what it's particularly good for anymore), Akuma's tatsu lost priority and does soft knockdown, and sentinel's drones are now a block string (not sure if this change is still true, as it wasn't in the log, but I know it was changed at some point). This makes her assist one of the best in the game (when armored), if not the best. One thing is for sure, Ultimate is going to be a way different game than vanilla.
@#56
Bite your tongue my good sir I care about jill alot she is one of my mains. Those nerfs dont seem to bad though
Kind of sad about the Tron nerfs. She still looks viable and I'll still play her, of course, but I just got some of her really long combos down... and now they're changing how well her boulder attack works depending on the length of the combo :P I've always used that to extend the middle of my combo and keep it going to a multi-super finish!
Ah well, it DOES force creativity with the character and learning new tricks rather than the same-old tactics from the previous version ;) That's kind of a cool thing when you sit down and think about it. Most all of the cast is going to have something new to learn, even if it's only timing.
#65
That's right.
Lei-Lei is generally my first on-point. I do what I can with her, then when things get scary, I go ahead with the now semi-GDLK assist (since her HP is lower due to the damage I probably sustained). She can be so much better, and easily, so easily. Just look at her in Vampire Savior. S cancel that pendulum, for starters!
The last thing she needed was f.M -> f.H. The last thing. Then they go and decrease active frames for her c.M? Was that really such an issue? Well, if "decreased untechable time" means what I think it means, then I might be able to pull out another few hits for damage.
My only real issue with Akuma is the abundance of jump backwards -> air hadouken x19999
If they slowed that down a little, I would have said he was mostly fine.
@72
Yeah, from using Tron for the GDLK assist, I learned how to play her really well. Definitely won't be using her for Gustaff fire anymore in Ultimate, though. I might build a team around her with her on point when Ultimate comes out :P.
V-Dodge?! whoa... this will either make or break
yea viper is way up there in a tier on her own, but only marlin can open that potential, and since he put so much time into it, he sux at any other characters lol
i suspect, now that magneto can pull people in for his focus atck, ammy is gonna get kicked out of his team
#45
100k is above average in MvC3. 910k is average which was Sent's health.
Jill wasn't never broken. Jill is a great character, and isn't even close to being the worse character in the game. people just don't want to put in the time to learning her, which I have and don't regret doing so. Anybody willing to learn Viper and jill automatically gets my respect.
Wesker breakdown.
Nerfs: Gun BS Removed... slightly. Rhino Charge nerf, kind of saddening seeing as it a was no proration counter that now prorates. 100k health loss, rofl insignificant.
Buffs: Everything else.
Overall: Buffed, a lot.
Capcom: "You know, Wesker is possibly the best character in the game. What do we do with an already S tier character in Ultimate? BUFF HIM!"
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Stay , Wesker haters.
wtf capcom is doing it again.
under the guise of "buffing" everyone they are taking away from every character.
as if AE wasnt obvious enough.
#86 It's invincibility was insignificant because counters don't need invincibility. They are counters. Why would it need more invincibility if it was active on frame 1? What is it going to do, bypass Projectile hypers? LOL.
And it has more scaling. It had no scaling in Vanilla. A successful Rhino Charge could easily lead to a brutal 800k-death with enough meter. With the scaling added it looks like with won't be as easy to capitalize on it. I ain't even mad because Wesker got an overall buff, and dem glasses. Day 1 Weskers represent.
#81 Actually, when you calculate it, the average health is 950,000 - 1,000,000. 963,000 to be exact. So Sentinel has below average health.
#91 With how much pain he took in DMC3, I'm surprised he doesn't have MORE health. He may have a thousand tools, but you try to do his 1mil damage combos that are extensively long. Trust me, they are so many opportunities to drop the combo as well. Even at high level play you see combos being dropped. Dante consistency is a blessing.
#81 But of course, most people are thinking of "average" as 1,000,000 because Ryu is usually thought of as the average character, the one character that you can compare everyone else too, and that's what his health is. Mathematically you still get around the same answer though.
#96 375,000 health actually. 850,000 is like Magneto's health. Jean wishes she had that much.
#96 OHHHH you're talking about Trish! Disregard!
Trish was a really fun character. It's sad to see her actions limited in the air now. And they messed up her divekick! >:(
wtf capcom? A full list of nerfs on Dante, but wesker gets buffed?? Plus they make trish pretty much useless now as well? cheers capcom.
Trish:
Can perform Trick "Hopscotch," Trick "Peekaboo," and Round-Trip only once per jump.
YESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!! this b**** always gave me trouble because she could just stay up there all night
i can understand wesker not getting much of a health nerf as it isn't befitting of the char but idgaf he should've gotten a slight dmg nerf cuz someone with combos and mixups like his shouldn't be dealing so much dmg.especially to the "scrub gun".at least it (the gun) got nerfed hitstun-wise.
