Update: Marvel vs. Capcom 3 Event Mode patch, Sentinel's health nerfed

@Apathetik

No. Nothing of that sort yet. I'm assuming when Capcom patches the online play, it's going to be something larger than a 1 megabyte update.

The only thing I know about the online play is Capcom is aware of the issue and looking into it.

maybe its things like custom sound track and other crap that should have been in the game

Hmmm, Event Mode sure does sound familiar...

Oh well! I can't wait to try it out!

Meh, unless it's spectator mode, I don't really care for any updates that Capcom might put into the game.

I feel like these "events/challenges" are merely just to keep people preoccupied in the hopes that they forget what's important (i.e. spectator mode).

I don't know. I love this game, but sometime, I feel like just watching others play instead of actually playing myself. I would like to see how others play this game and just enjoy watching it instead of getting salty over having to wait at the back of a 3-8 player lobby after a loss.

I'm excited. I can't wait to filling in the rest of those titles. Now we just need more Shadow Battles we'll be set for DLC until Frank and Doc Ock are revealed.

it is 23mb not 1.

I'm surprised that the patch is Live already.

(Woah 1 Megabyte, it must be *snicker* on the disc already!

*snicker*)

@1 i dont think they will improve or change on any playability and or fixing characters its just the way the game is so we all have to deal for now. looking foward to new content but whatever happened to just unlocking something. now we have to buy or download everything later if these modes were there from the get go it would have been the total mvc3 experince. but they have to dish it out in segments y go thru the effort. maybe the content could have been a deciding factor for some people to actually be interested.

in my case i wish they would just put about ten new characters. one should be anti sentinel even though i think jill does a good job of that. and spectator and recording matches thats whats missing to me.

I wonder if the challenges have special parameters.

Maybe challenge 50 is a match against 3 lvl3 X-factored Sentinels, or another "dramatic mode" battle like the cosmic heralds from the story mode but with Wesker and Jill at the same time.

@13 actually that would be the best way to do it sorta like soul calibur and there tower

#12 a lot of the cast beats Sentinel... You don't need a dlc specific to anti Sentinel just better blocking and punishment.

They nerfed Sentinel's health. It's under 1 million now. I did a combo on him with Doom that was 950,300 and it depleted his health completely. Let me get some conformation on this guys. Hit the training room up.

Confirmation* Sorry for the misspelling.

@12

Nearly half the cast is anti-Sentinel. You should look into that instead of whining for more characters that can beat him...when there's already plenty already in the game that can do that.

Going from 1.3 million to less then a million is a pretty serious nerf, IF it's true.

Gun_Fu_Projekt is right, 962k combo ko'd sentinel.

I just ran some quick tests on Sentinel as well...It looks like he's at 900k now. A 937k combo kills him.

Awwww Shi- time for some sent raping action

Hey I thought it was trolling too, its no lie, he has 900ish. anyone else get nerfed? maybe jean isnt as powerful now?

I wonder if the Sent health change is the only change they've made? Also while yes with Sent's damage output his health was pretty high it seems in many ways they are going to be very proactive with balance changes. The complainers got their wish, #12 your DLC came true the character is nerf hammer.

Okay, so I tried going even lower, and an 876k combo also kills Sentinel. So...he went from 1.3mil to 850k, that's a pretty major drop that I don't think even he deserved. o_O

i would rather capcom just fix the glaring problems with the game in an effort to make it playable rather than release a bunch of half assed modes and crap that nobody will play for more than 10 minutes.

I'm starting to think maybe it is more like an error on their part then a seemingly nerf....

Yo snake, try and see if anymore characters Health got nerfed/buffed

I really hope this is a bug or something. Sentinel does NOT deserve a nerf like that.

Inb4 nobody plays sent online anymore

@29
although i agree that thats an enormous nerf. something was needed for such a dominating character. but this is overboard. it should have been damage reduction not such an enormous health nerf. but i understand high damage/low health characters as well. i feel it should have been the other way around

The only thing they needed to nerf on Sent is his X-factor damage boost, imo. This is too much.

