Submitted by waddledoo.
I don't know about training against the CPU. All it does is random ultra as soon as it gets meter.
Meh my last tournament I didn't do anything previous before it, I just showed up.
(OMG CAMMYSTRIKE VISITS THIS BOARD! MORE FAMOUS THAN THE BEAST)
Hardest CPUs aren't completely worthless. They're complete idiots with no plans or tactics and are just designed to do specific things with ungodly reactions, you're not going to "learn" anything from them, but they're good for helping your hands remember what to do in specific situations. Sometimes I just hop right online and do things I know are wrong the second I do them, like punishes I'm too far away for or jump-in combos that I'm not deep enough to complete because I do one too many links. I don't see their usefulness beyond an early morning primer before you fight real people, though.
Most of you took what they said completely out of context. You choose one quote and leave out all the details they gave for the statement. (Or you most likely just read the summary up top and didn't watch the video, instead opting to drink your haterade and talk smack on them as usual.)
have you guys tried playing the CPU on hardest difficulty? they are super hard to consistently land combos because all the mind tricks and shenanigans don't work on them. It's a very legitimate way to train when you don't have a sparring buddy.
playing the CPU in training mode is basically just good for practicing combos on a moving target and helping you muscle memory your punishes against specific characters. you might, for example, know that abel's wheel kick is not safe from certain distances, but unless you can punish it when you don't even expect it, you won't be as prepared for it when you're in an actual match. Just setting Abel to record and playback a wheel kick isn't the same thing.
we all know playing out actual matches against the AI is not particularly helpful in the long run, but maybe some of yall could have taken two seconds to think about what they meant first (or, you know, actually watched the video).
i agree with the guys above me.. playing the CPU isn't worthless.. yea a lot of times they're random, and mind games don't work on them, but it's a REALLY good way to get consistent with your combos under pressure, since the CPU WILL punish your missed links 99% of the time..
i, for one, use the CPU to practice punishing whiffs or certain moves on block, as well as combos.. but to each his own i guess
and to the guys saying playing online is also a dumb idea..
i think those tips are geared toward people who dont have any humans to play against/ don't have an arcade to go to.. in which case, playing online is pretty much your only way to learn matchups
Combo training in the lab with the CPU on hardest with regular meter is a great way to learn combo execution and figure out what moves you can punish.
Ppl who say it's trash don't know WTF your talking about. I practice new combos in the lab, then add them to my online play. Probably why I have...
3,000 pp
62,000 overall bp
Two Platinium SF trophies
Beat that resume lol.
as someone that has played computer a long time, just turn off super and ultra and play, computer can really enter godlike mode when they react like hell and they always most of the time land their pokes lol. They do stupid things yeah but they dont mash shoryuken on wakeup lol
Literally the only things I don't do are
-record my own matches
-take notes
I keep mental notes, but maybe I should keep real notes lying around somewhere.
As for recording matches, I don't really have a good capture card, although I plan to get one.
Other than that, I do everything else on that list every time I play, just out of habit.
Its good to play against the CPU on hardest to train your offense. If you're trying to learn how to block or predict human tactics, you won't learn a thing. But playing against a computer will teach you to how to stay safe on the offense and keep the pressure.
I didn't realize until recent years that I was using the CPU the wrong way. I used it all the time to practice reactions and offensive pressure in Tekken 5 and the KOF series (highest difficulty of course).
Sound advice. Good vid. Although I'm prol'ly still not going to take notes, lol.
@22 Your first point has two terms that mean the same thing
The rest you probably don't do yourself if you have to validate yourself over a fighting game website LOL
since when is playing online dumb? it's dumb when you play the whack mashers but who doesnt play online? there's no arcades or much tournaments here so playing online is the only option, and ive played many skilled players and the connection is fine so dont tell me the lag is an excuse
It's not about what you use, but about how you use it.
Tournament players make intensive use of training mode and the cpu can be used....
A cpu is not human, but a computer excels at things better than humans ever will in some respects. Processing time and consistent punishes on whiff are something they're good at. The goal is not to fight a cpu and believe a human will fight like that. The goal is to find out which button beats another character's button, which can be used against any human.
good, stuff, I'm attending Evo this year so it helped out big time! first btw.