Due to the fact there are 12 character being added. We should see less of the same characters... I hope wesker and vergil don't become the new wolverines.
I know I'm gonna sound like a noob but what's an empty cancel?
I was actually hoping Wesker got nerfed a little more, so everyone would drop him.
I knew he was gonna be point on my team the day Capcom announced him, yet people will always assume that any Wesker user is a "tier whore". I guess I was hoping people wouldnt whine about him so much in UMvC3, but it seems I was wrong.
@All the people whining about Trish's air action nerfs: Time to learn how to play her properly. It's not even a big deal if you think about it.
What Capcom did is give you less incentive to use brain-dead tactics and instead try to use the character to her full potential. Go watch FC Jago play her, he arguably has the best Trish right now. Learn from him, you won't regret it.
Also, the Wesker buffs are just bizarre. I mean...why? He didn't need buffs, he already was a top tier character who has overall gotten better now? Even Wesker players are confused at this considered they were all bracing for nerfs galore.
Wait. I don't see the Akuma assist (Hurricane Kick) was nerfed, so an opponent no longer falls to the ground.
For those wondering about the Jill nerfs, Seth already said there are a ton of things pople NEVER found with Jill that was so broken. Since no one found them they nerfed her so she can't do them. As Seth put it, "You missed the boat."
Most people will hardly notice the changes since they are too busy dick riding Dante, Wolverine, and Pheonix.
Basically no one should even be complaining about the Jill nerfs, however she should do better since many of the top tiers got some much needed nerfs.
What InitialR said. I use Wesker as well because I loved the character from RE first. I used him day 1, bottom tier or not.
@114 and 116
I know what you guys mean. People need to stop worrying about what other people think so much. I use a team of Morrigan, Thor, and Deadpool and I don't think of myself better than people who use, say, Wolverine, Akuma, and Wesker.
Everyone has characters they can use and/or want to use, if that reason is tier ranking who cares? I don't use my characters just so I can complain about tiers, I use them because they're the characters I like and quite frankly do best with. As long as you're winning and doing well who cares what other people think?
I'm not happy with the Jill nerfs at all. Her combos will definitely be affected. Reduced hit boxes to Air attacks will make her loops harder to do and the floatyness to her attacks will change the timing on combos.
Jill is the type of character where you have to sit down for a day in training mode and work out all the possible combos.
Seems like I will be doing that all over again >_>
I'm sticking with Jill and She-Hulk till the end lol. I love stance characters in this game :)
@16
Vanilla MvC3's top tier is comprised of 5 characters (Phoenix, Wolverine, Wesker, Magneto, Dante), the other characters you mentioned are HIGH tier. Not top tier.
Viper is very, very, very good.
But she's hard to use, so she isn't considered top tier by most people, even if she has the tools to be one of the best characters in the game.
(#1 - well, at least Capcom characters can control it, can't say that much about Marvel :P)
lol why does it look like they just killed Fc/ Twisted Jago's team lol
stop bitchig you trish players need a nerf all yall would do is fly and spam with her till time runs out that hot slut needed to be nerf she was annoying 2nd dante moves needed to be easier I used a square gate fight stick the motion to do moves was hard enough as it was so one motion and 2 button presses is great wekser dorm and deadpool are my main team my team take nerf big time but Im still gonna try to use them anyway must if those buffs and nerfs were needed no need to cry about it deal will it and get better just cause you find a fighter unless doesnt mean your dad will :P
@114, 116, 118.......Where was all that stop complaining about tier defense when I was maining Phoenix? I don't remember you guys in those arguments? And obviously I love her I played her day one without giving a flying f**k...
Well its kinda clear now that Zero will be a f***in Nightmare now. Cancelling Raikousen attacks and Being able to Cancel Sentsuizan for a self made OTG relaunch is godlike. It also makes all his special moves Completely safe. I vote Zero for best character in the game.
Maybe people are missing it but:
- Decreased float of Samurai Edge (Horizontal Gunshot).
that is a big hurt to Wesker, although it was definitely needed. As far as Trish goes how dare you fools complain about them toning down that spamming nonsense. It was complete bs fighting her if you didn't have a character with decent mobility or projectiles. I still think she got off easy.
DAMN! Stay free Akuma and Felicia players. Stay free.
