More characters will be revealed for Street Fighter X Tekken near the end of December at the Asia Game Show in Hong Kong, and there will be another updated list of changes made to the fighters in Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition from the developers, according to Capcom's Yoshinori Ono.When will you announce new characters for Street Fighter X Tekken? — DkTemplar84
Ono: It will be at the end of December (23 - 26) at Asia Game Show in Hong Kong. ;D
When are you guys going to release the full AE 2012 Changelist? — TheFlanster
Ono: Please wait it change list about AE2012...
Why are you taunting us by including Mega Man's image in UMvC3? He's in endings, the background, etc. This is terrible.
Svensson: So to understand you correctly, we can't use Mega Man in any form or make any references (other than as a playable character) without pissing some folks off?
I think you need thicker skin. I'd also think as a fan, you should like to see any/all exposure for Mega Man to raise awareness for the brand in any form, even if you personally aren't satisfied by the execution.
When will AE 2012 be available for the PC? :D — Vikacharya
Ono: We're developing it just now, please wait...
Seth Killian: Heroes & Heralds DLC mode release date isn't fixed yet, but it's insane-o levels of fun (and free). There's a loadout that, in my opinion, makes Nemesis #1 :)
Will alternate costumes from SF4 carry over in SFxT to the SF4 characters? — RoGE
Svensson: No, they are entirely different games.
Who is music composer for Street Fighter X Tekken? — Patrick12871
Ono: Same composer [as the] Street Fighter 4 series. Mr. Fukasawa!! He is so awesome!! ;D
They don't get it. A couple of jabs at Megaman here and there, whatever. Har har. But to constantly just throw it in our face over and over again that he's not in the game is just a slap to the face of Megaman fans. We get it, he's not in the game and probably never will. No need to keep reminding us, just him not being in the roster is enough.
Damn, Svensson ain't taking no crap from angry Megaman fans.
I'm not going to whine or moan about how Megaman or X wasn't in UMVC3 or anything like that b/c I don't really care BUT Capcom are some douches. Talking about raise awareness. If they wanted to raise awareness they wouldn't have cancelled Megaman Universe or Megaman Legends 3 and make bullcrap excuses like "The games weren't getting enough fan support" when it was one of the most fan supported games they were making. It was getting way more support than DmC and that crappy game is still getting made. Regardless, they know people are going to still buy their stuff and DLC anyway so I guess they can do w/e they please.
The response of Sven to the Mega Man question was a REAL bad answer. He acts like that guy who asked is the only one who's been wondering that. Way to totally disrespect your fanbase.
wow svenson keep it professional jeez
I think you need thicker skin. I'd also think as a fan, you should like to see any/all exposure for Mega Man to raise awareness for the brand in any form, even if you personally aren't satisfied by the execution.
wow is this how capcom treats there fans? just wow
Dont buy any more crapcom games get a jtaged xbox360 and burn your games. free games are the best.
Svensson you are a fag, die.
well said TwilightPhoenix0402 and Von_Kunlun_BOOF
f this game anyway, i didn't buy 3 and I'm not buying ultimate I'm one of the few fans that refuses to get screwed over by this fading company.
ultimate marvel vs capcom 3 arcade edition (tentatively titled) will be here soon for all you fan-boys. 15 dollars or ya know 40 if you want the box-art and manual haha.
and heroes and heralds mode still no planed release date, that's ok it's probably just on the disk already you just can't access it! at least it will be FREE! free and capcom in the same sentence? unheard of.
how bout those GREAAAAT alternate's for sf x tekken which will undoubtedly be dlc...the game's not even out yet, and they still don't know what they're doing with the core game play mechanics (Pandora might still be scrapped, oh yeah good one Seth Killian like you make any of the decisions to do that kind of stuff)...but there's gonna be dlc... rip off.
this company sucks.
@5 Don't talk about DMC(which is't bad GOD)Again please you have been warn We don't need random hate on a site that ONLY FOR CAPCOM FIGHTING GAMES OK?
#2, #5, #10 missed the point.
Sven is absolutely right, and it's about time someone from Capcom addressed it. Just because a Mega Man isn't in the game does not mean that all references to him are somehow a jab at fans. It's a stupid logic that no one has actually sat down and thought about. I for one am HAPPY that Zero has an X alt, because it's better than nothing at all. All the crying about trolling (which actually isn't trolling AT ALL) is pathetic. So do yourselves a favor and listen to Sven; quit taking every Mega Man reference as some sort of personal attack.
Also...
@5
Where is your proof that MML3 was somehow the most fan supported game they were making? Because it wasn't. I'm a fan of MegaMan Legends, but I'm not going to sit here and make whiny ass lies about its popularity. There's a reason there's only been 2 MML games and one spinoff; it's just not that popular in comparison to pretty much any other Mega Man series.
At the end of the day, Capcom is a business and they have to make business decisions; they're not going to throw money away on a sequel that isn't going to sell well. Any company would do the same.
@1
cause it shouldnt. Dlc is an add on to the game, something that comes post release, not something that is planed during development, on the disc at launch and that requires an additional charge to gain excess to. Thats why i have never bought any capcom dlc, mind u the alts sucks anyway.
#20 is missing my point.
You completely ignored my statement that said a couple of jabs here and there, which already addressed your entire post. We're not taking every Megaman reference as a personal attack, but you're oblivious if you don't see that they're beating down a dead horse with the constant Megaman references. A couple here and there are fine, but when you have Seth say that the poster was purposely put in there to piss off Megaman fans, then keep adding more and more fuel to the fire is just a bit much. If you really wanna stop pissing Megaman fans off, let it go and cool off with the Megaman references.
We get it.
He's not in the game.
One or two references is alright, but:
-Days of Future Past
-Thor's Ending
-Nova's Ending
-Zero's Alt
-Frank's Alt
That's 5 references.
Where vanilla had only one, which everyone was okay with.
It's one thing to give fanservice, it's a whole other story to plaster MegaMan's face in more than one place.
Classic and X's faces, the 2 most requested iterations since vanilla. If they wanted to give some cameos in endings, why not EXE/Star Force cameos?
