What do you think of Daigo's Akuma play? Leave a comment below with your thoughts.
I remember Daigo said that he wanted to see Tokido (Akuma) vs Fuudo (Fei Long). So obviously he decided to use Akuma because Akuma is a good enough tool for tournaments or something else. =p
If it was PR Rog that was up against Daigo, Akuma would've have got hit by a reversed (auto corrected) Ultra every time he teleport away from Balrog...
Now that I've watched the video...........
His AK needs some work, missed demon opportunities etc. Looking forward to seeing what he does w/ AK after some time has passed.
It's really funny to me how concerned so many people generally are as to which character daigo is trying out; anyone else see the humor in it all
@ #7
Actually it's Rog's fault. Akuma's cr.MK generates only 13 frames of blockstun, and Hadoken starts in 14 frames.
It's never a true blockstring, Rog can easily EX, FA or Ultra every time Akuma cancels his blocked crouching forward into fireball.
Daigo's Demon needs some serious work, hopefully he'll stick with Ryu. PR Rog would've annihilated him.
Hardly call that "bodied" he barely squeeked by that win one more hit from Daigo and he would have lost. Wouldn't even need to be a combo, just a single normal HK or HP.
Daigo def needs to practice his Akuma if he plans on switching, I do love that Daigo is considering switching to Akuma for 2012, Tokido and Mago both said Akuma/Gouki as the top tier character for 2012. And yet Akuma mains all over and QQing that he will be mid tier at best.
Who cares everybody loses, why do so many people care ?
Personally Daigo bores me, he only picks top tier characters
because he needs to win as he's sponsored, lesser picked characters being played by godlike players is more entertaining eg Momochi's Cody.
DarkSamus obviously doesn't understand what "bodied" means.
You know, I love Daigo, but his Akuma just doesn't seem evil enough.
Daigo as usual takes a lot of risks. With a low life Akuma i'm not so sure thats smart play. But I ain't Daigo. *shrugs*
I'll say it again. The competitive circuit has no character loyalty.
Turtling a lot, but I'm sure he was prepaid and this exhibition is just for $hit & giggles =]
For parts of that match, he looked like he wanted to play Akuma a little bit like Ryu. *cough*
He's actually pretty good considering the time, he's obviously no Tokido (But thats also Obvious, he just started the character and Tokido has been playing him since Vanilla)
And @24: Of course, if I was playing fighting games as a job I'd rather wanna win too then try 20x as hard with a mid tier. That said, character loyalty + if the character itself is decent can make you go far (Seth..Sakura..Cody../momochi,/Uryo/Poongko)
@ #16
Same Daigo and Mago who said Seth was the 2nd worst character in the game? Good call.
Akuma mainers never claimed he was gonna be midtier (crybabies and scrubs aside), they complained those nerf were uncalled for.
@ #28
Momochi played Akuma, Ken, Makoto, Yun, Cody, so much for character loyalty.
He's using Cody now that he's gonna get even better, with v2012 almost out there there's no point in playing Yun if you know you're gonna drop him.
Daigo was definetly free that first Round. Maybe it was download, were have too wait & see. Either way he should be playing Evil Roo. My only conclusion he wants too Demon someone or flip kick.
@29: Oh yea I do know that he plays like everyone, what I guess I meant more so was that if you really like a character that isn't too bad that that makes up for you having to try so much harder (Even though he switches a lot, he looks like he does really like Cody, he was never really good before & he could have easily switched to Yun at least in this tournament just to take home the money)
But no true about momo, I remember rooting for him when he was Ken and then he switched t-t
^ ''he was never really good before'' meaning Cody as a character, theres really little reason to have picked him at any time over some of the other chars Momochi played.
AND LOVE FOR YOUR CHARACTER MEANS YOU HAVE LOVE FOR YOURSELF(??)ANDYOULLINTHEENDWIN!!
@the_truth #18
True Daigo does go top tier as he is sponsored etc etc BUT remember he did use Ryu as his main for SFIV and SSFIV (only dropped him when SSFIV: AE came out) and Ryu is and has always been solid Mid-Tier. And didn't he also use Guy in one of the other SF games who I am sure is not Top-Tier?
@#34 Err Ryu was high tier in Vanilla SF4 behind Sagat and Akuma. In Super he was upper mid.
About this match, I don't think you can judge his Akuma on just 1 match. But it looks like he plays similar to how he plays Ryu, which makes you wonder why he doesn't just go Ryu(or Ken or E.Ryu).