@66 (Wolfeyes187) shut up. please. Ammy didnt need ANY health, are you dumb? Zero did, and most of Wesker's tools got nerfed anyway so let him have a mil. Wesker & Zero were NEVER as OP as all u crybabies said. Capcom knew that, so thats why they got changed the way they did. now dry your tears and Deal with it
YES! Trish got nerfed! LMFAO GOOD! now all u spammers can REALLY learn how to use her! Umvc3 just keeps lookin better & better! xD nerfed phoenix,nerfed haggar assist, nerfed wolvy, nerfed tron assist, buffed Zero, still-good Wesker, buffed Deadpool,nerfed Akuma's hurricane kick, buffed Ryu, AND added Strider and Vergil on top of that? bless you Capcom. bless you
@124
FC Jago never relied on the small things that were nerfed when it came to playing as Trish. If you don't think so, go watch him play and you'll see that he practically never spams things hopscotch or round-trip multiple times while in the air.
He uses her mainly for her great peekaboo assist, her round harvest hyper, and her dive kick; none of which were nerfed.
Wow not much talk on Chun lis OTG possibilitys with the step kick. O well guess i'll just wait for Maxamillions assist me vids to tell me whats what on that.
Aww yeah, Wesker got BUFFED and Chun-Li got nothing at all.
Get hype for more of the same in November!
That step kick OTG for Chun makes her looks a lot stronger after air throws, now. I don't think anyone would've thought THAT would be her OTG. You can convert into an air air throw into air-chain, ,full combo, upkicks, and perhaps another reset? Interesting stuff.
Also, I don't know how to react about Kikoanken being easier to do. I had issues doing it consistently in Vanilla, and when I went to the Fight Club in NYC I never missed it once in my combos. I thought it was because I'd sharpened my execution, but reading this now....it seems kinda embarrassing lmao.
#132 You are the most pathetic excuse for a fighting game player I have ever seen. You are exactly the type of person we need out of this community. Really? Celebrating nerfs because your lame ass couldn't handle them? What are you going to do when UMvC3 boils down to 6 characters, because you know damn well it's going to happen. It happens in any and every Capcom fighting game, no matter how much "balance" they promise. Are you going to bitch and complain to Capcom to nerf them too instead of learning how to handle it like a man?
Although I will agree that some nerfs were in order I know you are a whining scrub who just wishes to have the game carved to your interests because you are celebrating Trish nerfs. TRISH nerfs. REALLY?
That goes for all the "UMvC3 is going to be so great and different!" people as well. When it boils down to Phoenix Wright anchor and Doom on point teams you are all going to feel real stupid when you realize you thought that 6 characters wouldn't rule once again. I mean, what else can one expect from any fighter with over 45 characters?
I'm not hating on the game, not by a longshot; in fact I'm quite hype for it. But I won't lie to myself and pretend it's going to be miraculously balanced just because Capcom says so.
@FShoryu
I would also say Yes to Trish nerf. Hell, I would say that to almost any characters' nerf. But I would be much happier if one character got a proper buff, and that's Haggar. Whenever traps or projectiles or whatever comes about, what can he do? Jump pipe? Unless you are a noob you shouldn't spam that. But nonetheless, why do we see actual pros spam that attack? It's not just because half of them don't actually know how to play him, its because he doesn't really have anything to get by it. Haggar has the hardest time of any character in this roster to get in. It is really easy to keep him out. As much as I want to learn how to get by and not be please at every nerf, it is really hard not to feel that way when the character you love and are sticking with to the end gets the shortest end of the stick.
@131 Stfu defender! I don't have a problem beating top tier in mvc3. Wesker, Wolverine, Phoenix all them. You can pick that team and I would destroy you. I'm stating my opinion. Ammy air dash got nerfed, her crouching m and standing m got nerfed. She will have to super jump like hulk to get in now. Unlike Zero/Wesker herp derping it up all the time. Teleporting, best Crouching M in the game. Zero is a priority whore who can just swing in thin hair until he gets hit confirmation, teleport do it agagain.
Hmm...Sand Splash can OTG now? Nice. That should mean Felicia has an OTG assist now...Rolling Buckler was good to create unblockables, but having an OTG assist definitely gives me more flexibility at who I want as a point character.
Can't wait til 11/15.
@140 awwww u mad, kid? LMFAO stfu b*tch, you got upset because i was talking about ppl like your scrubby ass. i like how u called me whiny, but then proceeded to complain about Zero & Wesker. hell yea im celebrating. every1, even the ppl who USED the characters i mentioned, know that all those characters, whether it was wolvy's divekick supremacy. or Akuma's SPAM-FRIENDLY hurricane kicks, were nothing but derpy gimmicks. and the Zero & Wesker that all u crybabies bitched about got minor changes. that only proves ppl like u wrong, & ppl like me right. so yea, IM CELEBRATING! i win, f*ggots
@140 oops, my bad, i was talking about ol' Wolfyeyes on the Zero/Wesker part. youre still both scrubs tho, & FShoryu, i'll annihilate u on PSN, say that crap after u beat me! xD
People are going to cheer for buffs to characters they play or like and nerfs to characters that give them trouble or they dislike, and vice versa. No point in getting out of shape for people wanting their favorite characters to be better and the one's they don't like to be worse.