That would've shown some MegaMan love WITHOUT pissing off everyone by waving the 2 *everyone* wants in their faces like "Ooh, ooh, you want him? You want him? Too bad!"
I'm all good with cameos, but with this much "exposure" all concentrated on the most requested character thus far, that's not something to write home about.
"when you have Seth say that the poster was purposely put in there to piss off Megaman fans..."
You have very selective reading dude. Did you read or hear anything he said after the first reply? "Yes." OHMFFFG THAT POSTER IS TROLLIGN!
Dude, seriously.
@17 Trollolololololo good one now get a life :)
Wow thats how Capcom treats/talks to their fans?Im losing alot of patience and respect for Capcom.UMVC3 was theyre chance to get it right,but still no MM and they charge extra for DLC that IS on the disc already!Dam ultimate trolling!
@ChunLi,
You forgot the Zero win quote about MegaMan.
@26 Wtf are you talking about? You obviously don't know what I'm talking about, so I'll show you:
"It's just a poster in the background," Killian said. "On the original comic [cover] there was a character in that position who was also not slain or apprehended. But I guess we didn't have to put Mega Man in there."
With all the flack that Capcom has received about Mega Man's disappearance from gaming you'd think that they'd pick a different character to be in that slot, rather than a guy with such a strong following.
"Yeah, just tweaking the Mega Man fans," Killian joked. "I haven't had my nose broken in, so we need to bring them back... and a rage storm for me."
Sometimes I like to come here and read the replies of people who make inaccurate statements and rage. It makes my work day more enjoyable. You guys are awesome, keep crying about Megaman! :D
@26
Ah, you're talking about the whole thing with the first SFxT trailer with MegaMan and Pac-Man going back and forth?
By that logic, both MegaMan AND Pac-Man are going to be in SFxT. Not exactly sure how I think of that (at the moment) buuuuuut, if implemented well, it should be interesting to say the least.
Especially how off-the-wall characters are being put into SFxT anyway, and many people see MegaMan and Pac-Man to be the "faces" of Capcom and Namco, respectively.
@32 lol I'm not RAGEING Just trying to shut up people but they will keep crying *rolls eyes*
@36
"lupinko Lance Lingos
Everybody will love the yellow dude's style, but blue boy will cause lots of lols or lots of rage, wait and see! Excelsior!
13 hours ago"
Looks like we got icons in SFxT, I'm not even sure how the hell that's supposed to go down.
@39
He didn't shut the crybaby down.
He made it worse.
@28 Svensson is always like that so you have two thing to do
1.Grow up
2.If you keep saying that leave this site NOW
@41 not really he shut them up it's call sucking it up people should learn that.
@45
If he shut them up, then why is this the topic of discussion right now?
@48 Because people think saying f**k you capcom is fun and funny?
@47
If they can get cats to be a part of this game, I'm sure a yellow sphere with line arms can fight...somehow...
I mean, what the in the hell would Pac-Man do? Waka waka waka is enemies?
I'm calling it, he's going to throw small pellets as projectiles and eat a power pellet for his Pandora.
@46 Me calling you out on selective reading means you focused one on thing that supports your argument without looking at the overall article or discussion.
I would like to ask you, how much power does Seth have in actual development? He's always eating his own words good sir. It's almost as "blind" as all these folks blaming Sven's harshness on the entirety of Capcom, rather than the person.
Sven is obviously a worthless dillhole. "grow thicker skin"? hm, thats funny, cus thats the kind of statement u make when you're TRYING TO GET UNDER IT. look, i dont care about MM, i like his games n all, i grew up with them, i dont think there is any real gamer that hasnt played a MM game by now. but i like Zero, so im content with the roster as far as who all I like.but needless to say, im VERY surprised MM isnt in the most anticipated CAPCOM crossover. but i'll skip 2 why im upset. honestly, i dont like sven. idk, hes just a douche. so 4 out of the top 6 in the most relevant fan poll get in, aaaaand, #1 isnt one of them. soooo, do u honestly expect us to believe it to be some sort of coincidence, and that u dont know by now that alot of fans want MM? ever heard of that saying "all or nothing"? you dont reject something, & then not only just reject it, but CONSTANTLY remind them of what they cant have. thats like your child asking 4 candy, & then you tell them no, & make them watch u eat it
Go Svensson. I, myself can't stand these megaman fanboy crybabies. He's not in. Get over it. I'm glad he's on backgrounds and endings, taunting these sissies.
and i hate how sven answers the guy. when i read stuff like that,i think of a f*ggot who throws a paperball @ you while youre not looking,but when u finally see him do it & you tell him to stop, he says "What do you mean? Stop what?".
@22
that guy works for capcom so if he says someting like that the whole company will get a bad rep even though capcom already has a bad rep.
Damn, Svensson makes it sound like he really hates Mega Man.
Then again, he does work for Capcom, so it's par for the course.
'Awareness for the the brand', eh? The same brand you stalwartly refuse to do anything else with?
#54 wow you're cool. stfu. honestly, idk whats worse, the MM fans who cry, or the MM/MM fan haters who gloat.
@57 Trust me that fans got bad rep to be asking dumb ass questions and acting like a kid.
@55
Why do you think of that scenario when reading what Sven said? He just saying that it doesn't make sense for everything short of MM being playable in the game to offend people, and that people shouldn't be offended by the cameos in the game. And I think he's right.
@59
The ones who spite are always worse. Their hate is what powers this machine of neverending trolling and spite to continually beat dead horses and make horrible attempts of trolling in order to put people down when the message is *obviously* clear as it is from Capcom.
@54 dude ALL FANBOY ARE WORSE OF THE WORSE crying,acting like this game is "the s**t" all fanboys can die I don't care DIE.
@65 they to busy masturbation to do that oh and have no life of course. :)
its dumb.Capcom cant tell who will be in a game? ok, cool, that builds hype, got it. but if anything, why cant you tell who ISNT. i wish Capcom would hurry up & just disconfirm Megaman permanently. building hate for company thru massive trolling isnt good for your paycheck, nor your rep. after all that bs Niitsuma spread about X, hes not in. and b4 one of you dillholes reply "DERP YES HE IS, HES A COSTUUME", a costume isnt the same as a character. if that thats the case, then Sparda would be considered in the game
I don't understand how people a saying this isn't trolling. So they deconfirm character that is widely supported by a fan base, make many references of them and it's not trolling?