Now that sent is nerfed this people are saying "THIS IS TOO MUCH" make up your damned minds people. You asked for a nerf, they nerfed him. Now you're going to start whining and complaining about that they need to buff him??? God damn make up your minds.

@34 i wanna go down in the books as to having never played sentinel once. my team is and has always been HULK/Skrull/Dormammu

inb4 sentinel scrub using complainers

@28

I messed around a bit with a couple other characters' stamina and so far only Sentinel is the only noticeably different one. I think Wesker may have lost about 50k, but my eyes may have been playing tricks on me...it's hard to do an exact amount of damage, heh.
Also, I did one more damage test on Sentinel before moving on, and he dies from 876k as I mentioned above, but doesn't die from an 862k combo...so he's somewhere between there.

@32

Those glitches are not a big deal. Why you ask? Because they are impractical, not something you can readily abuse, and NEVER happen in actual match.
It's smart on Capcom's part to prioritize things like buffs and nerfs over glitch fixes because buffs and nerfs have a more direct and immediate impact on the game.

InitialR, you DO realize different people were asking for different things right? Personally, I didn't see the need for a nerf at all (except for maybe a x-factor damage nerf, but only if you absolutely have to nerf something).

Bringing his health down to 950k (just tested it, 19 overheads from Joe kills him) was not necessary.

@J So having the Highest attack/Health and best super Armor (besides Lei lei) in the game doesn't seem just a bit broken to you? What they did with Sent is that you now have to actually THINK and PLAN when using him. He might be able to take characters out in one combo, but now, you have to be more precise with him, instead of going buck wild, because if you mess up, you might lose him. Before, you could mess up 3/4 times before you lose him, depending on the character.

And also, I was fine with the game as is, it didn't bother me how high sent's health was, nor was I really complaining, I kinda like doing epicly long combos on the guy, but thats not the case now, and I really don't care either, as i'm not a sent user. Sorry Sent users, it is time for you guys to actually learn how to play.

To be fair InitialR, you have to look at it from a match-up perspective too, since a good chunk of the cast could easily handle Sentinel before. Even though I generally dislike Sentinel and have never played as him myself, I still think a 450-500k nerf is a bit overboard.

Wesker, Tron and Phoenix seem the same. I could be wrong about Sentinel though, but he has between 900,001 and 950,000 health now. SnakeX, are you positive you killed Sent at less than 900k health?

@40 InitialR
your qoute is CLASSIC and true

"Sorry Sent users, it is time for you guys to actually learn how to play."

qoute of the DAY

Yeah, I've been doing it by combos in training mode with everything set to default, and his health bar is completely gone at under 900k.

@Snake People fail to realize the other quirks Sent has other then the Massive attack and (used to be)massive health. Sent has a Double Jump, Super Armor that doesn't take health unlike hulks, AND flight. The one that people also fail to realize, which is really big if you ask me, is that Some of his neutral attacks NULLFIES Projectile Attacks, Like Some of Dormamus attacks. Sent is STILL a force to be reckoned with, BUT now people have to find a way to be effective with him, other then throwing around his super armor.

So has they fixed the American Infinite?

(Sentinel got nerfed? It really is the apocalypse...)

Infinite is still there.

Never played Sentinel myself, since it was my goal to never board that train. But even so I have to admit that's a pretty epic nerf. Maybe reducing his health to 1.2 million or 1.1 million would have been reasonable. But then again he does have a lot more options then the other heavy hitting high health characters like Tron and Hulk. I already foresee a lot of people dropping him now that they won't be able to just throw out unsafe things, and clutch out a win for no reason. Also the tournament scene should be a lot more interesting now that people may actually start playing other characters.

sentinel gets beat by most of the cast hell even chris redfield gives him lots of trouble.but the nerf was huge lets see if capcom will actually patch online

#49 I don't think everyone will drop Sentinel though, because his assist is still pretty useful.