Here is a link showing multiple games with Akuma. http://www.mmcafe.com/nico.html#http:... You guys are so EXPERT to judge a player based on one match. Nothing is a done deal. He may still use another charachter for all I know. His style is different than Tokido's though. More about zoning and DPs. Tokido is more about knockdown and vortex. At least, Daigo is not copying anyone style; he's making his own. Don't forget that Nemo won against Tokido 8-1/2 and 15-12 against Daigo's Akuma in the very first week o fDaigo's using Akuma in the arcades.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P34XUK... - this is also a better match to see Daigo's Akuma.
Also FADC'ing the Tatsumaki, I've never seen it done in an actual match and in a combo in a match. Only time I've ever seen anyone do that is LordOfUltima in his Akuma tutorials and combo videos.
I dont think he wastes time, I see his using Akuma OR E-Ryu in 2012.
@ #37
There's a reason no one uses that, Hurricane FADC standing Strong does less damage/stun than Fireball fadc into standing Fierce: he was either showing off or simply ignoring this.
And that Cammy was atrocius, did you actually watch the match buddy?
Daigo's trying to play Akuma like it's Ryu. I don't think it's a good fit for him. I honestly think he should go back to Ryu, it was a natural fit for him.
Akuma isn't new to Daigo. He used him in Alpha. Don't judge so harshly on one match.
As mentioned above, Daigo's Akuma did WAY better against Nemo than Tokido's Akuma.
Btw, that Balrog wasn't bad. No PR Rog or anything, but he wasn't bad. People think they're so slick talking from Mom's basement lol. You go to Kuwait and beat that kids Rog.
And ignore the win streak Daigo had going too. Just down him any chance you get. Jealously is so ugly.
Daigo plays Akuma like I play Akuma... like a spazzy idiot with poor execution who thinks it's still 3rd Strike.
You guys ars such fools! You really wanna lecture Daigo on how he should play Akuma?
You know he started playing Akuma not so long ago, right?
When Daigo devotes himself to a character...you better watch out!
And don't forget: Nemo vs Daigo (using Akuma) was 15-12. Nemo vs Tokido (8-1).
That's quite impressive for a "*insert random slur*" Akuma!
It's funny how yall tell daigo how to use akuma and he aint that good with him, when he would body any1 of you? Just because you hide behind a screen and act like you could do better get a grip man hes always used multi chars in the past if you know the scene well enuff you would respect the guy instead of acting like a freak and always hating on the top players not just daigo, no one on here would get near any of the usa or asian top 30 players, Even with them using chars they hardly use in tourneys but i guess haters can only hate i guess !!! geeezzz this is so much of the same sh*t all time!! coz u have no real life freinds to argue with u start dissin folk on here , lol yeah so gangsta
Daigo wanted to play akuma like ryu haha c.forward into fireball, who does that with akuma? like someone said before, it's not a true block string. And that balrog player is a dumass, how did he not realize that daigo was stretching the screen? he could have easily walked daigo into the corner every time daigo attempted to zone him out.
people still complain about character loyalty? the game has more than one character.
@49 Damn straight. I'm not a Daigo fanboy but fools gotta be told that he's still the best in the world. Nobody comes close to his major tournament record. Nobody. End of...
@54 yeah im not a fanboy either im mostly a valle/hart/watson fan as they where the players i mostly got inspired by as they all have great character awareness over the early days of sf, but most folk on here that say stupid things are the same ppl that call u a scrub after you whoop them online they think they know there stuff but never put it into practice, shame really if the put as much effort into there game as they do complaining eventhubs would be troll and scrub free lol
I think he plays Akuma better than Ryu, he just doesn't have the crutch of Ryu's Ultra supporting him (most matches he'll Shoryuken into an Ultra, giving him a significant lead).
I like that he is using Akuma, most of these comments are just idiot kids with big mouths. I use my psn tag here unlike most people so I can prove I'm a serious player not just another "eventscrub" playing with their phone.
@gtfopanda totally agree with you, most people use Akuma and think only about dokens, rog vs Akuma is a pretty tricky matchup imo, it comes down to 2 characters with a lot of great movement options it could be all pressure or all footsies. I've argued with people about that same blockstring and its effectiveness vs the other 2 shotos, just not the same.
@joppula yeah I wouldn't take what these kids say as anything more than my girlfriend commenting on players. Daigo is without question the best, period. None of these flamers would give up gamertags and show their skill/knowledge of the game or its intricacies.
His Akuma is more grounded with high focus on spacing and fireball game which makes it unique. I don't even think he even practice much if at all by the look of how he play which relies pretty much on fundamentals. I'm sure things will be different if he were to take Akuma seriously..
People should just enjoy the vid for what it is, so refreshing to see him try out another character.
I wonder why he wants to use Akuma, given the somewhat heavy nerfs he got (when people said it would shut down some of his offensive pressure).
He's always got a solid zoning/footsies game, that's what he excels at. So he can do well with Akuma. But with Ryu and Guile getting buffed, he may go back to them.