Talk about about pulling the carpet from under you to wave it blatantly in your face.
@52
Then you obviously don't fully understand the idea of "selective reading." Not only, as I said, are they two different statements made by different people at different times, but the second statement by Sven that you pointed out, I also mentioned didn't even address the fact that Seth said the poster was put in to piss off Megaman fans. In fact, I think it actually contradicts his statement because Sven wants fans to not get pissed off, but to embrace as much of Megaman's exposure as possible, but then you have Seth saying that one of his references was purposely put in to piss fans off. So no, not selective reading because I already addressed Sven's entire statement, including the second part that you had mentioned.
And apparently, quite a bit, because Seth mentions that he saw and tested out characters that never actually made it into the final build of the game such as the clown character in SF4. I'm not even mentioning the harshness of Sven's words. I'm just saying he doesn't get it.
Megaman topics are so tiring now... doomed discussions. Please if you don't like what capcom is doing just don't buy any of his fight games for some time at least. After all there are a lot of great options in the market like tekken, blazblue and kofxiii (all of them are awesome games).
Capcom is not the only company out there so if you don't like the business plan they have then they don't deserve your money or your attention, but don't ruin the fun for the ones that like the game the way it is. Let them alone, you will not change the way they think specially in Internet where they can hide and tell everything they would never say in person lol
@72
Okay? That doesn't contradict anything. The poster was a nod at the comic book, putting Megaman in the poster was to piss fans off. Note how he said that they could've put anyone in there, but just wanted to put Megaman in to bring back the pissed off Megaman fans. Maybe you're the one with selective reading.
so they're revealing characters that have been teased at the end of decemeber ok since xiaoyu is in all i want is sakura but im not sure she'll make it :( but sven thats harsh i know ur tired of people complaining and all but what do expect if ur making reference to a character several times and no gameplay thats what ur gonna get who would be satisfied with just a reference no 1 would thats just stupid and this coming from a person thats not a MM Fan
(All versions of Jill pale in comparison to MVC2 Jill, nice try tho.
BTW: Mega Man dudes, Inafune's game is preorder-able if you'd like something mega man-esque since capcom has blackballed the kid)
@62 you're missing the point of the analogy. you dont take something some1 wants, & RUB it in their face, when theyre told they cant have it. thats a form of TAUNTING. think about it, out of ALL the characters capcom has, they put MEGAMAN in cameos? They are fully knowing that enough of these MM fans whine 4 MM. so if they have the time to draw all these pretty lil pictures of him,design a flawless alternate costume of him, and they have proven they are creative enough to implement a LAWYER into a fighting game.whats stopping them from doing MM? why cant they tell us? why cant they just disconfirm him & call it a day?why not just put him in the game and shut every1 up?
@73 You sir are...GREAT THANK YOU GOD THANK YOU :)
@69 Love it :)
I actually thought the poster was a nice touch. I didn't think it was really anything to get up in arms for. It's funny because no matter what character the put in that slot on the poster (because they had to put someone there), fans of THAT character would've gotten upset. So in order to keep from pissing someone off as it would've done regardless of who was it the spot, they would have had to not include it, which would suck, because that's the most interesting stage in the game.
The only reason why Sven can get away with BLASTING megaman fans, and anybody else who complains, is because he knows and Trollno knows that...
All the complaining, all the griping, all the online flame Capcom gets? Well, it dont matter cause YOU WILL CONTINUE TO BUY AND ACCEPT unfinished, updated, dlc, costumes, gems, no matter how "angry" you get.
We are speaking on messageboards, and they are LAUGHING at our immaturity.
They laugh cause they see us as "pimple-faced-still-living-with-our-parents-whining-little-kids-with-disposable-income-who-complain-online-and-generate-hype-for-our-games"
I DIDNT BUY THE GAME. I dont plan to, I dont even plan on getting TekkenVsSF The Rainbow Coalition. I REALLY see the game they are playing and choose to not feed the troll that has become Capcom.
If you gonna complain here, its a waste of time, Yall see what happens right? How many instances of Megaman are we seeing? Thats a direct kick to the naads. They are laughing. And you better believe that a Megaman dlc is on the horizon.
Speak wit your wallets.
@76 thx but I didnt say it to troll the mm fans or anything like that. I just think that talking about this topic after all this time is a waste of energy for both sides: the mm fans and the mm haters. There are many more thinks in life than asking/demanding to include one character in one game with a lifespan of no more than 5 months.
@82 Yes, that one in particular where he was ask if they were trolling and he said "Yes--just KIDDING." That one. The one where he went on to explain how it was an homage to the classic cover, and how it was purely for "fun."
C'mon now. Taking Seth's comments seriously...is almost like taking Ono's comments seriously.
And I like that poster. I own the original coomic (it's in poor condition) and if I were to put the MVC characters in the slots, I would've put MM there too.
Just because it would be freaking awesome.THough that's my opinion, but I digress...
@81 lol your right it will not stop...I hate this site and shryoken to and siliconera and gematsu and I'm not talking about the people who made the sites it's the views who sign up and comment on it.It's sad but what can I do right? just have to move on...
#62 oh my bad! you meant the second scenario! u know when some1 is wronging you or direspecting you on purpose. but then act as though YOURE the ass & they weren't doing anything wrong whatsoever? yea, thats what i was trying to portray in that comment, Davis
I'm pretty sure with all of these megaman cameos in UMvC, they are trying to tell fans that Megaman has not been forgotten by capcom, even though there has been some bad things happening around the character. But with everybody being so negative,stupid,hateful etc. they see it as "trolling". If you let your anger subside for a bit you guys will be able to see that. Yeah he isn't a playable character in-game. but that doesn't mean they forgot about him. Hence the ALL of the cameos.
@85
So simple but but everyone forgets it. If we dont buy it they dont make money, its just that simple. Angry at capcom? feel cheated out of content? dont be stupid and buy there next game. When those dollars dont come in capcom will have to against what there doin or close some studios.