@50 If people knew that Nearly ALL of sent's attack cancels projectiles, and instead of throwing around his health, attack, and super armor and actually decided to PLAN ahead, Chris wouldn't be so much of a problem. Also, my online has been fine. Whats wrong with you guise online?

His assist just got alot worse.

Many beam super DHCs will now just kill him outright. Low health a spammable assist does not make.

how can you nerf the health of the biggest target in the game? you can hit him from every angle possible, instant overheads, unblockables.. and now you can kill him basically in 1 combo, lol

Capcom should've let the game sink in, then patch whatever was really OP. instead they listened to a bunch of overreacting scrubs, gg :D

@InitialR
It only nullifies fireball type projectiles, not beams or multi hit ones, and it's not exactly a walk in the park when trying to nullify bullet projectiles either. That's why no one ever talks about it really. It's really only good against brain-dead fireball spammers, and Sentinel already had more than enough ways of getting around them to begin with, as I'm sure you're aware.

But he really wasn't that big of a hurdle as you make him out to be. Yes, he's got a ton of benefits, is a very powerful character, and is extremely easy to pick up, but you can't only look at it from just one side of the fence.
I'll mention it again, you have to consider his match-ups.
The most obvious example is Amaterasu, as she completely ruins Sentinel despite all of his benefits. And she's certainly not the only one. Wesker has a pretty easy time with Sentinel as well, as does Spencer. Same goes with Wolverine. And that's just the tip of the iceberg, really.

That's a huge nerf. He wasn't that amazing anyway. So now Hulk will prevail, who annoys me more...

I wouldn't even be surprised if they put it back up.

I dont think he really deserved that much of a vitality nerf. Maybe nerf super armor so it doesn't have so much priority, especially on jumping S. Let it trade at least. Slight damage nerf would have been good too. It's actually kind of odd they included this one character tweak in the patch.

@51 His assist is good, but really easy to punish. With his health being so low now, two hail storms would be enough to kill him. So calling him out is a risk some people may think is too high to take. I've seen some people catch Sentinel as an assist and combo the hell out of him. Yet the damn thing still managed to walk away with it's life when any other character would have died.

Sentinel hp nerf seems a bit much. I would have just done something about the damage but whatever. Now maybe I can pick him without having to hear people crying about how OP he is.

Ahh who am I kidding people will still cry.

@Snake No, it nullfies beams as well bro. Use his Stand S and you'll see that the beam will go right through you, and his Standing S is long enough to go through CERTAIN bullet attacks.

And i'm not making him into any hurdle. I know certain characters have a easier time with dealing with him then others, MY POINT was that with sents Massive Health/Attack/ And super armor made him probably the easiest character to pick up, and without the least amount of skill to use, can with one combo can do about 75%-100% without X factor and with probably at most 2 Guages to most of the characters in the game.

AND that without an Xfactor NONE of those characters can take him out in one hit, and barely any of them can do more then half damage to him in one combo, where if Sent gets Ammy in a combo, she is most likely DEAD.

I approve of this update. Whoo!

Pretty surprising nerf, although it won't deter me from using Sentinel in my team. For the most part, this will only affect the people who recklessly throw around their Sent and take for granted the fact he can survive a few combos before using their own random supers.

As far as spectator mode and fixing infinite's, be patient. This was an update that was free of charge, just like the shadow battle update. This shows that Capcom is still putting forth the developmental effort to help this game continue to grow, and people need to be happy with that.

@#60

Now the ammy vs. sent match is 9-1 instead 7-3 since ammy can just OHKO him and zoned him out. Horray for balancing.

Wesker's health SEEMS to be a bit lower, by about 50-100k. Doing more tests to see if I can confirm it.

@62 Why can't we find more sent users like you?
@60 Yeah Ammy can 0HKO him NOW, Ammy users are now Yiffing in joy.

Are you really going to dispute that Ammy doesn't ruin him? She quite literally has all the counters she needs to put him down. She doesn't need to kill him in one combo. None of the characters that are good against him do. The fact that they have the tools necessary to counter his best efforts is enough.