Ken is gonna be strong though, so maybe him as well.
''As mentioned above, Daigo's Akuma did WAY better against Nemo than Tokido's Akuma.''
Yea I forgot about that, that's crazy. Daigos fundamentals are so good that I can see that happening though, especially with a char like Akuma who got solid DMG and normals. If he learns the match specific stuff + Vortex, he has the potential to outdemon Tokido.
From my observation Daigo seems to enjoy non-sponsored matches that's why you find his play style different picks other characters and goes for some risky 1 frames combos just to show his execution skills. When sponsored he's forced to play more seriously.
ROFL.
99% of the people posting here think Daigo's akuma "needs work", "not good", etc...
When he wins with Yun, you lose all respect for him because Yun is overpowered - but you forget Daigo made him overpowered.
Go back to EVO 2010 and read all the posts from another batch (or maybe the same) of scrubs. CRYING about how Ryu is overpowered and needs nerfs. The only reason Daigo won that EVO, according to the enormous scrub scene, was because he was "spamming fireballs".
Even the old podcasts have the commentators talking about how it's unfair that he "spams plasma".
Here is the thing that all of you are missing. Daigo will have a 80-90% win rate with whoever he chooses. He only cares about winning against top japanese players. If any of you have a money match from EVO or any other tournament where you "bodied" him so easily. POST IT already. Otherwise STFU.
His Akuma isn't that great. He's playing him like he's playing Ryu. cr mk into fireball a lot. He has no vortex game. No demon flip into grab or crossover tatsu.
Daigo is gdkl but he's not the best at SF4. I don't hate on him or love the guy but to show one match of someone loosing and it being front page says more than what happened in the match. I actually find it petty. It wasn't even a good match and it didn't showcase his Akuma much, so that pretext is weak. "oh look someone beat him 2 rounds" ?
Trust me if I ever beat Daigo I'll tell ALL my friends.
People put too much thought into "character loyalty." You have to understand that serious players will play these games for years and years. People are not necessarily just maining people because they are "top tier"...good players aren't anyway. The tourney players themselves are who make a character top tier. True tiers are established from the results of hundreds, and later thousands, of tournament results. SF4 in itself has only been around for like 3 years or so, and each year, they keep having a revision. So every character's potential keeps shifting around. A year is not long enough to establish anything except strong speculation at best.
Tokido was saying he thinks Cody will be one of the higher tiers in 2012, yet Cody isn't really even getting alot of meaningful buffs aside from walk speed, and many of the other characters that were already supposedly better than him on tier lists are getting larger buffs. The fact is that not enough people were playing Cody for people to really place him on a list. Finally, Momochi and Sasaki (sp?) are showing his potential, and now people are noticing. Cody has always been great.
Daigo made ryu look top tier, then in AE before it even came out, Daigo said he wanted to try Yun. He ended up sticking with him, and most of why people cry about yun is from stuff we see Daigo do. He is one of the only people on our side of the world that has done well with him in tourneys. Yang is quite possibly even stronger than Yun, but fewer people play him, and only Floe plays him much in the states, and Floe doesn't even know how to use Yang's powerful super lol.
Character loyalty is a silly notion. Even the pros are still playing to enjoy themselves. They should be allowed to pick whoever they wish without question. With people switching around, it's also more entertaining because you see different people with different playstyles showing new potential in characters you wouldn't have seen previously. Even these pros that some of you seem to think only pick top tiers, like Daigo... ultimately they are still going to pick people that fit with their playstyle. Gief is an upper tier guy too, but I doubt i'll see Daigo jump to him anytime soon.
Good Akuma to say the least... but I personally think if he wants to reach Tokido or Infiltration's level he may still need some practice. Can't wait to see where Daigo's gonna go with his new Akuma though.
@keebler
Tournament results have absolutely nothing to do with tiers, tiers are based on how characters stack up against other characters. Honda was top tier in super same with Cammy how many tournaments were they winning ? If a character beats 34 characters easily but loses to the other 5 who are top tier & will be heavily represented you're not winning tournaments but you'll still be classed as top tier. Cody isn't "GREAT" he's high mid in AE & will remain around that spot in 2012 anyone thinking of switching to Cody for tournaments will be sorely dissapointed. There are only a handful of players capable of achieving Momochi's feat at seasons beatings with a character like Cody & none of them are American. Daigo didn't make Ryu or Yun "LOOK" top tier they were top tier, pro's play to win & generally pick top tier.
Daigo might be the worst Akuma player I've ever seen.
I'm pretty sure Daigo's akuma can take out alot of US players. You guys don't see the 15 games win streak. I can find videos that Daigo lost more badly with Ryu and Yun
Obviously was Daigos friends brother, playing on his account.