@80
It doesn't matter what reason Capcom gives MM fans for not putting him in the game, it wont be good enough. It'll be met with skepticism. The fans won't but it. So there's not point in giving an explanation.
I don't think Capcom should add a character just to shut up all the people that whine for said character. I think they've done enough of catering to whiners (AE 2012). They don't want the character in for whatever reason. Ok. I wanted him in to, but I don't think that the game's not worth playing because he isn't in it.
Finally, I DON'T think it's taunting. They're cameos. They're references. The only thing that I feel could be considered trolling is the poster, and I actually like the humor of it. Why are the references considered trolling? Because of the number of them? Then how much is too much? One, two, five? Who decides when it crosses that line from fan service to "trolling?" Is it up to the individual? Then should capcom really be concerned with what some people consider an insult and other people take as what it is, a cameo?
@85 you just waste you time type that to so leave this site now please don't waste your time and everyone else time don't buy capcom's games don't every look at the word capcom and I'm not dumb I think I can out smart capcom some how and I don't argee with them laughing at me but that me so again leave this site bye.
Doing that is also a double edged knife. Capcom is a large game company and just ONE of their IPs failing isn't going to make them go bankrupt. They can either do two things. Change the direction of their game and do different things, or just stop making games for that IP. look at God Hand,Okami, and Viewtiful Joe, and Darkstalkers. Look at megaman for the greatest example. You can even say Street Fighter was a good a example before IV. Things like that all depends on what Capcom decides on their next step dealing with the game.
Oh no how dare they have costumes of their company characters. Damn you for trolling us by giving us very minor references to display megamans legacy in capcoms long history. haha
You dont see fantastic four fans complaining that they are trolling and bullying because god forbid there are a few fantastic four appearances. And no other capcom or marvel franchise or series fan for that matter would feel the need to whinge as much. Why is megaman so special? Why does his fans feel the need to mention him at any chance possible? Why should he get special treatment over the thousands of other characters series?
Just face it, Megaman was great in his games, but he never transferred over into FG. Saying that, his games must not be selling well as everyone loves to call capcom names like cashcom and how they are milking us dry, but if megaman was so major, they'd release a megaman game and then about 3 re-releases, DLC, music too, make up your minds. One minute extorters of their series, next minute they're not listening to their fans.
@92: Except none of the other fan requests have been given even one reference outside of that one stage (and there are still a number of fan favorites missing from that one too). You may say that giving so many mentions is just an indication of how much faith they place in him, but consider that they recently cancelled his only upcoming game and refuse to collaborate with Inafune on an anniversary project at all.
@88
You are over-analyzing what Seth said wayyy too much. That statement could just as easily be read as "yeah, guess we could have put something else in...ended up upsetting the fans." Not saying that they did it on purpose to upset them. You are just reading what you want to read, and you are being presumptuous of a stupid question when seth was put on the spot.
Obviously, Megaman is not in any games right now. Big deal. For the last several years, he was overused anyway, having several subpar games in multiple series. His only great games in the recent times have been just freakin retro-styled 9 and 10. And no, MML3 is not the gift from the Gods like so many claim. Legends fans are just extremely loud, but they are simply a drop in the ocean.
For whatever reason, they didn't put him in Ultimate. End of story. If you really cared about Megaman, you would be happy that they are at least showing fan service by giving him many nods in the game. It keeps him in people's memories and exposes him to new players. He'll most likely return in the future, and hopefully Capcom will do him the justice he deserves after having a lackluster decade's worth of games.
@85
I honestly don't see how Sven's comment "blasted" megaman fans. He addressed the ONE fan's question, and made (what I feel is a valid point). Why is it that anything in the game related to megaman, short of him actually being in the game, considered offensive? That's what he was saying. And that he felt people shouldnt get upset with the references. I really don't see what was so offensive about what he said. I don even think it was harsh, just blunt.
Remember no Mai, no buy? You vote with your dollars people. Don't like Megaman in the Game dont buy it. Want Megaman in the game, but he's not, don't buy it. Lots of other great games and companies that would love your money in this economy. Capcom and any other company with srong IPs looks at revenue above complaints and ideas from fans because money makes the world go round. Personally I could care less if Megaman is in the game or not, but I do not like their management downsizing fans on the spot like that. It's tacky and unprofessional in my opinion...but what ever.
@92
The references are considered trolling because Capcom knows Megaman fans are angry about him not being in the game, and just constantly putting him in is like them dangling him in our faces and going, "Hey, you want him? You want him? Can't have him!" The other references have like, one or two cameos, which is what Megaman had in Vanilla and no one complained, but the more you add, the more it comes off as if they're blatantly taunting Megaman fans.
I like how you say "Megman cry babies" if it wasn't for Megaman, you guys wouldn't have a goddamn fighting game to play. Look how many Megaman games there were, shows, etc, do you honestly believe SF and all the damn Fighting games Crapcom made, made them the majority of their cash? GTFO of here. Point in case, MM made the their money, specifically, Inafune, and them dicking around the fans like this is complete 5#1T.
@96
Obviously, things with Inafune arent too great right now. But really, you should be blaming Inafune. Sure, Inafune was voicing an opinion about the industry that many of us would agree with. But in the workplace with any company, if you start talking negatively about how your peers and superiors are handling something, you can expect to suffer consequences, ESPECIALLY when you make those views public instead of keeping it internal in the company. Call him a martyr for the fight for innovation, or an idiot non-conformist with a lack of business sense, but he caused it himself.
As far as cancelling MML3, it sucks for the fans, but it was a business decision, and probably a smart one since it probably would not have sold well.
@12
I don't care about the fact that Megaman isn't in the game but the rubbing it in and mega trolling is just unnecessary. I mean the fans basically make them who they are today and to treat them like this is just uncalled for. Do they need thicker skin? Yes, but like many people are saying, all these references are just unnecessary considering that they KNOW this is what a lot of people wanted. They have the right to use whatever references they want but I think they could have waited a little longer. I mean you have 2 Megaman DLC coming out, the poster thing, and in some endings. You have to admit that it's pretty messed up.
