Seth Killian just made a post on his Twitter account saying that Chun-Li has an off the ground move in Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 that nobody has found yet.
Yes, Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 Chun has an off the ground that nobody has found, and EX Spinning Bird Kick is pretty good. She's tough to play but gets a bunch of solid buffs.
Do you guys think this is enough of a change to Chun-Li that we'll see more players using her?
Let us know your thoughts by leaving a comment.
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i'm gonna laugh if its the head stomps. being done really close to the ground or something =P
I wonder if the ex sbk has invincibility at least in the start up frames
Finally! I was personally shocked that hazanshu wasn't in her move in vanilla mvc3. I hope thats her otg.
Her having a legit otg opens up alot of doors for her game. not having to rely on wesker/viper type assist to extend combos. And if its super cancel-able then she'll be even more of a threat.
Chun Li is a retarded character in MvC3. Just a mashable boring noobish character that most girls flock to. And they make her kicks have too much range and and no hit box on her legs. She's just more annoying than scary. And she's not fun at all. She's awesome on Street fighter games, but on mvc3 she's just annoying.
@9, Chillin' with Doom. ;D
I was sure someone asked about this already but it was all hush hush? Anywho, good for Chun; maybe this really great/underused character will be more viable now.
Well, an OTG will HELP, but it'd be nice if she could do damage for once.
And if she had something in the air, like a throw, to help open her opponents up.
And if her fireball wasn't completely worthless.
And if her regular SBK had anything worthwhile about it.
And if Kikosho was all around her body like previous games instead of just in front of her.
I really was hoping someone would figure out what Capcom gave her, but one OTG and a Hornet Kick (seriously, naming guys?) won't make up for her other major downsides.
I guess it's good that she has an otg now, but what is with capcom doing this "find it out yourself" nonsense, just tell us what e changes are
@21 yeah seriously Captain America's OTG in MVC3 was godlike
@22 I think telling us everything will take the fun out of it. It's great to just grind it out in the lab and find some crazy technology that you can debut at a tourney or youtube or against that one friend who keeps kicking your ass with top tiers.
DAT AZZ: anyway thought i was the only one who use's her now that they give her ex from ssf4 am glad but i agreed with coastalmixX i find anything new with chun i find it out myself
seth was responding to a troll tweeter anyway, so i hope seth's OTG move for chun is a counter-troll of "wesker assist button"
OTG for Chun li is what she needs. I'm glad S-Kill came clean and just told us she had one. Now I can have Team Street Fighter, Team Resident Evil and of course my main team ^_^
I'm not about to say Chun was a top character, but she was bad? really guys? She had a great assist, invicible startup lvl one super, tri jump, fast air dash, is one of the fastest lvl 3 x factor characters, has very safe moves, a crumple that is easy to combo into, jump cancelable sweep, and has not one but two of the very rare non x factor infinites. She isn't as good as Viper in my opinion, but would probably fall into a similar category of extremely underused, yet very strong if you are willing to take some time. Sounds like she will have a lower entry barrier now, so have fun dudes.
#30: Mobility, one good assist, and one good Super don't make for good characters, especially if you can't do any damage with her!
(Also, she has three infinites IIRC, and STILL no one bothers with her. That should tell you a lot about how limited she is.)
an OTG is the BEST tool they can give a char. we will definitely see more of her now
Nvm unless Vjoes bomb OTG's, never seen anyone use it though for that purpose. Must be some more I forgot, but pretty much it comes down too now;
Whether some still don't have OTGs or not, everyone I think will at least be able to do some decent DMG of combos. Like with Joe, you can do a tonnn of airstuff into super for still DMG, captain america too with his shield juggles. Chun I felt couldnt do anything lol.
So good stuff!
You guys need to stop being lazy and tell her damage output is bad. Her damage output is just fine, but it wont be as long as you start all your combos mashing legs or doing the magic ABCS - ABCS combo.
Chun Li is one of the worts characters in the game, Im pretty sure of that. A Rushdown character with barely no mixups options, her Cr.L hits MID, combo enders are awful, cant combo after a throw, and her best move to keep the pressure has a freaking charge command!