I'm picking up Zero solely because of his MegaMan X alt. Dante is the reason I bought vanilla, and I've mained him since day one. Been using Doom since week two. That's the team I'm playing, and I could care less whether people think I'm "tier whoring" or not.
Play the characters you want, for whatever reason you want. You shouldn't care what people think about the characters you play, and quite frankly, they shouldn't care about the characters you play or why you play them. It's a waste of time.
One thing I am having trouble with are the wesker buffs... If they left him the same that'd be one thing. But I remember S Kill saying that as his glasses are destroyed he would get a speed and power boost thatd allow him to do new combos he otherwise couldn't do. That is bs especially after the nerd nuke they hit characters like she-hulk with. It's just bull that you'd nerd most of the top tier characters like Phoenix and wolverine, but you'd give another who can do massive amounts of damage using little or no meter crazy buffs.
@Wolfeyes187 good 4 u, cus i dnt use top tiers, oh wait, you all consider Zero & Wesker top tiers, huh? lmao. those are the only two i use. i dnt tier whore, i just choose my favs. im not even past 4th lord yet(dnt play rank much) & I STILL eat Master Lords 4 breakfast. come @ me, Wolf >:D
@kdavis851 totally serious right now. You deserve a medal sir! Well said BD
@149 dude you still suck. Phoenix and Wolverine couldn't even help you. You don't think they are top tier because when you use them you get trashed. You make everyone you choose bottom tier.
Jill nerfed, kinda bad marketing strategy lol, I'm gonna be the only Jill player now... and Trish got severaly punished like Phoenix, I mean, her air game was awesome, now I have to find another options for her.
@Wolfeyes187 do u have a ps3? no? stfu then. i'd murder u. end of story
What some people said, the game will boil down to a couple of characters being top tier. I especially think Phoenix Wright was set for that. It happens all the time, and its going to happen now. however them being top wont make the game not fun. Playing the characters you like will still be great, however be prepared a couple months after release seeing a maximum of 8 people very often. Anyway, the only things i don't agree with on here are Akuma and Wesker. I don't play neither, but they shouldn't nerf Akuma to unplayability, and they shouldn't use facade nerfs and buff him to make people happy because so many people use him. And people using that stupid logic, "well Wesker is supposed to have that much health and be that strong because he is on that game!". If we went by that logic then Dormammu, Hulk, Shuma Goroth, Ammy, Phoenix, and a couple other people should be super God tier. So just hush about that.The only thing im hoping for is that zone characters will be more reliable and efficient at what they do, the top tiers wont completely destroy the games competitive scene like it did in vanilla, and the game will still be fun. Here's hoping!
@153 I have both, but if you don't have at least 5,000 win your not worth my time.
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When it says "Reduced total Frames"of a certain move,what does that mean???
@161 not really he didnt even get a slight health boost or a lvl 3,hes just kinda the same.He was low tier in vanilla and hes gona be low tier in Ultimate,doesnt matter to me though im still gona use him as my main.
@#152
yea dude I main Jill too and I dont plan on dropping her anytime soon...
@156 agreed
@Wolfeyes youre definetly a noob. every1 knows your online record doesnt mean sh't. ive played alot of matches and my ratios are 86%(player) and 92%(ranked), so i win the majority of times i play, scrub. now give me your psn name,coward
Why you got to call me so many names? Scrub, Coward, Fagg0t, Bitch, ect. Wtf? If I ever seen you in real life. I would run your teeth into cement.
Post your stats. If you have 90% with 200 %ranked matches and 80% with 4000 player matches I'll play you. If not then you wont have enough experience. It won't be fun and I don't feel like receiving your hate mail.
*looks at changelog and frowns*
yea they couldnt nerf wesker but they could akuma....
V.joe buffs are minor and the same time wrong I mean OTG desperado is okay but come on now OTG M.Rhk would be beast.
#165 A True Player will accept the challenge and comeout with a win stop spreading that BS of "your not worth my time" sounds like a coward just trying to hold on to his precious record.
@155Wolfeyes187 doubt it. HIGHLY. doubt it. now stfu, boy. u didnt give me your psn name, all youre doin is making excuses not to play like a spineless fag. not returning to this page anymore. youre obviously not worth it
PSN is lag central,and playing online in this game is extremely pointless.
The game overall is sorta meh because it's dummy friendly, especially certain characters that got buffed questionably.
Then we have geniuses talking about trish spamming roundtrip,which is like a 30 frame startup attack so you know that they are bad.
FC jago loses alot of matches that trish actually plays in..somehow she needs a phoenix nerf and zero needs a buff so he's more brainless
wesker with broken glasses and xfactor 3? wut have they done...
The capcom characters kinda suck. . . lol