@20
I don't have any proof and I know you are going to come back with some comment because of that fact but I am pretty sure that Legends 3 had way more supporters than some of their more recent games. Like I said, I have no proof so I could very well be wrong. Like you said, they are a business and they have to cut games that they think aren't going to sell well because of that fact. This could easily be the case.
@99 But they not you don't get it you just read you FANS DEAL WITH MEGAMAN NOT BEING IN THE GAME I agree with what he say what can't capcom put megaman in the game as a cameo and cool to me at least they remember they's a megaman but whatever.
theres no reason why capcom could not have put megaman in this time around. yes mr svensson, when he was playable in marvel 2, it is kinda trolling the fans with the amount of references that he has in the game. dont see any gief , captain commando, jin, or roll references nearly as much in number as megaman. AND Megaman is a franchise, meaning that there are fans out there that played all the games and those that liked using him as a character in the previous marvel. All in all, "get thicker skin" wasnt the best response
@101...Your a dumbass both street fighter AND MEGAMAN MAKE CAPCOM WHAT THEY ARE TODAY not just megaman so grow up.
@101
They are allowed to be called "megaman crybabies" when all they do is piss and moan whenever capcom even references the character just because he was not a freakin main character. So capcom doesnt include him because they wanted to try exposing some of their other IP's characters in the game...people get mad, so Capcom tries to make up for it and make him a DLC costume, fans still cry.
I grew up playing megaman, and I consider him a major part of my gaming childhood, probably second only to Mario. But even I am dumbfounded at how much negative publicity has been created over the blue bomber. I would have to assume most of the people complaining are people my age, as 90% of the megaman games in the 2000 decade have been crappy in comparison to megaman of yesteryear, and most people cried about the two good megaman games 9 and 10 being too hard lol, even though thats how the series always was. With that said, I cant understand people my age getting bent so out of shape out of such an issue.
@100
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, because I don't see the references as them dangling the character in front of me. I see them as references. As cameos. As them recognizing that people like the character, and since they obviously aren't putting him in as playable (at this point anyway) they want to show the character some love.
To each his own. I like the references.
'you people need thicker skin...'
svensson, manning up :D oho ho!~
The MegaMan "Trolling" is NOTHING compared to the 20+ years I've been "Trolled" on have Mike Haggar in a Real Street Fighter game!
He's made sooooo many SF cameos he's practically in EVERY game except SF2! Meanwhile Rolent, Sodom, Poison, Cody, Guy, Hugo all make the cut!
Ooh, Zero and Tron... Big Whoop! Walk a mile in these Haggar boots!
Then he finally reapears... In the WRONG GAME!!!!
Sorry Mega Fans. You've had it easy.
Svensson is a perfect example of the typical corporate jerk. I wish people like him weren't in the gaming industry. Statements like that show he's so detached from games in general that he feels like it's okay to be rude with his answers.
I may not like everything Seth Killian says (his opinions on stuff) but at least he handles fan questions professionally and with courtesty.
Also, yes. People do have a legitimate reason to be angry. People wanted Megaman X in the game. They didn't want alternate colors or costumes for Zero that look just like Megaman X. They didn't ask for Nemesis, they didn't ask for Firebrand, they asked for MEGAMAN X and didn't get him. This is why people are upset. He needs to pull his head out of his butt and at least understand fully why Megaman fans aren't happy with the state of things.
@93
Its comically arrogant of you to tell me to leave. And even funnier that im responding to you! Don't worry, i'll laugh for the both of us! Ha-ha!
Fyi, you do know that you only used 1 period in your entire post right? It was disorienting reading your message.
But leave?
No. Im a fan of fighting games. And old-school arcade rat. Even a Megaman fan, even a Tekken Fan.
You want to buy the game, its fine, It was MY choice not to buy it. Y'know my little way of "fighting the power", Mr. Fight the power.
Svenssonn has been known to be blunt, just because he is blunt with a megaman fan doesn't make him any worse then he is now. Jesus this megaman crap is annoying.
Also at @113
People asked for Phoenix wright, People asked for Strider, People asked for Vergil, and people asked for frank west, and guess what, they are all in the game.
@98
Lemme rephrase/redirect,
I LIKE how Sven talks. I like the dudes candor.
I agree about what he said. Maybe I shoulda used a diff word.
But he aint holding back his concerns!
Can you imagine the amount of folks begging/screaming/flooding them with req's for megaman?
So they added him in several places! I LIKE what they did, cause they are SPEAKING to the fans. But it just sets up the dlc, and thats what zings me.
@113
Svensson is much more blunt, and not very well-suited in the PR bit lol. He doesn't seem to have patience. But I feel like he balances out with Seth a bit. Sometimes you need someone that will be the bad guy and just say it like it is. "Grow a thicker skin" is hardly a big deal though.
And how do you know that EVERYONE wanted megaman, and nobody wanted who made it in? Because of Capcom unity polls or something on a similar gaming site? It's a very small subset of a very large population. I'm sure tons of people appreciate Nemesis. Alot of people dont know Firebrand, but I was ecstatic that he was included. Not only is the Ghouls and Ghosts series a classic, but Firebrand's own series "Gargoyles Quest" is increadibly underrated and underexposed. Demon's Crest in particular is easily one of the best platformers on the Super Nintendo (no small feat) and probably one of the top twenty or so games on the system.
It's nice that Capcom took a few gambles and included some overshadowed and unknowns.
Svensson's such a harda$$, but he really tells it like it is - very to the point lol. It's nice to have both playful Ono and succinct Svensson (makes them sound like playable characters, Evil Ryu, Peaceful Akuma, etc)
@114 How cute you don't even read what I say did't you? and I was't saying something like F**K YOU LEAVE I ask you nicely but sorry I did't know you a fan so sorry I'm JUST TELLING YOU NOT TO BUY A CAPCOM GAME ok? that it and saying stuff like(even if you did't say it)F**K YOU CRAPCOM is't acting your age that it.
@114 oh and one more thing I spell fine thank you smart ass :)
YO! Hold up...wait...are these grown a** men/almost grown men still crying about a FICTIONAL VIDEO GAME CHARACTER not making into ONE VIDEO GAME (2 now)?