Not to mention that Tenshou Kyaku's stun is awful and it's airborne version gets her opened to be totally punished. Kikouken has a very big startup, Kikouaken is useless (in my combos they are), her Lv3 whiffs ON HIT and she doesnt have her classic Lv.3 "Shichisei Senkukyaku".
Yes, the bomb OTGs. I googled to find out if he had an OTG, and found a combo where he used the bomb for it. Taskmaster can OTG with his normal down arrows as well as his hyper. Though I think there's quite a few characters that can only OTG with hypers, Hsien-Ko, Magneto and Morrigan comes to mind (I think).
#39 yea you are correct, I forgot about his regular arrows lol (I use him too)
Ive looked through the whole cast:
In MVC3 - NO OTG Chars are: Trish, Chun li, Cap, Spiderman (?)(Including super OTG's) I think, im going by my own knowledge here.
People that only had OTG supers: Ryu, Morrigan, Magneto, Storm.
So..Spiderman? Only char without an OTG Super nor regular move in umvc3? I could be wrong, one of the only chars I rarely play.
@41
You're correct, Spiderman has no OTGs at all in MvC3. However in UMvC3 his web-zip can now OTG so he can use that to end his combos with OTG into Maximum Spider.
I forgot if you have enough tools to be mid/a little better if you have talent tier you are a bad character by event hubs logic. You two won't be happy until I commend you for your bravery for using Chun or just flat out say she is terrible.
She is decent and got better. No medal of honor for anybody just a game for us to play.
Also having one good assist does make a good character how many Haggars/Trons(certainly better than Haggar despite having awful options in many cases)/Hsien Kos (ok not too many, but most people use her for the insane assist) have we seen as of late. Haggar is borderline useless against any character with zoning and the other two suffer against a lot of common options. Granted their assists are much better than Chun's (or basically anybody's) but Chun feels much more rounded so you have to give and take here and there. Anyway Haggar and Tron assists got hit pretty hard in UMvC3 so we can forget about all that soon enough anyway.
well good that they buff someone but where are the Thor and V.joe stuff at, I wanna see Joes new Wallbounce :P.
(guys, guys - it's not that Chun sucks - it's just that Wolverine/Phoenix are wayyyyy easier with better results, which can be said for lots of underplayed members of the cast.
That being said - the Wolverine/Phoenix nerfs + refocus on zoning gives everyone a new chance at climbing the tier lists.)
@43
She has enough tools to be good, yes, but her damage output is terrible outside of long, unwieldly combos that require surprising precision given how easy it is to accidentally trigger lightning legs (supposedly it's three rapid button presses, but I've had it happen on two subsequent presses). This paired with her low health (850K) makes her, not bad, but outclassed in many cases (characters such as Akuma and Wolverine when it comes to damage output and Zero when it comes to drawn out combos).
Haggar may have trouble against zoners, but when he hits he hits hard (600K damage with no hyper meter usage hard) and has access to some crazy resets. Tron has some issues, yes, but if a player can apply pressure with Air Dash and Air H properly she can be pretty difficult to deal with (obviously) and she can also do some pretty big damage. Above all else Haggar and Tron have 1.2 Million health, so they at least have some health to work with when getting in close. They're (especially Haggar), of course, generally outclassed by characters with good zoning tools and teleports.
Hsien-Ko suffers from similar problems to Chun (terribly low damage output and poor health) along with horrible movement speed and options. Her Senpu-Bu with hyper armor mode is great...but thanks to her low health throwing it out randomly (akin to Haggar or Tron) can be a gift as well as a curse. These are the reasons she considered by many to be one of the worst characters in the game.
So Chun isn't a bad character by any means (probably low-mid or mid tier depending on how you want to look at things) just an outclassed one.
@46
Well said, that's exactly what I'm getting at with my (probably overly) long-winded post.
Seth Killian is trying to make a botton tier character not look that bad cause in marvel, there is no useless character for real.... but Chun-li just look for me more and more like a Botton tier again...
OTG ability will only be godlike if she can continue a combo after a throw, if not, it will suck cause Damage she can do, u guyes seem to have trouble to deal damage with her, but belve me, she can do ok damage, build hell bars and all... here main problem is gettin in, since she is a character for that means and cant even do that properly...
advanced guard kills her badly, her projectile sucks and her Spinning bird kick is godlike, but the introdution ov EX spinning bird kick using THE SAME HELL COMMAND TO EXECUTE will nerf her even more. Congrats capcom.....
so now.... damage she could do, her problem for getting in got worse, x-factor lvl 3 speed nerfed..... so.... how she will be good again please?