I think they hit sentinel too hard, time will tell

#64

Yeah, I was thinking its about 50k less. Not a huge deal for him but it's something.

I think this makes sense, I scratched my head when I saw that Sentinel had more life than Thor, the damn god of thunder.

I really don't see how ammy ruins him except for being smaller then him, meanig his attacks will miss her? But you see, Let Ammy get hit by a random Standing S, which is most likely going to happen as Past Sents throw out this attack like no tomorrow, Then it is lights out for her. It takes MORE effort to take out Sent from Ammy, while taking out Ammy with sent is easy as hell, no matter if she has the counters, Old sents Abused his Health and Standing S, Now with his lower health, They CAN'T.

I'm just happy that the MvC3 Capcom dev team is actively striving to make the game even better than it already is. Seth has been watching most if not all of the road to Evo tournaments.

I cannot wait to try event mode and get me some more titles. =)

I agree, I think the Sent nerf was alittle too much; maybe 1,100K, but not way down to 950K-900K.

And Wesker health was a tad too high to begin with, IMO. So him being at 1,000K is fine.

And they should raise Arthur's health a bit, IMO.

Thank you for paying attention capcom.

Even though I don't believe Sentinel was broken, I'm not against this nerf at all. More than 30% of the tournament scene was using Sentinel as a crutch and nerfing the most common anchor character will lead to more lab-work on the other characters.

In other words, this game's potential is going to unravel faster now. If Sentinel was no longer viable, that would be a different story, but he clearly is.

But again: I don't believe Sentinel was ever broken. The only nerf he needed was his assist. The people were right about that.

Wesker Already has 1mil Health, And bring Sents health down from 1.2mil to 1.1mil isn't really that much of a big difference guys...

#70

Cold star is your friend. Sj okami shuffle, frame advantage to punish sents b moves start up frames, easy ass instant overhead. If sent throws sent s like a dumb ass. It gets punish hard by ammy. Can get airthrown like a giant ragdoll.

and 5S is stupid punishible. Hell you can just okami shuffle right after its block and it will hit.

#@70

Cold star is your friend. Sj okami shuffle, frame advantage to punish sents b moves start up frames, easy ass instant overhead. If sent throws sent s like a dumb ass. It gets punish hard by ammy. Can get airthrown like a giant ragdoll.

and 5S is stupid punishible. Hell you can just okami shuffle right after its block and it will hit.

There goes my "All health characters" team. Wanted to keep a team of all 1m up health. :c they did a little to much, and I agree with #72, around 1,100k.

I really don't see them fixing the American infinite, at least I hope they don't. Despite being one of the easiest infinites to pull off in fighting game history, I don't see all that many people with Cap even on their team, let alone landing the infinite for any significant amount of time. There surely wasn't an outcrying of "You can't win without Cap on your team." I think the Sent nerf is fair. Perhaps a little drastic, but cutting his health down is completely reasonable. Characters like Hulk, Haggar, and Tron having large health pools make sense, as they need to use that health to get in, and some of them can't even do comparable damage to Sentinel once they do get in. Sentinel having as much health as he did seems more like some great oversight than anything else.

awww. guess im gonna have to improve my game :P i've lost track of the ammouont of games i've won because my Ryu and Dante, or my wesker and Wolverine has been killed but then sentinal has come in level 3 x factor and saved the day, but then i neither play the game competitively or know what im doing to a large degree (i dont even use assists!!!) so for people like me sentianl is a way of making sure that when i do lose i just dont lose that badly haha.

but i do love this game and its a nice break from SF which is a lot more methodical and defensive. its also more fun to play with my friends when they come over as none of them can play street fighter and get bored in ten minutes, they find this much more fun.

i guess on topic it doesn't really bother me and i rarely play online as i dont really know what i'm doing, waiting for a comprehensive tutorial from someone like vesper before i think about playing the game competitively. guess on the rare occasions i play online now i will just have to be a bit more careful and choice my launcher mashing moments more carefully :P

@70 well, I didn't know that, I don't play Ammy, so I didn't know how she counters him. But the Okami Shuffle can Get punshined by Sent with his HARD DRIVE as the move is just basically One Big Invicibilty frame. and you still have to get past some of his Super Armor. But hey, your job with sent is easier now, I guess, IMO I see more Akumas then sents, and Akuma Spams His spinning kick like no tomorrow...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8dij-...