Respect meter = Zero (See what I did there?)
Let it go! If one character defines your existence and your desire to purchase a video game, don't buy the game. CapCom has given probably all that they want to give on MM right now. If it hurts so flipping much, then go outside and play football or play with your Megaman action figures or something. But for the love of god, if this characters stops you from indulging in or enjoying a form of interactive media, then there are literally millions of other things in this world just waiting to be done.
There's life outside of Megaman and his appearance in a couple of games. Maybe you guys should go live it cuz complaining is only getting you cameos that you consider trolling.
I am Fear 4 The Hero and I approve this message.
Shut the hell up Sven! How dare you say such harsh words to an inquiring fan! You and all CAPCOM staff and employees know very well that we (im talking about the Fans of Megaman in general) wanted him to be in UMVC3! It's not so much as what you said as how you guys at Capcom go about it by rubbing it in our faces by making references to megaman! So just give a a F-in STRAIGHT ANSWER JEEZ! Will megaman be in the game as DLC? YES Or NO! simple as that!
@130
Just like zero has the mega buster. And if you knew you're games, the lariat belonged to hagger first, not zangief.Just because they share similar moves that doesn't make them the same, if that was the case, megaman fans would be fine with The X costume, but for some odd reason it is considered TROLLING
It's a sad day when you know Sonic is doing better than Megaman.
At 1st we get the Days of Future Past poster, which gave alot of MM fans hope of DLC. Then we get Zero's removal of the X palette color. The hope rises some more. Unfortunately thats where it comes crashing down. With Zero's quote of X not being around (Pretty much caused a flatline), the sudden show of all MM cameos, (Though I gotta admit Mega Nova corp does sound awesome.) and then the finisher with the PERFECT Zero alt of X.(Even though it has a bitter sweet taste of being great and sad) It's easy to understand the frustration when the most highly requested character can't just make a playable appearance and instead just has a set of reminders that say he isn't in.
@135
But Zero doesn't inherit powers like Megaman does, that's the biggest different between them, and is also a HUGE difference. The lariat may have belonged to Haggar first, but Zangief was the first to have it in a fighting game. They really do have practically the exact same movesets with the exception of Haggar's pipe move.
@137 First off sonic generations is beyond awesome so shut up and second Megaman X may not be in the game but if you smart you know that classic megaman maybe in it with the cameos.
@139 BOTH PAST SONIC GAMES AND MEGAMANS ARE GOOD SHUT UP GOD.
Svensson: So to understand you correctly, we can't use Mega Man in any form or make any references (other than as a playable character) without pissing some folks off?I think you need thicker skin. I'd also think as a fan, you should like to see any/all exposure for Mega Man to raise awareness for the brand in any form, even if you personally aren't satisfied by the execution.
You REALLY want to get choked don't you? Lemme remind you Sven, Mega Man had two games cancelled. One of them took 10 years to get green lit but you decided it was more important to release another Marvel game in the same year? Of course we want to play ANYTHING Mega Man related dickhead! This guy has A LOT of nerve to antagonize that guy's concerns with that thick skin comment. We make sure you see a paycheck. You cater to our requests & the devs, not the shareholders if you want returning customers.
@143 I don't know but that don'est mean they BAD games that what i'm trying to say.
@Jerry
They are similar fighters that have copied eachothers moves. And Haggar probably plays similar to Gief in the Marvel series because he seems to have replaced him.
However, if Haggar actually made an appearance in SF he would have more than three attack buttons and could have any fighting style they wanted to give him! Save the lariat and the pile driver.
Example:
Final Fight Throw: Haggar command grabs (like Makoto) and can follow up with Suplex, Pile Driver, headbutt or simply strangle walk them to the corner and drop them for a corner trap.
Calling him a Gief Clone implies that they lack the imagination to properly implement him.
Maybe we don't need Ken or Akuma because we have Ryu? Maybe your Daft enough to tell me that because they all have a Hadoken they are all the same?
Gtfo.
@129-131
I said "period", not misspelling.....
Now im thinking you have an issue with comprehension.
The "joke" is that you don't like my opinion and want me to leave. You told me "bye". :-( This made me sad.
The "punchline" is that this attitude you got borders on "entitlement" which is what this whole issue is about anyway!
You seek control, you demand it, but you'll never get it.
You may not know it, but Sven is talking to folks like you! And me i guess... I had alllll the megaman games so im a fan too.
Do you even know what "fight the power" means? Or are you trying to be cool?
(@140 Sonic generations sucks, actually. Sorry to say.
The reviews seem to say though Old School Sonic is fine, Sega still has to work out the kinks with New School Sonic.
And here I thought they were going to give him a fresh start of console games that don't suck...)
You guys that only play fighters have NO SENSE of attachment to games since all you do is hop on whatever excrement everyone else playing.
Mega Man X is not only enjoyed by millions who came in contact with that game but it is genuinely one of those games that had done really clever things regarding game design choices.
As a MM fan, I just want to say a few things. I can understand MM not making it in due to deadlines and Marvel licenses and all that, because each character is made in pairs. On top of that, people often forget there are more than just animating and programming the character: the character needs to be uniquely designed, balanced, on top of being marketed properly if he/she are one of the key additions to an expansion. Often times character roster is one of the first things that are finalize, it's just plain simple because they need to plan ahead. By then, they must've realized they couldn't squeeze in MM given pressure by Marvel, so for the sake of love, they tried to squeeze in a bunch of cameos for him and an alternate costume for Zero. When you put things in perspective from the developers, it doesn't seem so much like trolling than it is actual fanservice. Sure the execution could've been better, but the intent was not trolling.
Here's the thing that ticks me off the most though: Capcom has TERRIBLE PR. For something THIS sensitive, you would think they'd address everything ASAP to calm their fans. Seth had the right idea by saying DOTFP poster was just a nod before things got wild. But after ending and costume leaks, MM fans are butthurt because we have no information regarding:
-How Zero's costume works (I think most would be fine with a unique voice set)
-If there's any character DLC possibility in the future
Anyways, that's just my 2 cents. I think a lot of people have been reading way too much of fanboy rage that the MM community has only seen much of its darker side as of late. Realistically, the smarter fans tend to think before they post, which would mean you'd see a lot less of their breed...