#11 - You make no sense.
#12 - Players just mashing buttons, true. Everything else you said, false.
A lot of you are basing a lot of the stuff you're saying on tier lists saying she sucks because she's low tier. The reason she's a low tier character and not top like Wesker or Wolverine is because all of her advanced combos are really high in execution. In other words, she's low tier because she's difficult to play effectively. There is no such thing as a useless character in this game. Any character can be amazing in the right hands.
Game hasn't even came out yet... the tier list is going to be shaken up a lot.
Whenever you nerf characters and buff characters at the sametime It dramatically changes the game. New moves also changes things up a lot as-well.
In mvc3 you can use any character if you build a proper team around them or have them in the right position. But it may take more time with certain characters and synergy than others. I've dominated with the so called bottom tier, but I also built around their weakness and fight each opponent differently.
Chun has an OTG? ...I am so happy right now... :3
Yes! just what I needed Chun-li is a great assist character
Haha, this is why I like being like the only good Chun Li player. They go up against me expecting Lightning Kick spam, and end up with 40+ hit combos to the face. People sleep on Chun Li hardcore. Being on a mission to make a name for her as a viable char, this new turnout will only assist me on my quest. I'm already a beast wit her, but this will make me godlike. All I ever wanted was for her to have an OTG, and now that she's getting one, on top of a damage buff, I'm about to be destroying teams left and right with her.
PS: You should check out my youtube page for some REAL Chun Li action: Baikou
@55
I am with you 100%. I have been maining Chun-li since Street Fighter 2 and I don't plan to stop using her any time soon. I think he has a lot of potential, and maybe if people stop being all over Wolverine and Phoenix, they'd see that for themselves.
P.S.: Saw your videos, and I'd like to play against you in Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 whenever you might be up for it. Your Chun is on par with my own. :3
@56
Is that so? Well keep in touch with me over youtube then. Next week, I'll be away for the military for about 4 months(kinda bad timing with Ultimate comin out >.<), but when I get back, I'm goin full force into Ultimate. Chun on Chun action is always fun, and I would like to fight other Chun players so I can learn more than what I already know.
I don't see why Chun-Li is underrated in vanilla MVC3. She's quick, has good mix-ups, a relatively durable (and annoying) fireball, and a high priority Spinning Bird Kick (which most players seem to undermine).
She'd be awesomer with OTG and Spinning Hornet Kick!
I do believe so. In fact I was messing with her yesterday, she was balanced enough; as she can get 700,000+ with one hyper + OTG assist, with the OTG she'll defiantly be better than most of the cast.
@61 & 62
She's quick, but her mixups actually aren't all that fast. She has the slowest standing overhead in the game, and I think if her fireball is gonna go full screen, it should have more durability. And considering it's a charge move, Spinning Bird Kick is pretty useless outside of a combo. It's too much of a risk trying to charge it for any other means. You can easily be caught by an overhead.
And the fact that she's actually balanced is what makes her bad lol. She NEEDS an assist for OTGs, and she NEEDS an assist to do that much damage. She can't do what most of the cast can do on their own. And on top of that, she's high execution. People don't want to press all those buttons to do a 40+ hit combo and still not kill a char lol.
I love Chun and I've been playing her for a while, I'm glad she got an org because she can't end combos with hyper and hitstun deter. On her hoyokusen. I wish i played her better though cuz kikoanken is just so hard for me to do on xbox controller ESpecially when doing it while crouching and when I try to jump cancel it does sbk
I use Chun-li a lot. Everyone knows she's mid tier at best but the lightning legs are extremely good at stopping people who spam attacks all day. Of course you'll be spamming the legs too but they can say too much can they? On top of that she's a great meter builder too, I don't know if anyone touched on that yet.
its fair to giv ever1 an otg its not fair just to give certain characters otg making the game unbalance n yes im a chun player im very estatic mo people will pick her up
might be her little flippy overhead command normal kicky move