If further proof is needed.

You can hard drive but okami shuffle is punishble by everybody anyway.

#74 definitely a crutch. Most people didn't know much on how to use Sentinel besides his specials and that one basic combo.

Wesker's health wasn't nerfed. Still takes eleven Hadokens (100,000 each) to kill him.

This is what Capcom does.
First Publishes a crap full of underpowered and overpowered characters.
then for balance issues nerfs someone and buffs the other one in the hopes that people would wanna buy their crap.
they've been doing this from vanilla sf to the bs mvc3.
well, fcuk you capcom.

Oh my poor robot

@83 That damage is sexy

@85 Atleast we don't have to buy a totally new game to get a few patches, unlikes a certain fighting game.

Just did some testing, pretty sure Sentinel has 910,000 health now, unless they gave him some weird number like 905,000.

The guys at Capcom play this game constantly to find balance issues and glitches, infinite combos, etc., as well as looking at the community and what other people are finding, and saying about the game.

If Capcom nerfed Sentinal to 950, 000 health, it seems dramatic, but they worked hard to put 37 other chars in the game, too. A nerf that size has more to it than just "people were complaining".

LOL don't care about the changes. Still gonna waste face with sentinel.

This update made the strategy guide stamina rankings wrong now lol

lol I can only assume now that those who pick sent will be the people that enjoy using him; as opposed to those looking for a shortcut to an easy win.

Wow from what I've saw from people's experiements with Sentinel's new health, it looks like he has Akuma health or less unlike what the article states. I think it's better to nerf his damage rather than his health. People are still going to play the same way as before. Level 3 x factor Sentinel to perform a scrub comeback. I have yet to see anyone play Sentinel to its potential. Not necessarily "fancy" combos but extended combos to do more damage. EVERYONE does the same simple and VERY DAMAGING combo (launcher, three or four hits in the air, OTG rocket punch, hyper sentinel force) when x factored. I've seen extended combos from Sentinel but no one does them because that repetitive simple damaging combo is all it needs to win.

I don't understand why they nerfed Sent when most use him becuase he had that high health for people like zero,dante,X-23, etc. Now teams with him will die out like my Zero,Dante,Sentinal team.

Thats wasn't smart on Capcom to do that.

@93 And thats the reason why instead of nerfing his damage, they nerfed his health. He is the Akuma of Marvel now. And the thing is, they can play him like they used too, but when he is punished, He is punished HARD, not like before when it barely did anything to sent without x Factor to punish him. Also, with his Assist, People can't spam it as much

Also, Lol @94 because his team now has no health, but if you actually learn how to play, you can still beat people with low health.

Wow, that's a pretty big nerf. This basically made all the matchups that raped Sentinel like 8-2 or 9-1. Can't say it was really needed. I raped Sentinel with X-23 no problem. Well I guess Sentinel won't be killing as many scrubs online anymore. And for the people who know how to fight him he's gonna be no contest.

i don't even play sentinel and i think the health nerf was a bit too much....if his health is around spidey's health, that's kind of absurd. i understand how high is damage output is, but sent aint that scary anymore. i'm more scared of dark phoenix. i think they shoulda dropped his health to about a mil or 990k tops

I don't understand how thats "A bit too much" when Akuma has lower health and just as high damage output, without the flight,super armor douple jump etc...

I don't even play online so no update for me lol

Well, at least I still have Phoenix. :3

delicious Sent spamming tears

As much as I hate Sent online because of lag, I don't think he deserved such a drop in health, should have had damage reduction instead.

He would have been a high defense, high priority, but normal-ish damage character. This would have balanced him out a bit.

Either way, I know this makes the scrubs sh!t their pants in excitement.