@149
last time i checked Sonic Generations has gotten positive reviews from nearly everybody so yeah that statement is wrong.
@150
I play fighting games, but I have a select fan base that I love. Just because nobody gives a damn about megaman doesn't mean they don't have games that they love or cherish.
@149 no it'does't I feel for sorry you for not knowing how good and you listen to dumbasses like IGN,Gamespot.etc but whatever now shh and don't talk about sonic.
I only wish the Haggar community was as vocal as the MM community. I literally spent years posting on every site begging for him. And I was always the only one saying anything. And to be Trolled by my fellow gamers saying "Shut up, Pick Gief!" or Ono San.. "Haggar is too busy".
:(RT
MM fans should feel proud. You've yelled loud enough to actually warrant a response from Capcom. A rude one at that, lol.
Thanks to InitialR for the Haggar support!
I'm sorry but capcom is trolling with all these references (ie. franks alt. really? was that REALLY necessary? y not make a chuck model from dr2? y the disgusting looking MEGAMAN X costume?) the references in the endings? meh. the poster? a lil annoying considering y MM was specifically choosen for that spot but whatever. Now the Frank West and Zero Alts are the biggest pieces of trolling I've ever seen in my life!
The Zero alt in particular cuz CC actually made a perfectly beautiful MMX model that just as easily could've been used to make X his own char but instead CC opts to insert zeros data and treat it as an alt even tho zero already has new colors mimicking well known X armors! Plus don't even have the decency to give confirmation of X not being in.
CC isn't really giving attention to the brand cuz that's our job thru our feedback as to what we want since there would be no CC w/o us.how do u think sf4 came about?or mvc3?or even this game?thru the attention we gave to each respective brand with our feedback.until X as a char is a confirmed no show most current and all future references to the char short of his inclusion in the cast is nothing short of unnecessary trolling on CC's part and needs to stop.want to bring attention to the brand? announce a new potential MM game and see how its received. THAT'S drawing attention to the brand!
@Aluppoj
What really ticks me though is that I feel Haggar is better suited for the SF games and they refuse to put him there...funnily enough I think they both should have been in Marvel or just swap them for sfXtk...I really wanted to see Mecha Zangief in MvC3
@148 I'm comprehension really... REALLY again do you read ANYTHING I SAY I mean Anything I SAY sorry don't know you just a fan I tell you if you hate capcom don't buy they games that all man THAT ALL and I apologize for the smart ass comment but who cares about a period i'm human dude not a robot and no I don't seek control and I did't even say I hate your opinion and no I'm not trying to be cool so make sure you read everything this time.
you know what really ticks me off is that all these MM haters keep saying "cry babies, cant take a troll". well what if strider was in MM places instead huh? what if they trolled strider with ending pictures and background pic of him missiing. would you say "what ever"then? >__>
Actually, considering the fact Vergil didn't get Nelo Angelo for DT, I highly doubt Capcom put any effort into swapping Zero's voice. Can't believe my hopes were dashed that easily. >_>
Anyways, I just wanted to clarify that in my original post I'm merely defending the cameos and poorly executed costumes (forgot to mention Frank's), not so much Capcom's decision to exclude MM in any incarnation as a unique playable character. I personally don't like Niitsuma very much as a producer, but I'm sure the other developers only had the best in mind...
(#153 finish your sentences, the mega man rage is overtaking you)
(Also, because you haven't named the publication I go by, I stand by my statement that Sonic Generations is bad. It isn't even making the passing grade of "C"(Close, but close doesn't make it a good game). There's really no reason to check out Sonic on consoles, his hand held entries are superior. And if you want a 5 star platformer, might as well get Mario for an overall better experience.)
@150
That's pretty harsh, but just because we mainly play fighters doesn't mean we don't have attachments to other games. I wanted X ever since the day MvC3 got announced, though I will admit it was mostly because I was hoping for this...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ljiZ1mw_aU...to be his theme music. With that being said, I am not upset at all about him not being in thus far because I keep holding out hope that he will get added as DLC (which he will be, according to very shaky rumors lol).
@156
No doubt. I'd be fine with both Haggar/Gief in ANY FREAKING GAME!
It's a Dream Match waiting to happen! It's probaby the longest running rivalry next to Ryu/Sagat or Ryu/Ken!
And guess what... Haggar has another CAMEO in SFxT! He's running around chasing Sodom on the Rockin Final Fight stage!
That marks about his 75th SF cameo! He was also in Capcom Fighting Evolution with my other favorite... Alex!! Another character I'm praying will return some day:(
if nintendo put mario in mega mans positions id be pissed off too but their not dumb
@139
It's sad considering Sonic was having terrible luck with his games yet they were still able to make 1 every yr regardless of the predecessor. Unlike Megaman who just can't really catch a break considering all the cancelations. I love Sonic it's just weird to see that he is doing SO much better than the Blue Bomber.
@140
....-Sigh- Did I insult Sonic Generations? No, I just pointed out its sad seeing him do alot better than Megaman considering alot of past bad Sonic games, so stfu. And how can ANYONE tell if the cameos mean anything besides the bitter sweet message? Thats not smart, its just making a guess, a guess that really seems to lose its credibility with Sven's comment.
@116
Blunt does not = rude. His comment was rude not blunt form my perspective. I think that @113 was referring to his tone, and I agree with @113. Comments like that kill my hype for a game personally. He-who-must-not-be-played (Megaman) has nothing to do with it.
@104
I'm not sure what to make of your comment, but yes your right about the stop complaining portion. My comment was about the way in which he blew the fan up. It doesn't look good for the company, things like this (the MM war) happen. How is that hard to understand? please clarify.
@171
When I hear the word "downsize," I think of dismissing as unimportant, which Sven clearly doesn't do by giving a very thorough response to the question. If my interpretation of that word is incorrect, then let me know what you meant by that word.
Either way, judging by the comments, I think how you view Sven's response depends on whether or not you agree with what he's saying or not. It seems to me that the people who feel the response was rude are people who agree with the consumer and vice versa.
In any case, I honestly don't think he said anything inappropriate at all. It may not be what some people want to hear, but it's hardly unprofessional (at least I don't see it as such).
@162
I've personally played and beaten Sonic Generations, and it gets an 9/10 for me. The only thing holding it back is the difficulty to beat the main story. No difficulty to get the Chaos Emeralds because you get them after beating a Boss, and the Final Boss only has 1 form. I beat it in about 5 hours. Level design is genius, music is godlike and the bosses were enjoyable. It's totally worth the multiple nostalgia attacks, great innovation for both Classic and Modern versions of each stage and an overall great experience. Btw, I thought Sonic Colors was actually good (last great Sonic game was SA2 in my books), so I don't see why you think Sonic isn't getting some traction back on consoles.
Also, Sven's counterpoint is every bit as valid the person's question.
Some people don't like the references. Some people do. Capcom shouldn't have to refrain from using THEIR IP's likeness in THEIR game because some people view the cameos as taunting.
I get that people love MegaMan. I love MegaMan. But being a fan of something doesn't not grant you ownership of the company's intellectual property. Fan input and fan service is great, but at the of the day, it's Capcom's IP.
If I had creative control over something, I would think my creative decision was every bit as valid (and honestly MORESO) as fan demand.
I hope they do put megaman in this damn game, and make him suck ass. Then once he's released, everyone is gonna complain that he's too low tier then go back to their wesker, _____, _____. Whoever those next two broken characters are.
Um...Sven is NOT right here.
The problem is that Capcom KNOWS that we want Mega Man as a playable character.
Look at vanilla MvC3. Yeah, they put Zero and Tron in the game, but there are no direct references to Mega Man at all. Nothing. They just completely passed over him. It's only NOW, after the fans have spoken up about their omission of Mega, that Capcom suddenly feels the need to stick him in every part of the game EXCEPT as a playable character.
Sven is being a douche, as usual, and serving as a good little PR monkey for his Capcom overlords. The only one that needs thicker skin here is Capcom. They seem to have taken such offense to the fan's requests for Mega Man that they've taken to making as many references they can about him without actually including him in the game. This is a deliberate taunting of the fanbase, so I'd say Capcom is the one that needs to suck it up and accept that they made a mistake by not including Mega
Had Capcom put in MM in vanilla with Zero's moveset, nobody would be calling shenanigans now, even if they would have given him a Zero alt. Now the situation is reverse, however, and people are crying foul.
The way I see it, you can now kick ass with a character that looks like MM, that's what you guys wanted, right?
Besides, I feel Svensson is right, Megaman fans should get a thicker skin. Not every move Capcom makes is directed at them, and definitely not to just p!$$ 'em off, get over yourselves, A: you're not Capcom's only fans and B: Currently, you're just not that important.
Your time will come when it's MM's 25th anniversary and in the meantime, Capcom can do whatever they want, since... wait for it, it's their intellectual property, and you don't HAVE to like it!
Sorry if I raged a bit but I'm tired of reading comments like "You are the worst fans ever" when the reality is, we care enough to voice our opinion & support for something that we love.
People just don't ever want to flip perspectives. What if YOU guys had MVC3 announced after a 10 year wait & had it cancelled after seeing gameplay? For me, its more about this blatant trolling & lying on Capcom's end regarding Mega Man. His cancellation of Legends 3 followed with the announcement of UMVC3 without him even in it was just the straw that broke the camel's back.
Fact is MVC is a fan service series & they pissed people off by not catering to our needs, disc locking every damn thing & charging us for it, not offering anything unique for vanilla owners, etc.
#184 *facepalm* dude, look @ his comment, and then look @ who he was talking to. #153 was actually TAKING UP 4 Sonic Generations. #149 was the 1 who said it sucked, so he's the 1 who needs to " shove a Megabuster up his keister and have a blast"
From the very beginning, Capcom never states clearly whether Mega Man will be included or not. I am not a Mega Man fan, but I do think I have seen too many Mega Man references lately. I suggest all MM fans to save their money until Mega Man is included.
SFIV + thicker skin = SSFIV
SSFIV + thicker skin = SSFIV AE
MvC3 + thicker skin = UMvC3
UMvC3 + thicker skin = another iteration with your Mega Man
Seeing such harsh response to MM fans, I dare all MM fans to boycott the 25th Anniversary of Mega Man franchise next year.
I love Mega Man, yet I don't consider his absence in this game a big deal at all like the cancellations of the past couple games. However, I will acknowledge that he did win Capcom Unity's character request poll by such a large margin that I can see why everyone's frustrated. Still, it bothers me that I hear so much more whining about his absence in this particular game than the lack of information on his future. Okay, so he had a tough year, but he's gone through longer stretches of hard times and bounced back. And while it's understandable that people are gonna have their doubts now that Inafune abandoned ship, the big 25th anniversary is just right around the corner and I remain faithful that something big is on the way. They've already told us to expect something. I'm saving my whining until after they announce their plans.
Good job Sven with rejecting that s--t! Screw MM! Never really liked him anyway and I'm glad he's not in this game.
If anyone were to put a bullet between Svensons eye sockets im quite sure no one would give a damn.
@28 so they didnt get it right because one of the 12 characters that were added wasnt megaman. I dont see how svenson said anything out of line. half of you fans are a bunch of over sensitive fags that needed to here a brusque answer like that. its ok for all you snivelers to continuously sully capcom but when they give an honest and much needed reply they dont know how to treat the fans. get over yourselves and stop chiding the very company thats producing all the games that we all love and will continue to buy and play.
when was it officially confirmed that these would be dlc costumes? and if the game still has 4 months to be released wouldnt this be the right time to scrap things and add things?they try to keep the fans updated and it seems like more then half of the fans always have something negative to say.i dont see how capcom is fading with all these recent and forthcoming releases, you sound stupid. but despite all this griping im sure this game will do fine as the rest did as far as sales.
@192
Only an idiot would continue to purchase a product that doesn't meet that individuals standards.
Here comes the "DLC shouldn't be on the disc" song.
Follow the dot and sing along!